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>only 50 more hp than the base model
>only 100lb lighter
Why the hype?
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>>28691330
Why is his head so low?
I don't understand how manlets and women can drive.
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>>28691335
Modern cars are designed that way for side impact reasons
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>>28691330
Riced out
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>it’s another episode of mutts only care about hp and weight
this is why you will never make a good car. stop trying to brute force everything
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Why has everyone become so delusional about performance. These cars are fucking spaceships. You're a fucking faggot who probably sits around a car park smoking a vape and won't even afford one of these in 15 years when it has 200k on the odo.

Modern cars, tyres and suspension are absurdly good and if anything most are too fast for most roads. It doesn't need a tune it doesn't need more hp or literally anything they are good enough from factory.
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>>28691458
>this is why you will never make a good car
correct
we make the best
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>>28691481
You couldn't have missed the point harder if you tried. It's crazy how bad people are these days at basic reading comprehension.
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>The car is produced at the BMW Group Plant in San Luis Potosí, Mexico
dios mío
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>>28691490
No you asked why the hype for 50hp and 100 pounds weight reduction. What more do you want you act like 50hp gain is nothing coming from a manufacturer because you're a delusional benchracer.
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>>28691488
Stop posting garbage
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>>28691330
A Lambo entry level has aluminum and a Lambo high level is carbon fiber.

BMW only makes cars on CLAR platform so they’re all commuters first and the M cars are ‘tuned’ versions. The CSL is bmw adding lightness to the model and also giving it more of the super car dna.

It’s not like a real GT4 with carbon fiber doors and all that. But it is an engineering achievement and a bean counting achievement that they are even allowed to sell it.
Are they an amazing value? Not directly. They do hold value very well and if you love M cars they’re the closest you’ll get to a bmw ‘supercar’.
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>>28691501
Okay, if you think you truly did comprehend the question, then answer it. Can you even do that, though? Do you even believe what you're saying?
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>>28691512
You get the response you get faggot
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>>28691516
As expected, he can't do it. Just addicted to arguing, not a real thought in his head.
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>>28691488
that’s an E series though
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>still weighs 3,770 lbs
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>>28691330
those are all significant improvements though?
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>>28691538
>>28691555
These things are still behind decade old alpha platform cars. They’re heavy because instead of making something good, they just cram a ton of technology into it as a bandaid for subpar handling. There is no reason for this 6 cylinder car to weigh as much as a supercharged Camaro lugging around 10 heat exchangers.


Europe just can’t make good handling cars anymore.
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The entire chassis is a whole different animal you retards
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>>28691906
can you name a lighter car with better lap times for the same or less money?
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Crazy that this ugly Mexican shitbox utterly rapes a base model 911 for half the cost.
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>>28692120
Yea, and that animal is a warthog.
>>28692128
C6, C7, or even just a basic camaro ss with cup 2Rs thrown on. itself even if it’s slightly heavier.
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>>28691488
Based Canadian muscle.
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>>28692149
Who would want to drive any of those? Poverty-spec GM interiors.
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>>28692149
all used. find something new
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>>28692174
>the goalpost moves
base model C8 with cup 2Rs thrown on.
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>>28692177
what if you put cup2rs on the m2
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>>28692193
The M2 CS (car in op image) already comes with them. Without it, it’s just slower than regular Camaros and boomer spec vettes.
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>>28692195
ok so to sum up what you're saying, in order to beat the package offered by the m2 you need a mid engine supercar on the world's best tires
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>>28691555
It's not $34000 worth of improvements though is the point.
It's also (almost) 100lbs lighter than a base M2 but it's still 300lbs heavier than the old M2 Comp. Also half of that weight comes from the carbon fiber roof (a $2600 option on a base M2) and you can easily get that much HP with a a tune. So what exactly are you getting for the extra $29400?
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>>28692199
Or just a C6Z, C7 grand sport, or a Camaro. But you already moved the goalpost.
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>>28692213
that's cool though that this is the best front engine car you can buy new for the price
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>>28692217
The GT500 mustang exist.
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>>28692222
can you buy one new and does it lap faster than an m2 cs?
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>>28692272
Yes
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>>28692204
Nothing dude these limited edition specs aren't for you. They aren't for the poor people mindset of carefully calculating every dollar of worth. You're getting manufacturers warranty not a shitty tune by some random shop. People who buy these just want whatever the best thing is and the money isn't important. You're not getting value you're getting an M2 cs badge.
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>>28692276
source?
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>>28692174
>yeah my car is worse by every conceivable metric but I paid more for it and it's new
cool
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>>28692594
not a single person in the world is going to cross shop a new M2 CS with a C6 vette.
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the M2 might be the ultimate seethe generator
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>>28692599
That's because the people who buy new BMWs are know nothing retards with more money than sense, anon.
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>>28692585
As long as we agree that it's a $30k goy tax for brownskinned badge whores then that's fine.
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>>28692615
replace the M2 CS with any car in its class and the point still stands.
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>>28692626
The people that buy new compact luxury sport touring cars are know nothing retards with more money than sense who want to pretend like they're formula 1 drivers as they follow the speed limit on their commute.
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>>28691538
Cars are heavier now, suck it the fuck up it's not 1995 anymore where a 4 door sedan weighed 2500lbs.
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>>28691437
mot my ND2 Miata.
Imagine being denied this simple pleasure.
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>>28692742
>>28691481
A 4 door luxury sedan (giulia) is literally lighter, faster, and more enjoyable than this piece of shit. And it has good steering feedback.
Side note: put those same space age tires on a 90s sports car and it’ll go around corners faster than this.
Suspension design hasn’t really changed at all for pleb cars; in fact, it has regressed in most cases (and even high-spec cars don’t come with an LSD these days, lmao) Best case with nuCars is a gay diff (aka “e-diff”) that overheats after 1-lap.
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>>28692222
checked and raped
>tfw even mustangs come with better suspension technology than BMWs



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