Is this the where the show jumped the shark?
i think it got boring maybe after the sil80 episodei couldn't bother to keep watching it around the time they started loading up work vans to follow takumi around.
>>28653779I seriously lost interest after 1st stage. The show was corny but golden for that very first season.
>>28653779I don't know, but Takumi winning every race gets boring after a while. Is this some Japanese thing, that the MC has to dominate all the time?
>>28653779I enjoyed up until stage 4. Takumi chasing down miki to save mogi from getting raped is on the peak moments in the show.
>>28653828the japanese are a race of submissive low-t bugmen. naturally, their repressed emotions have to find a way out, and pop culture is one outlet. that is why the japanese are obsessed with invincible ultra tough guy characters-thats how they cope with their miserable lives, in which any sort of individual or masculine beahviour is strongly discouraged and penalized
>>28653933shut up pajeet don't go shitting up the english net because you got kicked out for feeling up toddlers, go back to india or north sentinel or whenever your ugly ass is from and leave our civilization alone
>>28653937you will never be japanese, faggot
>>28653933shut up faggot you sound like that peanut head andrew tate.
>>28653828He does get buckbroken by an evo3 in season 2 though
>>28653779Once two rich kids come in with fucking support vans to larp as racing team i kinda tuned out. Of course they'd slap local shitters around, whats the fucking point?
>>28654053Yes, and I wanted more of that. The episodes where Takumi is facing issues are definitely the better ones. But those are too few, and they're not that drastic as the lan evo race.
>>28654053I thought it was an evo IV? >>28653828This isn't unique to japs in any way. The hero always winning is a normal trope everywhere. He lost to the evo, I think bunta in the gc8, and God hand was only a win by technicality
>>28653779Probably when they start talking about techniques which only work on the track, no matter how 'advanced' they're supposed to be.Giving someone a touring car style light tap in a street race is a great way to have your insurance skyrocket
>>28654113>great way to have your insurance skyrocketyes anon, I'm sure the racers are reporting every little ding to their insurance. Even if they for some reason did, why are you applying real world logic to initial D?Takumi would go through a set of tires a week and probably spend more on tires than he made delivering tofu, street race teams don't have a pit crew and parts van following them, you don't have galleries for street races, and cops exist. It wasn't meant to be a documentary about street racing.
>>28654159>cops existpost boom japan was kinda wild like this though.
>>28654183https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fodDW8P3obUThis is korea but you do still have canyon racing to some extent
>>28654159If you've had friends at some tire shop you could get a metric ton of used tires for nickels, that was the strat during the times and probably still is. Support technicals are a stretch, but there would be a dude in a tow truck ready to fish out less fortunate drivers. People would gather to spectate around sexiest corners too. https://youtu.be/2aTvNxejNbU
>>28654192To some extent we have it almost everywhere. People like running canyons after all. Japanese automotive boom of the 90-ies was once in a history type deal, we won't have it like this again. Maybe once battery tech advances to sufficient levels we'll have something similar, most likely somewhere around Chongqing, but i wouldn't bet on it and it clearly won't be the same.
For me it was when the Takumi clone appeared. Still completed the series.
>>28654192This road is so wide it feels like watching a mainstream racing game.
>>28653826>>28653828Yeah, these two posts pretty much sum it up.I would argue the second stage is also interesting and the third stage had a very sizeable budget considering it's a nearly two hour movie (the high quality proves that).But Takumi winning EVERY SINGLE god damn race gets boring fast.(And no, blowing the engine does not count as a loss.)The big difference between Stages 1+2+3 and 4+5 is the fact, that the first three stages are not 100% focused on the races.Takumi and friends are still young and high schoolers. We're being shown what they do at their part time job, discussing mostly girls and cars and what's happening at home or school.This creates a flow that eventually builds up tension up until the big race (e.g. versus Shingo).Meanwhile, Stage 4+5 just throw races at you non-fucking-stop and Takumi wins them ALL.This is incredibly boring.
I've seen up to 4th stage.1st stage (subbed) is all anyone should watch and even has a good series ending.
>>28654159>yes anon, I'm sure the racers are reporting every little ding to their insurance.Your right anon, the racers would just sock each other.
>>28654380The Kyoko x Keisuke romance subplot was more interesting than the races in S4.
>>28654061This is why Keisukes races are more entertaining to me in the lat two seasons. The only way to keep Takumi races interesting is to keep it about HOW he wins rather than if. But that only leads to retarded ass pulls when against people who would have otherwise beaten him.When keisuke races there is a little bit more of a question to the outcome since he is the weakest link, plot armor wise. And each one is a moment of character growth for him while Takumi has maxed out on being a master of technique purely by delivering tofu.
>>28654330Are you talking about the kid in the very last episode?
>>28654939Maybe he means that part where there were two trash goofballs that showed up pretending to be takumi and keisuke as a whole "audience, don't imitate this manga/show, you are not Takumi" segment. It's been a long ass time but it was probably in fourth stage.
>>28654085t. chang
>>28654971DIS RO NO OPEN YETCUM BAK NEX WEEK
>>28653779the 3d animation for the races is what killed the whole show for me
>>28654332>who would have guessed that roads look like this in real lifesorry we dont race down goat paths in your 3rd world country .
the show jumped the shark when Takumi got a Group A engine but we're supposed to believe that there's any suspense in racing some literal who in a Miata that lives in the middle of nowhere
>>28653933t. marvel movie enjoyer
>>28654159>street race teams don't have a pit crew and parts van following them, you don't have galleries for street racesKek anon yes this is the caseEven in the west, Aus/NZ/US when a group of friends go to do mountain runs they will have a support car (4wd) in case anyone needs to be pulled out of a ditch, and a ute/van with spare tires and jacks etc.Depending how big the group of friends are there will also be a gallery, not initial d tier size but a gallery nonetheless.You can even watch some old video option tapes and see touge runs with dozens of people watching.
>>28655366Remember when the show tried to sell us the duel between the AE86 with a Group A engine and a fucking Kei car (Suzuki Cappuccino) as some sort of spectacle?
>>28655366>>28656403they kind of fucked up royally giving dogumi an engine that's putting out over 2x stock power. the 86 had better power/weight than a stock FD after that. by no means was he driving a slow turd and spanking people, he had a legitimately fast sports car.
>>28653828He lost like 4 times, he himself says "I don't feel like a winner". The autor pretty much agrees with this and shows how big of a gap between him and his opponent was (especially in his race vs Toshiya) but at that point the main "objective" of the show was already set in motion so it would be kinda hard to steer it into a different direction. It's not the same as when Akio from Wangan Midnight wrecks his car as there isn't a big overarching plot WM has to worry about keeping up.
>>28655366He still had to use a gimmick against Toru though with the open gutter overtake, that's the funny part. That's the thing most people forget when it comes to Initial D: The "literal who's" are incredible drivers too, they just don't have plot armour to help them.
>>28656454>sports carYou think a good engine is all that's required for something to be a good sports car? The rest of the car is still trash, this point is made multiple times throughout the series and hell, even WITH the engines he still has to resort to doing all kinds of hail marry attempts at victory. The only time the 86 performs well enough where it doesn't come down to that is with the race against the Altezza, and even that is because the guy decided to throw the race.
>>28656923>The rest of the car is still trashNot even going to bother with someone so retarded.
>>28656454The 4-AG is a dog and the corolla is a heap. Get over it weeb.
>>28656919>>28656923It's a fictional story. Takumi struggles as much as the author wanted him to. It doesn't matter if it was realistic or not.
>>28657007The 86 is just a slightly souped up Corolla, is your picture supposed to mean something? Who are you calling retard? Also what does it even have to do with anything? Rally cars and road cars have fuckall in common. Are you going to tell me Peugot 206 GTI's are godlike cars too because they were driven in rallies too retard?
>>28653779What is this even supposed to mean?
>>28653828https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC0YAJR6xQQ
>>28656454To be fair the show is about downhill racing. The power of the car's engine really isn't all that important as the weight distribution and aerodynamics. Basically it's the adult version of soapbox derby, and by adult version I mean more expensive.
>>28657036AE86 rally cars and road cars don't have much separating them really
>Lost to an Evo 3>Should've lost to to the EK9, won by bullshit>Should've lost to S2000 CR, won by bullshit>Should've lost to AE86, won by bullshitI love the show, but even in Dragon Ball the main cast gets their shit kicked in multiple times before the bullshit win comes through
>>28658760You forgot the encounter with Bunta, he just outright lost there.
>>28658767He did lose, but it wasn't a real race
>>28658773Street duels are battles of egos and bragging rights at the end of the day and it's not like it was a 3rd gear highway pull for 200 meters kind of "victory" anyway.
Why was Iketani such a beta in his encounters with Mako?
>>28658760>Should've lost to to the EK9, won by bullshitduct tape death match guy? or was that an eg?>even in Dragon Ball the main cast gets their shit kicked in multiple times before the bullshit win comes throughthey portray dogumi struggling every race
>>28658810>duct tape death match guy?The professional guy that shows up in a racing suit, Tomoyuki
>>28658810EG6 was Shingo's red civic. EK9 was the yellow Spoon Civic with the carbon hood driven by the Pro guy in 4th Stage.
The show jumped the shark when Takumi turned down this big titted babe for some 4/10 thot that whores herself out to Japanese businessesmen for pocket change
>>28659108>49kg of dead weight
>>28659112Imagine...
>>28658805I bet it was spite the publishers who told the author to add more personal stories
for me, it's blackouthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-STRDm9uMU
>>28659112Probably at least 6-7kg are from her gigantic tits. Takumi wouldn’t need her as a co-pilot either she can sit in the crowd and watch where all of the women belong.
>>28658805>immediately outclassed by an autistic kid that wasn’t really even interested doing togue runs or cars in general>Autistic kid drives his car and further reinforces their skill gap>his retarded friend starts outclassing him too>only skill in life is being a halfway decent gas station attendant >get the hots for chick but notice she has a picture of a 10/10 rich chad in her purseThat was just the straw that broke the camel’s back. He just couldn’t accept being an average guy and had a mental breakdown
>>28659013>>28659005dogumi literally held back in the race with him until he overheated his tires then just passed him with ease. I don't understand how he "won by bullshit"
>>28659108>I'll leave my used up slut for an older, more used up slut!>>28659193You're thinking about the first EK9 race, the bullshit one was the second race were the pro racer got overtaken on the last corner because an animal ran across the road causing him to swerve and open up a gap for Takumi
>>28659138kek>>28659172yeah but she was clearly into him. the amount of cringe in his behavior was painful
>>28654183in 80s and 90s popo turned blind eye to racing in mountains. The kids were racing on empty roads far from city, far from npcs so it was tolerated because they knew the kids were gonna race somewhere anyway so it was better to keep them on empty mountains instead in busy citiesthis is why mountain drifting was popular, midnight club tried to keep low and kanyo civics had hokey masks to stay anonymous
>>28659374I don't remember that at all, but that sounds retarded as fuck. Think I need to rewatch the show
>>28659819>>28659374Lmao what the fuckNot sure how I forgot this one, I think this is probably the dumbest win in the entire show. Think it's even dumber than wet leaves or godhand puking from exhaustion
>>28658760>>28658767>>28658773>tied or lost to Ryosuke on Akagi>lost to bald ass Kyoichi in Evo 3>lost to old man Bunta in WRX>lost to old man in Mercedes Benz E class>should have lost against the old pro in EK9 (total BS but blind attack and forever love were based so it gets a pass)>should have lost to the old boomer in the S2000Takumi can't beat the older guy in a bigger car.>>28659108Kino, but honestly he should have just let her groom him for a while. Smash the JK whore. Then get with the golf girl.Majority of women in ID are thots. Only real woman worth any time is Kyoko. Best girl naturally drives best car.
>>28659844>E classIt's an S class W140.
>>28659845That is not a W140 in the picture, looks more like a W201 E Klasse than an S.The lights are too straight edged, the lights on the W140 curve towards the mask
>>28654053yeah, but mainly because the engine blew up and even then the evo guy was like "it's not your fault, you are amazing and I want to suck your cock"
>>28658805Shigeno literally cannot write relationships which is why Takumi ends up with Female Takumi
>>28659439>yeah but she was clearly into him. the amount of cringe in his behavior was painfulYou pretty much explained incel behaviour.
>>28659193>>28659819You're thinking of Daiki but even so that's not true when Takumi starts chasing in the second round he comments on how scary fast Daiki is driving and that if he takes his foot off the accelerator for even a second he's gonna lose.Better yet then rewatching - read the manga! It's much more packed with details and elaborations that the show couldn't afford to keep in.
>>28659844>the old proTomoyuki is like in his early 30s at worst lol what do you mean "old"?
>>28653828It's a matter of shitty writers. Writers don't know how to make their MC lose outside of some ass pull, ie Pokemon XY ending, as a result everyone ends up mad at the loss. So to keep the sales coming and making everyone happy, the MC never loses. Unironically, people need to look at how WWE handles losses. Those writers know how to make a wrestler lose but for some reason no one else does.
>>28659844>he should have just let her groom him for a whileHe was 2 years younger than her
>>28659873He was losing to the evo before his engine blew up. It blew because he was pushing the car too hard trying to win.
>>28660238yeah but we need to be able to call Takumi undefeated during the Project D arc so that doesn't count
>>28660252He lost to his dad in the Subaru on his home track no less
Did anybody ever challenge him to drive uphill? All I know about this comic is that the hero knows that specific road super well, and since the races were downhill it wasn't so important that his car didn't have a lot of power
>>28660531>knows that specific road super wellhe stops racing on mt akina pretty early on in the series, so he doesn't have home town advantage for long. He goes on a tour of japan with a racing team where he races the downhill, and keisuke (the guy in the FD) races the uphill. I don't recall him ever doing a hill climb race, though realistically his car would be more than capable of it with like 240hp in a 2000lb car.
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>>28660736Nakazato tapped this fish lipped slut offscreen.
>>28660745the only thing Nakazato ever tapped was the outside wall in a left-hand turn
