you may only choose one, which one are you going for?
>>28711306>shitbox, kraut-flavored>shitbox, pasta-flavored>the queen's royal shitbox featuring British L*yland>the second highest crowning achievement of the French people, surpassed only by the DSgive me the citroen
>>28711306I'll take the Mini. Preferably the Mark VII from 1996-2000.
>>28711306If I was guaranteed parts for fixing it, the Citroen would be cool. However, the Beetle still has 3rd party support to this day due to their popularity and the number of resto projects done to them, plus the amount of tutorials and manuals (in English) available makes it the more attractive option. The mini is a close second for the same reasons.
>>28711306The VW, then I can cut the floor in half and slap a fibreglass body on it, very fun to drivepic related
>>28711306Gimme the frogbox
>>28711345I'd agree on your rationale as well. I'd want the 2CV but the Beetle or Mini would be easier to live with.
top right looks cutest but the beetle is basically a 911 so i'd take that one
Probably the beetle due to the ridiculous aftermarket.You can buy a kit to turn your beetle into practically anything with minimal fuss.Plus it's RWD and fun as fuck during the winter.Fiat is a runner up, but the 500 is gutless and even the slightest incline are an issue for it.
The fiat is criminally underpowered and extremelly uncomfortableI think mini would be the most fun, Citroen or VW for comfort
>>28711345>>28711705There's multiple 2CV parts vendors in the US. Don't let your dreams be memes.t. American Citroen owner
>>28711744My Dad works on DAF trucks and he would laugh at that image. American trucks are for comfort, not speed.
>>28712034Aerodynamics aren't just for speed, they're for fuel efficiency too
>>28711306mini if nothing because it uses steering rack. Can't into cars with steering box.
Already made my choice, Beetle would be a close second but they're not nearly as much fun to drive. And I really would like to drive a 2CV at some point>>28711334SPIs from the early 90s are much nicer to drive and better built>>28711744>>28711715That Fiat is a 600, most of them have 30ish hp
>>28711483Weird looking Manx copy.But what i really want to know is whats going on with that engine.
>>28711306mini is the most practical and fun
>>28711306The 500, no contest.
>>28712584It's a 600
>>28711306Beetle has the most supportFiat is cuteMini is the most fun to drive2CV is one of the greatest shitboxes to ever shitbox
>>28711306I won’t looking for a tiny tranny driving machine with colorful paint
>>28711306i loved fićo so i'll have to go with top right
>>28711306>mass produced NPC econoboxes,old: :D>mass produced NPC econoboxes,new >:cWhy are you guys like this
>>287126812/10
>>28712163The body is called the Daytona, main difference between it and the Manx are the two larger square headlights put into the body rather than the two circular ones screwed on outsideIt's the Type 3 VW, they made them alongside the Beetle engines for the sedans and stationwagons of the same nameThe fun part is that if you stick your hand into the cooling fan you get to not have a hand anymore :DDD
>>28712681>mass produced NPC econoboxes,newI like them, but they must be the best at what they do, which is infinite miles with little money.
>>28711322>queens royal shitboxShe did Landrovers retard.
Anyone who doesn't pick the rally champion is a faggot
>>28713474your short rallies are gay
>>28711306I was looking at Minis just now.https://youtu.be/fQzhZoX3VK8?t=130
>>28712082What's it like driving a classic mini?
>>28712034>comfy AND AerodynamicHow can nip/euro garbage even compete?
>>28711306Think I'll take the one in the middle.
Subaru 360
>>28712681What is funny is that they to some degree exist on a spectrum from Baguette to Sauerkraut.The German offering of high speed, good driving dynamics, and a practical interior with a huge frunk. While the two french horses lets you drive over a field with a carton of eggs somewhere in the car, without you wanting to kill yourself. Its also a weird era, because a lot of things got postponed for the war, and then the post war rationing. Which means its not just the shitboxes of the era, its the shitboxes of about 2 eras + massive WW2 tech advancements on top of rationing. We haven't seen any mainstream OEM actually try anything that interesting, even during the longer Saudi oil embargo.
>>28712034>American trucks are for comfort, not speedEuro trucks are cucked at 56mph so I don't know to what speed you refer.
>>28711322R4 is superior
>>28711306I'll walk
>>28713497>not group bStfu.
>>28711306Mini and it's not even close.
>>28713976This guy gets it
I'm surprised the Mini isn't the only answer being posted here.>only one of the four with racing pedigree>only one of the four that makes a four pot economy car work>only one that looks remotely good
>>28713614Super low seating position, limited suspension travel, tight steering. Weighs about 750kg with me and a full tank on board, and you really feel that especially at low speeds. Everything you do with it is just very immediate. Minis sit on rubber cones instead of springs, and those cones don't have a linear "spring rate", they get stiffer as you compress them. The car felt really skittish before I rebuilt the subframes and gave it an alignment, now it's just planted.
>>28711306i'll take зaпopoжeц
>>28714116Can the stock engine reach 65mph?
>>28714239that's barely over 100 kph kek (never cared to look it up before)
>>28714239which one?Most Minis you'll find these days are either 998s (40hp) or 1275s, and those 998s top out at 85ish mph
>>28713971>He thinks group B holds a candle to raids
>>28711306mini
>>28712010I actually like those funny little roller snails. What's the ownership and maintenance experience like?I got a bug in my head about the suspension setup, with how elegant and simple it is. Is it worthwhile for off-road? I doubt it has power to rock climb, though. I know you can buy new built complete chassis, and I have a pipe dream about building one into a RWD Willy's jeep type off road project
>>28714115>only one of the four with racing pedigreethe abarth version of the fiat 600 saw plenty of success in racing
>>28714371Service intervals (oil, lubrication, etc) are really short because it's an old design. On the 2CV and derivatives you can get decent access by unbolting the fenders. Front brake work is kind of annoying because they're inboard.You can do light off-roading (this was intended given the shit roads in France at the time). 4wd variants exist but are extremely rare. Pick a late year if you have the choice, or it'll be painful to drive anything other than suburban roads.
>>28711306that fiat is for me the cutest car ever made, wish they made the exact same shape but built it better and with better components
>>28711306600...
>>28714350Thats because it roflstomps it retard. Do crashes even happen in the sand ballet?
>>28714308Do they make turbo/supercharger kits or is there just not enough room in the engine bay?
Scoob 360
>>28712681you can keep those old econoboxes on the street for forever and fix them yourself if anyhing breaksthe new econoboxes? off to the scrapyard after 15 years
>>28715037Use an internet search engine of your choice and feel free to report back with the results ya dingus
>>28715037People have been known to fit a small block chev in there.
>>28715037Minis are ultra modular. Another reason theyre the best.
Dont forget America!
>>28715032you're so much of an ignorant retard I'm not going to even bother enlightening you
>>28715169Nice washing machine.
I'll take one 126p please
>>28712681Because these cars are actually econoboxes. An OEM headlight assembly in a modern Toyota is over a grand, easy. Nothing economical about it.
>>28715169For me its the Pinto.
>>28711306This one.
>>287113064CV, twice as good as a 2CV
>>28711306I'll take the Hitler car, please.
I love the beetle so fucking much
>>28711306gimme this
One day, I will venture to visit Torino Esposizioni, and I shall do this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFDiYvqyecgP.S. Paramount, I'm begging you, please scan this in HD. I'm tired of watching this terrible piss-coloured shadowy scan. I've tried to rescue it myself, and sadly there just isn't enough information in the shadows.
>>28711306>you may only choose one, which one are you going for?
>>28716789Finally someone with taste
>>28712681they've all got something unique about them, while modern econoboxes are all the same
>>28711306Mk1 mini, no competition.
>>28712034>American trucks are for comfort,what comfort, you have cab mounted straight to frame, no airbags or any other softenersITT americans don't know what this is
>>28716789>>28717585anon asked to choose car not horse carriage with engine
>>28713474So, all of them?
>>28717700>no airbags or any other softenerNigger even the seats on a modern American truck are on airbags.
mini mogs
>>28717723>not horse carriage with engineThat's exactly what a CAR is, keep seething about those onions, boy
>>28712082Why does it have italian gauges
>>28715045Does it?
>>28717832My first thought is that it is probably an Innocenti Mini. They built them in Italy to side-step import taxes.Upon further inspection, it seems to be an Innocenti Mini 1000 (pic). Interesting German odometer above the mirror in that other pic.I also found out that the Innocenti Coopers have THE best gauges of any Mini ever!
>>28718497Pic related, an Innocenti Mini Cooper interior.
>>28718499Also, they developed a successor still based on the mini drivetrain called the Innocenti Mini 90/120. Not sure why British Leyland didn't pilfer the design for themselves. Apparently it was more cramped inside.P.S. I just remembered that fibreglass bodied Minis were produced in chile for a time. There are pictures of BMC prototyping fibreglass mini shells in the late 60s. I wonder why they didn't swap, because lord knows Minis love to rust.
>>28711345>However, the Beetle still has 3rd party support to this day due to their popularity and the number of resto projects done to them, plus the amount of tutorials and manuals (in English) availableyou can buy every single part brand new to make a brand new 2CV. and resources in english are widely available because bongs love them.
>>28717795This
>Nobody is posting the hillman ImpIts ogre
>>28718497yup, Innocenti 1001. The odometer is a manual trip odometer with a magnet, typical 60s accesory. (and useful)>>28718542>Apparently it was more cramped inside.Nah. It has a Mini floorpan and wheelbase, the main difference is the cabin is a little wider and roof and windows are much taller. A Mini forces you to lean over if you want too look at traffic lights or out the sides like any 50s car, the Innocenti just has much better visibility. And a proper hatch with flip-down rear seats
>>28711345All the cars in the pic still have strong aftermarket to this day i wouldnt worry about that
>>28718497Not to mention sexy chrome trims
i choose baby
>>28717795Banned for non French headlight bulbs.Methinks there were some bad losers.
>>28717185Christ I'm glad they deleted that from the final cut.
>>28711306For me, it's the Rabbit.
>>28720755While I agree it probably wouldn't have fit, I think it's a shame it wasn't included as a post credits scene.
>>28720784Mk1 Golf Gti was indeed a game changer.Fiat wanted some and came up with pic which was about as silly as you could get.120/130hp through the front wheels took a long time to tame.
for me its the 360
>>28717795Mini mogs Mog
>>28722872Mini Mini mogs Mog
>>28722881Mini Mini mogs mini Mog
>>28722886Mog's mini Mini mogs mini Mog
>>28722902Mog's mini Mini mogs mini mog's mini Mog
>>28722913Mini mog's mini Mini mogs mini mog's mini Mog
>>28722917Now discuss why the FF layout kicked the FR layouts ass.
>>28711306the mini is the least terrible with good handling and plenty of aftermarket tuning for its engines. It also looks the best.the 500 is probably fun but I expect will be less reliable than the mini.the 2CV and beetle were awful "peoples cars" design to move people and nothing else.
>>28723115I wouldn't transport a carton of eggs across a ploughed field in a Mini.(...I would transport a stack of gold across Turin instead.)
>>28723382I would transport five idiots to a pub and expect five drunken bums to get back to work at the end of lunch with a Mini. I don't think Germans ot indeed Americans would understand that work ethos.
>>28723115it's a 600. the watercooled inline 4 is definitely better than some of the engines that the beetle came withthat being said it definitely does need consistent tinkering
I think this was the best iteration of the Mini.
>>28723393Beetle was originally a scheme where everyone chipped in a bunch of money a month and they would eventually get a nice car. Except that was never the plan and nobody got their nice car.Nazis are a bunch of cnuts.
>>28711306I love them all, but today I choose France, because of the oddity of the Citroen.
Give me Mini give Mini me give drive Mini me drive Mini give me drive Mini give me you
there are too many mini apologists in this thread
>>28725940>pic related, me making you apologise after designing one of the finest motor cars ever
>>28725940>1969+56>mfw m8 is not getting his skates on
>>28725940>You'll be making a grave error, if you don't appreciate Minis in this thread.>There are a quarter of a million Mini haters on 4chan, and they'll be made to suffer.>Every thread, comment, reply & reaction image will be smashed.>Mr. Bridger will drive them into the sea.
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