I WANT NEW CAR
>>28670278And I want an old car but new.
>>28670279>first contact with ayy lmaos>"hey do you guys have a molecular assembler there's a bunch of parts i'd really like but they're all NOS
>>28670290>i mean uhh, NLA. all those scalping faggots want 6 gorillion bucks for a fucking door trim
>>28670278>I WANT NEW CAR
I've never desired a new car. Actually I never gave a shit about cars until i started looking into 90s and early 2000s cars.
>>28670278Why do you want a smartphone with wheels?
https://www.topgear.com/car-news/usa/here-are-10-cheapest-new-cars-you-can-buy-us
>>28670299This is supposed to be bad? These electronics give you so much cool features old cars don't have
>>28670278A brand new car is a biggest financial mistake an average person can make
my volvo 940 turbo with 530000 kms is better than any new car, fact
>>28670299>give give
>>28670278My mom acted like this when she found out how high the tax is on new cars in my state
>>28670382If the car is fun to drive, you don’t need bing bing wahoo.>manual transmission >rwd>v6 minimum Hell, if it’s a v8 you don’t even need a stereo. But keep in mind all those sensors and electronics make it so that more can go wrong, and it’s nigh impossible to fix.
>>28670299oh my god is… is that… wiring for the cabin lights, power windows, and seat belt sensor?!?AAAhhhhhh save me niggerman! I need manual locks and hand crank windows ahhhhhh!
Don't worry anon, soon it will be illegal to own cars, you'll just lease something cheaply like everyone else. Aren't you happy? And since you never owned one, your hands are blood free! Though you are no doubt guilty of countless other thought crimes!
>>28670528dont need no fag shit
>>28670528You're so goddamn dumb.
>>28670278I'm the exact opposite. I work in a professional setting (Law, I'm studying for my Bar exam), and everyone is expected to drive a nice, new car. I just want to keep driving my 5-speed japanese econobox from the 00s.
>>28670545Get an old but classy car. It will let you stand out but in a good way. You can show off you have money but without having to drive a nucar. Something like an old bmw 7 series, or a Citroën SM. Whatever really.
>>28670563Or just stop giving a fuck what others think and enjoy your car.
>>28670471Let's see your povertybox
>>286705340_0
>>286706012010 mustang GT, manual. It was 12k with 85k miles. (lens on my phone broke, and the sensor got damaged as a result-- so ignore the shitty image quality. i cannot be assed to get a new phone.)
>>28670299this image really highlights how low IQ some people are. low IQs immediately get frightened by an image like this and come up with all sorts of conclusions instead of thinking critically
>>28670382are you a jeet or zoomer or both?
>>28670278I try to avoid new cars. To much technology that my boomer dad doesn't know how to fix (he's my mechanic).
i dont inherently hate car tech, but when your front bumper contains a bunch of proprietary sensors that can only realistically be calibrated at the dealership then yea its all money grabbing desert religion
>>28670471while sensors are technically another thing to go wrong, in practice they’re an early warning for a much more expensive thing going wrong, so they should be either lowering your maintenance bills or increasing the longevity of your car or both.
>>28670670BMW
>>28670382All a car really needs is aircon, phone holder and bower & wilkins. Rest is retardedI too like to buy new and stick with it until it's fully fully end of life. Don't like the idea of buying a used car
>>28670545Based Saul
>>28670565Some jobs require a newer car.Lawyers, doctors, vets, real estate agents. A classic car also works though.Show up in a fully restored impala or something and it's fine
>>28670632Nobody needs to think critically to know that you are a faggot
>>28670632High IQ anons immediately think about what to do When all that shit breaks.But then remember they drive a 40yr old car and don't have to worry about it
>>28670767>HELP HELP HELP IM BLEEDING OUT UMMM BEFORE YOU OPERATE ON ME CAN I SEE YOUR CAR KEYS? I DONT WANT POORFAGS UP IN MY GUTS.
>>28670382saar I want my car to generate big boob ai porn and jerk me off while I commute to mr. shekelberg's
>>28670278 how do you balance between getting an old cheap car and also getting a car with a nonfucked spare parts market
>>28670767>Lawyers, doctors, vets, real estate agents.The only one of these where your car is even tangentially connected to your work is real estate.
>>28670914time travel back to 2011
>>28671137fuck dude
>>28670767Most retarded take I read today.If anything the stupidity that reeks from your post points out the fact that some jobs are overpaid.
>>28670914In the US? The most popular jap econobox you can find because the USDM is cooked as I hear. Maybe Ford and Chevy are viable choices.In Europe? Same as above + anything BMW 3 or 1 series, Volkswagen exonoboxes, Peugot, Opel, and several other EUDM brands I am too tired to remember.t. own E90 316i and parts are still plenty(though it's not that old desu)You can still find parts for even the E36. Probably the E30 too
>>28671152Anon, I know this confuses you.But normal people are not gonna like seeing their doctor driving a $2,000 shit box.The Autism makes us think differently But that's how normal fags think.
>>28671169>turbo i6>300hpEconobox really must mean something different to different people.you say econobox and i think>fiesta>prism>crxetc
>>28670883Dude you’ve never dailied a 40 year old car. Shit breaks from being 40 years old. 20 is the absolute limit for a reliable daily, even for jap cars.
>>28670543You're so poor
>>28670278>i want floating ipad and digital guagesbruh
>>28671812my car is 39 years old and its great
>>28670431This, the amount of money even a basic economical ass car loses in value means you need to be a millionaire to afford this shit, niggas literally spend $28,000 on Honda Civics that all end up being worth 3K at some point, and they'll keep buying new cars or leasing over and over, which means they eat depreciation their entire life just to drive slow as fuck economy cars that are new.
>>28671842Everything depreciates, even houses. Land is the only hard asset that doesn’t.
>>28671816Nah, but I have functioning brains.
>>28671842depreciation is a peak midwit thing to bring up. nobody buys a car thinking>I’m going to drive this around for years and then turn it back into as much money or more than I paid for itthey buy a car with the mindset of>I’m going to spend 28k on a machine I can use to make money and improve the quality of my lifeI spent 18k on my car and I fully expect it to be as valuable as scrap metal when I replace it.
>>28671842A car isn’t an asset retard. Why do midwits always talk about muh depreciation
>>28670278Yeah, but just think about all the crusty boogers under the driver's seat.
>>28671322That was exactly my point you fool.A doctor driving a cheap shitbox/econobox shouldn't look weird just because he makes a million a yearAnd maybe some doctors or lawyers are paid too much(that was also part of my point but you know, sallaries vary)
>>28670290>Ayys pull out the universal translator and say, "Sorry man, same problem here. I can't get a dark-matter impulse pump for my hooptie for money or love anywhere."
>>28672944Hey it's you again. It's the very definition of an asset, you stupid fucking nigger.>property owned by a person or company, regarded as having value and available to meetdebts,commitments, orlegacies.
>>28673323i think he confused investment with asset? dunno.but yeah if you buy a fucking new bmw for 120k, then sell it a couple years later for 30k, that's not an insignificant amount of depreciation.
>>28673331He's been screaming that cars aren't assets until he's been blue in the face for over a year on /o/. Even though they get labeled depreciating assets all the time.
>>28673331Why would you do that instead of using the car for less than a quarter of its useful life? This is the problem with thinking of a car as a financial asset. It is primarily a tool, and it's worth and usefulness as a tool has little to do with it's monetary value.
>>28673377fuck if i know? but it happens all the time; where do you think used cars come from? :)
>>28673381expired leases
>>28671416The 316i has 100hp. BMW and Mercedes make shitboxes in Europe, it's interesting seeing them have a prestige image in other countries.
>>28670767I’m doctor and people generally get pissed and make comment if you drive a nice car.‘Is this procedure making your car payment!?!?!’
>>28673731Well my point of reference was the used 2011 135i e88 i had for my last car.It was a shitbox with 90k miles that I got for $9k; BUT it definitely isn't what I'd call an econobox.(n55, decently fast car)As for prestige, no not at all, hah. the interior was falling apart, it creaked and rattled, some dingus thought he was some kind of tunerbro and tried wrenching on it and completely fucked up so badly my mechanic told me to "run away from this car as fast as you can."
>>28670278Just buy a cool old car like a Volvo 240
>>28672944So you can't sell your car once you've paid it off?
>>28673741Kek. Whenever I'm in a surgicenter I drive my sedan. If I'm parking at the hospital physician lot I drive my sports car.Can't blame them. If I see a contractor come to my house in a ram trx with giant tires I'd think they're ripping me off also.
>>28674468>Having to take a day off work to dick with a contractor.You are getting screwed over completely. If you had money you'd be a dude who writes the check after texting the door code to a vetted, insured company.Don't know why middle class dudes want to stand around and watch contractors talk on the phone all day. Bizarre.
>>28671812>t. has never dailied a 20 year old car>>28670538Look, I like my cars pretty spartan, but I do require an engine.
>>28671322>normal people are not gonna like seeing their doctor driving a $2,000 shit box.Normal people think their doctor lives at the hospital (and in many cases they're not wrong). They have no idea what he drives, as evidenced by the fact you don't know how many doctors drive 30yo shitboxes because they cba to go buy a new one>>28673331>buy a fucking new bmw for 120kImagine paying that much for a "luxury" car>then sell it a couple years later for 30kImagine selling your car to a stealership for a handshake and $3.50 store creditJust because you're bad with money doesn't mean cars are a bad thing to spend money on.
>>28674592oh my god you fucking midwit. it's an example. use any fucking numbers you want. >buy new car>go to trade it in>surprised pikachu.png.bmp.jpg.tiffif you're keeping it till the wheels fall off, that's great, this doesn't apply to you at all. fanfuckingcuntytastic.god you people are so fucking CUNTY FUCKING RETARDED SOMETIMES. YOU FUCKING MONGOLOID CUNTY FAGGOTS.
>>28674594This is where the fundamental misunderstanding comes in. Why would you purchase a new car, eat the depreciation, and *not* drive it until the wheels fall off?
>>28674613You’re asking the wrong person, my car is almost old enough to have a license of its own.
>>28674589I have multiple times. It’s doable if you can get by without a car for a day or two while parts come in, but even on a civic or Corolla shit’s going to break from being 20 years old.
>>28670278No, you want an old car
>>28670278Why? New cars are shit.
>>28670278i was the exact same and it came true. this is my first car and im older than 25 but everyone says i look 24. my life begins now im going to go fuck bitches in the back seat and party and travel
>>28670382Obvious b8 is obvious but I'll bite - what cool features does a gay nucar have versus an old car?
>>28670543His point is that those are basic wires all cars have and you're too retarded to understand it
>>28670632What is your IQ?
>>28675313power lockspower windowspower sun shadesbackup or even panoramic camerasrear seat climate controlsrear seat seat heaters7,8,11,15+ speaker sound systempower adjust mirrorspowered seat and steering wheel adjust with memoryblind spot monitoring systemsautomatic rear gate hitchforward collision avoidancerear cross traffic alertradar cruise controlautomatic high beamsautomatic windshield wipersheated windshield wipers
>>28675431lollmaoI thought you would at least list a single really useful and necessary thing but you didn't. Also a third of these things already were in cars 30 years ago, if not even before that.
>>28675431Any car since like 2010 will have the biggest qol on that list (power locks, windows, cruise control)As to the rest cmon man, just summarize and put down>automatic prostate simulator
>farted in seatsno way jose
>>28675431but all of that is gay shit for women
>>28670278Well too bad.>>28670279I'm in the market for an old truck, gonna restore my first car... Hopefully.
>>28670545> Everyone is expected> A new carSeriously?
>>28670278just buy a new suburu and make sure you stay on top of transmission maintenance.
>>28670278An old used car means that I have money left over to do whatever I want with it.
>>28679980This, even if you were to take an old used car to a shop and say "make this piece of shit great again" it would still be less money than car payment+depreciation+full insurance+more expensive registration, plus an old car in great shape is a better experience than having the most expensive car your monthly budget will allow while not being able to maintain the motherfucker.
>>28670278>I WANT NEW CAR>meanwhile average youth in Japannever going to make it, bitchnigga OP
>>28677446Don't do this, buy a ford maverick xl AWD hybrid. Dealers often carry them in white as a fleet work truck model, they're thousands less than optioning one out. It's basically a better subaru with an engine that isn't stupid. The base model has everything you need.
>>286754311998 car:>power locksyes>power windowsonly on front (and they keep failing)>power sun shades?????>camerasdon't want em>rear seat climate controlsyeah there's a vent, you open or shut it to let in the AC>seat heaterswho cares>speaker sound systemdon't care>power adjust mirrorsyes>powered seatdon't want it>steering wheel adjustdon't need it>blind spot monitordon't want it>automatic reare gate hitch???>collision avoidancedon't want it (actively would avoid it)>rear cross traffic alertdon't want it (actively would avoid it)>radar cruise controldon't want it>automatic high beamsdon't want it>automatic wipersdon't want it>heated windshield wipersdon't wan't itHow come cruise control isn't standard? The 98 has it, but i drove a modern rental that didn;t. Also it beeped at me for some inscrutible reason.
>>28680109That's YouTube shit Anon, the nandatos are more cooked than Americans are at car ownership, I could easily show some rich ass snot nosed American kid driving brand new Corvettes, but that's not the norm.
>>28673308>well SHIT. does it pack a hemi?
>>28675431Bloat
>28670382bait post
>>28670767My proctologist drives a brown ford probe
>>28671322Doctors drive decade old camrys and hyundais. The nurses are the ones that show up in ML350shttps://youtu.be/TJhFAwFv-O0
>>28675431My M5 has all that shit except radar cruise. It's mostly all useless at best, and annoying at worst. Mostly.
>>28680761>professional abuse prober>brown probeseems legit
>>28683654>abuseanus>>28680781
>new car €60k>old used car 100k km €30k>old old used car 200k km €20k
>>28683772What the hell are you looking at Anon, RWD sports cars? those things never are good used cars, , there is no way you need to spend 20,000 eurodollars to get an old car with some miles on it if it's a sensible FWD car of which there are like 6 million around.
>>28683777i sneed a comfortable ride 4wd with more ground clearance and less noise than a toyota auris>oh sweet gravel road>dusty and vacant for me>broken is my back
>>28675445>>28675449>>28676396>>28680195>>28680316>what cool new features?>[list of features]>cars already had those and also I don’t want them and also you’re gaysour grapes
>>28683780Well shit Anon, 4WD SUVs are kinda in the realm as RWD sports cars when it comes to holding dummy amounts of value because people want them, if you're not wanting to spend a lot of money, you're not gonna be driving a 4WD SUV, either that or just pay it, take care of the thing and have something yourself that has a good residual value.
>>28683790i guess, but an SUV is a womans carbeen looking at V90 CC or A6 allroadthinking of just buying an allroad, 100k km, €35k, and let the car dealer and insurance company rob me dry
>Buy older car from non rusty state>Finance new engine and drivetrainHow had of an idea is this if I don't plan on selling?
>>28670278kit car with a crate engine you're welcome
>>28683798>How hadI assume you mean bad? Anyways all cars are expensive it's always been a pick your poison situation. Make payments on a new car or fix things on an old car until it's restored they both have you paying over a period of time.
>>28671152>hehe some billionaire out there has a 30 year old shitbox toyota therefore i'm just like this billionaire!holy cope
>>28684054No ones saying richfags don't have nice cars, but you shouldn't really be spending an obscene amount of money on cars unless you're a richfag, more people than ever are struggling due to their fucking car payment, it just is what it is.
>>28683781It'd be sour grapes if I were stuck driving my shitmobile, but I'm not. It's reliable, it's rwd with lsd, good handling, physical controls for everything, cable throttle, hydraulic steering, good suspension, and it tows. The only thing a new car does significantly better is fuel economy.Meanwhile the new car will have obnoxious safety features, will have a cheapola touch-screen, and I don't trust computerised systems to last.That's even if I bought a very high end new car, which I would need to if I want to match or beat the driving quality that my old beater has. 95% of new cars are simply worse at this.Also, I do have a new vehicle. My motorcycle is a 2020. I've also got an old 2003 motorcycle, with carbs, no fuel gauge and no ABS. I prefer the new bike's tech, but only because of the ABS. The fuel gauge sucks so much ass I'd give it and the EFI up to have a reserve tank back.
>>28670528>seat belt sensorusecase? 99 percent of people would turn that off if they knew how
>>28671812>>28674996maybe i got lucky but i dailied and hooned my 89 cressida for two years putting the same mileage the average joe clocks up in almost five years and it never gave me any trouble aside from being thirstier than usual on oil. but that was because i was redlining it at least once a week lol
>>28684995Usecase is you forgot to put on your seatbelt. Or are you one of those people who don't believe in using seatbelts because you're the main character and accidents don't happen to you?
>>28683798You obviously shouldn't do this if you have to finance the parts.
>>28685859>you're the main character and accidents don't happen to you?Kek this is what people who don't think HOLD ON isn't funny need to understand, it's more than just a stupid crash, it's boomer hubris.
>>28685859I just want to be able to check the mail without my car cunting at me nonstop for the half mile down the lane to the mailbox. >ding>ding>ding dingShut the fuck up. It’s a gravel lane, I’m driving 10 mph.safety mom faggotry needs to stop.
>>28685859>>28685866i mean the times that i forgot to put on my seat belt it was when i noticed i had a lot more freedom of movement. it's kinda hard to not notice the shoulder belt pulling you backfortunately for me it's just an unconscious habit to put it on.
>>28685859I'm my main character and even I wear a seatbelt because movies have taught me that if someone ever tries to make an escape by jumping into the passenger seat and points a weapon at me I can get up to speed and slam on the brakes and they'll go through the windshield and then I can run them over
Complete newfag here. Am I really that stupid for wanting a new car?I wanted to plan for the future and get something that can last as long as possible but as far as I can tell I'm just gonna get fucked no matter what I do. I don't know how long newer cars will actually last in the age of planned obsolescence, 3-4 year old used cars seem like they're only slightly cheaper, and I'm willing to learn how to wrench if I found a good older car but I still don't know what the fuck I even wantThe money's not really my concern, but I don't want to waste money if I could find a smarter option
>>28685947Yeah it's a trap, only buy new if it's something so exotic only dealer support is your optionScotty Kilmer may be king of the clickbait but he is a wellspring of knowledge when it comes to buying usedIf you want something fun or flashy get a motorcycle, chicks are into Euro 125cc scooters (be sure it has seating for two) seriously, they're programmed to dig scooter bois
>>28675431>power locksfair>power windowsnot needed imo but nice>power sun shadesthis is the first time ive heard of this, sounds stupid>backup or even panoramic camerasnot needed but nice, not a deal breaker either way>rear seat climate controlspeople in the rear seat can deal with my settings>rear seat seat heatersseat heaters/warmers are dumb AF and I will not change my opinion on them>7,8,11,15+ speaker sound systemfair>power adjust mirrorsfair>powered seat and steering wheel adjust with memorymemory? do we really need all this? >blind spot monitoring systemssurely you can lean forward to see the blind spot in the mirror?>automatic rear gate hitchmost cars dont need to drag a trailer, when was the last time any of you needed to, that dont have a truck for that purpose? >forward collision avoidancekeep your eyes on the road moron>rear cross traffic alertkeep your eyes open, back out slowly, dont be stupid?>radar cruise controlcruise control is something I cant trust, much less with radar>automatic high beamsI hate these with a passion, learn to change the high beams yourself>automatic windshield wipershalf the time they dont work, go back to 6 speed wipers>heated windshield wipersjust use defrost and preheat the car in this instance
>>28670278I got a new car this year and I want an old car again.Really hate the touchscreens, cars really need to go pack to the 3 knob aircon.On the plus side, cooled seats and 360 cameras are really nice.
>>28685859>>28686186My new Z has neither of these issuesSurely there are other non-cucked new cars?
>>28670278My car is 23 years old. and everything on it just fucking werks. I've driven 85 on some pretty rough and remote side roads, and not even my circa 2003 audio system hitched, ever, while playing my CD that includes this, nor anything else. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSZtpMGYUg4&list=PLr0MsaDpKsY8Kvtts9mI6h98S14u7Q807&index=22
>>28686265*I suppose I kind of cheated. Adjusted for inflation it cost about 80K in 2035 dollars, but I got it for a mere 7k about 8 years ago, with 28k miles on it. I was in a hurry, but knew the value of what I saw the minute I got into it. I wrote a check for it and drove off without the dealer questioning it.
>>28686309*Oops, 2025 dollars. Also, it's kind of fun to lose big trughs in your rear view mirror when on interstates paved level and smooth as a runway for 10 miles. My displacement is generally about the same, but my air resistance about 1/3rd. I can hardly feel the difference between 70 and 110 on roads like that.
>>28686172>powered seat and steering wheel adjust with memory>memory? do we really need all thisit's pretty nice if your wife drives the car sometimes. she gets in, presses one button, seats in her position. you get in, press another, goes back to the way you like it.
>>28686378Didn't think of it that way, being the kiss-less touch-less virgin I am.Still it could probably be a van or SUV only thing where is it more needed. Or like a $10 addon.
>>28686378>he lets his wife drive his cari bet you let her use your pc too you sick fuck
>>28673377This. I keep my trucks for 12+ years so having a nice solid vehicle that will last me a long time that I will enjoy is worth the money and depreciation doesn't effect me as much. I still look at the truck I bought 2 years ago when I walk away from it and I'm very happy with it even though it costed me a good amount of money.
>>28685947Buy one with 15k miles that's a year or 2 old which eats the bulk of initial deprecation but assures you it hasn't been beat up too bad. Change the fluids often and sleep easy knowing its been taken care of since basically new. Do your research into the drive train of the car you want for the year you are looking at there are plenty of good cars still being made.
