Why do Americans hate this brand?
raped by porsche, corvette, camaro, v6 chally, etc
>>28669266brittle plastic trash
>>28669266They're fairly expensive for what they are. Decent interiors and they're technically good, but when they're 25% more expensive than the competition, they're known to be fragile with over-engineered German bullshit, and repairs are extra expensive too. Plus on top of that the 'enthusiasts' of BMWs are usually deplorable shitskins or guys who sniff their own farts for an assumption of superiority. Alternatively you have women driving them because they think its a luxury car like a Mercedes. That being said I do want an older Z4.
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>>28669266Because they’re poor. BMW is based if you’re rich.
I like em but then again I also touch grass
>>28669294Why are hiding the rod bearing failures?
We don't. They make RWD manuals.We hate the uppity yuppie bitches that have some persecution complex about what brand they buy and try to turn car discussion into some ego shit.But also, air/water intercoolers *inside* the intake manifold? What a nightmare.
>>28669281>they think its a luxury car like a MercedesIs it not?
>>28669385No, its just expensive. They have similar interiors to Toyotas and Kias and Hyundais now.
>>28669266Because for some reason, their drivers are almost all speed demons who don't know what a blinker is.
>>28669325Nice favela.
>>28669266They make nice bikes
>>28669364that's where everyone puts them
>>28669275>v6 chally
>>28669406This except>speed demonmeans going 5 over and trying to cut up only to get stuck when they hit the pack of 20 retards blocking both lanes and tailgating each other.
>>28669281>BMWs are usually deplorable shitskins or guys who sniff their own farts for an assumption of superiorityTavarish is a BMW hater tho
>>28669266Because I hate every brand. I like some of their cars, but liking/disliking something solely based on which massive corporation made it is fucking stupid and just kills any real discussion.
>>28669534*Made
>>28669266Parts and repairs are two expensive. Is it like this in Europe?
>>28669266Not me. I love my x3M40i - hit almost 265K miles. Zero issue. Very reliable.
We don't. Least I don't. Still prefer benz but it has a seat at the table.
>>28669266On the other hand, why does /o/ worship this brand?
>>28669266over priced, over engineered, under powered (apart from M cars), under reliablethey are rather sexy, but so is a methhead hooker
>>28672504>sexy, but so is a methhead hookernigga you've never been within 20 feet of any methhead if you think any of them can be attractive. that or you're clinically blind
because america is a jewish country and germans killed a bunch of jews back in the day
>>28672719lmao cry more virgin
>>28669266Mutts don't know how to take care of cars.
They used to be easy to work on with mid powered inline 6s, giving a smooth ride with a smooth transmission in a nice interior.Now they are:>plastic using>seat warmer subscription>Chinese consumer aiming>forced induction standard>"X-Drive">significantly over-complicated everything>still plagued with electrical problems>V8s have never made a good power/weight or power/cylinder/displacement ratio EVER. I'm not sure why they try at this point because their V8's are HEINOUS to work on.>auto transmissions still absolute shit>manual transmissions significantly harder to find on non sport cars in US>every part must come from Germany because all their foreign parts manufacturers essentially only make parts for assemblyYou can see it just by who owns BMW's today. Used to be the joke that it stood for "Black man's wife" because it was a very nice car that niggers used to buy before securing a house or anything else more important. People used to think they were fun to drive. They were cool, styled amazingly, and now it's driven by rich cunts and retards trying to act like they can afford the "life of luxury". The US really only sells their SUV's anymore, and rich cunts buy shit like 6 series that aren't an M^ but the "M" badge that gets added to any trim these days. There's no prestige with the brand anymore. It became what Mercedes became after they stopped making reliable cool vehicles. >Shitty>Overpriced>Money pits
>>28675434I agree on all counts, but did you need to 35-hour bump another BMW thread to the top? We have enough of them.
>>28672729>can only get with lot lizardsweird flex but ok
>>28673319Between Mercedes and BMW, I can't tell you which manufacturer requires more one off tools for *one stupidly specific bolt* that won't ever be used for anything else. I mean really, you can shit on Americans for being stupid (90% are) but my god Germans are just autistic. They never have engineers think about "hmm, Hans, what happens if these part we're making Syrians in Turkish factories produce need to be replaced? Vouldn't it be bad that zey have to remove ze entire bumper, radiator, intake, and coolant hoses to get zis one bolt out?""Ach mein gott Karl, it vill be pasht varrenty at zat point so who cares?""Ohh jaa, lets watch some Arabs rape girls in downtown Berlin jaa"meanwhile BMW execs wondering why they keep losing out to fucking Lexus in every market except China (who is just stealing their tech and giving it to BYD)
>>28675438It's chinks asking because it's their most sought after brand in China. They come to NA and wonder why we all hate this brand.
>let's make the oil filter housing out of plastic>And continue to use metal filters
>>28675626Wait'll you find out about plastic oil pans, intakes, and other common items replaced with plastic.
>>28669325Yes! Finally got a real BMW.I'm driving that thing when I come down to get those wheels<muh reddit space>We don't all hate BMWs; that's only weeblet slowfaglets
>>28669266I have zero idea how BMW manages to sell a single 5 series when the Genesis G80 exists
Because it's the shittiest pile of shit that has ever been put in a junkyard. It makes Chrysler seem like Toyota by comparison
>>28669266Jews and Niggers brainwash Americans to hate White Europeans
>>28669266Like all things we don't hate the brand, just the people who drive them like dickheads.
>>28676771No one is disputing that BMW drivers are the worst drivers on the road. But brainwashed to hate BMW? BMW has committed more sins than any other automaker, and no reasonable white man prefers these piles of garbage.>heated seats as a subscription service>plastic engines>plastic transmissions>plastic intakes and exhausts>plastic everything
>>28676775>implying Americans don't talk the same shit about every Euro manufacturer
>>28676783Absolutely untrue. BMW has a special place. Mercedes, VW, Audi, and all the other German cars put together don't get 1/10th of the hate that BMW gets.
>>28669266US fuel quality is dogshit and ruined a lot of engines that used nikasil lining.>Nikasil was very popular and was used by companies such as BMW, Ducati, Jaguar and Moto Guzzi in their new engine families. >However, the sulfur found in much of the world's low-quality gasoline caused some Nikasil cylinders to break down over time, causing costly engine failures.Then BMW also sent gimped versions of the M3 to the US but gave Canada the Euro spec versions, no idea why that happened desu.
Americans hate not being #1 so they reject anything unamerican
>>28676821The only thing BMW is #1 in is retarded drivers and plastic engine components
>>28676796>dumb fucking europoors make bad cars with unproven technology then blame americanslol
>>28669364god look at all that plastic
>>28669560He's become the new frosty at this point. In a couple years he'll get arrested doing something stupid, sent to prison, then get his dick chopped off after getting a couple years of tayquan's love.
>>28669325they don't make cars like this anymore. both left and right.
>>28676775This. At least they arent 2026 Audi level of terrible, pic related, but yeah.Top pic is OLD Q3Bottom pic is NEW Q3>>28676783>Whatabout faggotKys retard
>>28669534They're all overpriced, and mostly trash except for the big GS and the S1000
>>28676825I didn’t imply BMW was #1 (even though it is).I implied compared to mutt brands BMW takes the cake
>>28677191How is that whataboutism? Americans hate Euros and constantly talk shit about European cars, not just BMW.
>>28676827>no issues across Europe and other firstie countries>went to shit in the US and thirdie countries only
>>28669294>N54Why would you buy a turbo petrol BMW? If you want to spoil the experience by going turbo at least buy the diesel engine for ez power.
>>28677863>>no issues across Europe and other firstie countriesDrop the cap.
>>28677947I'm being no cap and very fr.
>>28677950Blud my first car was a 525 E34 and I owned multiple BMWs over the years. They are somewhat reliable cars but not outstanding.
>>28677406We werent talking about Euro brands we were talking about BMW. You should kys
>>28677034frosty was weak and stupid and did illegal things he fittingly paid the price fori on the other hand hold the ultimate power over youyou can't even use this board of one second without being constantly reminded of my complete and total mogging of your person, you cope and seethe every day trying to slide the board with your gay germoid rental cope threadsone day the stress of my complete superiority will be too much to bear and like the plastic hoses in your car, eventually you will crack.
>>28677863>euros mostly drive 4cyl diesels>most 6 series BMWs sold in the UK were diesel until 2017>Euros don't pay import taxes on every partyeah wowalso>every BMW V8 is trash power to cylinder and displacement>they are all horribly complicated and take many specialized tools to work on or drop the entire engine to access>engine bays are designed to have as little possible space>all modern BMW's are front-mid engined cars because they are lazy with weight distribution and just push the motor further back until your back cylinders are 5mm away from the /\ shaped firewallAS I TYPE THIS IDOCARS LITERALLY PULLING A SHITHEAP N63https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnyVlx8TmNY
>>28678409Not reading all your bullshit. See you in a few years future frostina.
>Be me>See mint condition early 70s fluorescent yellow BMW for sale at dealership>take a look at the interior>its almost entirely cheap looking black injection moulded plastic>Realize this thing cost as as much as Cadillac back in the day but has material quality worse than a US subcompact from the same time costing less than 1/4 the price.WTF is wrong with European cars?
>>28678448oh and we're supposed to read all of yours? hundreds of gay cope threads about your fragile plastic sauerkraut company cope car every day?lollmao evensee you in a few years when you're driving a hyundai
>>28678478>Another LN of a post.
>nooo your post is too long and white like your massive challenger-length penis i can't read it with my tiny squinty brown eyeskeep digging that hole pal
>>28678426>be in Australia>diesel BMWs are rare>majority of models here are the 6cyl petrol models, but Mercedes is 50/50 on being petrol or diesel>all extremely reliablewow.the only shitheaps are the V8s from bmw and mercedes, germans just cant make V8s imo. Australia also had local V8s anyway so there was no point in trying to sell them here really.>they are all horribly complicated and take many specialized tools to work on or drop the entire engine to access>engine bays are designed to have as little possible spaceyou have literally never worked on one and it shows. bmw is probably one of the few with a lot of space, while audi basically requires you to take the front bumper off on the smaller models.t. worked on a lot of my own and my mates euro cars
>>28678515all the german companies engineer their cars to fail in a specific timeframe because the german auto industry thrives on leasing fleets to businesses and if they made reliable cars the entire scheme would fall apart. vag makes their cars difficult to service on purpose. bmw makes their cars excessively fragile. mercedes makes theirs excessively complicated and full of sensitive electronics. german cars are complete trash.
>>28678519they're not set to fail in a time period, it's just a knock on effect of ignoring maintenance. they are reliable if you fix what needs fixing and dont just let it rot and spread to something else.people treat lease cars like shit so its no surprise a former lease is going to have issues, same shit happens with fleet cars. i have a toyota as a work car that the company gave me and the underbody is messed up beyond belief and it has warning lights from not being maintained by the employee i replaced. the boss also doesn't give a shit that its been treated like shit, its pretty stunning and i assume its because he gets so much back in taxes for it.
>>28678525>they're not set to fail in a time periodyes they are, in facthttps://wolfpen.com/the-wolfpen-blog/f/the-most-unreliable-german-cars-of-the-past-ten-yearshttps://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14693062.2018.1533446#abstractthe lease terms and warranty lengths are carefully arranged so that the cars are traded in every 36 months or more, with parts specifically designed to fail catastrophically beyond that period in order to ensure compliance. it's why the german auto industry is failing because even the koreans make more durable, reliable cars.
>>28678519>all the german companies engineer their cars to fail in a specific timeframeThat's literally every company
>>28669266I hate BMW because of it's ugly pig nose grill. I don't understand anything about car performance and engines and I buy solely based on looks and fuel economy, so I like Audi, Jaguar, Nissan, and Volvo.
>>28678426In that video he says he owns 7 or 8 BMWs that he likes, and that their V8s after 2009 are good. He also says the N63 runs great and is incredibly tuneable while it is runningJust get an S63 with forged internals if you're worried about it
>>28678462Delusional
>>28678540They just werk n my machines *shrug nigmoji*
>>28678673Thanks for proving my point
>>28678571wrong
>>28678670lmao shill, he said he likes about 7/8 BMW models and does not at all say their their post 2009 V8's are good because if you had actually watched the video, he says 2 min later that this was pulled from a 2011.Their V8's are trash and that's 90% of their upper trim/sporty cars aside from the M3. M5/6M/M7 all v8's.>oh you can make the easiest and most balanced engine in the world after focusing on it solely since the 70's>unable to make a V8 that doesn't shit itself since 1988>only reason they didn't shit themselves then was they made almost no power in comparison to other manufacturer's V8s.>>28678515>bmw is probably one of the few with a lot of space, while audi basically requires you to take the front bumper off on the smaller models.Holy cope batman, now I know you're a busriding faggot who has never been under the hood of a beamer.>pic related, the 2011 6 series that the IDoCars video was pulled from>>so much space!!!Even in the inline 6 engine bay there's no fucking room, you AUS cuck. Go back to bench racing against the chinks and pajeets you idiots have been importing
>>28678515>bmw is probably one of the few with a lot of space>>a lot of space
>>28678673>he thinks the forcibly biodegradable wires and plastic the EU forced all euro manufacturers to use is SOVLThese BMW fanboys have never owned a BMW or worked on one before. Don't listen to them rage that they picked arguably the worst modern manufacturers to praise
It's a brand for brown "people".
>>28678673This is the exact car
>>28669266I hate it because I hate the idea that performance has to be gatekept behind overly complicated overly expensive "luxury" bullshit. Just give me the engine and transmission in the cheapest possible car. That's the foundation behind the entire American auto industry and why the Mustang and Challenger are so beloved. We just want as much hp per dollar as we can get
>>28669266Asshole drivers
>>28679695No, that's a fuckin RACE CAR, son!
>>28678970I own 4 BMWs though
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>>28678970Mutt hands typed this post
>>28678958>>28678961>looks like literally every engine bay everDo you just work on cars from the 50s or what? Pretty much every engine bay of the last 30 years looks like that.
>>28679734>>28679740thanks for proving my point that that was the only thing he said that you didn't lie about lol>>28679778>looks like another slightly less cramped engine bayThe hyundai actually has more space lol keep coping about your turkmobile
>>28680643I said he owns 7 or 8 BMWs, to which you called me a shillHow is me showing you that he in fact owns 7 or 8 BMWs and would buy more proving anything else?
