Hotwheels Edition>For Classics made from 1979 or older, with few exceptions.>Everybody has their own taste, but some tastes are wrong. If you aren't sure if your car is classic or not, it's not.>Your Honda Miata doesn't belong here.>US, Euro, Jap, or whatever.>Post your classic, your work on it, your hackery, and get advice.>Any and all discussion about classics welcome, but may not necessarily generate responses; don't get butthurt.>Period correct performance > cosmetics.>Metal > plastic.>Classic shitbox > modern shitbox.>JBweld and RTV can fix anything>If you see rust there is more.>Rust and bodywork are the most difficult thing to repair.>Electrical work is difficult until you stop reading forum posts and buy a multimeter.>Low oil pressure? Worn mains and rod bearings. Use lucas and 15W40 until you afford a rebuild.>Do NOT buy a classic and plan to pay someone to work on it. You need to be able to do 90% or more of the work or you will go broke.>You will spend twice your budget, unless you have years of experience. If the salty old hands agree, it's true.>If you can't tune a carb you might literally be retarded>Nothing is as easy as it seemsPrevious Thread: >>28719045
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More progress on the ghetto blaster.Popped the diff cover off and drained the ancient ichor out - it's been changed before because whoever did it did a piss poor job of making an RTV gasket and it had leaked a decent amount.Got the rear brakes all put back together besides the steel lines that broke, need to bend the new ones up. Same thing happened on the passenger rear when I went to change that cylinder, so it's gonna have new last-segment brake lines on all four wheels.Hoping to get the brake lines done tomorrow, the diff back together, and maybe flush the coolant as well.
>>28742045How clean is clean enough to ensure a good seal when putting the cover back on? I got all the old RTV off, hit the surface a little bit with some 1200 grit wet dry on a flat sanding block. Good enough or should I go at it some more?
>>28742046I'm just gonna day once again that I hate drum brakes. Stupid piece of shit contraptions. Only doing all this so I can drive it while I source a 302/347 and a T5. Any suggestions for how I should go about that?
>>28742046Wouldn't sanding leave grit behind or inside the housing? 1200 is pretty high though Clean the surface good with brakleen, let dry. Are you using gearbox-specific RTV, anerobic sealant, or that blue gasket compound?
fucken hell, one of the nuts on the front leaf spring hanger bracket had its washer stuck and i didn't see it so when i tried torquing it up to 30 ft lb per the FSM it fucking snapped. is it alright if the other three studs are still holding the spring on? if not i'll just wait till the replacement nuts and studs come in.right rear brake line nut i can't get out from the rusted line and i can't be fucked dealing with flaring more lines so paypig time. taking the line to a brake shop tomorrow to ask if they can make a new one with the same bends.>>28742047honestly after watching uncle tony's video on drum brake rebuild tips and tricks i actually like working on them now. the screwdriver trick to stick the primary and secondary springs back on is satisfying to do every time, and it's the only way i know how to put the springs back on...i still don't know how those spring pliers are meant to be used lol.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae4f4A2j-Xsscrewdriver trick at 6:50. saw someone say that this works even better with a phillips driver. mind you, this is a mopar drum brake which is also what i've got, ford might do things differently.as for removing the primary and secondary springs, so far i've only been able to get them off with that removal tool that you twist on the anchor. get a good one that actually has a wavy groove in it that acts as a cam for the spring, the cheaper ones don't have that so it's more annoying.
>>28742114not that anon but i figure any grit would be held in suspension by the gear oil once filled up. could always do a drain and refill if unsure.
>>28742144>is it alright if the other three studs are still holding the spring on? if not i'll just wait till the replacement nuts and studs come in.upon some further reading it seems like i can just use a nut and bolt. will just go with that until i can actually get new nuts and studs
>>28742046its pretty hard to fuck it up, usually you just smear a wrag with brake cleaner or gas over it and all the shit comes off.the machineshop I use to go to uses grey rtv for oil seals but it sets super runny so you have to be careful with it.
>>28742047if that's an 8.8 you can parts bin mustang caliper brackets but you'll have to make hard lines for the caliper flex hoses and need 5lug axles.you'll have to match axle length (sn95 vs fox) to your caliper brackets.also you'll have to run an inline adjustable proportioning valve and gut your factory one to make it behave most likely.kindof a pile of money just to avoid drums.
>>28742114>>28742178I put a rag over the gears while I was sanding but I can blow it out with my air compressor too before I re-assemble, and will wipe the surface with some brakleen too. I have some permatex ultra-black RTV I was going to use. I got a fel-pro gasket as well because desu I'm not a big fan of the RTV-only approach that most people seem to do - I always see them weeping when done like that but maybe it's just because it's being done by morons.The cover was pretty rusty, so I hit it with a wire-brush then let some rust remover gel soak on it for about two hours. Not perfect but good enough.
>>28742184>7.5nevermind
>>28742184>I always see them weeping when done like that but maybe it's just because it's being done by moronsThey could just be squeezing out a bead of rtv, some factory service manuals say to do this but i've personally had much better results smearing it across the sealing surface.
>>28742184>I'm not a big fan of the RTV-only approachthat's all a diff cover needs.
>>28742183It's a 7.5, but I have an 8.8 waiting to go in the car. Going to put it all in at once with the new motor and trans once I have them, and considering just throwing money at a wilwood disc brake kit while I'm at it too.
>>28742047>piece of shit contraptionsfaget opinioni have them on all 4 corners, all the drums are same part number
>>28742200Drums are fucking faggot rube goldberg machines and it's incomprehensible to me that they were used so widely and for so long, when a disc brake is obviously superior in every single regard.Drum brakes are something you make do with if they came on your vehicle and it's not worth the expense or effort of retrofitting discs, not something to be proud of.
>>28741920Nice job hiding the plate
>>28742240>superior in every single regardretardin a heavy boat car they're actually better because of their superior stopping power. you don't need heat dissipation unless you're racing
>>28742240drum brakes actually have more stopping power than discs due to the extra surface area. they also have a bit of a positive feedback effect where the rotation of the wheel forces the shoes even harder against the drums. They don't get rid of heat as well as discs though.
>>28742245>>28742252>superior stopping powercompared to what, a budget tier single piston caliper?>you don't need heat dissipation unless you're racingor descending grades with a trailer, which is when drum brakes love to fade like crazy and overheatLook I've had drums and discs on both cars/trucks and bikes, and inshallah I will never have to deal with shit ass drums ever again. Liking drum brakes is a contrarian retard position to take. Manufactures only used them because they were cheap.
>>28742258a disc brake and a drum brake for an equal size will see the drum brake having more stopping power. it's one of the reasons why until very recently, big rigs still used drums
>>28742046I usually just go over mating surfaces with a razor blade, clean with brake parts cleaner, and call it good.
This is a 185/75-14, which is the manufacturer spec for this car.I'm 100% certain a 205/70-14 will fit with no issues.>0.8" wider>0.2" larger diameter.>1.6% speedo error so probably less error than it already has.But the real question is, will a 215/70-14 fit with no issues (e.g. suspension bottomed out, wheel cranked, etc)? I think probably yes, but I'm not as sure. What do you think?>1.2" wider>1" larger diameter, so ~1/2" bigger radius in the wheel well.>4% speedo error, still manageable imo.
>>28742280Also most importantly which one would look the best?
>>28742046I'm gonna tell you whut's clean is that ring gear
>>28742274I believe that, IF and only if everything is actually working correctly in the drum brake. The drum isn't worn enough to cause issues with the shoe radius, the adjuster is working correctly, etc etc. It makes sense to me that they'd be used on a semi truck, but on a passenger vehicle I genuinely believe they should have been completely deprecated in the 70s if not earlier.
>>28742291The problem is one that continues to this day - people riding their brakes constantly, even when there's no slope. people don't even know what the engine brake is or worse, think it'll damage the engine. They're fine for every day use when people know what they're doing.Self adjusters also only really work when you slam the brakes in reverse. People don't know about that one, they usually just think reversing then coming to a stop as they usually do will suffice but you need to brake pretty hard.The superior braking force is lost when the brakes get hot though.They do have some other uses though - quite a few drag guys still keep drums on their cars because they can rev the engine higher instead of using a trans brake, and it's also easier to build boost with them. Those aren't really applicable to daily drivers for fairly obvious reasons though.also i think the 215s will look better since they'll fill up the wheelhouse more than the 205s. If you're unsure about fitment turn the wheels full lock and use tape measure
why is the cutoff 1979
>>28742333It isn't really - pretty sure that OP hasn't been updated in years and cars well into the 80s are acceptable now.I'd even say we should consider accepting anything pre-OBDII just due to how slow the board is now.
>>28742191>wilwood disc brake kitdon't know what that costs but it'd be much cheaper to just upgrade to cobra brakes in most cases compared to aftermarket kits.
>>28742280225/70/14s will fit if you can find them
>>28742333boomers who desperately don't want to be reminded that 2000 was 25 years ago
Got my hands on a bit of a rarity in the same deal I got the Capri, the burgers will know it as a Merkur XR4Ti but for the rest of the world it's the Sierra XR4i, the car that evolved into the Sierra Cosworth shortly after.Not too much history known on the car other than it's an original 1984 NZ-new model, which according to some of the oldies I spoke with at car shows we only ever got 25 of them to sell throughout the country, 1 for each dealership - mainly because the Cortina was still the undisputed king of Ford sales here back then.The bloke I got it from had it sitting out the back of his big car warehouse he stores his classics in for 20-odd years and never even put a tarp over it or set it up on jack stands to keep it out of the grass and mud, leading to what basically was a miniature zoo in both the engine bay and cabin itself because he couldn't be fucked to power up one of the windows and wind it up. The whole front end ahead of the engine where the bumper mounts also rusted off too.It's currently got no plates and it's registration expired back in 1997, so the odds of trying to get it back on the road with the current regime of anal inspections are slim at best.The good news is that it's basically got everything there needed to run the car - drivetrain, brakes, steering wheel, electrics, the whole gambit. The downside is that rats had been chewing at the engine bay electricals, I had to get a full upper dashboard and instrument cluster to replace the missing ones and someone smashed the original ignition barrel & casting off with a hammer that also needed replacement. The engine very much turns over and is freely turning with the starter powered on but the mechanical injection system and it's filters/lines will need either serious duct taping or straight replacement before I even think about giving the motor fuel and spark.The only real genuine kick in the nuts that I had with this thing was that I lost the sunroof on the trip home.
>>28742333it was changed to get that annoying namefag to go away... it didn't work
>>28742508sick, but alsof
>>28742183On a fox you need (2) driver side ranger axles.
>>28742342I'll look into that as well. It's so easy for the project scope blow up. Changing to discs? Unless you're getting specific aftermarket conversions, now you need new axles. If you're replacing the axles, might as well switch to 5-lug - now you're doing the front rotors as well, and you need new wheels.
>looking for a small 80’s shitbox truck to haul stuff around in>find this manual 460ci dentside for less than what people were asking for running Rangers and S-10s in my areaWasn’t intending on “fixing up a classic”, and a 1 ton dually is WAY more than what I really needed, but honestly this thing is just badass man. I’ve never been a huge truck kind of guy either, but I get it now. Built the bed myself, and brought the paint back to life with some compound. Just fixing mechanical stuff as it needs it
>>28742910That thing is badass
>>28742822I mean I went through that route because I was starry eyed and hoarding parts to do this someday, like brembo calipers and spindles which would probably be hard to source in the future for cheap.then my 7.5 grenaded so it lit a fire under my ass to make it happen now.honestly there's not alot wrong with just slapping the cobra (or sn95 which probably fits easier) brake booster for better brake feeling on a stock foxbody with drum rear.
>>28742191On the rear, I would just use junkyard and OEM stuff. The explorer bearings are bigger than the car bearings, so you may have to take that into account when putting together a brake kit. A lot of the wilwood kits kinda suck if they're not the real deal race parts.https://youtu.be/Y9THAB7N5bg?t=304
>>28742684>>28742923>>28742924I'll start looking for some Cobra or SN95 rear disc setups to see what it might take to get them mounted up proper on the 8.8Got the 7.5 all back together with fresh oil in it today. Cleaning things up underneath the car here and there as I go.Ordered the 215/70-14s and having them mounted up on Wednesday. Should be genuinely drivable by the end of the week.
>>28743140if the speedo accuracy bugs you, clark brothers instrument make gear ratio adapters with various ratio gears but i dunno if they sell direct to the public, as far as i can tell you probably have to find out which garages sell their stuff, then tell them how off your speedo is, what model car and gearbox you've got and they'll do the rest. it might be kinda pricey though.
>>28743152I'm not too worried about speedo accuracy for now. If I end up really liking this car and keeping it for the long term, I'm probably going to try to install a Mustang 6-gauge dash bezel and cover in it with aftermarket instruments. That will let me solve any speedo issues and give me the extra gauges I crave.
>>28743152On a Ford you just change out the worm gear on the end of the speedo cable that goes into the transmission.Takes longer to jack up the car than to switch the gear- one bolt to pop the mount assembly off, one clip to pull the gear.
>>28743252oh yeah i forgot about simply changing the driven gear. i tried doing that on my toyota and that's when i found out that for the gearbox i had, there were actually two drive gear sizes because the one i got was too small to actually mesh with the drive gear.
>>28743140noice
>>28742910Welcome to the club. Sweet looking dent, my dude.t. bump and now OBS owner
do you guys keep your cars stock?
>>28745152depends. since im gonna be doing a fair bit of mountain driving, driving it hard and maybe even a track day once in a blue moon i've replaced the front drums with discs.
>>28745152horses for courses
>>28745152Depends on the aftermarket and what makes better sense to move up to - going from carb to EFI is a bit of a no brainer especially with how easy it is today with self-learning kits that are a slap-on-and-go solutionMy Alfa 33 has pretty much zero aftermarket apart from factory-spec things and even then some things are damn near unobtainium to find - looking at you, rear gearbox mounting bushing.The Capri though, those things have had and still have a great aftermarket for well over 50 years so I'm allowed to go a bit further - first thing is getting rid of the shitty 2 barrel carb on the Essex and moving up to a 4 barrel EFI system for starters, 5 speed box is the big upgrade recommended for anyone wanting a Capri or Escort as 4 is pretty merde in this day & ageEnd of the day you just do what you like, it's your ride
