Why is lane filtering illegal in most of the US and Canada?
>>28690961Because it's cheating. You don't get to butt in line just because you have a different type of vehicle.
>>28690961>Why is lane filtering illegal in most of the US and Canada?Motorcycles aren't as common so it's just not been made legal, that's all.Also, this time period would be a very poor time to institute lane filtering legalization, too many squids and brownoids who will just wreck while filtering at 70+ mph speed delta.
>>28690973Lardass is complaining that he doesn't get to use the skinny discount entrance. Crabs in a bucket mentality.
>>28690973Petty. We are just using a part of a road that is otherwise unused. Bikes can overheat, the rider too. Why would you not want to make the road more efficient
>>28690973do you trip people that are trying to walk past you at the mall?
>>28690961real question is why the fuck is it legal it just seems like a good way to get ran overpeople aren't looking over their shoulder in traffic
>>28690961One of those laws where it's not worth the hassle of getting changed cuz there's very few riders out there.
>>28691019mmmm crabs
>>28690961It incentivizes motorcycles as a practical form of transportation. This would increase the sales of practical bikes (the Japanese ones) at the cost of car/truck sales.
>>28691038It doesn't seem like a bad idea when traffic is at a stop or very slow (rush hour traffic)
>>28690973This is seriously the moral lens through which corn syrup swilling megafat functionally illiterate middle Americans view public order.>why should that asshole get a seat at this restaurant before I do just because he called ahead and made a reservation>why should i have to pay more for my luggage on this airplane just because my bags are more than 50 lb>why can't my kid get an award at school even if her grades are bad
>>28690961cuz americans r dumb
>>28690973But it's not butting in line. It's letting the people with the ability to not be stuck in traffic do so. Do you know what happens when you take a motorcycle that's ahead of you in traffic and let it go away? It makes it so that there's less traffic in front of you. Filtering and lane splitting let everyone, including you, get out of traffic faster.
>>28690961I didn't know those late 90s Katanas looked so FAT from the front.
>>28690961The real answer is because American bike riders are still American and therefore can't help but ruin everything. Filtering in theory is a great idea because it helps ease congestion but damn Americans think "oh boy i can fly between two cars at 95mph and it's YOUR fault if you hit me even though I was still 600 ft behind you when you checked your mirrors and there's no possible way you could have seen me coming"
>>28691500The real answer is blacks and browns ruin everything.
>>28690973hahahahaha what the actual fuck? this has to be bait
>>28690961Americans are bad drivers and Canucks are cucks.
>>28691039Texas explicitly made it illegal in 2023. Oklahoma struck down a bill legalizing it in 2023 too. New Mexico not only kept it on the books, they then banned lane splitting for two motorcycles back in 2021.Most folk here don't believe motorcyclists should be on the road. I cannot find it, but a rider's video went viral where a woman cut to sharply on her left turn, didn't see a guy on a motorcycle in the center turn lane, hit him at relatively low speed, and then instead of apologizing when she got out, told him that maybe he shouldn't be out there on a motorcycle in the first place.
>>28690961main bike advantage is that yo can swerve through traffic and waste less time in traffic jamsthat is unacceptable for car industry so automakers make sure that you cannot experience profits of biking and you buy car instead
>>28690961I don’t know but I will say that the argument that it’s dangerous is BS because a lot of bikers get hit and subsequently paralyzed when they get rear-ended sitting in traffic.
Like driving on the beach it's 3rd world behavior
>>28690961In an ideal world it'd be great, but in the real world this would cause LOTS of accidents, that's why legislators aren't fond of the idea.Motorbikes can be hard to notice in a rear view mirror, especially under adverse conditions in a huge traffic jam. It's harder to gauge their distance and speed at a glance too. When riding past thousands of cars, the odds are stacking up rapidly that one of those drivers didn't look well enough or took too long from checking to moving. Still, it would be pretty safe if bikers kept low enough of a speed that they'd be in view of the car drivers for a few seconds before passing them, and if they could stop if someone didn't spot them. But let's just be honest here, most bikers won't filter at <10mph. No matter where you set the limit, at least half of them are going to blast through the gaps at a speed that'll ensure their utter obliteration if someone moves. That also leads to them being visible a mere second before impact, at which point it's too late.Politicians don't want more road deaths because of the social and economical impact, and because they don't want the justice system to spend manhours on the question of whether or not a driver could see the bike approach in time.Filtering is simply too prone to having small errors cause huge accidents.
It's illegal because people suck at everything, particularly keeping track of retards in two wheeled vehicles or not driving a two wheeled vehicles like an asshole and the data more or less confirms this. making it legal just to shut a couple of bikers up would be stupid.
If the optimization goal here is ultimately less vehicles on the road, less accidents, and more productivity from workers while in said vehicles, motorcycles are double un-good. You can seat 2 people at most meaning ride share will be functionally impossible, they will be even more difficult than a sedan or van to automate, and you cannot give them any type of screens or working surface, meaning they cannot do any of their work on the way into the office. So I'll just say the quiet part out loud: any laws that encourage motorcycle riding should be removed, and more laws phasing them out as legal transportation should be implemented. There probably isn't a critical mass of riders to pull legislative action anyway, so better sooner than later.
>>28691628>>28691631Californian riders can manage it just fine. Are you saying that your state's riders are less capable than America's punching bag?
>>28691639Except everything I see puts California up there with Texas and Florida for motorcycle collision incidents. Is being competitive with Florida Man really more capable?
>>28691653Per capita or total? Are you saying that there is no negligible increase per capita despite doing this "much more dangerous" form of traffic navigation?
>>28691661I'm saying that the accident rate (either metric) is comparable to drooling retards in Texas and Florida, but you were already aware of this and are now relying on pedantry to carry your spurious desire to go really fast between closely spaced moving vehicles.
>>28691704I want to do 15-30mph between stopped/barely moving traffic so I don't melt in summer. You also have to factor in that California has a much bigger sportbikes-in-canyons scene that also greatly contributes to the motorcycle accident rate.
>>28691653>CA, TX, FLI know /o/ likes to hammer on Latin Americans as the root cause for this, but the boring ass reason these 3 are at the top for accidents per capita, and places where riders die from speeding way more often like CO are not, is because of the year round riding season.
>>28691755Where the fuck are people even riding in TX?That place only has straight line highways. And I hear FL ain't too different.
>>28691836>That place only has straight line highways.The hill country down near Austin is attractive. DFW has breaks out to the south and west, twisty state highways and FM roads outside the metroplex, and the toll roads are damn near unregulated anarchy hell lanes. Houston has two national forests and the Gulf coast close by.None will compare to the Rockies or Appalacian mountains, but few places in this country do.
>>28691506Most people that I see on motorcycles are white or east asian
>>28691605>Most folk here don't believe motorcyclists should be on the roadIt's a self fulfilling prophecy. Drivers think that motorcyclists shouldn't be on the road, so there are less motorcyclists, so they don't look out for the motorcyclists around them. The stereotype also attracts idiots who want to be cool, affirming it in everyone else's minds. The cycle repeats.
>>28691636Autists should be the next class of people that get targeted. Feet first. Woodchipper. Enough is enough, no more dictation by people who don't even have all the mental framework like normal neurotypical people have. This is America, it's freedom or lead.
>>28691636>You can seat 2 people at mostThe space that one car takes up is the same amount of space 2 motorcycles can use. Cars and trucks are better if you want to haul anything from groceries to a trailer, but most cars on the road only have one or two people in them, so I can't see how motorcycles would be less efficient in that regard.>they will be even more difficult than a sedan or van to automateYeah can't argue with this>and you cannot give them any type of screens or working surface, meaning they cannot do any of their work on the way into the office.Vehicles should not have touch screens. We can recognize the danger of using a phone while driving, but a colorful distracting screen where you have to go through a dozen slides to turn on the A/C is fine? Your attention should be on the road as a driver.
>>28691941>>28691960I know your reading comprehension is likely quite poor, but his post is very, very obviously satirical.
>>28690973>cheating>over competitive mentality kicking in>seething over something completely irrelevant and frivolous Nigger mentality. Literally the type of guy who gets mad at young adults having good jobs. >inb4 most probably a boomer malding
if i couldn't filter i wouldn't ride a bike. i mean what's the point of riding a bike if you can't filter? that's literally the whole point of riding a bike.
>>28691964>You fell for itKek
>>28691964What do you mean satirical, he's completely right. Also we should phase out any vehicle that isn't a crossover, and make all vehicles hybrids or electric.
>>28691984But you're cutting the line
>>28690983quite the opposite, insurance lobby has been pushing hard to make it illegal in states where there were no laws against it. see also: texas
>>28691991>Merely pretending >>28692014See>>28691019
>>28692014i don't know what that means but yes there's usually a line between the lanes where i'm filtering
>>28690961>why
>>28692014That's what VIPs do. I'm more important than you because I ride a motorcycle. You're just cattle in a car.
>>28692042I know that motorcycle should have slowed down to filter safely, but even so, there is very little in life that raises my ire than people who try and merge into a much more rapidly moving lane from a standstill.
>>28692051>>28692042Biker's fault unironically. You see a blinker, you slow down.
>>28692112Don't know about that one, but I'm curious why he wasn't one lane over left. Fuck staying in the middle lane when the right lane is at a standstill.
>>28692026>""Merely pretending"" as a response to falling for obvious bait copypasta that literally swapped pedo for autistNgmi
>>28692134Bongland, he was in the correct lane.
>>28690973There is no line. We're going to different destinations.>>28692042There's no safety benefit or detriment to lane filtering. It makes the motorcyclist less likely to be rear-ended, but more likely to rear-end someone else.>>28692112Agreed. Bad lane positioning, going too fast, didn't recognise the signs when cars are likely to change lanes. And in this case the car was making it pretty clear, there's really no excuse.So motochads, what's the worst thing about lane filtering for you? I hate it when I have to dip my bike over to one side to get past a mirror, and then a car tries to "politely" move once I'm already past their mirror.I also hate how some lane markers are about 1cm thick here, which act like a rut when you ride over them and make it really hard to keep a straight line.And lastly, for any scooties ITT - don't just sit in between cars at the lights if someone else is filtering behind you. Move out in front, because otherwise we'll get trapped between the cars.
>>28690973>let's treat vehicles that are different the sameThat's literally communism
>>28692295I can't really complain about anyone except intentional blockers. There are some ignoramuses that just don't know where they are in their lane, that's a little annoying, but once one rider goes past them, they usually get with the program. The intentional blocker (in gridlock) is relatively easily gotten around just by going one lane over. Agreed on people not understanding that they need to pull into the crosswalk to the side if there is another rider behind them. We're doing a weird thing car drivers might not expect. It's a privilege, I cherish being able to do it at all. Luv me double white/double yellow line as a wider "lane" to be in.
>>28691122it's still a bad idea because a fart knocker might move towards the center line as he rolls to a stop.
>>28692295>for any scooties ITT - don't just sit in between cars at the lights if someone else is filtering behind you. Move out in front, because otherwise we'll get trapped between the cars.I ride a scooter and when filtering to the front of stationary traffic I always move in front of the lead car to take the lane early and avoid a drag race with the car. I'm letting that cager know that it's my lane now. But I always take off slightly before the light goes green so I'm about 10 or 20 metres ahead of them before they even think about taking off. When the adjacent light goes red there's about three seconds before our light goes green.The main thing that annoys me about filtering is boomers who have these huge mirrors on their 4X4 so they can see around a caravan that they're not towing. Also 4X4s in general. And Indians. I hate Indians so much it's unreal.
>>28690961motorists shouldn't be forced to check their mirror every 3 seconds because someone can't afford a car
>>28691636I know this is a satire post, but genuinely what's the point of a system if self driving cars? If you own the car, it's all of the disadvantages of driving and public transport. If you don't own the car, then it just seems like a really inefficient version of a bus or train.
>>28692787>can't afford a carMost bikers also have cars. Only having a car is a poorfag trait in reality
>>28691515You might be surprised. I've been flipped off, yelled at, and threatened when filtering. My own best friend, an otherwise intelligent person, told me it was "cutting in line" and wrong. I tried to get him to explain his position, and in the end it came down to "if I'm stuck in traffic you should be stuck in traffic."
>>28692778>When you smell an Indian from outside their carMakes me wish my helmet came with a gas mask.
>>28690961Because cagecucks are eating peanut butthurt and u jelly sandwiches. They can't deal with anyone who isn't cursed to be stuck behind other cagecucks, and everyone should artificially restrict themselves to the same constraints as cagecucks, without realizing they're mad at one less cagecuck blocking their way.
>>28692812I see cagers even try to squeeze me from passing on my bicycle, I just mount the kerb and roll on. Hater's gonna hate.
