Will we ever get a car that has all three?
>>28657009Yeah it's called a c5 corvette.
does fast and reliable even exist?
>>28657012yeah but it aint cheap
>>28657012Porsche Panamera 2.9, 4.8, or 4.0T.
>>28657009Motorbikes solved this.
>>2865700910 years ago when you could get a brand new 400+ HP pony car for 30k and some change
the faggots in this website won’t accept it but the corvette exemplifies all three without a question
>>28657009Behold.
>>28657010>>28657181>slowvette
>>28657035/thread
>>28657009Tesla: I got you senpaiFanboys: NO@!!! NOT LIKE THAT!!!!!!
>>28657184>marginally slower than gt-r>considerably cheaper than gt-r>much more reliable than gt-r
Westfield with about 250hp>oh nooooo it’s not PRACTICALYeah, that wasn’t a requirement. It’s got BHP/ton of a 911 Turbo, costs nothing to run and buy, will not break and even if it does it’s easily repaired
>>28657181c6 isn't that cheap and has some semi complicated electrical bullshitc5 is cheap and very easy to maintain. c5 is the answer
>>28657032>Porsche>reliablemaybe for a German car, but that's like being tall for a midget
>>28657009Used Tesla Model 3 is cheap, fast and reliable
>tesla>reliable
>>286570092005-2015 mustangs
>>28657035This
>>28657250Eh, C5 and C6 are about in the same ballpark nowadays. Low trim C7s too.
>>28657009
lots of cars have all 3. the problem is that 'fast' is never fast enough
>>28657382>Eh, C5 and C6 are about in the same ballpark nowadays10-15k isn't the same ballpark as 20-25k, nor is it the same in terms of wrenching. >Low trim C7s too.now you're just saying shit.
Like the other anon said, fast will never be fast enoughLate model G37s/370z (2012+) that have had all their odd issues fixed are very reliable, decently fast for the price you can get them atHardest challenge will just be getting one that doesn't have a horrible history
I just want hyper reliable + slidey. I don't give a fuck about being "fass" and "raysin". I just want to go sideways to the grocery store at 20MPHWAT CAR(don't u dare say GayR86 that shit too slow, i want like 1000HP so it'll effortless spin tires at 1000 RPM)(no i don't have the money to build a Hoonicorn or some shit like that)
>>28657502shut up, retard
>>28657502you can't have a reliable 1000hp on the cheap, genuinely try to prove me wrong
>>28657513ok maybe i don't need a 1000 but i literally want a car that CANT maintain traction. so you're just constantly in state of counter-steerinternet says 350Z/G37. and everything points to Miata/GR86 but i've never seen a video of those easily drifting every corner. you have to full throttle those weak shits to break traction
>>28657012Built and tuned Volvos
>>28657519put shitty, too narrow, used tires on any rwd car with more than 300hp
>>28657502literally any truck with a v8
why are you guys responding to a 12 year old?
>>28657534sir, i'm 52
My Civic Si was cheap, $10k It's fast. I can out accelerate 99% of cars on the road It's got great pickup between 50-80mph, I have no issues passing and going around slow fucksAnnd it has never let me down, has zero issues160k milesI think my car hits all 3.
>>28657519my miata with an NB2 engine swap and shitty kumho all seasons on the back breaks traction instantly and will chirp fucking 4th gear, sliding the back everywhere is its mission from god
>>28657035>>28657185>>28657312Meh, can't argue with the bikefags there
>>28657622>It's fast. I can out accelerate 99% of cars on the roadUh, sweatie, 200hp and no torque?> Annd it has never let me down, has zero issues> 160k milesUh, sweatie? Paint, clutch, pads, rotors, calipers, soft lines, MC, A/C, battery terminals, heat blend door, generator, the falling clothing hooks, the rusted off exhaust heat shield, O2 sensor, broken arm rest door, suspension bushings all gone by now, shocks, fuel pump. Wouldn't call that nothing.I woudln't call it unreliable, but that's not nothing.
NA Ford Focus. Engines easily pull more than 200-250k with just oil changes. Get it manual and it'll last forever.
>>28657808You missed the fast part For cars, corvette is basically the only answerMotorcycles are the real answer if you're not a pussy afraid of 2 wheels
>>28657187Tesla's aren't reliable tho.
>>28657473It's not 2019, C5s are getting into 20k territory now.
>>28658057No they're not.They're very easy to find for 10-15k. I literally just sold one last year.
>>28657009Used Tesla or Slate truck.
>>28657009A fast and reliable car - second hand
>>28658081Maybe some auto convertible
>>28658370I'm so tired of know nothing faggots posting here. What's the point of your argument when it's extremely easy to disprove? Why do you even bother posting at all?>umm actually pal, grass is pink and 2+2 is 37.Just shut the fuck up.
>>28658370
>>28658370Even this guy's z06 isn't selling for barely over 15k
>>28658370Want an automatic? People basically have to give them away they're so worthless C5s are 10-15k cars. Paying more is only for BaT shit 500 mile failed investments.
>>28657878Objectively wrong. It requires pretty much no maintenance compared to a used ICE car with similar high mileage
>>28659296>catches fire and traps you inside>battery dies and now the whole care needs to be thrown awaygreat "car" you got there
>>28659364>catches fire and traps you insideIrrelevant exception. Drive with a glass-breaker if you're so paranoid>battery dies and now the whole care needs to be thrown awayBatteries on Tesla 3 have 80-85% by 200k miles. ICE cars have way less resource of their drivetrains by then.You can also recondition and repair the battery if it's out of warranty (generours 8 year/120k miles)
>>28657521>volvo>reliable
>>28659972Volvo 5 cylinders will do 500k at 500+ hp if you build them right.
>>28657009C5Z06
>>28657009best car that min-maxes cheap and reliable?
>>28660459But what about everything else in the car
>>28657010>AmerislopNo
>>28660520Toyota honda mazda of course(assuming you can get a good deal on them)If you live in Europe: older, small VWs, Skodas and SEATs(which are basically VWs) also apply, Hyundai i10s, generally small hatchbacks that you see a lot on the road
>>28660546Body and frame components are pretty rust resistant(swedish winters), and the interiors are no worse than any other car produced in the last 30 years.
>>28657217how can a vette be more reliable than a fucking nissan?
>>28660597>frame
>>28660602the corvette is a truck with a sports car body. LS engines easily hit 200-300k without any major work.
>>28657012Corvette, new NSX
>>28660641subframes are still frames, anonYou know what I mean.All the steel bits under the car.
>>28657035this
>>28660602That's like asking how an f150 can haul more than a powerwheels. Doesn't take much, chief.
>>28660658>subframes are still frames, anonAnd women are men, right?
>>28660679Your brain is a pile of rotten mush, unlike the structural components of my Volvo.
>>28660686Now let's see these structural components
>>28660696I'm not going to go out and crawl under my car to appease you. The bushings are pretty tired after almost 200k miles, but the actual steel only has surface rust after 20 years of Ohio winters.