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We all know the many brands over the years have hit the shitter but what brands have actually improved and are way better now than their past? I think Kia is an obvious answer, used to be infamous shitbuckets, now everyone with a Kia Niro consider it one of the most reliable cars they've ever owned. Their EVs also fare generally better than the competition.
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Fiat, unironically.
Then they became shit again.
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>>28686899
>one of the most reliable cars they've ever owned
>Just wait, after over a half century of failure, THIS one will last more than 5 years.
>Oops, it didn't. But this next model it totally different than the past several decades of cars, super swear!
>I wouldn't lie 50 years in a row and just keep on lying, now would I?
rinse wash repeat, and never making a reliable car. Just korean things.
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>>28686906
Wagon is my thing. Remember when cars actually had usable windows.
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KDM is the new JDM.
JDM is dead.
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>>28686899

i have a 2012 kia optima with 181k on the clock. it seems to run fine, but leaks oil from valve cover gasket, perhaps other places as well. i just check the oil every day, and try not to think about it too much. also, i ignored all of the recall notices.
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>>28687803
Valve cover gaskets take like 15 minutes to do and cost $30 from the dealer.
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>>28686899
I don't trust Kia but I've found myself in a position where, on paper, it's the best option for me.
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>>28688072
>I don't trust Kia but I've found myself in a position where, on paper, it's the best option for me.
Does that paper set itself on fire? If not, that paper isn't from kia.



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