My mom is getting old and her driving is starting to fall off. Is a car with FSD the answer? Do any of you use it or have tried the latest version?
Taking away her keys, and not letting her drive is the answer.
>>28743416Wow, thanks, tough guy. So insightful.
>>28743408i've been in the car with women that tried to ram the cars in front of them only for the automatic stop to save us. more than once. i bet it's a good idea to at least have some of those modern safety features in her case. never dealt with fsd so my experience ends there.
>>28743426That's kind of what I'm thinking. Like maybe fsd is good and as it gets better it can make up for her declining abilities.
>>28743428yeah i can confirm at least the auto stop and lane keep assist work in the real world. idk if these cars can prevent you from merging into someone or hitting a pedestrian but stuff like the blind spot monitor and 360 backup view could at least be pretty helpful if someone is lacking in attention and somewhat trusting of the car. again, not fsd but the new driver assists, while maybe not useful for good drivers, could be very useful who might be declining mentally or was never good at driving to begin with.
>>28743442Modern driver assists are great and all, but they can only do so much when the person can barely see, hear, and lacks the strength to turn the wheel more than a few degrees
Perhaps I wasn't clear about what "starting to fall off" meant. She can still pass a driving test and can drive a car OK. But not as good as before.It isn't like she's a 120 year old basket case.
>>28743453those people shouldn't be out on their own. FSD isn't going to help them.
>>28743457It goes a lot faster than you'd think at that age, anon. It's scary how much can change even in a year.
Go to your nearest Tesla center and take a FSD demo. Preferably have her sit behind the wheel. The latest version of Tesla FSD is better than human drivers. You can literally "drive" the car from A to B and back without ever having to actually touch the wheel or pedals. You can summon it, it will pull out of its parking spot, drive itself to you, drive you to whatever destination you plug into the nav system, find a parking spot and pull itself into it. Lather, rinse, repeat. Right now, all you have to do is keep your eyes on the road. In a year or two you won't even have to do that. It's like having an invisible chauffeur.
>>28743419He's right. FSD is not, and is just a recipe for killing your mom. If you're going to just throw money at the problem, then get her a driver.
>>28743502>then get her a driverThat's the ideaA driver with 6 billion miles of experience My only question is, is this shit for real?>>28743499Good idea, will do.
>>28743516>My only question is, is this shit for real?I had an uber driver (white lad) take me to downtown Chicago for a nice dinner, he used FSD the entire way (highway and inner-city) and it didn't struggle. What impressed me was that there was construction in my neighborhood and also people moving into a house (they had a big moving van blocking the right side of the road), and it navigated that extremely well.For your situation I think it's perfect. Also legally, she won't be culpable if the thing fucks up.
>>28743499>>28743516>>28743549Do the demo with your mom like this guy said. Have it take you to get ice cream or some crap. You'll know right away if it's going to work for her or not.
>>28743516not that anon, but talk to chat gpt. it has all the experience of the internet and will still just straight up tell you things no human would ever say. It doesn't even need cameras and lidar that can barely fool human eyes, it can just hear what we say online and it is consistently wrong. Robots are bad at learning, humans are very good. Why do you think we need trillions of dollars of gpus and new dams on rivers to make them smarter? Any car your mom has will not approach one percent of an already inaccurate machine. They don't have server banks and hydroelectric powerplants to power them. Go for the simple driver assists and when FSD can learn as fast as yourself can, spring for that. It probably won't happen. This is a false equivalency you are bringing up. By your metrics, the voyager spacecraft are the smartest things in the universe. I don't think you should be surprised the one selling you the AI is telling you it is safe, why can't you, family, an uber, or literally anyone else drive her?Driver assists will help because she can still drive a car. FSD won't be smarter than her until she and yourself are gone. There is a huge difference here and I would go for driver assists and inherently safe cars over tech hype nonsense that is not even commercially proven yet.
>>28743549No shit? I imagined it needs supervision because it is prone to fuckups.
>>28743516I don't want my mom to die burning to death in a tesla cause the doors won't open
No, but driving assists are pretty nice. Just get a base model shitbox and add the package for the assists. I had to get the camera assists package to get the 4k tow pkg on my Maverick, and it has the emergency collision avoidance & braking, blindspot warning mirrors, reverse cam + sensors with collision avoidance, and lane keeping. Everything can be toggled on/off and some have sensitivity.Lane keeping alone is very unobtrusive but has forced me to keep the lane when I've reached for something and veered a bit, it's there when you slip up and do something dumb. People have joked that the car has FSD because you can just turn lane keeping sensitivity to high, turn on radar cruise control then peace out.
>>28743592I've rented a car with assists and it felt like it was driving drunk. Super sloppy at keeping the car between the lines.
>>28743606I'd assume my 2025 has more refined lane keeping than one from 10 years ago, if that's your point of reference. I had all my family members try it out that were shit talking the lane keeping and they were like "oh, it's almost nothing", you can feel a small nudge or tightness in the steering wheel when it's in effect, it doesn't seem off because your hand is feeling it, as if driving on the line is driving on raised slanted part of the road. Never noticed it actually changing lanes or doing anything purposely yet (but I assume it turns off when you signal).
>>28743408I love FSD, as a hobby I get in front of them and then slam on the brakes.
>>28743617Sure, Jan.
I went on that FSD demo with mom today and holy fucking shit. Mind = blown.>go to tesla dealer/service center>talk to sales guy>fsd demo? Sure, np.>walk over to front door, sales dude summons a car>car pulls out of parking space, drives itself through the parking lot and comes to the curb in front of us>get in>brief how to presentation>plugs in destination, HS on other side of town>car proceeds to smoothly drive us out the parking lot, merge into traffic, drive us through a construction zone, pedestrians, etc>pulls itself into high school>picks a parking spot and pulls itself into it>select destination, back to Tesla>take different route through neighborhoods>car pulls itself out of spot, through lot, merges into traffic, drives itself back home, crosses a busy 4 lane state road by itself gets back to Tesla, selects a parking spot and parks itself>the entire time my mom is sitting behind the wheel, never even touched the pedals or wheel, not even once.>the car literally drove itself the entire time>and it didn't feel sketchy or unsafe, it was like having a very calm and cool driver at the wheel the whole timeThe whole thing was fucking slick as hell.
>>28745645We are reaching a future where oldsters with dementia are going to self drive themselves to random ass places and cause all sorts of problems
>>28745645yeah it's pretty cool in person, I think people don't realize how far it's come in the past 5 years.
>>28745773I walked out of there wanting a Tesla but I need a truck for work and the Cybertruck is such a giant ugly thing. If they made a normal truck or van I would have gone home and ordered one that day.I mean, it looks like "punch in a destination and take a nap while the car transports you" is a year or two away at most, and brother, I need sleep.
>>28743408I have three friends who have it in their Teslas - one says they only use it for highway and it is AMAZING at that, changes lanes, keeps speed, etc....Another says they don't, but if they did, it would be perfect for drunk driving because it wouldn't hit anything.The other one said they doubted it until a deer jumped out in front of them, and it picked up which way the deer was driving and used that info to miss the deer.So the only question is do you think you can teach your mom how to use it, and do you think she would actually trust it enough to use it.
>>28745837Yes, she can manage the basics on a smartphone and once you set up the seats and mirrors, all you really need to do is figure out how to input a destination into the GPS and press go.Really, the basics. Operate the GPS, set the climate controls, shift into drive, park or reverse if necessary. I think the only knock on the design I could see is that it is so different from a normal car. There really should be dials and switches for some things and not everything on a touchscreen.
>>28745837>and it picked up which way the deer was drivingWhat was the deer driving? Was it at least something cool?
>>28745837And she sat there the whole test drive and didn't freak out once. She just said it was "surreal" so I don't think trust is an issue.
>>28745849He looked like he had a huge box of condoms, so your moms house most likely?
>>28745853>>28745847Well talk with her - does she want it, would she trust it? Frame it more as an ease thing than a 'hey you are getting old and can''t do this anymore' thing.
>>28745867Shit, deer drive houses where you're at? Over here they just drive riced out civics.
>>28745871He was riding urmum so literally driving a double wide trailer p much
>>28745869I think she's going to get one, direct quote "this is a godsend for old people like me."
>>28745899>>28745869It sounds like his mom isn't coping about her driving skills going down and probably likes going places but doesn't want to have to actually be >DUDE DRIVING, LMAOwhich honestly, by the time I'm in my 60s or 70s, will probably be the case with me also and I'll be enjoying my FSD whatever future fag car.
>>28746053Exactly.
>>28743408Yes. Subscription FSD for $99/m is pretty good. Its only $3/day of basically a taxi service on your car.
>>28746905Cheaper than daily coffee
>your mother's driving skills are diminishing>better get her a car that asks less of her driving skills, thus further decreasing her driving skillsThe brain is very much use-it-or-lose-it. I wouldn't risk it.
>>28743426Coming home from middle school on the bus one day, an old lady got into her car, and backed into the side of the bus. There's no way she looked in her mirrors because the bus would have consumed the entire field of view. Or maybe she thought the sky had turned yellow. It really fucked up the back of her sedan, even at that slow speed. The bus was pretty much unharmed.
>>28747383>Subaru that highGoing to guess that's a combo of their sports cars being driven like sports car and their AWD vehicles being taken out in conditions drivers of other brands might not go out in.
