Is this the most aesthetic motorcycle of all?
>>28759087VFR800 Interceptor is most aesthetic, but Duc is close second. If the Ducati had the exhaust under the tail it would be #1 since overall it has a slight edge over the VFR, but the dual undertail exhaust gives it to the VFR.
Ugly gaudy red plastic, and too much of it.
No, this is.
>>28759087Wrong Ducati
Vespampère
i like a thicc girl. a japanese girl with the thickness of an american girl, an american girl like foxy roxxie.
>>28759087For me, it's the old Honda Dominator 650. Literally the do-it-all bike you can take to hell and back.
>>28759087No, it would be the 1974 Ducati 750 SS
>>28759087I'm quite fond of this one.
>>28759087I'm not the biggest fan of new bikes, but the 750 is gorgeous
Cointoss between the RC51 and RC46
>>287590945th gen from 98-01 yes, anything past those years is soulless slop.
Sidecars look the coolest... At least it will be when it's done. ;_;
>>28759605I was hesitant to post my bike, but god damn do I love me an Ural>B-BUT IT'S A DNEPRYeah yeah, whatever you say gamer.Also how's them cone filters treating you, did you rejet? K68 don't like cones
Archetypal sportsbike aesthetic.
>>28759087vehicular porn
>>28759945Too much going on with that tail
>>28759087Gotta be the Honda Rune
I personally like Langan two stroke
>>28759617No shame anon, mine is also a Dnepr MT-16.I dig the white paint but you know they sell dnepr tank badges right?I have the new black and white triangle ones. But I think the retro pic related ones are cooler.I like the cone filters. I needed to make room if I wanted to install the electric starter anyways, and yeah I needed to redo the carbs, but that's okay.I'm actually in the middle of a lot of wrenching right now. These bikes never stop needing work it seems.
>>28760488I meant your "Ural" is neat even if it's a Dnepr, mine is a genuine IMZ Ural, Russian, not Ukrainian like your KMZ.They're similar superficially, but the engines internally are completely different
Bikini fairing is best desu
>>28759087Bikes are for dykes
>>28761364I'd rather be a dyke than a faggot like you
>>28759087Hot take, Ducati is over rated.
>>28761388that isn't a hot take. you're right.
>>28761388>MAMA MIA WE GOTTA GO RIDE THE DUCATI TO THE EXPRESSO' >ITS ONLY 5 MILES AWAY, SURELY I CAN MAKE THE LONG TRIP AND BACK>bike never sees a 5 digit odometer>bike can't survive that long>bike parts to fix are comically overpriced>MAMA MIA THIS-A BEST EXPERIENCE OF MOTORCYCLING I AM GP RACER YES!>spends 98% of its life in a glass box or hung on a wall because literally nobody rides any ducs hard or long>ITALIA MAKE-A THE BEST BYKE, ITALY NUMBA JUAN!Total ducatisa death!
>>28761926Ducati is just Italian Harley??
>>28761935Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave? >New meme unlocked
>>28761935Nah Ducati don't make bikes that were outdated back in 1965.
>>28762000Harley makes single crank pin 45° V twins because that's what the people want. I don't see you taking issue with the Airhead BMW posted above despite it being another retarded and inefficient way to do two cylinders.Ducati is Italian Harley because you spend an above average amount of money for below average build quality. It's nothing to do with the engineering decisions.t. rode the best bike Harley ever made for 5000 miles this season and found it lacking
>>28761926time to post the best ducati videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR7ENFjqfb4
Give it to me straight, ducati bros - is desmo serviceable outside of specialist shops? Can you adjust them yourself? Is it even a big deal?
>>28762038airhead bmw is a much more practical way to do two cylinders, from boxer balance to low center of gravity to intrinsic cooling to protecting rider's legs in a crashharley potatoes for the sake of potato-ing, people love harleys for how much they suck
>>28762102>is desmo serviceable outside of specialist shops?Not only it doable, it's expected of Ducati riders to it themselves, on the side of a road at that
>>28762088OmegakekCOOKINGANDCAGESIS ALL THE ITALIANS ARE GOOD FOR
>>28762117Seeing a ducatista wrench is like seeing one of them ride more than 5 miles.It just doesn't happen in the real world.
>>28759087 >most aesthetic >image isn't showing off the tail light your level of perversion is pathetic also it's the 03 sv650
>>28761388Here's a real hot take.Jap bikes all look like shit. There isn't a single good looking one. Some meh, borderline okay looking ones, but not a single bike I'd call good looking.
>>28762113>balanceYeah it's good. Pisstwins also good. 90° V... yep, good.>low CoGNot really important on a motorcycle. Nice to have I guess, but outside of handling a 600+ pound bike at really low speed it's really not something you ought to worry about.>coolingThis may have been difficult to get right 70 years ago, but that's a non-factor for anything this side of the Reagan import tariff.>protecting legs in crashYou would see a lot more highway bars if your average rider cared about this. Nobody rides motorcycles because they're safe.Now please explain to me how having your fat fucking engine head be the frame slider is the benefit that makes it worth the excess weight and complexity over a parallel twin.>practical way to do two cylindersYou almost understand yet you completely miss the point. A parallel twin is the one and only practical way to do two cylinders. If boxers were at all practical, how come the only companies making a boxer twin are BMW and... Ural. Because unless you live in a shithole you don't get a motorcycle because it's practical. You get a motorcycle because you want to. Some people are attracted to the sound, feel, style, history, and general vibe of a harley. Why? Idk, maybe because someone else would pick an airhead BMW, Honda Africa Twin, or Ducati Monster for the same reasons. picrel it's my newest bike and makes one really good looking bobber with minimal effort. Although this one's going to be a scrambler because I have been cursed with too much personality for my own well-being.>>28762217hey
This is mine. I much prefer the full fairing version. I love it a lot. Had it since 2017 I think. Started off as a 600cc, carbed, single front brake, narrow wheels. Now a Monster 900 motor with injection, 1000ss front end and wheels. It's fun.
This is>>28762306V-twin chad of truth
>>28759987This and then Harleys
>>28759598Very true. As soon as they went back to the side pipe, it was ruined. I will make an exception for the 2007 anniversary edition, the white and blue race livery is nice.
>>28762306>CoG not important on a motorcycleOf course a Harley wrangler would say that. A fat-ass R1100GS handles like a little 400. >You would see a lot more highway barsYou do see a lot of highway bars. And you gotta put them on the boxer too, so that a little slow speed drop doesn't scratch your heads. But the big difference is that highway bars won't actually protect you in a bigger crash that scrapes the side, they'll just bend out of the way and your leg is now mush. Bars braced by the engine will actually leave a safe pocket for your meaty parts. >Nobody rides motorcycles because they're safe.There is a whole class of boomers riding either GS-es or just surplus police boxers who commute on them. Maybe not as much in the US, but you see a LOT of them in Europe. And also, well, the cops who those surplus R-s come from, there's a good reason why R-series are the most popular police bikes outside of the US (who only buy Harleys because otherwise they'll go bankrupt and Milwaukee turns into Detroit-3; note how Canadians still buy BMWs) and third world (who can't afford them). They ride them because they are safe, while still providing bikes' benefits.
>>28759087Lol fuck no, the 900 SS is actually kinda ugly and cheap looking desu. Plastics are just there, giant rectangular headlight in a design thats all curves, integrated turn-lights take up an absurd amount of space, tail is generic AF, frame is same old ducati frame with stressed member engine and BY GOD WHAT IS THIS SWINGARM? Early 90s Ducati was in a weird space design-wise between the classics and the new.
>>287620884 years later he did his next video...
>>28763278For me, it's the Matrix Edition.
>>28763278That's exactly what makes it so good
>>28762088>Now we put in all five gears and all five neutrals.
>>28762217What about this one?
For me, Aprilia
>>28763519Aprilia hasn't built a good looking bike since the RS250
>>28763262>a Harley wrangler would say thatI owned an 883 from February to September. It was my 8th bike. I'm not a harley dude.> A fat-ass R1100GS handles like a little 400yeah ok.>>28763262>You do see a lot of highway bars.Maybe in yurop??? Here they're exclusively on geezerglides. ADVs, sportbikes, bobbers, standards, retros, dual sports, approximately never. >they'll just bend out of the wayyeah ok.As for your last paragraph of bullshit, 1. there's plenty of US Departments that use bmws, I would know because I live here. 2, they use fully dressed tourers because that's what has the comfort and storage necessary for their job. Not because they're safe you fucking idiot this is not and has never been a safe hobby, please stop being retarded about your boxer twin bikes and accept that it's ok to like something suboptimal, and even suboptimal stuff can be pretty effective if applied properly.
>>28763290Indeed, the 996 is pretty. I do like the 916 a bit more though.
Sidecars are the best
>>28762214I miss my Sv
>>28763578second gen RSV had the best design-details.
>>28763516That is fucking hideous, it's the bmw borg cube in bike form
>>28763578I remember for a time in the 00s people were swapping RXV550 engines into their blown up RS250s. In hindsight shit for values and actually no less maintenance-intensive.
What bike has held its value? V4R seem very stable.
>>28765124much worse i imagine, a blown up 2-smoke is comparatively easy to repair, those 4stroke V2s of the 450/550s meanwhile... good luck even getting parts for them.
>>28765133Brough Superior SS100
>>28765133Aside from Harleys? None. You can get the rarest classic bikes for less than a new superbike. And every new bike instantly loses like half their value in the first couple years.
>>28765144Not because of the bike though, its like a DeLorean. Noone buys it just because they like the Bike but because of the story around it.There were countless british motorcycle manufacturers who made specific rare bikes.
>>28765133The new V4 will probably never depreciate. It's super limited and the WSB Homologation price cap means it actually looks like a bargain at list and is barely more expensive than the regular version.
>>28765133Also collector grade 1299 Superleggeras aren't getting any lower. I'd avoid the 1199 as it will always be in the shadow of the 12, and the V4 is still way more expensive and probably due to be superseded with the redesign.
>>28765167>is barely more expensive than the regular versionYou mean the V4R vs the V4S?
>>28765223Jawohl
>>28762306>A parallel twin is the one and only practical way to do two cylinders.its also extremely gay>>28763940>yeah ok.not the guy you're replying to but I've got an 1150GS and the things low speed handling is way too good for how big and heavy of a fat pig it is
indian scout bobber
>>28766154I do agree that it's practically the only liquid-cooled bike to put any effort into making the engine a good-looking part of the whole design, rather than something that's just there because it has to be, and without resorting to fake cooling fins.
>>28765148>You can get the rarest classic bikes for less than a new superbike.as a rider who's also into cars I'm always amused when bike guys talk about certain classic motorcycles getting "expensive" or "shooting up in value." I'll go look up whatever model they're talking about and inevitably find out they're trading for like $9k or something. I guess if you think all used motorcycles should cost $2k max that's pricey but it's just a joke if you follow BaT for cars
I won't say the sdr200, and particularly the srx600/400, are ideal engine for the American market, but holy shit, the designer for Yamaha with those bikes was doing phenomenal work with his design language.
>>28766154Victory Octane*
In Japan they say Yamaha is like art for a reason.
>>28767487Bold and brash? More like belongs in the trash!>If yamaha was art they'd be modern art, a sham, a joke, a delicate and fragile piece of metal glued together by monkeys with popicile sticks.>49 recalls too kek
>>28767496Yamaha actually recalls if something is wrong meanwhile Honda claims 500ml oil burn per 1k km is normal, lmao kek
>>28767540>Yamaha actually recalls if something is wrong meanwhile Honda claims 500ml oil burn per 1k km is normal, lmao kekStill could be worse
>>28759087>>28759094>>28759124Picrel is my fave
>>28767487SRX400/600 is my bikefu. I regret selling mine to this day and now they are unobtanium in my country.
>>28767689Don't be upset fren, you can still find your very special Yamaha somewhere.
>>28767699>very special Yamahathere are like two models like this left:Virago250 and BOLT-R, both with unique enginesAlso R9 is basically a homologation bike and then there's Niken.
>>28762088>checks the the clearances, this is important because its the last time anyone will a fuckin bother
>>28767778K100 fairing looks cooler
is it true that the entire japanese bike industry was kickstarted because a german engineer fled to japan/gave them data?
>>28768549That's the story about Degner, a 2-stroke GP rider who went to Suzuki with design secrets when he defected from East Germany's MZ team. Japanese bike makers were already pretty well established by then, and only Suzuki's GP racing team benefited.
>>28768549No, it was the DKW RT125 that really got it going as it was pretty much free real estate.There were a bunch of Soviet and East German border hoppers, but they mostly helped with the racing.
>>28768549All Japanese industry was based on copying western designs.
which was the jap bikemaker that started out as some samurai monk pianotuner?
Yes there's one better. Turbo Ducati
>>28769165https://jp.yamaha.com/products/musical_instruments/pianos/index.html
This is the best of the Harleys
>>28769904looks like bolt-r
>>28769909I didn't realize Yamaha made a Sportster. Actually pretty nicely proportioned, better than most actual Sportster, but the details are wonky.
>>28768813Looks like one of those art deco locomotives.