I’ve driven nothing but manuals until recently and don’t see the preference for manual. On twisty back roads I’m just in 3rd most of the time and occasionally shit down to 2nd. Having an auto you can manually shift is hardly any less enjoyable than a manual. I could see if you had close gears, but most street cars don’t have that.>why don’t you go above 3rd?Because if you go fast on the straights you’re just gonna wind up stuck behind a normie going the speed limit.
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>>28672758I rarely use my brakes to the point that people pull beside me on the freeway and say my brake lights don't work
>>28672758ur gay lol
>>28672758Some people are too stupid to count past 6, so paddle shift transmissions with 7 or more gears scare themThere's no other logical reason
>>28672758Skill issue
>>28672761>>28672764>>28672772>>28672780>>28672781>>28672784Why do you have the urge to give your car a handjob every time you drive it?
>>28672758Its losers trying to feel superior.
>>28672788XDDDDDDDD
>>28672758Some automatics are slushy. A direct connection is just better.A manual is better than a DCT for street driving because you know from a touch what gear you’re in. On the track where you’re always on it and always shifting so it’s on your mind what gear you’re in a DCT is fine if you’re going for lap times. But on the street where you might’ve put it in 4th a couple miles back, it’s nice that just a touch tells you you’re not in 3rd.
I enjoy it.
>>28672829What the fuck are you talking about, you can tell what gear you’re in by the engine speedModern autos are great. I would love to swap an 8hp or dct box into my Japanese shitbox.
OP, this >>28672835 is the only correct answer. If you like it use it, if you don't, don't. No need waste your time pondering useless questions
>>28672874Some of us have smooth i6’s with low-end torque and without nigger exhausts, and with the windows down it’s not obvious what gear you’re in.
If I gotta explain it to you, then you wouldn't get it.>>28672789Yeah I agree those automatic plebs are pretty pathetic trying to make people believe they're anything close to the fun a manual transmission is (let alone ease to repair and cost effective servicing)
>>28672829You can tell what gear you're in just by listening..
i got stuck in a rut on a muddy road once and managed to rock back and forth by playing with the clutch and gas and eventually break free. wouldn't have been possible with an auto. if your battery is dead you can roll start. way easier to service and parts are cheaper (yes I've done it). if you drive on hilly roads engine braking will save your brakes.
>>28672788There's the gay projection. It always shows up in these threads
I'm 35 Ive earned the right to drive automatic.
>>28673071>dead at 35So sad.
>>28673071I'm 36 and still obsessed with going bam-bam-bam on the rev limiter in ultralights (miatas). I'm sorry you've convinced yourself to become boring.If you said you preferred it that would be another thing, but you claimed to be "too old."
>>28672788Because it's a v8 and a manual sounds better
>>28673134basedI'm turning 32 soon and feel the same4 out of 4 cars I've owned have all been manual and I have no desire to ever get something that's not
>>28673134I already did all that shit when I was a kid, I literally sold a Miata a couple years ago. Now I got a free Honda pilot and I'm loving it
>>28673141Yeah I'm on my 6th manual, about to be on my 7th. I couldn't imagine willingly driving auto.
>>28673143To me, sex got old, but driving manuals like a fucking degenerate never has. It's the spice of life, the commute is the best part of the day.
>>28673149Yea I understand if you gotta commute, I'm on gibs so in just kick back livin life with my automatic I've owned a crx si, and Miata in manual. If I get a manual next it has to be v8. I just want a v8 now period
>>28672764You are SO close to enlightenment, it's maddening.
>>28672758Poor people need to attach their egos onto something or else they'll kill themselves. By the time they have a semblance of money they can't let go of their "preference" of using poor cars so they have to mask it with some excuse like road feel or being connected to the car. Typical gay shit
>>28672758it's a superiority complex. faggots say they love manuals but apparently never fucking buy them, as evident by them rotting on dealership lots and manufacturers eventually giving up entirely. It's the boomer and tough-guy mentality of bragging about some esoteric skill they had that invariably proves that they had a harder life than you, or that they're smarter or more sophisticated than you. but the numbers don't lie, and these faggots never actually showed up and purchased any of their beloved manual cars.One could liken manual fags to linux users. A very, very loud minority.
>>28672758>>28672789Pretty much this. If you're a "car guy" you already have no interesting personality and people think you're weird.So instead of getting a real personality you double down on it by also making driving a manuel a part of your personality (applies to amerimutts only). If you're a failure in life by every real metric, at least you can think about how your car's transmission is better than those "npc car"s transmission
>>28673201>Poor peoplenot so much poor people, but incels. If youre like some mystery meat amerimutt, never talked to a woman, don't have a good career, why not have some superiority complex about some shit that no one cares about like driving a manuel car? >inb4 projectiongo back to plebbit
>>28673215>we made a manual car>only $69,999! With a DYNAMIC 2.0 liter 4 cylinder delivering an amazing 190 bhp (totally not just used because we need to break even on the tooling for this minivan engine)!>see look nobody wants manuals anymore
>>28672758you fucked up buying a cuckbox in manual lol
>>28673149i regret selling my manual. next car will be a manual v8. everyone says manuals suck in traffic but personally i didnt find it any worse than an auto
>>28673350And yet the same car with the auto sells perfectly fine. Why is that?
>>28673350>>28672758See? Manualniggers would prefer to make up obviously false scenarios to defend their preference than realize that they lost the "fun" and "performance" fights multiple decades ago
>>28673360because it's several grand cheaper since they also took that gearbox from the minivan
>>28673364Stop being retarded. Show one (1) car where the auto version is cheaper for the same trim lmao. You can't.
>>28673350manual cars didn't disappear overnight. it was nearly 2 decades of rapidly declining sales
>>28673365i was gonna bring up the supra but turns out that's just dealer cuntery
I feel so dumb and full of dread right now because something bad could've happened to me today. I got an old manual car yesterday. First time ever driving a car with a stick, but I've rode motorcycles in the past, so I know how manual works. I was completely fine driving yesterday, did everything right and didn't stall the engine. That brings us to today...>got into my car>held down the clutch and fired up the engine>I let my foot off the clutch absentmindedly, my brain thought I was starting up an Automatic car and that I was still in "Park" (in actuality, I was in 1st gear.)>The car jumped forward and stalledFORTUNATELY, VERY FORTUNATELY, I was parked on the street and nobody was in front of me. I feel so fucking stupid and that dread I feel is the realization that if my neighbor were home I would've just plowed into his car. He would've parked directly in front of me. That could have been a costly mistake and I would've been so embarrassed.Sorry, I just wanted to get that off of my chest. I won't let that happen ever again.
>>28672788So insecure AND closet faggot, got it.
>>28672788Because I love my car
I like manuals because they are smooth and chill as long as you play the part. There are no surprise behaviors from gearbox. And you will always be in the right gear for the corner in advance not somewhere later the down the line so upsetting the car's balance is less of an issue when you don't have a lot of grip. Automatics can't predict what's ahead but only react to whatever is going on at the moment, and sometimes they get things wrong. Shift times don't matter to me.
>>28675354every automatic transmission has a manual mode whether it wants to or notif the car is doing something unexpected you have a skill issue
>>28672758Different people like different things.You don't need to understand why.
>>28675359That's not good enough with how abrupt it can be, and neither is forcing behaviors with gas pedal. Whenever there's a need to force an upshift with higher revs it ruins the vibe for me. So keep your autotragic, more of those for you. Also, funny how you claim a skill issue for a device meant to eliminate human factor. Though yes, some older autos need some actual know-how to get what you want out of them.
>>28675373>That's not good enough with how abrupt it can beit's not abrupt if you are personally activating it, you very quickly learn the timing.it's not abrupt if the transmission is specifically designed for such operation like a zf8 or 9.>muh vibesbro your tampon?> funny how you claim a skill issue for a device meant to eliminate human factorit doesn't eliminate human factor because as you said, an automatic gearbox cannot actually predict what is going on 100 feet down the road, but the human that is legally required to be present behind the wheel in the car can. it's a skill issue because you can adapt for this. it sucks to "paddle shift" a column mounted auto shifter with the stupid buttons on the end of the stalk like in some GM vans and trucks but it can and should be done.shifting gears is slightly different in process and feel than a traditional manual transmission, sure, but you still need to physically drive the car and select what gears to be in manually even then. what happens after the power leaves the gearbox is exactly the same principle. provided the gearbox is not overly slushy and the thing isn't fighting you about gear selection (t. ford) it's all good.
Hey anon, it's okay to not value something someone else values. I like driving stick and the roads I drive on have me shifting between 2-4 very often. If you find no difference in joy between driving an auto and stick, then picking an auto is perfectly acceptable.
>>28675396there is functionally no difference as soon as the driveshaft starts turningany difference in joy is purely the driver's skill in operating the machine
I like manual because it's fun to driveSimilarly I like playing fighting games on stickI guess I like sticks in general
>>28673071Bought my first autobox at 40 and I ain't going back.I actually feel like retard for torturing my self with manual in stop and go traffic for 10 years and not switching earlier.
>>28672968>If I gotta explain it to you, then you wouldn't get it.Pretty much this. You gotta drive the car right in order to understand and that doesn't necessarily mean aggressively.>>28673071I'm 64 and have the itch for a manual again, but not the itch to spend the money unfortunately.
>>28672758Probably because you're on the spectrum. Good luck with that. I'm gonna keep driving manual because it's fun as fuck and part of the essence of enjoying a drive with soul.
>>28675390>muh vibesYes, they matter as I treat my car as something for my pleasure and not just a commuter. In fact, I commute on my bicycle way more than by car. So, you care about efficient operation? Here's exactly a vehicle for you LMAO, seems like you came to the wrong board.
>>28675598only spectrum people like manuels though
>>28672758You have incredibly bad takes OP and you're almost certainly lying. Show me these roads where you're in 3rd most of the time.
>>286758283rd in a Z3 3.0i is good from 15-90, and in the power band from 40-90, which is a good speed range for any twisty 25mph road.
>>28675870>z3Sorry i didn't realize you were gay. If you had any common sense, or were capable of taking advice, or understood what is and what isn't appropriate you wouldn't be a fucking faggot would you.
>>28675702>I commute on my bicycleopinion discarded
Why do Americans idolise and overcomplicate this so much? Every single video of them driving a manual car is torture. You shouldn’t drive them, because none of you can drive at even a basic level>gets in>revs it to the moon>dumps clutch>smashes it into gear>the car lurches forward >red lines it before 2nd>stomps on the clutch whilst the accelerator is still down>grenades the driveline going into 2nd gear heh I guess autoKEKtics wouldn’t get how BASED this is and how much more RELIABLE this is than using an autoTRAGIC
>>28675919LMAO I hope you don't look up burger driving unsynced gearboxes, it hurts to see them thinking the grinding noises are normal
>>28675919that's not the annoying partthe annoying part is how they'll rant on and on in the video about how manuals are so much better and sovlful and #savethemanuals or whatever faggot shit, all while driving them completely retardedly>t. american who literally owns a manuel car and finds absolutely nothing special about it
Driving a manual made sense to me as soon as I realized it's "analog," like using the joystick and triggers on a video game controller. If you give that hint to a gamer, he'll figure it out really quickly.
>>28675828Pretty much any county road where I live. They rarely have curves sharp enough to go below 50mph and I don’t go fast on the straights because then you just get stuck behind some normie doing the speed limit.
>>28672758Built in theft deterrent. End Thread.
>>28672758It's more control of the car making driving more engaging. Would you think it'd make driving more fun if you had a car that would brake or throttle for you?
>>28672761FPBP
I just don't feel comfortable having to trust an automaton to do shifting for me.
>>28677130yet you trust the automaton under the hood to turn flammable liquid into noise and tire smoke
Simple answer, a stick shift gives you the ability to control engine braking, something an auto doesn't and thus you can control the car to a much higher degree, especially around corners etc. Plus most auto's excluding modern double clutch units are frikkin dog slow to react. Also the ability to control engine rpm is critical during fast driving.
>>28677146I don’t think I’ve ever driven an auto you couldn’t chose the gear you wanted in manual mode.
>>28677146autos have manual mode retard
>>28679725Do you sincerely believe they're the same?
>>28679744no. the auto is better because it's faster and more precise. unless you can name a way it isn't.
>>28679751So you're saying you don't know how to operate a manual transmission but you have an opinion about them
>28672788>porn-sick shartocrat enters the thread
>>28679753> don't know howof course i know how. Billions of 87 IQ africans and indians know how as wellIts not a special skill, amerishart. you have to choose the one that is objectively better
>>28679839>being this ass-devastated that some people prefer having more control over their vehicle
>can you explain your reasoning?>Why do you want me to explain? Why do you care that much? Why are you so triggered at my personal preferences?!just another day of interacting with amerilards
>>28672758>>28672788>>28672789>>28673247these guys have never actually drove a manual
>>28673063>if your battery is dead you can roll startSame if your starter is dead. This has saved me multiple times over the years. Carry tow straps and it's even easier.
>>28673063Hadn't thought much of it but rocking back and forth in mud and the rolling start are both features I have needed LMAO. And I engine brake all the time even on flat ground, fuck the wear, it's a shitbox.
>>28679858>more vehicle control>simpler, cheaper to repair/replace>much higher resale value>more fun & engaging (can also do stuff like donuts & drifting)>drawbacks: women & fags can't drive it, may suck in traffic if you have a really heavy clutch>push/pull starting gets your car moving even if the battery & starter are totally dead, vs stranding you>thieves don't know how to steal it (literally)>no filters to replace (cheaper operating costs)>doesn't overheat as readily as an automatic>gives you feedback on the wear of your parts, so it's not a surprise when the clutch starts failing or the fluid needs to be changed>can't be killed by the CIA a la Michael Hastings (they have to go for the more obvious car bomb route like with Brian Kemp's future son-in-law)
>>28672758It's more fun and there have been a couple emergency situations, one where I was stuck and one where I was descending a very large hill and my brakes started to fade that having a 5spd has saved my ass. As far as I can tell, auto has no actual benefits besides I get to be lazy, but I'm already sitting in a damn chair I can manage to move my left leg and my arm sometimes I think
>>28675114Bro I do that like once every few months I've been driving manual for over 10 years. With the civic it wasn't an issue but the new 86 fucking jumps haha. Ive started giving the knob a little wiggle every time I hop in.
