I just want a fun coupe with a manual transmission, a physical handbrake, physical AC buttons, and no start-stop in the current year +10, but I also don’t want to suck cocks. What to do?
If you see a car and think COCK, that's on you pal.
you should try an MG4 instead
>miata lustThis nigga got the slip-n-slide bussy
>>28676696>Blocks your driveway
It's just the most-fun car.If you're not gay, it's not gay.Shrimple as that.
>>28676695you're so close to the right answer anonthe gr86 is also an option if you NEED a slow car
>>28676715That car is sex. Also weren’t people blowing engines on GR86/BRZs though?
>>28676695you're gay if you care what other people think about it
>>28676695No. You're gay because you're worried the car you pick makes you gay.
>>28676721It's just an oil starvation issue, and aftermarket solutions are a few hundred bucks.But yeah, if you want all the stuff in the OP then the Z, Miata, or BRZ/86 are your only new options
>>28676695>physical handbrakeWhy do ppl care about this? I've never seen anyone pull a handbrake turn anywhere. I ackthually drive my Moostang like a reckless degenerate N losing traction everywhere on shitty all-seasons, but I never see anyone else being a Real Driver™ like me. Everyone's too busy being a prissy faggot driving properly, or at most just being a stoplight-to-stoplight retard gunning it then slamming the brakes.I want to see Real Men™ do Real Driving™ in traffic.
>>28676744because having an electronic button is retarded and causes cars to roll away when the driver thinks it's on but the electrics said no for whatever reasonit's costcutting but the manufacturers try to spin the electric BS as luxury anyway
>>28676695A common misconception is that the miata is gay. it's just convertibles that are gay.The RF is a fine car.
>>28676695If you don't care about straight-line speed the Miata is hands down the best value in the new car market. Otherwise you should look at this car >>28676715 because they're supposedly available for very cheap nowadays since Nissan is desperate to move inventory.If you're really insecure about looking like a fag and you don't mind an older car with some miles on it then look for a decent S2K. It's very similar to the ND Miata but with more power and less mid-range torque. aesthetically, I prefer the ND exterior but the S2K interior.
>>28676760The fact that you have to pull up on a button to engage the brake is so fucking stupid. Why not make it a press on and press off like every other button in the car? I test drove a manual that had one and the car nearly rolled out of the parking spot.
>>28676760>>28676830You're both fucking retarded.
>>28676725This.>>28676760>>28676830This is literally a skill issue. I have been driving longer than the two of you have been alive. I have never once misjudged whether an electric break was engaged or not. I've also never had a car roll away no matter the type. You have to be extra fucking stupid to have that happen.I have a difficult time believing either of you two morons ever learned to drive manual if you can't keep track of pushing a fucking button.Regardless, while I do think handbrakes were kind of fun, I don't particularly miss them.
>>28676695>am i gayyes>if i want to buy a miatano
>>28676695You're gay because you mentioned sucking dick on a car forum unprompted. Miatas rock though
>>28676695Stop giving a shit about what literal niggers and spiritual niggers think. I drive a Miata. All of my friends like it. All the women I've taken out in it like it. Random people I encounter like it. Nobody who thinks my car is gay is willing to say so to my face so it's a non-issue.>>28676744Because it's fucking stupid. There is literally zero reason to replace a mechanical linkage with it. It doesn't make the car easier to drive, safer, comfier, more fuel efficient, faster, or anything else.
>>28676695buying a Mini, an EV or a Beetle makes you gay, getting an ND isn't
>live in yurop>want a new, fun car>MX-5 is one of the few fun cars they still sell here>don't need lots of space anyway since no family>okay fine I guess I'll get one>2L engine not sold in yurop anymore due to emissions bullshitI hate it here.
>>28676884The whole point is that theyre a purely mechical brake so if your brakes fail you can yank it. Just admit youre an old weakling who cant pull the little brake. The button activated ones almost never get used and if they are reguarly used they fail prematurely. Meanwhile my 20 year old shitbox as never had the handbrake serviced and it still works good as new.
>>28676715Literally this>>28676695Save like $10k more and get a Z
>>28676768Convertibles are fun, if that makes me gay then so be it.Cruising down some rural 2 lane on a sunny day is bliss.
>>28676715>>28677313>Just buy an over priced piece of shit with multiple sales stop orders due to paint and transmission issues from a company that is on the brink of bankruptcyLiterally just buy a Supra
>>28677986noooo, you need to buy real JDM!!!! Supra is a BMW I dont care if Nissan is going out of business I want REAL JDM
>>28676695I thought the ND2 had stop/start though?Honestly, who gives a fuck what other people think? It's your life and your money. If you wanna have a fun car, go for it. Anyone who talks shit, flip em the bird and move on.
>>28676744When I'm ripping handbrake turns it's when there's nobody around. People are nerds and narcs and everyone has a phone in their hands to call the 5-0 or take incriminating pics
>>28677986>paint who the fuck cares nigga>transmissionkek @ even considering the auto
>>28676695It starts small, like buying a miata. Two weeks later you're at the local park getting pozzed by tyrone
>>286772991.5L is the engine the car was designed for. The 2.0 is the fat specification.
>>28677299>2L engine in a fucking miataruins the balancing of the car, a lot of owners can confirm this, but won't because buyers remorse lmao.get the 1.5L
>>28678023>>28678035This sounds like cope, how much heavier is the 2L?
>>28677993>why do you care about the paint on a $43,000 car goy?Also, the manual transmission had a sale stop too. How embarrassing.
>>28678067The ND miat tranny was trash as well. Why can't modern companies make reliable manual trannys anymore? I guess the demand isn't adequate for appropriate investment
>>28678067>2022 Stop embarrassing yourselfIt's 3 years later and whatever issues there were have been solvedYou sound like some sort of jeet AI that has an auto generated response for each type of car kek Use some fuckin critical thinking
>>28678071Modern auto cuntpanies don't make reliable auto trannies either (the only real exception being the ZF8, which isn't thecknickally made by an auto cuntpany).The Ford/GM 10-speeds have had class action lawsuits, major issues, still not fixed. The GM 8-speeds had known issues too that were also a class action lawsuit (i.e. Camaros with the 8-speed). Toyota is having tranny issues in they'are shit these days too.They are literally min-maxing the profit by makign everything last just up to warranty end. After that they don't give a fuck about you, in fact they make more money if your shit broke so you have to buy new parts/cars from them.They are literally disincentivized to make something that will last. Every incentive is for them to make it as shitty as possible and make warranty service as hard to claim as possible (no free rental cars, etc.)
>>2867806625kg/55lbs.You do feel it in the corners, especially during turn in.
>>28676695What do car choice and sexuality have to do with each other?
>>28678072>I-it was just the auto transmissions>ok it was the manual transmissions too but that was 3 years agoGoal posts moved yet again. Insane cope. It’s your money, buy a Z if you wanna waste it.
>>28677299>>2L engine not sold in yurop anymore due to emissions bullshitImagine buying new.
>>28678129>he wants sloppy seconds
>>28678134>he wants to eat depreciation on the banks car
>>28678144If you care about depreciation on a Miata you shouldn't be buying one.
Skill issue desu I bought my 2021 new and it's paid off and still worth 20ish, at no point was I upside down on it
>>28676709>rear ends youNothing personel bitch
>>28676695>Am I gay Absolutely >if I want to buy a Miata?That has nothing to do with the previous observation
>>28677299There are lots of better fun cars you can buy in yurope but you're too much of a weeb and pseudo auto enthusiast to care.
>>28678846Oh yeah? NEW fun cars? That don't cost an arm and a leg? Name them.
>>28678941If you can't find fun cars with a budget of 40k you're retarded and only proving my statement further.
>>28678950I accept your concession.
>>28676695I'm gay and want to buy a Miata. Hope this helps !
>>28676695>wants a miata>is OPbro, you have 2 strikes against you. it's not looking good.
>>28678843>That has nothing to do with the previous observationcorrect, but it's also an indicator of homosexual behavior.
>>28676695S550 mustang pre 2018
>>28678023>>28678035>>28678091Holy cope yurotards are on a whole different level. >it's actually good daddy government is fucking us up the ass, the 130 hp engine is actually the desirable one, please bust in me daddy EU!
>>28676695>Am I gay if I want to buy a Miata?No.Your concerns of other people's opinions do make you gay though.
>>28678846while there are other fun cars in the same price range, not many of them are better than a miata (excluding used cars)
>>28678091I've taken shits heavier than that
>>28680068A miata with the 1.5 is not a fun car. It's an eco city car.>but muh toegayYou can't go uphill
>>28678091Not true at all. Own a 2.0 and rented a 1.5 while I was visiting Europe. Only notable difference was lack of acceleration and higher end speed in the 1.5, handling felt identical even in tight winding turns. You'd notice a much larger difference with new tires than the different engines
