We are all in agreement that car washes do a good enough job rather than a meticulous 2 hour hand job, yes?
That water is often what came off the last guys car. There is a place I tried and did a flick of the wiper to remove the last few drops of water to find a dirt line at the end of the stroke. The car had an even coat of brown on it.
>>28656843Inferior to the team of illegal migrants who, while causing the same damage to your paint as a scratch and shine, will at least get superior coverage in a few hard to reach places. I find they're often times cheaper, too.
>>28656843You got something against handjobs?
>>28656886>Inferior to the team of illegal migrantsdear god, no. i will do a machine wash every time before i let a beaner touch my car.
>>28656929>he doesn’t wash his own car>he lets clankers decide how clean his car should beSad
>>28656843>than a meticulous 2 hour hand job, yes?doing it yourself with a microfiber towel in 15 mins is superior
Are traditional auto washes really THAAAAT bad?I've had a brand new car for several months now, and am tired of hand washing it.
Touchless washes are mostly fine if they're cleaned regularly and don't use ultra dogshit chemicals. They will never do a perfect job and will leave waterspots unless you towel it off after, but at least they shouldn't do any long-term damage. Car washes with spinning brushes or rags will obviously scratch and swirl the shit out of your paint. I mean what else do you think is going to happen?
>>28656843pressure washer is better and i dont have to be around poor people
I went to one of those manual carwashes stalls, and some dude had to get out of his car and told me I was taking too long. I wanted to throw my soapy sponge in his dumb face. I told him I'll be another 10 mins because I still needed to scrub my wheels and rinse, and he got back in his car and started blaring the horn until he left.
>>28657348You're a fucking piece of shit. There are multiple NO BUCKET WASHING signs around you and you still do that autistic shit. Go do that stupid shit when it's not busy.
>>28657381Well, the odd thing about the stall is that they charged per minute which i thought was weird. But I found a work around. You don’t have to pay for the whole time you are there, only the water part. So I paid for 1 minute for the soap, and 1 minute for the rinse. Got my moneys worth.
>>28657381>Go do that stupid shit when it's not busy.First come first serve or you sick the cash wash police on me.
>>28656843If you live anywhere with hard water then the self-serve places (not the shitty automatic ones) give a much better clean than the traditional bucket methods
>>28656940Cringe
I’ve noticed automatic car washes don’t even wash the bugs off my hood
>>28656843Do you guys not get rain, where you live?
I go to a coin carwash at night and bring my own pre-filled bucket(s) and ceramic drying aid. I buy one round of water to spray the car down, then handwash with microfiber mitts, then another round of water to rinse, spray on ceramic drying aid, and use a drying towel to dry it off. That same drying towel gets the interior (the ceramic shit works on interior too)
>>28656962Touchless is fine. The ones like in your pic, hell no. I worked at one when younger and saw a tow-strap get picked up off a truck and proceed to beat the FUCK out the next car in line. Liability waiver: not our problem.
>>28656843Self serve car wash is king, but my crown vic P71 has the infamous ford paint prep issue where it’s crows-feet-cracking all over the roof, hood and trunk. If I ran it through a machine wash it would literally remove all the paint
>>28658131>Self serve car wash is king,washing your shit at home is king. Is everyone here just some apartment dweller cunt or something?
>>28658135consult >>28657440 and picreldeionizers need to be replaced after a certain amount of uses. This one can be uses 30-45 times before replacement. That means you're spending $5.5-8 on deionized water alone per wash if you do it at home. Add in the cost of foam/soap/wax/towels/window cleaner and you're spending $10-15 per wash at home if you're doing it right, and that's not even counting the upfront costs.Compare that to a self-serve touchless wash in my area that goes for $6-8 depending on the location and the choice is obvious.
>>28658144i'm retarded
>>28658135I was just washing my car with an actual soap bar and sponge. It took the dirt off but I don’t have any baby shampoo for a cheap wax alternative.
>>28658146>>28658144must suck to have hard water>self-serve touchless wash in my area that goes for $6-8 insanely cheap for a wash, one of my coworkers pays $40/month
>>28658135I used to think so too but am now convinced that it's impossible to clean the car with a sponge, mitt, 2 buckets, 3 buckets whatever and not put swirl marks in the clear coat. Foam cannons/pressure washers do jack shit, wipe the wet car with chamois after a foam canon job and the chamois comes out dirty. It also takes hours to do a decent job. Which will get ruined by the end of the week anyway because washing a car to a high standard guarantees rain the next day. Coin op touch-less self serve is done in 12 minutes and gets most of the way to being clean, without feeling bad when it inevitably gets dirty again in short order.
>>28658155what the hell are you doing to your car? how hundreds of thousands of detailers manage to wash a car just fine?
>>28656843no you're just a lazy retard
>>28658157I think they must polish the car after washing to account for swirl marks during the wash process. OR there's some learned process/skill that I don't understand that they use. I can't be arsed polishing the car every time I wash it. I'm of the OPINION that you need to clay bar the panels after washing but before polishing because washing doesn't remove every bit of grime, and the polishing pad will just create more swirl marks if it picks up a single grain of grit. SO the process is>pre-rinse>soap up>wash mit, 2 buckets>rinse>chamois(?) >clay bar>polishing machine>apply wax/protectantThis ends up taking up my entire Sunday afternoon and I feel wrecked afterwards. I still do this process once a year since I still enter my car into shows every now and then.
How do you clean your mitts? Washing machine?
>>28656962Only use them with single stage paint
Do one good hand washing washing a month, then swing by the touchless laser wash every day after work for their best wash because it's on the way home, takes me 4 extra minutes, and it was $20 a month for a year cause I got the membership when they opened up. It does great to get the pollen and dust/dirt off that settles overnight or during the day. Just keep a nice coat of wax over the ceramic and no issues. Their tire shine is shit but by the 3rd day your tires finally have full coverage.
Just rhino line your car dummy
>>28656843>touchless washes don't clean shit. >never dry properly and always leave water spots>tar/bugs still on regardless of what one i use or how much I pay for the "premium" shit>touch washes will fuck up your paint and rip your mirrors off.>coin car washes cost 5$ for 2 minutes, usually have broken equipment and don't let you dry your car in the bayYeah fuck all that, 15 minutes, a foam cannon and a pressure washer gets you 90% of the way clean. If my car is really bad it I'll use my wash mitt and the whole 2 bucket thing but otherwise just blast the dirt loose.
>>28656843I just let rain do its thing for free
>>28658208I wash my car once or twice a month and have not one swirl mark that wasn't already there when I bought it. It takes me about an hour and a half including setup, teardown, and coffee breaks.>snow foam all 4 wheels/tires, sit for a minute then rinse>brake buster all 4 wheels/tires, agitate and rinse>presoak entire car with snow foam, sit a minute then rinse>soak entire car and 4/5 mitts with foam shampoo>wipe car with one mitt per panel/area, use dedicated wheel mitt>rinse entire car>apply spray wax/ceramic/sealant whatever>towel dry, dedicated wheel towel>wipe the door/trunk/hood jambs with a finish detailer to halfass clean/protectYou only polish after thoroughly washing and claying and when paint correction is desired.
>>28658524Based black car chad. I just do a twice-monthly rinseless wash that takes about 30 minutes but it's such a nice little flex to be driving a black car that's always spotless.
>>28658208>I think they must polish the car after washing to account for swirl marksI think you're just bad at washing cars somehow.
>>28658208you don't need to clay a car often, and you shouldn't be polishing much at all as every time you do it you thin out the clearcoat/paint. Do it once to get rid of swirls, then it's just >wash>dry>refresh ceramic once every couple months
>>28658524>4/5 mitts>one mitt per panel/areawhat the fucking autism? professional detailers don't even do this.
>>28658653Of course not, their concern is to to the job as fast as possible but just good enough to satisfy the normie customer that can't tell a swirl mark from a skid mark.
>>28658798I'm talking about shit like ammonyc
>>28658798Nice results there. Shame it's ruined by your tint job on the lights. I wouldn't be surprised if you tinted your headlights and windshield and then proceed to wonder why its so dark at night. Or wonder why no one seems to know you're getting ready to turn.
>>28658806Never heard of this, but appears to be some youtuber that washes filthy barn finds for the first time in decades. The paint is already degraded, no need to worry about swirl marks when you're about to go through the whole paint correction process.
>>28657381the lion does not concern himself with the opinion of the sheep
>>28656843>meticulous 2 hour handjobCheaper, too.I can't afford those asian women's prices
>>28658002Rain doesn't remove road grime, brake dust, and all that other shit
>>28659107Why are your brakes dusty
>>28659145Because ceramics are not for speedy driving, figger naggot. I have to go down 14 miles of mountain 5 days a week.
>>28658208>prerinse>just move around the dirt without any lubrication Foam-rinse-foam-mitt. One bucket is fine. Don't bother with a bar more than twice a year. Spray on/rinse off sealant. Blow dry with an electric leaf blower
>>28656843I would agree if they would stop ripping parts off of my car.
>>28656843Pretty much yeah. Unless you have a really nice car or something you're looking to preserve. A touchless carwash is all you need.
>>28656962You'll get swirl marks in your top coat but you can remedy that pretty easy with an in depth detailing in the future.
>>28656843it depends if its hot chicks in bikinis
>>28659768only if they give me a meticulous 2 hour hand job afterwards
>>28658867Ammonyc is a detailer that has his own line of detailing products. He does a lot of barn find videos now I think, but he has a lot of normal detailing videos as well
>>28656843Depends on how dirty it was to begin with and how long that dirt has had to bond to the clear coat. A lot of washes reuse the water as well. This is even worse at a brush wash. I prefer to rinse with a pressure washer. Then bukake my rigs with my foam cannon. Then use a nice mitt to rub the whole thing down. Then rinse with the pressure washer again. Last I dry and wax it. I only wash it maybe four times a year.
i just let rain wash it
>>28658135I have a pressure washer and do my own shit when the weather allows, but I can't use them during the winter and that's when it's particularly important to keep stuff clean (road salt etc.) so I'm stuck using car washes in that season.
>>28658131>If I ran it through a machine wash it would literally remove all the paintMaybe do that and then give it an actual decent paint job.
>>28658155>wipe the wet car with chamois after a foam canon job and the chamois comes out dirty.>wipe down a dirty car while cleaning it and my rag gets dirtyoh my god the horror
>>28658155The trick that's worked well for me is to forget about sponges, mitts, and all that bullshit, and just put a bunch of microfibers in soapy water and then use one per panel/section of the car and never put it back in the water. The process then becomes>prerinse>soap with foam cannon>wipe down with soapy microfibers>rinse>dryAnd then add whatever additional paint correction etc. you need to do. Personally I think wax/clay/polish after every single wash is crazy, if you're using a quality wax it should only need to be done once a season and the rest are only as needed, but ymmv if you're showing the car etc.
>>28658135>washing your shit at home is king. Is everyone here just some apartment dweller cunt or something?you can wash your car at home if you live in an apartment, i have a ryobi dual 40V battery operated pressure washer
