Hotwheels Edition>For Classics made from 1979 or older, with few exceptions.>Everybody has their own taste, but some tastes are wrong. If you aren't sure if your car is classic or not, it's not.>Your Honda Miata doesn't belong here.>US, Euro, Jap, or whatever.>Post your classic, your work on it, your hackery, and get advice.>Any and all discussion about classics welcome, but may not necessarily generate responses; don't get butthurt.>Period correct performance > cosmetics.>Metal > plastic.>Classic shitbox > modern shitbox.>JBweld and RTV can fix anything>If you see rust there is more.>Rust and bodywork are the most difficult thing to repair.>Electrical work is difficult until you stop reading forum posts and buy a multimeter.>Low oil pressure? Worn mains and rod bearings. Use lucas and 15W40 until you afford a rebuild.>Do NOT buy a classic and plan to pay someone to work on it. You need to be able to do 90% or more of the work or you will go broke.>You will spend twice your budget, unless you have years of experience. If the salty old hands agree, it's true.>If you can't tune a carb you might literally be retarded>Nothing is as easy as it seemsPrevious Thread: >>28719045
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More progress on the ghetto blaster.Popped the diff cover off and drained the ancient ichor out - it's been changed before because whoever did it did a piss poor job of making an RTV gasket and it had leaked a decent amount.Got the rear brakes all put back together besides the steel lines that broke, need to bend the new ones up. Same thing happened on the passenger rear when I went to change that cylinder, so it's gonna have new last-segment brake lines on all four wheels.Hoping to get the brake lines done tomorrow, the diff back together, and maybe flush the coolant as well.
>>28742045How clean is clean enough to ensure a good seal when putting the cover back on? I got all the old RTV off, hit the surface a little bit with some 1200 grit wet dry on a flat sanding block. Good enough or should I go at it some more?
>>28742046I'm just gonna day once again that I hate drum brakes. Stupid piece of shit contraptions. Only doing all this so I can drive it while I source a 302/347 and a T5. Any suggestions for how I should go about that?
>>28742046Wouldn't sanding leave grit behind or inside the housing? 1200 is pretty high though Clean the surface good with brakleen, let dry. Are you using gearbox-specific RTV, anerobic sealant, or that blue gasket compound?
fucken hell, one of the nuts on the front leaf spring hanger bracket had its washer stuck and i didn't see it so when i tried torquing it up to 30 ft lb per the FSM it fucking snapped. is it alright if the other three studs are still holding the spring on? if not i'll just wait till the replacement nuts and studs come in.right rear brake line nut i can't get out from the rusted line and i can't be fucked dealing with flaring more lines so paypig time. taking the line to a brake shop tomorrow to ask if they can make a new one with the same bends.>>28742047honestly after watching uncle tony's video on drum brake rebuild tips and tricks i actually like working on them now. the screwdriver trick to stick the primary and secondary springs back on is satisfying to do every time, and it's the only way i know how to put the springs back on...i still don't know how those spring pliers are meant to be used lol.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae4f4A2j-Xsscrewdriver trick at 6:50. saw someone say that this works even better with a phillips driver. mind you, this is a mopar drum brake which is also what i've got, ford might do things differently.as for removing the primary and secondary springs, so far i've only been able to get them off with that removal tool that you twist on the anchor. get a good one that actually has a wavy groove in it that acts as a cam for the spring, the cheaper ones don't have that so it's more annoying.
>>28742114not that anon but i figure any grit would be held in suspension by the gear oil once filled up. could always do a drain and refill if unsure.
>>28742144>is it alright if the other three studs are still holding the spring on? if not i'll just wait till the replacement nuts and studs come in.upon some further reading it seems like i can just use a nut and bolt. will just go with that until i can actually get new nuts and studs
>>28742046its pretty hard to fuck it up, usually you just smear a wrag with brake cleaner or gas over it and all the shit comes off.the machineshop I use to go to uses grey rtv for oil seals but it sets super runny so you have to be careful with it.
>>28742047if that's an 8.8 you can parts bin mustang caliper brackets but you'll have to make hard lines for the caliper flex hoses and need 5lug axles.you'll have to match axle length (sn95 vs fox) to your caliper brackets.also you'll have to run an inline adjustable proportioning valve and gut your factory one to make it behave most likely.kindof a pile of money just to avoid drums.
>>28742114>>28742178I put a rag over the gears while I was sanding but I can blow it out with my air compressor too before I re-assemble, and will wipe the surface with some brakleen too. I have some permatex ultra-black RTV I was going to use. I got a fel-pro gasket as well because desu I'm not a big fan of the RTV-only approach that most people seem to do - I always see them weeping when done like that but maybe it's just because it's being done by morons.The cover was pretty rusty, so I hit it with a wire-brush then let some rust remover gel soak on it for about two hours. Not perfect but good enough.
>>28742184>7.5nevermind
>>28742184>I always see them weeping when done like that but maybe it's just because it's being done by moronsThey could just be squeezing out a bead of rtv, some factory service manuals say to do this but i've personally had much better results smearing it across the sealing surface.
>>28742184>I'm not a big fan of the RTV-only approachthat's all a diff cover needs.
>>28742183It's a 7.5, but I have an 8.8 waiting to go in the car. Going to put it all in at once with the new motor and trans once I have them, and considering just throwing money at a wilwood disc brake kit while I'm at it too.
>>28742047>piece of shit contraptionsfaget opinioni have them on all 4 corners, all the drums are same part number
>>28742200Drums are fucking faggot rube goldberg machines and it's incomprehensible to me that they were used so widely and for so long, when a disc brake is obviously superior in every single regard.Drum brakes are something you make do with if they came on your vehicle and it's not worth the expense or effort of retrofitting discs, not something to be proud of.
>>28741920Nice job hiding the plate
>>28742240>superior in every single regardretardin a heavy boat car they're actually better because of their superior stopping power. you don't need heat dissipation unless you're racing
>>28742240drum brakes actually have more stopping power than discs due to the extra surface area. they also have a bit of a positive feedback effect where the rotation of the wheel forces the shoes even harder against the drums. They don't get rid of heat as well as discs though.
>>28742245>>28742252>superior stopping powercompared to what, a budget tier single piston caliper?>you don't need heat dissipation unless you're racingor descending grades with a trailer, which is when drum brakes love to fade like crazy and overheatLook I've had drums and discs on both cars/trucks and bikes, and inshallah I will never have to deal with shit ass drums ever again. Liking drum brakes is a contrarian retard position to take. Manufactures only used them because they were cheap.
>>28742258a disc brake and a drum brake for an equal size will see the drum brake having more stopping power. it's one of the reasons why until very recently, big rigs still used drums
>>28742046I usually just go over mating surfaces with a razor blade, clean with brake parts cleaner, and call it good.
This is a 185/75-14, which is the manufacturer spec for this car.I'm 100% certain a 205/70-14 will fit with no issues.>0.8" wider>0.2" larger diameter.>1.6% speedo error so probably less error than it already has.But the real question is, will a 215/70-14 fit with no issues (e.g. suspension bottomed out, wheel cranked, etc)? I think probably yes, but I'm not as sure. What do you think?>1.2" wider>1" larger diameter, so ~1/2" bigger radius in the wheel well.>4% speedo error, still manageable imo.
>>28742280Also most importantly which one would look the best?
>>28742046I'm gonna tell you whut's clean is that ring gear
>>28742274I believe that, IF and only if everything is actually working correctly in the drum brake. The drum isn't worn enough to cause issues with the shoe radius, the adjuster is working correctly, etc etc. It makes sense to me that they'd be used on a semi truck, but on a passenger vehicle I genuinely believe they should have been completely deprecated in the 70s if not earlier.
>>28742291The problem is one that continues to this day - people riding their brakes constantly, even when there's no slope. people don't even know what the engine brake is or worse, think it'll damage the engine. They're fine for every day use when people know what they're doing.Self adjusters also only really work when you slam the brakes in reverse. People don't know about that one, they usually just think reversing then coming to a stop as they usually do will suffice but you need to brake pretty hard.The superior braking force is lost when the brakes get hot though.They do have some other uses though - quite a few drag guys still keep drums on their cars because they can rev the engine higher instead of using a trans brake, and it's also easier to build boost with them. Those aren't really applicable to daily drivers for fairly obvious reasons though.also i think the 215s will look better since they'll fill up the wheelhouse more than the 205s. If you're unsure about fitment turn the wheels full lock and use tape measure
why is the cutoff 1979
>>28742333It isn't really - pretty sure that OP hasn't been updated in years and cars well into the 80s are acceptable now.I'd even say we should consider accepting anything pre-OBDII just due to how slow the board is now.
>>28742191>wilwood disc brake kitdon't know what that costs but it'd be much cheaper to just upgrade to cobra brakes in most cases compared to aftermarket kits.
>>28742280225/70/14s will fit if you can find them
>>28742333boomers who desperately don't want to be reminded that 2000 was 25 years ago
Got my hands on a bit of a rarity in the same deal I got the Capri, the burgers will know it as a Merkur XR4Ti but for the rest of the world it's the Sierra XR4i, the car that evolved into the Sierra Cosworth shortly after.Not too much history known on the car other than it's an original 1984 NZ-new model, which according to some of the oldies I spoke with at car shows we only ever got 25 of them to sell throughout the country, 1 for each dealership - mainly because the Cortina was still the undisputed king of Ford sales here back then.The bloke I got it from had it sitting out the back of his big car warehouse he stores his classics in for 20-odd years and never even put a tarp over it or set it up on jack stands to keep it out of the grass and mud, leading to what basically was a miniature zoo in both the engine bay and cabin itself because he couldn't be fucked to power up one of the windows and wind it up. The whole front end ahead of the engine where the bumper mounts also rusted off too.It's currently got no plates and it's registration expired back in 1997, so the odds of trying to get it back on the road with the current regime of anal inspections are slim at best.The good news is that it's basically got everything there needed to run the car - drivetrain, brakes, steering wheel, electrics, the whole gambit. The downside is that rats had been chewing at the engine bay electricals, I had to get a full upper dashboard and instrument cluster to replace the missing ones and someone smashed the original ignition barrel & casting off with a hammer that also needed replacement. The engine very much turns over and is freely turning with the starter powered on but the mechanical injection system and it's filters/lines will need either serious duct taping or straight replacement before I even think about giving the motor fuel and spark.The only real genuine kick in the nuts that I had with this thing was that I lost the sunroof on the trip home.
>>28742333it was changed to get that annoying namefag to go away... it didn't work
>>28742508sick, but alsof
>>28742183On a fox you need (2) driver side ranger axles.
>>28742342I'll look into that as well. It's so easy for the project scope blow up. Changing to discs? Unless you're getting specific aftermarket conversions, now you need new axles. If you're replacing the axles, might as well switch to 5-lug - now you're doing the front rotors as well, and you need new wheels.
>looking for a small 80’s shitbox truck to haul stuff around in>find this manual 460ci dentside for less than what people were asking for running Rangers and S-10s in my areaWasn’t intending on “fixing up a classic”, and a 1 ton dually is WAY more than what I really needed, but honestly this thing is just badass man. I’ve never been a huge truck kind of guy either, but I get it now. Built the bed myself, and brought the paint back to life with some compound. Just fixing mechanical stuff as it needs it
>>28742910That thing is badass
>>28742822I mean I went through that route because I was starry eyed and hoarding parts to do this someday, like brembo calipers and spindles which would probably be hard to source in the future for cheap.then my 7.5 grenaded so it lit a fire under my ass to make it happen now.honestly there's not alot wrong with just slapping the cobra (or sn95 which probably fits easier) brake booster for better brake feeling on a stock foxbody with drum rear.
>>28742191On the rear, I would just use junkyard and OEM stuff. The explorer bearings are bigger than the car bearings, so you may have to take that into account when putting together a brake kit. A lot of the wilwood kits kinda suck if they're not the real deal race parts.https://youtu.be/Y9THAB7N5bg?t=304
>>28742684>>28742923>>28742924I'll start looking for some Cobra or SN95 rear disc setups to see what it might take to get them mounted up proper on the 8.8Got the 7.5 all back together with fresh oil in it today. Cleaning things up underneath the car here and there as I go.Ordered the 215/70-14s and having them mounted up on Wednesday. Should be genuinely drivable by the end of the week.
>>28743140if the speedo accuracy bugs you, clark brothers instrument make gear ratio adapters with various ratio gears but i dunno if they sell direct to the public, as far as i can tell you probably have to find out which garages sell their stuff, then tell them how off your speedo is, what model car and gearbox you've got and they'll do the rest. it might be kinda pricey though.
>>28743152I'm not too worried about speedo accuracy for now. If I end up really liking this car and keeping it for the long term, I'm probably going to try to install a Mustang 6-gauge dash bezel and cover in it with aftermarket instruments. That will let me solve any speedo issues and give me the extra gauges I crave.
>>28743152On a Ford you just change out the worm gear on the end of the speedo cable that goes into the transmission.Takes longer to jack up the car than to switch the gear- one bolt to pop the mount assembly off, one clip to pull the gear.
>>28743252oh yeah i forgot about simply changing the driven gear. i tried doing that on my toyota and that's when i found out that for the gearbox i had, there were actually two drive gear sizes because the one i got was too small to actually mesh with the drive gear.
>>28743140noice
>>28742910Welcome to the club. Sweet looking dent, my dude.t. bump and now OBS owner
do you guys keep your cars stock?
>>28745152depends. since im gonna be doing a fair bit of mountain driving, driving it hard and maybe even a track day once in a blue moon i've replaced the front drums with discs.
>>28745152horses for courses
>>28745152Depends on the aftermarket and what makes better sense to move up to - going from carb to EFI is a bit of a no brainer especially with how easy it is today with self-learning kits that are a slap-on-and-go solutionMy Alfa 33 has pretty much zero aftermarket apart from factory-spec things and even then some things are damn near unobtainium to find - looking at you, rear gearbox mounting bushing.The Capri though, those things have had and still have a great aftermarket for well over 50 years so I'm allowed to go a bit further - first thing is getting rid of the shitty 2 barrel carb on the Essex and moving up to a 4 barrel EFI system for starters, 5 speed box is the big upgrade recommended for anyone wanting a Capri or Escort as 4 is pretty merde in this day & ageEnd of the day you just do what you like, it's your ride
Finally have something worthy of being back on this board for. 68 Galaxie 4 door. 302, FMX and the shitty WER rear end. Only real rust is a bubble or two on a couple of doors and the trunk pan is pretty flakey. Weeping leaks out of a few places on the engine, but was able to drive it home 45 minutes without overheating or blowing up. Any recs on where to find classic junkyards on the east coast? Closer to Virginia the better, looking to swap a 9 inch rear end in as they came on the big block cars. So any 66-68 Big Block Galaxie I would love to get my hands on. I can get one from French Lake in MN shipped for ~$700 as a last resort, but hoping for something cheaper. Also planning to completely redo all control/trailing arms and springs and then hopefully one day build up a stroker and drop it in with a TKX.
>>28745152I do. More of a challenge to keep one that was than to bespoke everything.
>>28746146>build up a stroker and drop it in with a TKXhnnnng
>>28746146hell yeah>>28746198I changed a bunch of stuff on my car, and I realize I would be fucked if I broke down far away from home. Next go around, I'm going to try to use as many factory parts as possible while still hotrodding.
>>28746290the way i see it, fab work/custom stuff for anything that isn't really a service/wear item, that can then be used to bolt on off-the-shelf parts, like caliper mounting brackets. or a slave cylinder that takes a generic rubber O-ring and can be reconditioned by any brake shop etc.
>E body>big block>$11kmotherfuckermarketplace/item/2008290266692784
>>28741875I have a 76 K10 I am restoring. 350 sbc. Lwb. I pulled the steering wheel and unlocked the ignition. New battery, new fluids and filters. Replaced rubber parts of fuel lines. Put a new fuel pump on last night. It cranks and runs at idle. This truck hasn't been run in about ten years. When I give it any gas it stumbles. I assume it is a carb issue (it has original rochester q-jet) . Clogged jets, accelerator pump etc. So I will probably just replace the carb. Now my question is whether I should go with a new carb holley/ebrock + adapter or should I just replace the Qjet with a rebuilt one. Once this thing is running I will get body work squared away. New exhaust. Replace suspension and replace front end steering, hubs, bearings, rotors etc. I will probably drop and replace the gas tank. Ujoints. Seals. Diff gaskets. The works. Anyways, long term this thing will probably end up with a crate motor in it if no major issues come up. I'm planning on buying one fully dressed with a carb so I'm not trying to spend alot of money on a carb now. But I want to be able to drive it until I can swap the motor. (We are talking a few years ballpark). My question is how big of a headache is a rebuilt q-jet? Ive hears different things some people say they are a boondoggle.
Hmmm, bullshit or not?https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bGGOUSrFW3Y
>>28747142hello fellow k10 anon. just rebuild the carb, it's ez.for a 4x4, the quadrajet can't be beat
>>28747142>>28747251reason being is that since it's a 4x4, it won't be e race truck and as such, the small fuel bowl won't be an issue. also being a 4x4 you could be driving at steep angles and so the centre fuel bowl won't run dry. holleys have issues with that.
>>28747251>>28747264Thanks. I am leaning that direction also. Another question I have is how best to handle the rust. All in all it is halfway decent based on what I've seen on these trucks. The worst place is the passenger floor panel and iPassenger inner rocker. Driver side is good. Outer rockers are good. Door corners are good. Cab corners are good. Cab support feels solid. The only other place is the bed floor panel itself. It has rust around the edges where it attaches to the rear fender panels. I'm not sure the best way to handle this. I'm not trying to cut out the whole bed floor and weld a new one in. The only other place is the inner fender wells which I am going to just replace with new ones anyways.
>>28747224its bullshit because if you leave scrap iron in your yard in mass some fucking old faggot will call the cops on you.
>>28747355hehe yeah i did that toowhat exactly do you want to know? for the floor you have to cut and weld. for the inner rocker you're going to have to cut 1,000,000 spot welds
>>28747396I think I can sort out the inner rocker the worst part is the seam right where the floor panel/seat hump area meets the inner rocker. My big question is options for addressing the bed floor. New bed floors aren't cheap. I've honestly considered cutting out the floor and welding about five cross members to the bottom of the bed body panels and laying some oak boards down on them and bolting them to the cross members and just weather treating them like marine decking.
>>28747251my quadrajet won't idle when it's warm, any ideas?
>>28747470yeah mine is a wood bed and i just bolted a piece of treated plywood kek>>28747476there's the high idle and the curb idle.without knowing anything - have you adjusted the curb idle?
>>28747142>how big of a headache is a rebuilt q-jet?Freiburger has talked about doin a rebuild videoIt's honestly easy if you start with a good donorHe already did a rebuild and tuning video for Holleyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnPZCwzgcpcDon't use an adapter though, sbc air gap intakes are dirt cheapAnd I am sure your lower intake manifold gaskets leak79 k20 "Ol Red" - RIP86 C30 "Dalmation" - Sold84 K30 "Redhead" - SoldSent from my iPhone 6 using Tapatalk
>>28747548is this gay porn?
>>28747548neat car. too bad about everything else in this photo lmao wtf
>>28747548I thought emo hair was out of fashion by 2012.
>>28747548Wtf, what was the thought process behind this photo?
>>28747489Yeah but the step side is more straight forward to deal with I'm curious about using boards on a fleet side idk that I've ever seen anyone do it. In my mind if I weld a few cross members between the body panels I should hbe able to just bolt slats down onto them. And that way the whole bed would still be one piece. It'd probably be about 2-3" shallower though. >>28747510Do you know anything about the quality of these National Carb rebuilt ones? Like I said though long term this motor will be swapped so I'm trying to be sort of cheap while it's running in the interim.
>>28747548>>28747571>>28747577>>28747659>>28747680Straightedge "Christian" kids are absolutely desperate to be cool and they never get it right. They never will either.
>>28746146That's sweet as hell anon. I'm jealous. How's the interior?
Bison Parisienne
>>28747548So this what 79 camero super charged guy looks like
215/70-14 Toyos acquired.I'm not sure I could have gone much bigger - there's really not much clearance between the back side of the tire and the strut.I'm so fucking close now to being able to drive this thing for real. I went to bend and install the new passenger rear final stretch brake like today and found out for SOME FUCKING REASON that section of brake line and ONLY that section has a larger fitting on the end that goes into the T fitting on the axle.So now I get to trash the $15 brake like I bent up and see if I can find a pre-flared one of the right length with the right fittings or I have to just commit and get a flaring tool.
>>28747843hehe cow
>>28747850Nah I probably weigh as much as those two guys combined
>>28748221https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEtF9gNecFI
For our resident Cannuck with the Parisienne...
>>28747701>Do you know anything about the quality of these National Carb rebuilt ones?all they do is:>clean with hot parts washer>install complete rebuild kit (not rejet)>turn screws back to factory setting>ship it the fuck outbuy a $30 rebuild kit and do it over a weekend
>>28748221so you look like them but wear big pants
>>28747489no, the car ran and drove years ago so i haven't adjusted anything, just cleaning it
>>28747854the wheel moves in/out and cambers a bit at full droop on those
>>28747548>>28747680they have to wait until the money is dropped off in clear sight
>>28748860ah well it sat with old fuel in it and your circuits are gummed up. will need to pull it apart and clean it.carburetors don't play well with modern fuels and dormancy
>>28749092>they have to wait until the money is dropped off in clear sightth-then what, anon?
>>28749890then they're free to gowhoever's dropping the money off must come alone. anyone tailing him will result in them showing up on documenting reality
>>28749902Oh fug
Welding table is now mobile, and it's got a little bit of storage.
Got the brake line issue sorted today - they didn't make a line with the fittings I needed. I had to buy a fitting, cut the end of the line off, install the correct fitting, and flare the line. The flare tool I bought is a fucking piece of shit and I was sure it wouldn't seal, but it doesn't seem to be leaking. I should have just bought the 4x more expensive flaring tool.Did a quick bleed on all four wheels and everything seems decent. I'll probably need to do a second round of bleeding but at least it's progress.If I get the coolant flush done tomorrow, it should be time for a test drive.
>>28749952The knock off of eastwood flaring tool is pretty nice. They're on amazon. Also Imperial brand stuff is pretty cheap on ebay.>it doesn't seem to be leakingwhatever gets it done
>>28749952>>28749958stomp as hard as you can on the pedal and hold it down for 30 secs. if there's no leaks you're good
>>28749961and if you think it might leak, just hold it down for maybe a second or two so you don't lose too much fluid. crank it down a bit tighter, clean up any fluid, and repeat till it stops leaking. then do the panic stomp and hold down for 30 secs.
dammit. got the am/fm antenna...and it's damaged. can see fissures in the fibreglass in the exact same spot where the carton appears to have taken a hit.
>>28747766Actually pretty good, someone put this aftermarket A/C in which it's winter so Im not entirely sure how well it works and seller said it needed a charge. There's a couple switches/knobs that I need to trace to figure out what they are, but I have a feeling they might have something to do with the 6x9s mounted to the back deck, just gotta figure out how to get power to the radio. aka just a bunch of little things wrong, but mostly there and complete.
Anyone have good classic junkyards on the east coast? Anywhere from North Carolina to New York would be great. Also no overpriced boomer I know what I got (as 90% of the car has already rusted away) would be preferred. If such places even exist anymore
LOW MILAGE MANUAL TRANSMISSION MINOR FRONT END DAMAGE AND A CLEAN TITLEPRICE IS FIRMI KNOW WHAT I GOTIF YOU VOTED FOR THE GUY I DON'T LIKE THEN YER A LIBEROL
>>28750516TASTEFULLY MODIFIED
>>28750250Very nice anon. Wish I'd been able to find something like this when I was looking. I'm sure you'll get it sorted in no time.Any plans for sourcing a transmission?
>>28750549>$70,000 IN MODS UNREPEATABLE OPPORTUNITY WOULD COST MORE THAN ASKING $$$ TO BUILD THIS BEAUT TODAY>$100,000 FIRM TURNS HEADS ENTRY TO ANY SHOW>YES ITS MOST EXPENSIVE IN COUNTRY BUT YOU COULDNT RECREATE THIS SPECIMEN FOR ASKING $$$ DON'T QUOTE ME KBB THIS IS NOT AVERAGE MODEL
I was set on throwing a 302 in the Zephyr, then the more I read about them I started coming around to th idea of a 347 stroker, but then if you're doing that the 351W is so robust I figured maybe I should do that instead. But it's at least 50lbs heavier than a 302/347 and I'm trying to keep the front of the car from getting too heavy.So now I'm all the way back around to the idea of dropping a junkyard LS 5.3 in it instead.
>>28750795351w is slightly harder to fit, you'll probably catch hell finding headers to fit, also the oil pan, you'll probably have oil pressure issues cornering with the 351 swap pans and may have to get one of those bigass sumped pans with the baffles.
>>28750819also the sway bar has to be spaced downand you will need a cowl hood or kmember spacersand probably a custom steering shafthowever it is the correct choice.
>>28750819>>28750824And then apparently an LS 5.3 is pretty much the same size as a 351W while being ~25lbs lighter than a 302 (and probably cheaper), but taller because of the size of the intake, which means it might have the same fitment issues as a 351W.So maybe I'm back to just going with a 302/347. I'm not trying to build for crazy power - I'll be very happy with 300-350 at the crank which is easily achievable with decent heads.Will the longer stroke of a 331/347 generate more vibration or put more stress on the engine? I'm going for reliability and drivability, not RPMs and peak power. The additional torque across the whole range seems nice with the 347 but I'm really not clear on the tradeoffs outside of strictly performance considerations.Man idk.
>>28750891>Will the longer stroke of a 331/347 generate more vibrationkindof depends on whether you go with internally balanced crank or not.the 50oz external never reall was that good, the 351w had a 28oz, ideally you get an internal and it should run pretty smooth
Small things feel good.
>>28750953I want smoov, as smoov as possible from idle all the way up.Maybe I just do a carefully built internally neutral balanced hydraulic roller 302 with really good heads. Should get me into that 300+ ish range I'm hoping for without, and be easy to fit.
yup, feels good owning another classic trugg
>>28751035i've got an efi truck cam in one of my foxbodies and honestly all it does putting the power that low and soon just makes it jolt harder, it'll weight transfer goosing around in parking lots.
>>28751035you will probably not make 300hp with a 302 just slapping on as-cast or cnc ported heads, you will probably have to raise the compression ratio to do it, maybe significantly.
>>28751001fugg that reminds me i need to stick a trickle charger on my battery, been sitting for so long while i've been wrenching on it and waiting for stuff to arrive.
>>28749914I went to Lowe’s the other day to get some metal for the shelf and struck out, sauce on that rack?
>>28751383>sauce on the rackI made it :)I started with a regular welding table from Harbor Freight, and that's just a frame of 1x1" angle with some expanded steel welded in with some casters on the bottom. To get it level, I loosened the leg bolts, put about 80lbs on it, and then torqued them down before welding the frame to the legs. I'm going to put another shelf in the middle, some pegboard, and a couple racks. Like this vidhttps://youtu.be/lCeY6TyUuAk>Lowe’s/Home DepotMetal is super expensive there. At my local place, it's about $14 for ten feet of 1x1" 1/8" angle and 99¢ per lb for remnants/drops. Apparently 99¢ is still pricey for scraps, but my other place charged me $2 per lb.
>>28750819You can modify LS swap headers to fit a 351. And use a crown vic pan available on rockauto for the swap. >>28750891An 6.0 makes the same power up to 3500rpm as a 350 SBC, don't waste the money on a DD. the fuel tanks for a injection style fuel pump got bought out of stock years ago, unless you want a surge tank setup stick to a carb. These cars are light enough a roller 302 will drive great
>>28749431It was pretty clean, I blew through all the holes in the bottom and wiped out the dirt. What am I missing
Got the new shocks in. Brakes don't appear to be leaking but I want to do another bleed now that it's sat for a couple of days.About to do the coolant flush, then I think it's time for a test drive.
>>28752036Yeah I think I'm settled on sticking with a SBF after doing more research. It's just going to make everything easier with fitment, accessory drive, integration, finding a transmission, etc and I don't have that much to gain from going to anything else for the tradeoffs given what I want.Now I have to decide if I want to stick with the 302 or go the 347 stroker route, and how to proceed. There's an absolute shitheap non-running fox body mustang for sale near me for ~1400 that appears to have a 302HO and T5 in it of unknown condition. I could probably talk them down to $1k or so, strip the motor and transmission out and pray I got lucky.Or I can save up for six months or so and buy a crate motor. Or I can spend entirely too much money and do a full build-up on a junkyard block. If I end up at 300+ HP, what I've read about T5s isn't super confidence inspiring and has me thinking about a TKX but that's also getting spendy. If money were no object, I think I'd go either NA 347 + TKX, or 302 with an On3 turbo kit and a TKX. That's an awful lot to spend on a shitheap car like this though so I might have to be sensible and dial it back to a ~250 NA 302 and a T5.
>>28752614you might want to bend the axle brake line closer to the camera, a bit more down so it's hugging the axle and better protected in the unlikely event an object snags on it. so basically when you're looking at the axle from the front of the car, the rest of the brake line between the tee and the wheel cylinder isn't visible. i might be overthinking it though. make sure you do the panic stop test i mentioned before. my fittings didn't leak when i put everything together, then when i went to test it the pedal just went straight to the floor and everything leaked lmao. you don't want to find out when you're coming up to a red light and have to HOLD OOOON
>>28752036>You can modify LS swap headers to fit a 351show me how nigga i fucking hate the header selection>>28752614in my experiance kybs are harsh riding on the fairmonts/mustangs, fine in the front but a bit shit int he back.
>>28752614I had KYBs in firebird and they were trash. The Bilsteins ride so much better
>>28751579I used the frame that came with it to make a second shelf. Holy BUCKETS, it was pain in the buns to get it to fit up.
Took it out for a test drive, then went and got a burger and picked up some groceries. Getting there. Brakes and suspension feel, well I'm not going to say good, but probably how they're supposed to feel for an old cheap pos car like this. It's all getting ripped out and replaced at some point in the next year hopefully anyway, I just needed it driveable. Coolant was fucking disgusting so I'm thinking I should get some flush chemicals and flush it again. Maybe even pull the thermostat for a look.It's so fucking gutless, but it gets up to speed eventually and rides pretty smoothly once it's there. Definitely needs a tune-up though - stumbles off idle, the idle is too low, had it stall a couple times on me. I'm going to order new spark plugs and make sure they're gapped correctly then go through all the carb adjustments. The transmission shifts through all gears no problem, but it's so eager to shift into third. Idk if the kick-down is working. Using the column-shift to force it into 1st or 2nd works fine though.The new tires definitely fill the wheel wells out better and I prefer the way the car sits on them, but it's probably also not helping how slow it feels off a stoplight. You just mash and wait.>>28752692>a bit more down so it's hugging the axle and better protectedGood suggestion, I'll do that for sure.I did the panic stop test and all looked good. I also took it for a lap around the neighborhood before I went out on any public streets, and did a panic stop - the front has enough bite to lock the front wheels, overall I have to assume the brakes are working about as well as the budget ass brakes that came on these cars ever did.>>28752804>>28752934>kybsWell they were super cheap and I needed to get something on there because the ones on the car I'm pretty sure were original 1981 factory and were btfo. They'll only be on the car until I swap the 8.8 rear into it along with the rest of the suspension mods I have in mind.
>>28753092while i hated how the kybs rode they never wore out and never started leaking, like they're pretty good quality for the price but just living with them sucks unless you have smooth roads.
>>28752934excel Gs or gas-a-just? Feedback on the latter seems to be a lot better than the excel Gs. Apparently the excel Gs are firmer than stock to compensate for old suspension components on the cars they're installed on
>>28750621First thought was just find a T5, but if I wan to move this boat I'm going to need some more pep out of the 302, which at that point that's where the stroker idea came from. Honestly just going to drive it as is for now and slowly save up. Looking at the receipts it looks like the 302 was rebuilt about 10 years ago so hoping it can last another year or two. If all else fails I'll save up for a TKX. I dont want to fuck with trying to source and then install a z bar and all that for a toploader. First prio still def the rear suspension. Shit just bounces around after bumps
>>28753092pic related (excuse the shit quality) was how the factory did the brake lines on my car, just as an idea. there was a bend at the wheel cylinder side to allow the axle u bolts to still be accessible.Great to hear that the brakes are all in good shape.>The new tires definitely fill the wheel wells out better and I prefer the way the car sits on them, but it's probably also not helping how slow it feels off a stoplight. You just mash and wait.for sure, heavier wheels will make a car feel sluggish. when i downsized from 19s to 16s on my camry it felt noticeably quicker to take off and also more nimble in turns. as a bonus it also improved fuel economy a bit too.
opinions on 2.125 true duals vs the 2.5 into 3" single im about to weld togethershould it make any more seat of the pants torque?picunrelated
>>28752624Damn dude Im literally going through the same back and forth for my Galaxie. Every time I tell myself Im sticking with a sbf I see some cheap ls pop up on marketplace or I think about chancing it with a junkyard/marketplace 302 block but don't want to get hosed. I'm hoping to find a wrecked or rusted out but running fox I can pull a motor out of and hopefully save up for a TKX instead of blowing up a T5 repeatedly. If you ever come to a conclusion I would love to hear it
>>28753147Single has more energy. Just size it correctly.
>>28753150I've decided I'm sticking with a SBF to avoid dealing with a bunch of other bullshit getting it properly integrated into the car. So now it's just down to whether I go 302 or 347 - I'm getting to a point where I'm so sick to death of dealing with prior owner retardation, and also sick of getting half assed work done by shops, that the idea of getting a marketplace or junkyard engine just makes me feel tired. Back when I got my first car, it felt easy to find a machine shop that would do genuinely good work, specialty shops to straighten and re-chrome bumpers, paint shops to match junkyard fenders etc. In 2025 it seems almost impossible. Every shop I've used in the last 8 years has fucked something up. Every contractor that has worked on my house I've had to micromanage. I'm getting old and cranky as fuck now and I don't want to deal with it.If I get the new job I've been interviewing for, I'm probably going to save up money for a year or so and just buy a crate motor and a new or refurb TKX. My life is getting too short to spend my time dealing with other peoples fuckups. If I had my own machine shop it would be a different story - it would be fun to take my time and meticulously go through a full build up. I don't though, so here we are. I like tinkering well enough, but I like driving more.
>>28753150>>28753205Like yeah, if I could spend $1k on this pile and somehow get lucky and it turns out the motor and transmission are solid I'd feel pretty smug. The chances of that happening are probably slim to none. Even if I do as much of the work as possible myself, I'll still need to buy tools and have certain things done by a machine shop where I'll be overcharged for questionable work. How much money would I really be saving in the long run, when a crate motor can come with a 30-50k mile warranty?
>>28753208What do you rate the chances of this transmission even being usable without repairs?
>>28752624I think you have to do some clearancing on the block with a 347. Also balancing. A 331 stoker, I believe you do not have to clearance the block. might need to double check that
>>28753210as long as the case isn't cracked, I wouldn't be too worried. and you can always get a gforce case. That would be a perfect donor. It's got all of the odds and ends that will butt fuck your wallet. You might not need any machining done on the engine.>crate motorI haven't priced anything out, but blueprint makes good stuff.
>>28753249I think that's true from what I've been looking at, but if I was rebuilding a motor I'd probably stick with a 302, build it with strong internals and a good head but a fairly mild cam, and then a couple years later maybe throw a On3 turbo kit on it like a shithead.If I go 347 it'll be an NA crate motor.>>28753254>blueprintSummit Racing has a sale on dressed long block 347s right now that's got me feeling some kinda way.>as long as the case isn't cracked, I wouldn't be too worriedI'll do some research on what fixing up a clapped T5 would cost and might call the guy with the fox body. It's all the random odds and ends that are pretty appealing about it.
>>28753269>fully dressed summit 347ooo niceThere's a very detailed rebuild series for the t5 on youtube, and it's super easy. I had a friend come over to rebuild his, and it only took us a few hours as first timers. We did have to use my harbor freight press and some snap ring pliers.
>>28752804you drill out the flange to match up to the studs in the head, lots of autists have realized the windsor and ls have the same bore spacing>>28752624you can get on car-part com and find a 1996 ford explorer engine with low kilometers, the accessories will fit, you'll need to set up the included alternator to work standalone and delete the oil cooler with a conversion stud, and buy an oil pan available on rockauto. honestly i would stick with the C4, a T5 is tough enough but not if someone else has already beat the piss out of it. You can get less beat to piss and tougher iterations of the T5 from 99-04 v6 mustangs, dont pay more than $150 for one. A 347 is starting to get into the territory of breaking a T5 and the rear axle.
>>28754044how does having the port match being fucking way off affect it?most ls headers are round wheras windsors are rectangular.
>>28754044>honestly i would stick with the C4The whole point of this car was to be fun, and I miss having a manual. I have to double check but I believe it has a C3 in it currently, not a C4. I'll definitely look into Explorer engines.>axleI have an 8.8 that I'll be prepping to go in the car along with the V8 when the time comes. That should be able to handle it.
>>28753092It's sitting an inch or two too low in the rear. Likely due to weak rear springs. When selecting an intake for the 302 keep in mind that the Fairmont hoodline is an inch lower than a Mustang.
>>28754257Yeah the rear springs definitely do not look like they're at their best. I'll be replacing them when I put the 8.8 in.Good heads up on the hoodline - I've been thinking about that for sure. Will have to try and keep everything relatively low profile.
>>28754257summit racing usually has the height of intakes listed and a holley with a drop-base is usually like 7" tall, give or take
third gen chargers are pretty affordable/marketplace/item/791206290558299
Does fiesta anon still post here?The Guy Who Designed The DeTomaso Pantera Also Designed The Best Ford You Could Buy In 1978 - The Autopian https://share.google/d5Aimj1qtFtYOTaTDI always that car. It should be a shitbox, but it's really not.
>>28742910Hell yeah, brother
>>28754939>It should be a shitbox, but it's really not.It is. You've just been psyopped into believing that shitboxes have to be shit cars.
>>28754073these cheap ass ls swap headers probably started off live as 351 swap headers and got a different flange welded on, just werks dont ask me how
>>28754915Too bad they look kinda lame compared to gen 2. Much like Vipers in fact.
dammit. anyone good with electrical? pic related, wired up my radio and high beam switch, both the radio battery/always on terminal and high beam switch take power from the same terminal on the the battery/always on circuit of the fuse box, there's also another wire going into the accessory feed for when the car is in accessory or ignition mode.The high beam switch just powers two relays that turn on all headlamps, it's a momentary switch so I can flash my brights quickly when needed, but for whatever reason it causes my radio to restart itself when I use it. The high beam foot switch doesn't have this problem, would two ISO relays really draw that much power to kill the radio? Should I run an inline capacitor no the radio circuit to stop this? Would moving the always on wire to another terminal on the same circuit fix this?
i think im going to have to buy an aftermarket k member to finish my 302 swap, i went back and looked at my photos, the passenger side motor mount basically sits on a flange, to lower that the inch i need, i'd be notching the crossmember to relocate it. I'm really starting to kick myself for not just buying and fixing a 4.6 car. ill find out why the engine is leaking coolant only while running and decide then if im keeping the 302 or using the lh6 as i originally planned. i never actually titled the envoy so its now tied up in the estate of a family member who died this year>>28754249ah yeah, a c3 would not be up to the task
Took the car to the auto parts store to pick up spark plugs yesterday. Got there, grabbed the plugs, threw them in the car, started it up - it died pulling out of the parking lot. Went to restart - absolutely nothing. Totally dead. Some guy helped me push it back into the parking lot, tried to jump me, no dice.Went back into O'Reilly, had them throw a tester on it. Battery shot. Bought a new one, fired up right away. Alternator is producing a little over 13v at idle which seems low to me but the idle also seems low which is probably why it keeps dying when I try to take off from a stop. Gapped and installed the new plugs today, cleaned and inspected the plug wires. Tested their resistance. They seem fine, so they stay. I turned the curb idle up a little bit so hopefully that solves the stalling issue, but it still has a stumble when getting on the gas from idle. I've run a little over a quarter tank of fresh fuel through it now and it's still happening. Not sure what's going on there but maybe I should just order a carb rebuild kit.Really coming along now. Oil seems seem to have stopped now that it's got fresh oil in it and I've driven it some. It's leaking transmission fluid from somewhere now though and it's getting in the catalytic converter shroud sometimes and smoking and smells like ass. I don't know if it's from the pan or something else. I'll probably drop the transmission pan soon and maybe change the filter and put a new gasket on.Not having a tach is so frustrating, I have no idea if the idle is in spec. Vacuum system seems to be fine so that's good. Sometime this week I'll attempt to check the timing to make sure it's set correctly.
>>28756572>Not having a tach is so frustrating, I have no idea if the idle is in specif you have a couple hundred bucks, the carb cheater lite is an afr, tach and vacuum gauge all in one
>>28756591cheaper to get a cup tach or just set it so that it's not lugging away from a stop
>>28756624didn't know that was what those were called, learn something new every day.if he wants to see vacuum and AFRs as well though i don't think you can get anything cheaper
>>28746146Always liked the look of the Galaxies, but the only landboat I have room for in my heart is my grandparents' VH Valiant that I've still yet to track downOld family friend had a Galaxie though, he kept it 100% stock and refused to get rid of the shitty 2 barrel carb or hockeystick exhaust
>>28756624>>28756591>>28756743I turned the idle up a bit so we'll see how it goes.In the short term, I'm probably going to get a cheap clip on inductive tach for tuning purposes. I'm very curious about the carb cheater, but installing it on the weird little 1 barrel Holley 1946 carb that's on this engine is something I don't fully understand how I'd do. Having AFAR and vacuum readings would be nice though.In the long term, I'm going to probably change out the entire instrument cluster when I do the engine swap.
>>28756851the lite kit is just gauges, no auto adjusting of air. you plumb the map sensor ideally into its own dedicated port on the intake, or splice into a brake booster, climate control hose or similar vacuum source etc. if present.
>>28756936Ah cool, useful but man the auto-tune stuff is the neatest thing about the carb cheater for sure. I wonder if there's a way I could get that working.I'm not sure about the O2 sensor plumbing though, because this car also has all the overly complicated emissions shit. Iirc the air injection pump injects air both directly into the exhaust manifold, as well as farther down just before the cat. That would throw its reading off. Maybe I can block off the manifold injection port and just install the O2 sensor before the later port.
I have a brake question, guys. While on a 60 mile drive today, my brake pedal suddenly had a lot more travel before getting firm. Then later on in the trip, my pedal went back to normal. The front port on the master cylinder looked a little wet, but my fluid level was the same as the last time I checked. Why? Air bubble? old fluid? That wet spot? Should I just flush the fluid and see what happens?
>>28757920it's worth noting that there will be an upgrade kit in the future for those that got the lite kit and want the auto tune capability. no ETA but it's definitely in the worksi think placing the o2 sensor upstream of any air pumps would be good
>>28758102>Air bubble? old fluid? That wet spot?Probably some combination, but it could be wet from an older spill do. You might have a minor leak somewhere, but if the fluid is old it could have water in it which will boil if it gets hot.I would get a can of brake cleaner, spray and wipe down all the brake fittings at the master cylinder and all four wheels, when go ahead and flush+bleed the brake system with new fluid (fresh unopened bottle). Then keep an eye on it for any signs of leaks.
>>28758199checkedRoger that, anon. Thanks
>>28758210easiest way to check for leaks is stomp the pedal hard as you can and hold it down for a second or two. then run around and check all fittings for fresh fluid on them.
>>28753128I had the excel-g shocks. My big problem was it seemed like they overheated quickly and got extremely wallowy after some spirited driving
>>28758238i completely forgot that shocks could overheat lol. in thwt case you might fare better with the gasajusts, assuming thry have them for your car and there's no bilsteins available.
>>28758214excellent, thanks.
>>28758281can you get some like RC car motor heatsinks and put them on your shocks?
>>28758861probably. dunno how effective that'd be. in competition and severe off road scenarios shocks can get hot enough to blue the chrome shaft or melt rubber seals
>>28759387so they're probably fine for a weekend at the track
>>28759536yeah probably. i guess the worst that can happen is that you put them on and they do nothing
>>28750027talk about serendipity. replacement arrived, went to install it, and the 5 metre long cable was the *perfect* length to run it down the left inner fender, across the front of the radiator alongside the headlight wiring, up the right inner fender, and through the firewall in a little grommet for the hvac vacuum controls. enough slack all the way along, while also not being too long to look messy. radio works and I couldn't be happier.now to wait on the stupid rear shock washers...I think the shipping company lost it fml. might just have to eat the cost and fork out for a full set.
>>28741875What a crazy ride.>Curb weight - 748 kg (1,649 lb)
>>28742045This car belongs in a museum, is the original paint?
>>28742252>drum brakes actually have more stopping power than discsI don't think so, brother.They look boss on hot rods but that's a 2200 lb car.
>>28742280You have a fox body, man, everything has already been figured out.
>>28742348
>>28760371they do. more surface area compared to a similar rotor and caliper of the same diameter, and the self-energising effect where the shoes push themselves even further into the drum. but heat quickly negates these.
found a th350 with a fresh rebuild with receipts and T/C for $850decent deal?
>>28760367As far as I can tell, yes. Same color all over the car and nothing else showing through on any of the chips or scratches.I think it has maybe had a bit of bodywork done in the past, on the drivers rear fender and maybe passenger door as well. A couple small dents but it's pretty clean. I need to source a rear bumper or find a good aluminum welder to fix the corrosion around the mounts.
>>28760627not bad. Does it have a warranty?
>>28761000no, it's been installed and driven a bit. seller says they're going with a 700R4. built by a local shop that's been in business 15 years. 5 stars on google. going to go see it in person when i get a chance
having a bitch of a time tuning the carb on this thing. first time messing with a new carb on a new build, think i have a plan of attack, want to run it by someone to make sure it makes sense.isky 280 mega cam on a 400 sbc, single plane intake, 2200rpm stall. pulling 13" of vacuum at 1000rpm idle. first 30 seconds after startup it runs like shit and my eyes sting from the exhaust fumes (seems super rich). then it stabilizes and i can warm it up, but when i put it in gear it runs, but barely, surging erratically from 500-850rpm at around 8".thinking i need to 1) crack the secondaries a bit to account for the low signal, then 2) lower the primary idle screw, then 3) put in a 3.5 power valve. i already adjusted the float bowls and put in a fuel pressure regulator, don't think that helped. it runs and drives great, timing is 12 initial, 36 total. shreds the tires through 2 gears. just won't idle for shit. thanks in advance.
>>28761314>surgingnot sure if you already checked, but I would look for a vacuum leak.
>>28761353i did look, only place there could be a vacuum leak is under the intake. it seems sealed well against the heads so that's probably not it, but one of my last ditch options.
>>28761314>280Way too high duration to ever get a smooth idle AFAIK.
>>28761366280 advertised, 232 at .050". really not too radical for 400ci. definitely not expecting a smooth idle, should be lopey, but it shouldn't surge like this.
>>28761314>>28761366may have to set it at 900rpm to make it act right
>>28761840i'll figure it out, i want to get it down to at least 750 in gear. when i bought the car it had a 383 with a bigger cam in it that idled fine at around there. i'm actually going to put that carb on it today to see if that solves it, if it does then i can go from there tuning the new one.
>>28762133>i want to get it down to at least 750 in gearbet a dollar it don't want it.
>>28762173you're on
Any suggestions for how I'm supposed to get this trunk spring bar installed correctly? One of the two was out when I got the car and I'm at a loss on how to get it back on.
>>28761366idle really doesnt care about anything but lobe separation, throw a good turbo cam in there and you wouldnt know it had a cam in it
>>28762462what car? how does the bar that's already in hook on the other end?this vid is for a 67-70 mustang but might give you an idea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcWw41MlPcA
>>28762475>what car81 Zephyr >>28742045It looks the same as on the fox body mustangs.>how is in installed in the other sideI can't take a pic right now but on the pictured end, it slips into a hole on the trunk support/hinge, and on the other side it hooks into one of three hooks that I'm guessing is for adjusting the tension.
Let's settle this /ccg/https://strawpoll.com/NMnQNb1G0g6
>>28762511For me it's KITT
>>28762493>and on the other side it hooks into one of three hooks that I'm guessing is for adjusting the tensionsounds almost exactly like in the video i linked. he used a tool made for that though which they apparently still sellhttps://secure.cougarpartscatalog.com/trunktool2.htmlbut i dunno if that'll be suitable for your car.something similar happened with my dodge's hood torsion bars. the outside popped off and the roller on the end shot out like a fucking bullet. felt it clip my shirt sleeve right under my armpit...whew.Anyway, I used an adjustable wrench that had a hole in the end that i could then stick a 3/8" extension bar through. wrench clamped on bar as close to the roller as possible, then twisted the extension bar until I got it back in place, was surprisingly easy.dunno if you can get a bit of steel water pipe or something to slip over the end of the bar for extra leverage to then stick it in place on one of the three hooks
Fuck yea, brakes are good. Can't really feel when they bite, but they bite plenty good. Can lock up the wheels just crawling around the neighbourhood lol.Kickdown linkage seems adjusted properly, shifts well and doesn't seem to slip but I might extend it a bit further. WOT kick down also worked great, that was pretty fun.Bled the power steering by jacking up the front then turning the wheels left and right five times in each direction with the engine running, but still seems to get very tight when nearly stationary, and i don't think it's just because the wheels aren't moving either, not sure what's going on there.Speedometer stopped working again...definitely need to check that out later when it's cooler because I put in a new cable...Inside rear view mirror kept falling down, might need to tighten the screw further since I already added a rubber o-ring to the ball joint to reduce movement, that wasn't enough apparently.
>>28762651very nice
>>28762741thanks :Dso happy that it's (mostly) drivable, but also still pretty nervous because i'm paranoid something's just gonna suddenly break. went for some test drives round the block and saw a girl in an oncoming crv grinning at me as i drove past her lolintermittent power steering was fixed by really tightening the belt. turns out you need to apply 40 ft lb of force to the PS pump bracket to actually tighten it properly. The engineers thankfully made a hole for a 1/2" square drive in the bracket so I could use a breaker bar to give it the tension it needed.one of the o-rings i stuffed in the mirror's socket was crushed flat so I fucked that off, replaced it with another then cranked the plate down as far as it'd go, seems to be holding up.still waiting on the rear shock bushing washers though. that's really the only thing holding up taking it to the exhaust shop. Once I can install the rear shocks then I'll tighten up all the suspension nuts and bolts.radio works great, the dash speaker is surprisingly good for a dash speaker.i think the speedo not working is because i might've cut the cable a bit too short; nothing is binding up thankfully. but still, fml. readjusted it and gonna see tomorrow if that fixes it.
this is the first time ive ever seen people talk about actual wrenching on this board
>>28763169buy yourself a classic and join the fray in this general.
>>28763030>still pretty nervous because i'm paranoid something's just gonna suddenly breakThat will go away, but also it will never go away :)
>>28763169everything went downhill after classic toyota general died lol
>>28763030>readjusted it and gonna see tomorrow if that fixes it.yeeeeesssssssssssssss the speedo fucking worksradio still turns off when i turn on the high beams either by the push button switch or the foot toggle switch. seems like the current draw is just too much rip.Hopefully (but unlikely) the exhaust shop is open next saturday or something so i can finally register it...
>>28762511Fuck you, first gen for life
>>28764186hehe excellent
>>28763509the anime to wrenching pipeline has dried up, someone should shill initial d to the masses again
>>28762511I like the first two, but the rounded one at the bottom looks retarded
>>28762511I think the 2nd generation is iconic, and my favorite. The turd gens look good though.>>28765038There's really not that much difference between #2 and #3.
>>28763509I miss toyota general, but /ccg/ has always had a solid group of guys.
>>28762511never really been into trans ams but it's definitely the 2nd gen for me
im having a bit of a debacle here. if i want to make a rollcage for the camaro to go to lemons, i need a expensive tube bender for 2" tube, the cars also not going to be great to put a bunch of reckless kids in. The mustang went off the rails since i decided not to LS swap it and i dont even know if the 302 i bought is junk or not, but the car is now thoroughly setup for a carburetor, its within the lemons budget, its light enough to use a much cheaper tube bender with 1.75" tube, and i could bolt in a 2.3/T5 which has a superb track record and wont get us into trouble, BUT, i would be giving up and buying a regular GT to daily at $2500-4000. That GT could be a 2v or the ztard's '85.
>>28753205It’s because all you boomers replaced us with Mexicans. I wouldn’t have happily been a contractor but there is no point if everyone is tripping over themselves to hire illegal for 40% off. And that’s double for mechanics. I actually have a black mechanic that I use because he’s 100x better than “yes we can do that” and then have to get a trailer to drag it off their lot, 3 months later.
>>28766389>It’s because all you boomers replaced us with MexicansFuck you nigger I'm in my mid-30s, every contractor I've hired or mechanic has been from a licensed company or supposedly reputable shop and they still suck. There's no shortage of retarded, garbage, piece of shit white trash contractors out there. People want to hire cut rate Mexicans because they get the same garbage work for less money.
>>28767387chrysler's muscle car swan song
>>28767553muscle car era* i should say.
could you convert a toploader to hydraulic clutch using t56 parts? looks like the throwout bearing would fit, does someone make conversion brackets to mount a slave cylinder?
>>28767553>>28767555trips
>>28769653Fucking based. This is why I'll never lower my car.
>>28769800checkedI like both depending on what it is. A race car sucked down to the ground like damn hoover vacuum cleaner is sick. That being said, ground clearance and suspension travel make way more sense on a daily because we don't commute on a race track. My old car is jacked up in the rear, and I'll be raising it up in the front a little bit.
>>28769830i like a mild positive rake on my cars with a stock ride height or even a bit lifted. Hoping to be able to get a positive rake going on mine but with the 50 year old springs in the rear, if i lower the front torsion bars it might be too soft.
>>28741920The kit is dope as fuck. It’s the shiznit.Thank you millennoomer for this sweet take. Woot.
>>28764186fuuug. rear leaf springs might need to be replaced, noticing the right side is lower than the left. and i haven't even measured it with a full tank of fuel yet either. factory specs say if there's more than 3/4 inch difference in height on either side between the rebound bumper on the frame and the top of the axle housing, then one of the springs will need to be replaced
>>28769830I think it stops being cool when it starts dragging the pipes on the ground.
>>28769830desu I just don't think race cars are cool. I like cruising and hooning, I like a car you can live with. Bare-bones stripped down, uncomfortable, prepped surface race cars are just too limited and single-context.I like a car I can drive to work in, get a burger and fries in, go on a road trip in, bomb down a dirt road in, then hit the touge in.Race cars have their place, but I'm pretty monogamous and I want a car I can form a full time bond with. Not one that is a chore to drag out every time I want to do a track day.
>>28769856>if i lower the front torsion bars it might be too soft.same. mine are way too soft >>28770217I get it. That would drive me nuts. That car in the pic was specifically built for the last race in Irwindale.>>28770444checkedI think I understand what you're saying. I'm setting my vehicles up to fit the category of "badass daily" or what I think that would be. That includes being able to hit dips and speedbumps without having to slow down to 5mph. In recent years, I've been hit with the desire to drive something "nice." I'll be doing up the interior in my old Toyota and even, dare I say, painting it. And in my old Dodge, I'm keeping the bench seat.
Also somewhat unrelated, but I don't really like Ken Block's Hoonicorn and Hoonitruck. They're incredible machines, but they're so modified that they aren't a Mustang or F series pickup anymore. I don't know where I draw the line, but it's somewhere before full tube chassis and hanging fiberglass skins.
>>28770762dunno what car you got, but for the c bodies at least, it seems like people love the 1.06" bars that the cop cars had. firmer than standard but not so firm as to be jarring. you can go 1.12" and even higher but that's getting into track car territory.>>28770765i honestly think a cop car kind of look/approach is perfect. it's built for things like jumping curbs, but also still being comfy enough to daily.might be worth looking at the FSM and seeing what diameter bars yours are. Mine are 0.94" for the big blocks, but cop cars, small blocks, 426s and 440s all got 0.98" bars. Yet that still wasn't firm enough for many people, because a lot of them went to 1.06" and find that perfect. But again, those are C body barges. May be worth seeing what people with your car went with.
>>28770762>That includes being able to hit dips and speedbumps without having to slow down to 5mph. In recent years, I've been hit with the desire to drive something "nice.">>28771114>i honestly think a cop car kind of look/approach is perfect. it's built for things like jumping curbs, but also still being comfy enough to daily.Between this two posts it kind of nails what I'm looking for. I want to be able to go full throttle over a speed bump, and still be comfortable daily-driving it. I know that means sacrifices when it comes to absolute track performance, but I'm never going to race. I would like to take the car to a track day or three though just to really get to know it and how it behaves when it's being pushed - I'll guaranteed be in C/Novice group and I'm ok with that.
>>28770765Ken Block was a massive manchild douchebag and I never gave a shit about him or any similar dudebro manchildren California has managed to produce in the last 40 years.
>>28771997the whole slow car fast thing is very real; a full blown race car is lots of fun, but pushing a regular car to do shit it was never designed for is some of the most fun you can ever have behind the wheel
>>28772059Good luck explaining it to these retards.
>>28771114A body. I'll probably snag some torsion bars from Bergman eventually. Maybe Sway-A-Way, but their customer service kind of pissed me off when I was trying to get bars for my Toyota.>>28771997>Between this two posts it kind of nails what I'm looking for. I want to be able to go full throttle over a speed bump, and still be comfortable daily-driving itThat's what I'm doing with my Toyota. I don't corner carve, and it actually rides really nice for what it is. I don't have to slow down for much. As much as I would like Total Chaos long travel and deaver leaves in the rear, I just can't justify close to $10k in suspension work for a truck I don't plan on racing or putting a cage in. I'll be extending the front control arms to use T100 axles, putting bilstein 5100s all around, chevy 63 spring swap in the rear, and I have a V8 and 5 speed sitting in the garage waiting to go in. The total I'll have in suspension will end up being maybe $2500. It'll probably be a while though. I'm slow at doing things.
>>28772059>>28772117>>28772246Hell yeah brother. As much fun as I had with my race-prepped XSR900 on the track, in the end I found I liked canyon carving on my CB1100 more. It's heavier with less power, has a more dated suspension and engine, and less sporty ergos. Those photos are the perfect example of what I'm trying to achieve with my Zephyr. I had a donor fox body lined up to buy to get a T5+302HO and all the bits out of, and the seller backed out at the last minute and decided not to sell it so I'm back on the hunt.Meanwhile, its got an ATF leak and I'm not 100% sure where it's coming from, but I'm going to order a new gasket+filter and just go ahead and replace them and see if that solves it. Going to order a carb rebuild kit too.
picked up the th350 for $725. it was at an auto shop. the owner of the shop had it rebuilt and had it in his truck for a year before upgrading to a 700r4
>>28772059Literal cope
>>28772326good luck
>>28772306>As much fun as I had with my race-prepped XSR900 on the track, in the end I found I liked canyon carving on my CB1100 morehighly based>>28772326noice
Wish there was was a dirt oval nearbyhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/5c5DfEzgITY
>>28772429i shredded ur moms dirt ovalHAHA GOTEM
>>28772349you're a big guy
>>28772246might be worth looking at firm feel. not cheap, but their stuff is really good, and they don't try to upsell you shit when you ask them for advice on what to pick too.
>>28772464More like a tiny guy who couldn't reach the pedals, so Mini it is.
>>28772725newfag
Interesting fact of the day: The Dodge viper first gen did in fact have blinker fluid within the front light housings
Me?Ill post my shitty 125cc in this thread as dbt told me toBig brain move complaining mods aren't happy then making me post in 7 different fucking threads
>>28772807Also 2nd gen.
>>28772782You expected some lame "for you" comment for 9001th time again? Riveting.
>>28772837Stick to the right thread lad.DBT literally made a Learner Bike Thread, just for you people
Our thoughts https://youtube.com/shorts/dyf0tLvJno4?si=a0ErvflK_8Q8KiW_
There is hope for everyone https://youtube.com/shorts/53tO7WABW54?si=WBLP9V-fZZnKQZhF
>>28772864shut up, newfaggot.
>>28772927So yes. Sad.
>>28772978
>>28773017>>28773019Ooh, touchy. Such a dandelion.
>>28773028>tfw nobody ever calls me a dandelion>>28773019nice
I have come to a decisionI will sell my 1982 golf
>>28772725for you
Any of you guys familiar with AMC?
>>28773088Arthrogryposis Multiplex Congenita? Yeah, sounds nasty.
>>28773088More than I'd like to be but not enough as I need to be.
>>28773219My buddy wants to give me a 68 javelin basically for free. I don’t know jack about AMC. I’ve been doing some preliminary research into basic maintenance and repair parts like drums/shoes and brake hydraulics. It’s a 290 automatic. Biggest hurdle right now is he thinks he left the keys back in Texas. Google seems to think 68 doesn’t have a steering column lock though so if that’s true the. It’s not too big of a deal to just swap in some generic ignition switch
>>28773241I'm not sure if mine has a lock [it's a 68 too so it's probably the same steering parts] but it's stored at work and can't get to it to check for you. Some parts are a little harder to pin down for the 290/343/390 compared to the '71 and up 304/360/401 but still mostly available/interchangeable.The thing that''s keeping me from driving mine is the front main seal needs replacing. Looks like it has been for a while [PO conveniently left pictures of the underside of the engine out of the ad I bought it from]. It's a pain compared to the later V8s since the whole timing cover has to come off to change it.>basically for freeMight be worth a shot if it's in anywhere decent condition
>>28773241>steering column lockWasn't a US *requirement* until '70. Doesn't mean AMC couldn't have introduced early but I doubt it.Further, a search of pics finds that the '68 Javelin ignition switch is located just as in the pic.
>>28773652>>28773241Wow that's a pretty cool interior.Take it OP - I'm sure you can get most of the basic maintenance parts and if not there are probably conversion kits. The Javelins have a bit of a following AFAIK, so there are probably some decent forums too.For the engine, I'm sure there's some decently well documented common swaps if it comes to that.
>>28773553From what I remember it needs a left fender, and Also it hasn’t ran in years so probably will need everything gone through. He’s adamant I should swap my whole Camaro power train into it but I’m highly skeptical >>28773652Bitchin, at least that’s a plus
>>28773088>>28773241I've always wanted a 68 Jav and a Gremlin X
>>28772681>firm feelI totally forgot about them. I have one of their steering boxes in my car right now. I'll have to check out their bars.
>>28773816which stage did you get? i got stage two and honestly i think it's a bit more effort than i was expecting, although i suspect it's more because i've just been driving a new camry for so long now that i've forgotten what it's like to steer on a 90s hydraulic rack and pinion setup; i only vaguely remember that that required more effort but got much more feedback through the wheel. I'll probably get used to it once i start driving it more.have you ever tried a borgeson steering box? supposedly that is even better than the firm feel upgrades and is reportedly as close as you can get to hydraulic rack and pinion.firm feel has almost everything suspension and steering related for classic mopars, if i had a stupid amount of disposable income i'd splurge and buy all their shit lol.Might also be worth contacting espo springs and things, they no longer make new leaf springs because they're getting old and it's getting more expensive to get raw stock to make them, but they might still have inventory or something. Husband and wife team iirc, Laura handles the customer service side of things and she really knows her shit.
>>28773830>which stage did you getI'll have to dig through my emails to see if I can find an invoice. It's been forever, and my project is stalled and on jackstands. Looks like I also got the Stage II box. I don't even know if I've driven it with that box in. >BorgesonNah, I've never used any of their stuff.>Espo SpringsI'll check them out. Though, I already have a fresh set of super stock springs in the rear.
>>28773862oops i kinda forgot that you were looking at torsion bars, espo don't do them. just leaf and coil springs
>>28773737>He’s adamant I should swap my whole Camaro power train into it but I’m highly skepticalWhy not? Nothin' special about an AMC 290 and if your Chevy stuff is hotter then may as well use it. It's already got a bastard mix of GM and Ford under the hood anyway, just take a bit of fabbing. Plus it's not likely to ever see Barrett-Jackson or Pebble Beach.
>>28773652Why kit car companies can't put an interior into their cars like this? This is some basic bitch 0 effort ass shit and it looks a million times better than a sheet metal gauge pod
>>28774060Mostly because my buddy, though I love the guy, is a known “big game talker”. I do have some basic fan skills and tools but he was making it out to be like the 500$ and an afternoon LS meme. It’s the same old supercharged 350 I’ve been posting for a decade
>>28774090the art of vinyl wrapped foam has been lost to the sands of time
What process should I use to flush the transmission cooler in my radiator?
Well after trying to buy a couple of donors and dealing with flaky sellers, I'm getting pretty fucking over it. Dealing with random assholes has always been the worst part of doing anything with cars/bikes so unless something really good comes along I'm just going to plan on saving up and going the high cost, no compromise route and accepting that I will spend way too much and will have zero chance of ever getting my money back out of it if I decide to sell.Current plan is:>Blueprint Engines 361hp crate motor>Holley sniper EFI>Serpentine belt accessory train>New/used TKX>Hydraulic clutch>Full MM suspension kit>S95 Cobra rotors and calipers>15" 5 lug wheels / axles / spindles>1979 NOS Mustang 6-guage dash bezel, reproduction "hump" dash pad, >Dakota Digital or NVUSA programmable gauge clusterI will buy everything over the next year or so and then put it all together.
>>28774539i guess you could stick a funnel into one hose then route the outlet hose into a bucket. if it's got hard lines though that's gonna be a challenge.else pop the outlet line into a container, take out the filler dipstick, funnel on it and get the atf ready. start the engine and pour in atf as it comes out.
>>28769653Why do lifted shitboxes make my peepee feel funny?
>>28774788now that i'm thinking about it more, I might try to adapt my fluid transfer pump. The old transmission basically just wore out and started slipping in reverse. Should i flush it with solvent, and then ATF?
>>28774825i think flushing with just atf is fine, no solvent
>>28774190Just drop the javelin body onto your camero chassis and you’ll be done a lot faster.
>>28741875haven't done pretty much anything on my car (85 grand marquis) for weeks because I've been busy and stressed.I did remove the B pillar interior trim. It's cracking and has holes/crumbling parts. I tried to 3d scan it so I could get a 3d model, and my plan was to use software to repair the 3d model, and then 3d print a replacement trim piece.But I got stuck with the software and I'm going out of town so I have to give up for now.I decided I should run the car for a bit before I'm gone for about a month, even though when I thought back I probably haven't started it in a month anyway. It started right up, and normally it dies if I don't give it some gas for a bit after starting, but this time it ran fine without doing that, I'm not sure why. But it was nice.
Why exactly do people talk shit about these cars? From what I've gathered, they're not that well liked amongst corvette enthusiasts for some reason.
>>28775724The early ones were driven by astronauts and test pilots but by the late 70's the overly hairy swarthy type in a loud polyester shirt with too many gold nugget chains stereotype was firmly established so that probably it.
>>28775778there was a war between disco and metal at that time. it was probably metalheads that drove the vette
>>28775724I sure love mine. Those people can fuck off.
>>28775778So you're saying that it's a societal issue more than anything else? I've heard complaints about the performance too, but I'm not sure if those were about the C3 or the C2. Personally I think the C3 looks sweet as hell and if I had 15 grand on hand right now, I'd buy one instantly and I hate american cars.
>>28775787metalheads were driving camaros mostly.
Prog chads drive Vettes.
>>28775213I started the tear down process and I’m getting serious cold feet. Even if I keep all my go fast parts and sell/scrap the body just the amount of work I have into this car I almost just wish I had sold it as is to someone who could enjoy it.
>>28775874are you too far in to just put it back together and do that?
>>28775887Not really no. I’m Also off this whole week though so I could probably finish taking it apart this week completely. So I’m in kind of a shitty spot.
>>28741875>knock side view mirror off on light pole while staring at ass>order replacement, fix it>feel on top of the world was the most fun I’ve had doing anything in a long time, have flashback to when I was 15 and replaced the light in my moms car and had the same feeling>take interest in cars suddenly>want to get project carI don’t have the space. I want to get an old Z to fix up. Even if it just ends up being a 280z rebuilt to look more like a 240 with the innards of newer z cars or even a civic I would love that. Where do I keep it? Am I able to rent storage space to keep a car to work on somewhere? What does that generally run?
>>28775896if it were me i would try to list it whole and see if you get any interest, then if you haven't sold it after a month or two then pick it apart. but i don't know how strict your timeline is.
>>28775905Pretty strict because I also anticipate having to do work on other cars in the next few months so I either need to sell it this week or take it apart next week. I’m gonna finish what I started, fuck it. I got a garage full of tools, a huge shed to store everything in, and the skills to do it. One day I’ll put it back the drivetrain into something else worthwhile and I’ll enjoy the fuck out of it. My only worry now is my efi shit rotting out since it won’t be running for a while. Maybe I’ll run the motor on a stand or something
>>28775922something tells me you're going to regret this.
>>28775900Having a project is extremely satisfying, as long as you understand it will be a huge investment of not just money but time, and that you have to genuinely enjoy the time you spend working on it for it to be worth it.>Am I able to rent storage space to keep a car to work on somewhere?You can always get a 1-car garage sized storage unit, rates I'm sure vary wildly depending on location, but around me they run $80-200 a month which really adds up. Having a project car without having a space for it at home usually means you'll never get any work done on it unless you're really good about setting time aside to go spend on it on a regular basis.
>>28775243Very nice boat anon. I used to have a same gen LTD Crown Vic. Honestly should have kept it but I blew a head gasket and just didn't have the time, tools, or space to fix it myself at the time or the money to have a shop do it.
>>28775972To some extent I will always regret this, however it’s also proving to be extremely cathartic, for example I just fought the stupid ass AIR injection headers and the reducers and adapters for the EFE flap and I’m smiling thinking about how I’ll never have to deal with that ever again. Hell I might even go open headers on my next project fuck it. A lot of things are also pretty sentimental just in terms of where I was in my life when I did certain steps. One being my electric fans. I homebrewed a harness with breakers on the power supply side to OEM Chevy fans from a 4th gen, relays controlled by the EFI on the ground side. I rmemeber exactly where I was career wise when I drew that up.
