>Have a mid sized SUV as my first car as a teenager.>Eventually sell it, only drive coupes and sedans for the next 15 years.>About to have my first child, current daily is a mid sized sedan.>Install car-seat and notice how cramped it is in the back seat.>Notice it's a minor pain in the ass to get the stroller in and out of the trunk.>Dipshit runs a light and hits my car.>Insurance gives me a small SUV (Hyundai Kona) as a rental while car is in the shop.>Significantly easier to get all the kid bullshit in and out of the car.>It's loaded with driver assists and safety features that are genuinely good for my mom-brained wife.FUCKI'm understanding why people with kids end up with SUVs, and generally why crossovers and SUVs have become the standard vehicle.Do I just buckle down on sedan supremacy or give in to eggshit practicality and trade it in?At least I have a manual+v8 project car in the works.
i took that pill with the first kid and got my wife a gx550 ot+, but the true kidpill moment was realizing even that wasnt enough and getting her a sienna platinum when we had the 2nd.550 ot spec is actually the worst if you have kids bc you will want the third row at some point, and you lose the overhead 2nd row hvac vents, stick to the base or luxury.
Never give in.
CUVs are for those who want something slightly manlier than the memevan.
>>28766929I recommend getting a van instead.Preferably white, without windows.
>>28766957"Free Candy" graphics optional.
>>28766929You are a goy
If you enjoyed the Kona, and you have a sizable family, I recommend the Kia Sorento - the upscale trims have a 2.5T with nearly 300hp, or the Kia Carnival which is really just a stretched version of the same, but I recommend the V6 there for smoothness. Kia makes the best non-luxury family cars in the biz!
>>28766929>the true kidpill moment was realizing even that wasnt enough and getting her a sienna platinum when we had the 2nd.>you will want the third row at some pointDamn - just for the extra cargo space or what? Two kids is absolutely my hard limit, but right now we're going to give it at least a year and see how things go with our first before we decide if we're going for a second or not.Really trying to keep the number of vehicles we have to a minimum - we got by with just one for a long time, but now we'll definitely need two so I'm thinking one will be absolutely practicality/utility-maxxed and the other will be my "fun" car.>>28766953>memevanI'm really not against vans, but we're getting pretty serious about moving somewhere in the next few years that AWD/4WD would be a real nice to have.>>28766972I don't necessarily enjoy it desu, but I can't ignore some of the practical benefits it offers. I really don't love the interior on the Kona, but that's in part just due to the terrible light gray color the rental has. I think it would be totally sufficient for one kid, but I can see it being too small for two. On a roadtrip that small cargo area will max out fast.
>>28766989>I really don't love the interior on the Konayou probably drove the last generation one + the kona is the cheaper/small end of kia, the interiors get nicer as you get largerthe interior of the sorento and carnival are nicei think the sorento is a nice sweet spot of not too big or small - sounds like you don't JUST want max capacity, and you can get the 2.5T powertrain to make it more fun I just wish they would offer a more dedicated off road package>that AWD/4WD would be a real nice to havewinter tires will do more, but the santa fe is slightly more roomy than the sorento, but at the cost of having a slightly less user friendly over-done interior
Sounds like you need a minivan
Don't make decisions based on internet stranger's opinions or some weird perception about masculinity lmao. If your life is made easier by it then buy it. Also don't listen to the retarded 3 row minivan comments. Sounds like you have one child. Buy a crossover if you genuinely found it more comfortable.
Here's what I'd get if i had to get a crossover. It has the most wagon-like form, decent engine, looks kind of ugly though.
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>>28766989>Damn - just for the extra cargo space or what?your kids will have friends, or you'll have family visiting, or you'll want to carpool somewhere vs drive separate cars, etc. putting 3 adults and 2 kids in child seats into a 5 seater is going to be an exercise in pain that will get incredibly annoying if it happens to you more than once. get a van and all of a sudden you are able to haul 2 kids, 5 adults, and all the associated shit in comfort in a single car without compromise or having to do acrobatics to get everything in.also sliding doors are OP for loading car seats in and out in parking lots where conventional doors cant always be opened fully.the practicality just slaps you every time you encounter a situation where some attribute of the van makes life much better. get over the image ego and just get the luxobarge of your choice.
>>28766929Shoulda bought a 50 year old station wagon with real fake wood, son
>>28766929If you have more than one or two kids you're better off with a minivan –an actual minivan—. The amount of shit you'll be schlepping is unconscionable.Especially if they're still using child seats, boosters and strollers...t. Three year old boy and twin one yo girls...
>>28767297>>28767304>wagon likeThat's literally a run-of-the-mill hatchback bub...
>>28767414If it was up to me... It'd be nothing but SWs and trucks...
>>28766929>At least I have a manual+v8 project car in the worksNot with that kid you don't. Enjoy maybe considering going and looking at in 3 years time.
>>28767463I'm not gonna give it up. I'm ordering transmission parts.
>>28767297Find one in person, they're way bigger/taller than you think.
>>28766957This.
>>28766929>Do I just buckle down on sedan supremacysedans were never supreme. that title always went to wagons, which are great after the kids are out of carseats and strollers.>give in to eggshit practicality and trade it in?crossovers and midsizes usually dont have a lot of cargo capacity relative to their size. Minivans are much easier to work around and are overall comfier than your typical suv and have more cargo space if thats what your after. crossovers and midsize suvs are more a product of skirting cafe regulations than consumer trends
>>28766929What does your wife's boyfriend drive
You can easily fit 2 children+stroller day to day in a sedan. I do it with my giulia. Wife has an suv that we use for road trips. The best hauler is a minivan though. Rented one for vacation and it fits everything.
You can get an actual truck and your wife will still fill it to the brim with all kinds of crap. We used to go on vacation with a 4 door Suzuki sidekick with one child and that was always ram packed. Business started getting good so we got a ram and ended up with another kid. Some how with an extra 15x more cargo space it was still absolutely full
>>28766989>Damn - just for the extra cargo space or what?Consider that the extra space in the back can also just be excess moving space. Headroom in a minivan is significantly better than on SUVs. Sliding door also trumps opening a hinged door for easy parking lot loads. Just rent a minivan for a day, you'll understand. They're purpose built for mom brain, CUV/SUVs are not
Unironically most convenient vehicle ive ever owned>still giving to my future wife or kids the moment i can get a nice super sedan
>>28767414>malaise trud that was already defective from the factoryThanks but i'll pass
