why is everyone crashing the mustang? After driving an old vy ute for more than a decade a mustang with aftermarket suspension feels like a go kart that handles going sideways with extreme ease why are people crashing them? Are they driving an auto and shifting into 2nd gear and losing control maybe? Or are they turning traction control off and leaving ESC on maybe? From my personal experience after driving one for 6,000km with a good amount of that sideways on dirt and tight country roads i think it is the traction control thing.
It's mostly retards that have never owned anything RWD or anything with any real power before trying to show off but not having any skill or experience to do so. The Mustang got a reputation for being a crowd-seeking missile because it's relatively cheap for what it is and widely available.
>>28692878Wy no red brake lights?
>>28692901In what world do red brake light covers look better than black on a yellow car? next you will tell me it needs 1 stripe instead of 3
>>28692905For a mustang that has real nice panel gap and you make a good point with the red lights touche op
>>28692878falcunt here when i run out of fg's im probably gonna get one barra swap it with a turbo build and riase it up with falcon terry bits to piss off boomers
>>28692878From watching crash videos it seems like they have a tendency to snap the other way. It looks like you need to take out the countersteer IMMEDIATELY as it starts to come back or it ends as an overcorrection. The going sideways doesn't look to be the problem, it's the straightening up afterwards where it's unforgiving.
>>28692919Ayy falcunt It is green vy ute anon I finally fucked off my old Ute and bought something newer that is "family orientated" cuz backseats kinda
>>28692927MATEEEEEEE hows it been long time no seeee check out what i didshes got 31"s on the back now this is a old picdid u get a terry? i might get a awd turbo barra one for a beach basher since my old girls rusting out
>>28692931You are a fucking weapon I was just at the point of make the ute 1000hp or buy something new for about the same price and start again so I did that instead, that vy was a fukken turd looking back wombat damage not included it just handled like arse
>>28692934my bottom end let go around 650rwhp 20psi blew the dipstick out the poor cunt valve stems and rings went to i reckon coolant and facken oil and blowbybuilding new engine slowly then gonna put 300-400rwhp in the older blue one i gotboth my cars got roo fucked they dont look as good as these old photos anymore til i get more bonnets bullbars panels paint etcheres the muddies i put on LOL
>>28692935600 is like the limit on a stock bottom end in those you know this
>>28692935Fully sick but do the same size but thinner tractor tyres next time will look sick and go further that's what I had on my brumby bush whacker back in the day thing went places that took a patrol on 38s
>>28692938dont care forged bottom end going in that one>>28692940got thinner ones on the xt 29" 17x8 not enough grip mate
>>28692878>After driving an old vy ute for more than a decadeStopped reading there. Your old piece of shit that was never designed for handling, handles way worse than a modern sporty car. Wow who would have thought. The mustang has never handled well. Every (real, non-ev) mustang I've driven or have been in, has felt like a bouncy castle and it doesn't hide it's weight well at all like other heavy performance cars. The engine sticks way the fuck out over the front axle so the weight distribution is fucked, the overhead cams make the cog fairly high up compared to a corvette with an ls. If you drive something with actually good handling, I.e. brz/gt86/miata/porsche/lotus etc., the mustang feels like a boat. And that's okay, some people like that it feels like a boat. Mostly fat americans. Personally it's not for me.
>>28693166To add to this, I'm sure the higher spec/flagship models like the gt500 and gtd etc. Handle extremely well, but I'm talking about the "normal" mustang gt.
>>28692878>why is everyone crashing the mustang?I've only seen vids of pre S550 crashes. And anything pre S-550 had a live axle save for the 1999-2004 Cobra Mustang
>>28692878I think it's primarily because they panic and don't ride it out, they immediately fully let off the throttle. They also frequently don't slam the brakes, which isn't ideal either but if you've already fully let off the throttle you may as well do full force braking.
>>28692901Euro and Australian Mustangs have clear tail lights because of amber turn signals
>>28692878>why is everyone crashing the mustang?babby's first cheap rwd power it's all down to availability
>>28692905>In what world do red brake light covers look betterIn every world. Clear covers look like cheap eBay shit
>>28692878>Are they driving an auto and shifting into 2nd gear and losing control maybe?This does happen ackthually. I have abyoozed many Mustangs and they like to shift at unpredictable times and regain traction in unpredictable ways, partly because of auto trannymission programming and ESC programming.At least on automatic S550 Mustangs, you can do a drift/slide out of a parking lot (Cars and Coffee style), but as soon as you either 1) let off the gas, 2) counter-steer, the ESC will kick in and kill power, to try to prevent you from crashing. This is even if ESC is "fully off" (these systems are never actually fully off in modern cars). This is just one example, but it has a lot of weird ESC shit programmed in that makes it actually harder to hoon.
>>28693309Also, the old 4.6 had a solid rear axle which led to spinouts if you didn't know how to handle it, which the average mustang driver did not
its not uncommon people buy their stupid kids a mustang and he fuckin kills himself with it within 2 years.
>>28692878Idiots turn off traction control on public roads. Recipe for disaster.
>>28692878Drive-by-wire cars do unpredictable things once you break traction
>>28694208learn to drive my tbw barras are perfectly drivable
>>28692878>why is everyone crashing the mustang? Lift overseer.That's literally it That's why retards crash them.I've driven probably 10x 2015+ mustanges as an instructor.Don't let off the gas abruptly and it's fine This is why we need young defensive driver schools.I've trained a 16yr old girl how to counter steer.Anyone can do it.
>>28695446>Lift overseer.fixed in my falcons (4dr mustangs for u seppos) with stiffer rear springs and lift kitmaybe its because the mustangs wheelbase is too short but ive never had handling issues in my fords
>>28695454Suspension doesn't really affect lift oversteer much anon.Load transfer is something every car has.Lift off the gas and rear load moves forward.So your small oversteer becomes BIG oversteer.Sure different springs & dampers can change how FAST load transfer happens, but can't change the load transfer
>>28695446>This is why we need young defensive driver schools.>I've trained a 16yr old girl how to counter steer.>Anyone can do it.god i wish, but that would be seen by the retards in charge as enabling hoon behaviour and as such would be banned faster than you can say "local racetrack"
>>28695516suspension has a huge effect on how much the load transfer effects rear end grip
>>28695552Load transfer is basically fixed anon.You can run 1,000lb front and rear springs and the load transfer would be near identical to running 100lb springs front and rear.Load transfer is determined by the center of gravity, Roll centers, and wheel base/Width.Notice the math equation doesn't include Spring rates or shocks?Remember, car body movement does not change load transfer
>>28695564this is the dumbest thing ive ever read
>>28693166I have aftermarket shocks and springs on mine, it has zero body role and absolutely feels like a nearly 2 tonnes car. Handles better than the same year ss commodore but which is what I am comparing the 2 door falcon to.
>>28693351You can turn the esc off by putting it in track mode then holding the traction control switch for about 10 seconds. You are welcome, it stays on if you just hit the tc switch even in race mode.
>>28695564Someone has done some level of competitive drifting before.Don't tell him about putting a block of lead in the spare wheel well and raising the front 20mm higher than the rear anon he will think youvare fukked in the head.
>>28692878the mustang only crashes into crowds of people, it has no bloodlust to sate on a country road.
Why is everyone telling op to put red lights on his car? Would look shit.
>>28692878Is the round gt symbol aftermarket? Never seen that before
