>Dealerships are refusing to do service on vehicles older than 10 years oldUhhh, what the fuck is this bullshit? Anyone encounter this?
Well how old is it and what are you tryna get done? 10-20 years, yeah they should still get it done. If it's like 50+ or something, I can see why they might say no
>>28744393Motor mounts and sway bar links on a 2012 GMC Sierra. I've never heard of a dealership refusing service on their vehicle on the basis of age. It's absurd. A vehicle from many decades ago I can understand because even if they might want to, it might be too difficult because of parts availability issues. But this doesn't seem like a situation in which they can't do the work. They said they wouldn't even do simple maintenance like oil changes lmao.I wonder what the real reason is behind this. The chick was suggesting I could always exchange the vehicle for a new one, kek. If you don't want to touch your truck after 10 years that doesn't give off a good impression. If you buy from the dealer, make sure you ask them if they will abandon servicing it after a certain amount of time or stand by their product confidently to guarantee it.
Manufacturers are only required by law to provide replacement parts for a vehicle for ten years after it is manufactured.
>>28744453I mean I guess that makes sense. Not much dealerships can do if the manufacturer doesn't make parts for it. They're not going to use non-OEM parts or aftermarket parts you bring in. But that highlights a bigger problem with planned obsolescence in the vehicle market.
>>28744453I asked them why and they said they didn't know. I wish they explained that to me.
>>28744453that probably means the body/platform. for example the Omni/Horizon was produced 78-90 so OEM parts could have been gotten to 2000 even for the oldest ones from the late 70s.
>>28744453thats communism we need to DEREGULATE it and let the free market decide how long it wants to make parts
>>28744453So youre saying some flop car that lasted 1 year needs to have continuous production of parts for 10 years?
>>28744421>If you buy from the dealer, make sure you ask them if they will abandon servicing it after a certain amount of time or stand by their product confidently to guarantee it>uhhhh yeah sure our service department works on thoseWTF do you expect them to say? Also you're a retard if you're seriously trying to have the dealer service a 10 year old car
>>28744490Are you quite sure? They did evolve somewhat along the way, for example late ones had a fuel injected 2.2L four and not the carbed VW 1.7L of the early ones. The interiors changed as well, not a huge deal but there were changes over the years eg. the steering wheel. Although a lot of the L-bodies was the same for all 12 model years there were enough detail changes and one doubts dealers still stocked certain parts like the 78-80 steering wheel by the 90s.
>>28744421>2012>GMC>SierraNGMI
I would also bet that to be the case with many other long-running vehicle platforms especially light trucks. The 7th gen Suburban lasted 18 years and you can safely assume a 73 model and a 91 model had quite a number of differences.
My dealer still services my 60 year old Corvette, sounds like a you problem?
>>28744502It's going strong. Which is why I was baffled at first at why they would deny service. It's a perfectly good truck and more reliable than newer cars that show a list of 20+ diagnostic trouble codes.
>>2874450090 interior is way nicer, the 78 interior looks like a school bus
>>28744492Reddit is that way, bro. ----->
>>28744514sure he can do stuff like oil changes but factory replacement parts stopped being made around the time Nixon resigned from office
>>28744492In theory, consumers would purchase products from the company that guarantees their products for longer. That's a competitive advantage. I'm less likely to purchase from a dealer that refuses service to their own products. Next time I might buy from a different place. But planned obsolescence has never been stronger. Nothing lasts anymore. It's all about profit even at the cost of reputation.
>>28744453and this is why my truck will be half chinese by the end of the decade, when will beijing stop winning bros?
>>28744533>In theoryThat's the problem, isn't it? No company is going to claim up front that they'll drop support for the vehicle as soon as they can, and if every one of them does it (because if they don't, they're spending money their competitors aren't and the current management probably won't be around in 10 years) then you end up in the same situation as with telecom companies. They all suck, they all suck pretty much equally, they all do the same backhanded bullshit, but you have the illusion of choice to switch carriers.
>>28744421They’re probably busy with big time jobs on those 10 speeds and GM is paying big bucks. If you come in they will charge you a lot or risk losing their premium hourly rate they’re charging GM. If they turn away customers because they are busy it justifies raising the rate even more. It’s ridiculous but that’s the business model. They make money charging GM to fix new vehicles under warranty.
>>28744555just like the 90s when Chrysler dealers were replacing Ultradrive transmissions left and right. we remember...
>>28744564Yes, exactly.
>>28744564Them damn minivans used to spend more time in the shop than on the road. Only 90s kids will remember this.
>>28744389>going to a stealership for maintenance Are you a woman?
>>28744389It's not that they can't, but they don't want to.Sway bar end links are maybe a 2/10 on difficulty scale.Engine mounts could be a bitch or not at all Depends on the car
>>28744625They said they wouldn't even change the engine oil on it.
>>28744421I bet its not policy its more that your rusted shit box is a booby trap of costs like rusted shit and broken whatevers.I bet you already know this because only a retard would ask a dealership to do service on their car out of warranty. What did the independent tech shop you brought this to first say?
>>28744389It's because they sold all the OEM documentation to schmucks for the same inflation adjusted price they paid 15 years ago and no longer have the real manufac service manuals.And no, while Charm.li is a great resource, those also are not complete documentations.
>>28744389Harley is the same way. And Honda powersports you're lucky to get any oem parts if it's out of production for just three years.
>>28744389>>28744421>going to a dealership for anything that isn't warranty serviceA fool and his money... something something.
>>28744627That sounds like 1 worker is retarded anon.I've had a Chevy dealer change the oil on a 1964 C10.(I got a fundraiser free oil change Coupon)
>>28744389Smart move. oh, sorry, we can't fix your POS, better buy another. Planned obsolescence. It's the same reason windshield wipers used to last 5 years and the same reason that LED lights, that should last twenty years, only last two or three.
>>28744527No. They do full repairs on mine. Not just maintenance. I don’t even have the oldest car, there’s other gents in my club that come in with their C1s. Sounds like OP is trying to get his car serviced in some hick town.
>>28744484>They're not going to use non-OEM partsWe sell pads and rotors to the local Chevy dealer all the time.>t. Carquest counterjockey
>>28744389>Dealerships are refusing to do service on vehicles older than 10 years oldLearned that back in the 80's when a friend took a 68 Mustang in to the Ford dealer for a window regulator. They were like "We don't know how to work on that. We don't even have parts for it."What I've seen since is that they don't want your old (5+yrs) shitbox in there because the techs only know what's up with the current vehicles since that's what they see all the time and the know all the applicable labor op codes for the warranty repairs backwards and forwards so they're billing 80+ hours a week for actual 10 working hours and your ancient shitbox throws that all off. Management is onboard with this because keeping the billed hours up keeps those bonuses coming.
>>28744732nice Reddit pasta.
>>28744732>so they're billing 80+ hours a week for actual 10 working hours and your ancient shitbox throws that all offThat's what I was thinking. For "efficiency" sake because the techs know how to work on newer cars quicker. Good explanation.
>>28744698Hmm so they can't use the parts excuse if they can use aftermarket parts.
>>28744389oh yeah, not even a front-end alignment
well my dad had a dealer check out his 82 Dodge 024 in 1997 so they could tell him it was 15 years old and a decrepit pile of scrap ready for the junkyard. they gladly looked at it and expressed some surprise that one of them was still on the road. now to be perfectly fair if they're required to stock parts for a car for ten years then 97 was ten since the last L-body coupes were made so that was the last year in which a Dodge dealer might have been able to service one.
>>28744671You know this isn't the norm, right?
>>28744746that's a bit wack
>>28744759perhaps so. the parking lot at the service center as i recall was full of Caravans, C-body New Yorkers, Dynastys, in short all 90s Mopar shit and no doubt it would have been a while since they'd serviced anything that predated George H.W. Bush's presidency.
>>28744500here's an 82 Omni interior. the 024 was very similar. as you will see this period of L-bodies had still another interior look. more plastic and not as much vinyl as the 78 interior, different steering wheel, and the 70s woodgrain is gone.
>>28744773That is a very nice probably garaged grandma car. the interior on my dad's was in pretty poor shape at the end with a lot of stuff falling apart from sun damage. it wasn't garage kept in any case.
>>28744778>That is a very nice probably garaged grandma carPerhaps but is not Japanese so /o/ doesn't care.
>>28744773That's an 89 Omni NOT an 82. the 82 ones still had woodgrain in them. The woodgrain was dropped in 84 and the L-body interiors remained basically unchanged from there on until the end in 90, except for the addition of an airbag on final year models.
To clarify. The L-bodies had four interior revisions: 78-79, 80-81, 82-83, and 84-90. Chrysler decreed no further changes after 83 other than changing the 2.2 engine to fuel injection in 88 and replacing the 4 speed manual with a 5 speed as well as the airbag in 90.
>>28744493It needs to have OEM parts available for 10 years.
>>28744421ford dealers were turning away 90s f-series by 2010 but the truth is you should not hand your vehicle to dealer tech nigslime.
>>28744492The free market would have you buy a new car every year if it could. Or maybe a dealership subscription service for access to parts.
>>28744779>is not Japanese so /o/ doesn't care.I think there are probably other reasons people don't go crazy for the Dodge Omni
>>28744389I've seen places that say they can refuse to work on vehicles older than 10 years but that is used as an excuse to not serve retarded poorfags and minorities. I've never been refused service on any of my cars.
>>28744453this is 100% not truehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M7iTxLD0MA
>>28744421>suggesting I could always exchange the vehicle for a new one, kek.>I wonder what the real reason is behind this
>>28744389>>28745523*Ha, and G00gel image search cannot find Jimmy Dore?! Even more sus.
>>28744484>They're not going to use non-OEM partsGo get a oil change at one and look to see what kind of filter they put on. You'd be surprised.
>>28744495>WTF do you expect them to say?The truth that they will be accountable for, and that will go on the internet for everyone to actually hold them accountable for it. If nobody gets fired on my visit to the dealer, it was not worth my time.
>>28744748Yeah, it's a Corvette thing.
>>28744492>thats communism we need to DEREGULATEcommunism is the ill effects of le capitalism x10000, retard
>>28744779My parents had a Plymouth Horizon shortly after getting married. I don't really remember riding in it, I was too young. I haven't seen one on the road in my state in probably 5 years.
The number of morons in America who don't realize our most prosperous decades were the direct result of the most socialist polices we've ever had truly saddens me. The incredible prosperity and easy living afforded to Americans in the 50s-70s was the direct result of socialist policies from the 20s-40s that were put in place to pull us out of the depression and build our war economy.Post war grifters used a twisted misinterpretation of "freedom" to trick US voters into voting against their own interests in favor of big money and by the time Reagan finished his second term the damage was done. The debt and cost of living has only come down in the modern era under democratic leadership and you've been pysoped into being so mad about fake problems that you continue to vote yourselves into poverty. It's humiliating.
>>28747132Neoliberal capitalism has been a disaster. Profit motive above all else is gutting the middle class and prosperity we once enjoyed.
