>>28767063
If ford can pull off ev performance with 700 miles of range in a pickup truck theyre gonna easily shit on the competition.

I had to use the F150 Lightning at work to tow. Its ranged reduced from a rough ~350km fully charged to less than 80km. Completely fucking useless. How anyone would pay almost 100K for a pile of garbage like that, I will never understand.

literally nobody in north america wants shitty EVs, the USA, Mexico, and Canada are large countries that require gasoline, diesel.

EVs are for city cucks and slave people like europoors.

>>28767100
>almost 100K
Are they really that expensive?

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>>28767113
Yes. Checkout that MSRP.

>>28767100
could buy an old restored land barge that could tow almost as much for that price and have 10x the fun driving it

>>28767113
Yeah. Many of these EVs are being marketed as luxury vehicles with a price to match

Because EVs are fucking stupid for large counties and hybrids were ALWAYS the superior solution.

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>>28767169
>Because EVs are fucking stupid for large counties
What if America had high quality national public transport options to supplement EVs or are Americans to retarded to build that?

>>28767185
china also doesn't have a lot of african and middle eastern migrants

>>28767225
they legit do now

>>28767185
>What if America had high quality national public transport
Not in MY backyard they ain't. Them niggers can stay in them cities.
>>28767225
>african and middle eastern migrants
Call them what they are, slaves.

>>28767100
These were never intended to tow anything. They're made for people who want to use a truck as a daily driver but don't want to pay for the gas. An IRS tow vehicle is retarded regardless of the drivetrain.

>>28767100
>How anyone would pay almost 100K for a pile of garbage like that, I will never understand.
Clearly they didn't, since Ford is axing the line

>>28767253
Fair point, but the larpers who daily a super duty to the office still like to tell themselves they COULD haul a cattle trailer, or a boat, or a whatever the fuck cross country. Even the truest bluest lefties admit refueling a battery takes a hell of a lot longer than the gas pump. So there really is no use case for an electric pickup truck, until they make a battery big enough to haul two tons 1,000+ miles or able to recharge in under 5 minutes.

>>28767185
Americans are too retarded to fund and build that and we've seen it over and over again in the way they vote.

Actually good high speed rail and public transit would make owning a gas car even more based because it would reduce the overall load on the road system significantly and reduce emissions in high traffic areas significantly. It would actually improve our car culture dramatically if not every single retard needed an eggshitmobile and a loan to get to work and back or visit their stoner friends in the next city over.

>>28767063
>be ford
>make electric pickup that can't do pickup things
>it doesn't sell
>make electric mustang that isn't a mustang
>it doesn't sell
>????
>EVs don't sell!
if they weren't utterly retarded, they'd have made EVs people actually want to buy and they'd be selling them just fine.
tesla doesn't seem to have a problem moving their EVs (well, except the cybertruck which isn't good as a truck and also liable to get you hatecrimed by leftists/niggers)
kia doesn't seem to have a problem selling their EVs neither

the only companies that have problem selling EVs are the ones that make shit and/or overpriced ones

>>28767063
Who cares. Ford is pavement princess tier cars.

>>28767289
simply not naming the Mach E after the most iconic American car in history would have done wonders imo.

>>28767253
imo they should have gone for a hybrid drivetrain with it.
>electric motors for low end torque while towing
>regenerative braking while pulling a heavy load
it's a large enough vehicle they could have put some beefy batteries on it without seriously effecting the handling.
but no, let's let the guy behind the welt belt design spec out an EV pickup that no one wants. (this might not be literally true.)

>>28767293
yup.
from what i've seen in reviews, its actually not a bad car. just not a mustang. its an x3 analogue.
also, massively overpriced, which definitely didn't help.

>>28767063
>no more government subsidiary
I'm excited for tesla's next financial report

>>28767283
>Actually good high speed rail and public transit
this is a complete non-starter in a country with lots of nigs/browns
nobody wants those people to have a cheap way to reach their suburb
the spread, the requirement for long drives and the lack of public transit alternatives is a feature, not a bug.

>>28767185
It's so silly how gearheads are against this can't they imagine how much better the roads,driving,the auto industry and EVERYTHING would be if all the people who don't like to drive cars didn't have to DRIVE or own cars

>>28767185
hard not to notice how often being an EV shill overlaps with also being a china shill

>>28767311
I seriously wonder how much of Musk's fallout with Trump was a PR move to get the lefties to start buying his oversized bumper cars again instead of firebombing them.

>>28767315
it would immediately become so ungodly expensive that only the uberwealthy could afford it. there's massive economies of scale at play here in regards to the auto industry.

Nobody is buying EVs because nobody can afford them. The only time they make sense is if you can charge it at home and just use it for a daily, but again nobody can afford a house and apartments don't have chargers.

>>28767063
Probably because middle America doesn't have as many recharging stations as the coasts

>>28767063
Bring back Mondeo

>>28767063
>, how could this happen?
The leadership at FORD will make money.
The company of FORD will lose money.

This explains the situation. If you believe you need more explanation you are incorrect & haven't thought it through enough.

>>28767108
I had to take my EV on a road trip. The charging station was near an upscale Deli. Elon Musk is a genius.

>>28767245
>Not in MY backyard they ain't.
dude. They are building apartment complexes near me. I live over 20 miles from the city center. It just keeps happening. No matter how far you flee, the city expands and ghettoes your neighborhood.

>>28767283
It depends. There's no good reason a flat state like Ohio doesn't have a high speed rail connecting Cleveland, Columbus, Dayton and Cincinnati, I agree, but Americans do vote for mass transit/light rail projects more often than not. But until the government has the ability to freely eminent domain right of ways from freight rail companies and other landowners it will not be financially feasible for many states to build new rail lines as California is learning and we're left with shitty compromised networks.
Short-medium term, dedicated bus lanes with high frequencies are about as it's going to possibly be for most American cities' transit plans, while air travel still reigns supreme for long distance travel.

>>28767063
>gets rid of all its global compact vehicles
>killed the focus
>the fucking fiesta, party's over
>for some retarded reason (shareholder jews most likely)
>shills full EVs because "thats is what everyone is going to do!"
>it has to be with at least a huge battery to cope with the domestic market
>"btw the american taxpayer are paying for our projects so if anything goes south, whoops, daddy state please bail us out!"

Funniest shit ever.

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>>28767185
the work involved to do this in the us is at least twice as much as in china because the tartarians or whatever you might call them had an extensive (and the first) railroad network
as soon as grading begins the construction workers will start finding ancient rails which were intentionally buried beginning in the 19th century and increasingly during ww2 when there was a steel shortage
this would cause the need for a massive coverup. to avoid that they are likely spending a long time making a route in which they will find less ancient rail which is likely less efficient and will require more grading
me being schizo has nothing to do with me being right ( i am both ) lets get some high speed rail lines already

>>28767100
how are retards who make these decisions still in business?
Oh I know, welfare hand-outs to zombie corps so they never fail and get replaced.

>>28767185
Explain to me how public transportation is supposed to move construction supplies to job-sites?
>inb4: "nooo, those millions of kei trucks don't exist in Japan & China!"

>>28767426
>There's no good reason a flat state like Ohio doesn't have a high speed rail connecting Cleveland, Columbus, Dayton and Cincinnati
niggers, the answer is always nigger.
People don't want public transportation because nigger criminals use it to flood into white communities and burn/loot/murder. Then they flee back via the train lines, whereas if they use a stolen car they're instantly recognizable and not belonging and the local police can arrest them before they cause mayhem.
This has been tried before, it destroyed high-end neighborhoods and shopping areas, and that's why voters who still remember are adamantly opposed to it.

>>28767108
EV's are hampered by a current need for an overwhelmingly robust charging network, which no country has. Unless said country is China where a majority of people live condensed in one part of the country, EV's don't make sense in a larger country.

>>28767453
extremely wrong.

charging networks are very adequate in the west, the problem is lack of charging infra in apartment buildings.
nobody is willing to spend 2-3x 30mins at a charger per week, even if one is available (which it usually is). if you can't plug in at home, you don't buy an EV, period. (well, except if your work offers free charging or whatever)

so, yea, EVs are basically only for homeowners in the suburbs. and those have already bought EVs (or have explicitly rejected them for whatever reason). the remaining market for EVs is cucked out of them because they can't charge at home.

and this is also why used EVs are so cheap. the last 10 years have showed that battery degradation is not a problem, and ofc EVs have barely any need for other maintenance. so, in theory they should have displaced the common jap econobox memes as the poorfags choice.
but the people who buy used vehicles are also the ones who are renting, and therefore can't charge at home.
if you're rich enough to own a home, you're also rich enough to buy a new EV (if you want one)
so, no market for used EVs, despite awesome deals like 20kl for a 5yo dual motor model 3/Ys that will shit on contemporary m3s at the stoplight

>>28767253
>tow vehicle is retarded regardless of the drivetrain
*laughs in diesel-electric drive

>>28767293
It's a toss up. Some people bought it just because it was a cool hip looking car. Some didn't buy it because it was called a Mustang. We'll never know what the breakdown was. I would bet though that fewer people would have bought it if it was the Escape EV

>>28767185
No, we don't want the Nigger Express Line running between all of our cities so they have better access to abuse more rural White people and commit crimes.

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Thank fuck. Due to some EV program The Mayor (ie my boss) got goaded into buying 12 of these to replace our aged but functional pickups going on 10+ years old and they're just awful. Nobody in the DPW wants to use them because their battery life is trash at the outset. They cant function over the course of a work day. Even worse if you load it down. God forbid its too hot or cold out and you can actually watch the range drop in real time.
GOOD RIDDANCE.
>mfw we're still stuck with them despite the news

>>28767667
>used EVs are so cheap because they're so great
That isn't how price works. Things are cheap when the seller wants to sell more than the buyer wants to buy. If used was nearly as good as new, it would be nearly as expensive as new.

>>28767063
How can the CEO not blame democrats at least in part? They forced them to make this EV crap and they never resisted.

>>28767883
Let me guess, your Mayor bought some shitty Volkswagen ID3s right?

>>28767113
>>28767115
Nigger dont post a Lariat
Still the Lightneing was never cheap
WT Silverado EV is 47ish

>>28767426
Planes exist is why

>>28767985
No. 12 Lightnings. We're being pressured to replace one of our garbage trucks with an electric is going to be a million dollar waste of money. This electric vehicle fantasy world is burning money for nothing.

>>28767099
total ev nigger death

I don't want rails because I don't want city cucks coming here

>>28767426
Why would anyone want to go to Cincinnati or Cleveland?

>>28767898
stfu you jeet subhuman
i explained why there's low demand for used EVs
low demand leads to low price
you fucking street shitter

>>28767063
So, any chance of a new naturally aspirated v8 RWD sedan or is it just gonna be fat people cars fro rednecks and soccer moms?

>>28768588
anon, ford is too cucked to put a v8 even in the expedition
don't hold your breath. only the mustang and the superdutys will get v8s, and that's only because if they take them away, the shareholders will sue for obvious corporate sabotage.

>>28767063
They wasted a fuckton of money on building shit nobody wanted, like an electric crossover masquerading as a muscle car, or an electric pickup.

>>28768602
>like an electric crossover masquerading as a muscle car,
from what I heard the reason the Mock-E exists in the first place is to lower the company's average fuel economy so they could continue to sell the real mustang. (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong since I'm just repeating something I heard here.)
I still agree it's dumb as fuck, but somehow not quite as dumb as Stellantis thinking an electric muscle car would be anything but an abysmal failure.

>>28768606
Couldn't they have just paid the non-compliance fine? I think it would've been lower than $19.5 bill.
Also, for that money they could've gotten VAGina or Renlol to build an entire electric car lineup from scratch.
Mind you, that's what they're doing in Yurop, but it took them a long time to decide on that.

>>28768606
I think the Mach E exists because they wanted a cool electric car. I don't like that they had to poach The Prestige of their Mustang for that gay little car though

>>28767185
Ahh yes what if the US magically ignored property rights and did the largest infrastructure update since the 50s (which itself was noted for seizing properties and causing issues). Definitely is going to happen!

>>28769048
Well that gave us the interstate system which is the single most critical and important piece of US infrastructure and has enabled a nearly unimaginable amount of economic activity, so I wonder if it was worth it.

>>28769125
Yeah. For cars. Which everyone has.

>>28769125
Whether or not it was worth it, the US government doesn't have nearly enough public goodwill to start seizing land without starting a civil war. Imminent domain is NOT going to happen without blood being shed, let alone on the scale of the interstate system.

>>28769311
What if the populace was disarmed?

>>28769323
Lol, yeah Americans DEFINITELY trust the government to disarm them right now, just look how well it worked out for civil liberty in bongland, canukistan, and oz.

>>28767185
What if you didn't go to a board centered around people interested in private, personal transport to promote things that belong on >>>/n/?

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>>28767185
We ripped it all up and/or let it decay. Also, Tiananmen Square 1989 June 4th.

>>28769536
>each segment falls perfectly so as to destroy the next one
As expected from the nation that brought us dominoes.

>>28769536
>All but the eighth pillar built tofu dreg
Implessive

>>28767426

My Ohio roads are great without trains. I’m glad we still have them stumped around here.

>>28769125

The interstate highway system is the most based thing our Government ever did and I thank my ancestors for it. Where I live the roads are well cared for.

>>28767099
They already get 700 miles of range in the hybrid F-150 you ding dong. EVs are megagay.

>>28769622
Hybrid tech is already pretty good. Just capitalize and refine that.

>>28769558
and it's amazing that the only way the gov't was able to get it built was to say it was for national defense (moving ICBM's around so the rooskies wouldn't know where to hit in a first strike scenario)
plot twist:
>the icbm's were too tall to fit underneath standard overpasses.

>>28769622
And they drink 100L of gas doing that. The idea here is you get 300 miles of electric range, which you get from charging at your house, and if you need the extra range the engine kicks in and gives you extra power. Otherwise it just stays off until you need it.

In theory you'll still get a sub 5 second 0-60, still get assloads of torque, still get similar reliability since its just a generator slapped in the frunk. Sounds pretty good to me.

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>>28770429
jeet.

>>28770293
Nobody was thinking ICBMs, it was for tanks and troops being moved around the nation, plus other logistics like food and ammo. The plan for missiles was to see the Russian ones coming, launch theirs from the silos, and then die.

>>28770648
True. People always forget this

>>28769311
>let alone on the scale of the interstate system
They do this literally every year all the time. They're doing it right now for a massive expansion of interstate 6(?) near Kemah south of Houston. Most people that aren't retarded niggers or cryptic old boomers that think grandpappys back 4.5ac from 80 years ago is a farm don't care. Reason being having a giant interstate on your land, that wasn't apart of the buyback, makes it incredibly valuable. It's a millionaire maker for many people.

>>28767063
Ford gonna release hydrogen truck

>>28771465
>They're doing it right now for a massive expansion of interstate 6(?) near Kemah south of Houston.
There's no interstate by Kemah. I live right near there actually, and I'm not sure if you mean hwy 6, hwy 146, or I-45. The last two are undergoing improvement, but only 146 actually runs through Kemah. And anyway, any land they took was already commercial, not someone's farm.

>>28771934
The one with the bridge.
>They didn't take anyone's land. Only commercial landowners were affected.
Based retard.

American EVs outside of Tesla are an absolute joke lmao

>>28767063
Biden admin unironically destroyed the EV momentum by trying to cancel Teslas, the leading EV company in the US and the leading face of EV. They wanted to cut off their own nose to spite the face because Tesla wouldn't bend to their DEI tranny cult.

>>28767281
If you drove a regular ICE truck you wouldn't get to be a faggot and brag about your EV at the water cooler.

>>28767300
There's already the Powerboost F-150 which nobody buys (if they even make it still). "Range extenders" are one of the dumbest automotive ideas ever thought up.

>>28772168
>Biden admin
Everything was fine until Elon decided to take a stab at politics and actively campaign for Trump. that's when everyone went anti-Tesla including the EU.

>>28772183
Wrong, they shutdown his factory first and tried to kill his company. They would not allow his company to open back up. California tried to kill Tesla as they prayed to their covid cult. This was back when Tesla only had 1 factory in California. Every other car company in the US were operating as normal and Tesla was forced to shutdown for 2 months or so. And further took another 1 to slow down prior and few more months to spin the factory back up to normal operation. The guy dared California police to arrest him for opening his factory back up.

Biden rode on that covid fever and launched lawfare against ALL of Musk's companies and made it political.

The anti-Tesla is due to Musk being America, capitalist, competing against European companies and war propaganda spreading half truths and lies

>>28772202
Not true at all. Tesla sales were doing fine until he actively campaigned for Trump. In the EU Tesla was selling big time until Q1 2025 after the Trump shit. The sales do not lie. Also people were not vandalizing Tesla cars like they did after Trump was elected until Elon went full retard.

>>28772207
Q1 is when Tesla shutdown their Berlin factory down for renovation of new Model Y. Further, the fight with EU was long coming with Musk buying twitter. Which was done because of the Biden gov control over it. Most of the stuff goes back to Biden admin playing dirty. Musk either had to kow tow to the tranny propaganda or he had to fight back. He fought back and he won.

EU being anti-Tesla isn't just anti-Tesla, its all anti-American, anti-capitalism, anti-democracy, anti-freedom, anti-competition. This isn't just applied to Tesla but to all of what America represents. EU is experimenting with bringing back the real evils of the 20th century. Communism. They forgot the evils of the East Germany, Soviet Union and China.

>>28772172
People brag about EVs all the time. The power boost is one of Ford's most popular products. Boss spent a whole week bragging about how badass it was to have power during the hurricane off his truck. Pastor did the same with his.

If you don't have a power boost f150 or a raptor you unironically have a poorfag truck rn. Lightning is kinda shit but I wouldn't feel bad owning one if I didn't tow.

The superduty larp is retarded and played out. It's a costume that you're paying $8k/yr in fuel for. I say this as someone with a raptor and a 3/4 ton diesel truck. Diesels are shit and I'm not paying for it any longer. Gas trucks get 20mpg now too and toe 10k. It isn't the 90s where only diesel trucks could do that economically.

>>28767099
In order for people to truly give a shit, and not just give a shit publically for Good Boy Points, EVs have to be better than Combustion engines at everything they do. Nobody actually gives a shit about saving the planet except insofar as it can be used to inconvenience their political enemies. People care about convenience, price, ease of use and not being gigantic fucking faggots. EVs lose in all those fields and have the sole advantage of making said gigantic fucking faggots feel slightly better about themselves, which is not a metric for a lasting business model.

>>28773546
Correct.
All the people who really wanted an EV already have went out and bought one too.

>>28773546
>EVs have to be better than Combustion engines at everything they do
they are.
if a RR biturbo v12 could dream, it would dream of one day being as good as an electric motor
EVs have infinite power (in the sense that you can easily shove more hp into one than any tire setup could ever handle), flat power/torque curves that start at 0 "rpm", zero noise, zero vibration, more power overlap/smoothness than any gas engine, they can do traction control at 1000hz or more, they are cheaper to "fuel", and they are far simpler and more reliable than ICEs, esp modern ones.
they are better in every objective metric of performance or QOL

and while originally they were worse value than equivalent ICEs, nowadays even new model 3/Ys beat the pants out of their ICE competition in value. to say nothing of used ones, where you can get a 500hp LR AWD model 3 for like 20k. that's just absurd value.

there are drawbacks to EVs, but they only apply to very few customers
-sports car customers will want something more exciting and with more personality than EVs, which all feel the same and lack character, noise, the tactile engagement of manual shifting, the lightness of a miata or a lotus, the thrill or revving an NA motor to 8k rpm, etc.
-some trugg customers will want something that can actually tow without the range going down the shitter
-the occasional crazies who absolutely insist on being able to drive for more than 5 hours without needing to stop for 20 mins to recharge

but really, the actual reason that EV adoption can't continue to increase exponentially is quite simply than everyone who rents cant charge at home, with takes EVs from being far more convenient (and cheaper) than ICEs to being far less convenient than ICEs.

>>28774164
>All the people who really wanted an EV already have went out and bought one too
incorrect, as plainly evidenced by the sustained high BEV sales
but see above, the main obstacle to further adoption is renters

>>28772222
You sound extremely jewish.

>>28768588
Their CEO keeps mentioning a possible 4-door sedan based off the Mustang, but I’m skeptical it’s just cheap talk to generate interest.

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>>28774183
>they are better in every way
>lists 3 reasons they are inferior within the same post

>>28767063
Ah, good, so no reason to keep tariffs on Chinese EVs then since they're just not going to sell.

>>28774227
>oh that's different

>>28767100
I work for a government agency, we were mandated 2 Ford Lightning’s as part of a pilot program to EV our fleet. After an extremely lackluster performance, they mysteriously crashed into eachother and both got totaled out.

>>28767239
they do but their police savagely beat them when they display antisocial behavior and the populace applauds it because they (correctly) view them as subhuman

>>28775017
Those Lightnings sound like hot dogshit no matter where I see feedback on them

>>28772151
>Won't someone PLEASE think of Tillman Fertita and the Waltons!
And it's a state highway, not federal, so easier for (((lobbyists))) to make sure the massive corporations were fairly compensated for lost parking.

>>28774183
It really doesn't matter because everything will be electric but only 10% max will own a car anyway rest will be banned from it for safety reasons.

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>>28774183
>crazies who absolutely insist on being able to drive for more than 5 hours without needing to stop for 20 mins to recharge
Oh, so we're just gonna straight-up lie now? Road trips further than the next state over are the delusional fever dreams of autistic car fans? You can charge a Tesla battery from zero to full in less time than it takes to watch an episode of Last Week Tonight?

>>28775709
>Road trips further than the next state over are the delusional fever dreams of autistic car fans?
never said anything of the sort
i said only crazies absolutely insist on being able to to 5+ hours of driving without having to stop

>You can charge a Tesla battery from zero to full in less time than it takes to watch an episode of Last Week Tonight?
10-80%, which is about the largest mid-trip charge you'd ever want to do, takes about half an hour in modern EVs
in practice, most trip planning apps will have you doing 10-15 min stops a tad more frequently, but you can obviously change that if you want something else.
this is because charging curves are not flat for EVs, the lower your SoC is, the faster you can charge. for most evs, it ends up being faster to do 2x 10-50% than a single 10-80%, even though the former is more total kwhr added. and ofc this is also a function of charger locations and the speed of each charger, etc

>>28767185
Why would I drive to a train station, take a train somewhere and then rent a car there when I can just drive my own car there?

>>28767063
Ev are fine, it’s ford that’s trash

>>28767063
>The automaker will also stop making the electric model of its F-150 trucks, and instead focus on extended range hybrid models and other gasoline-powered products.
so, the toyota was right the whole time.
interdastin

>>28767099
They did that and then a random guy on youtube pulled an empty aluminum trailer and it reduced the battery power by 66%, EVs are meant to trick low IQ college campus liberals

>>28767063
Is the hybrid f150 still gonna be available? I'm really liking that one over a minivan...
I know I know...
Also, I'm not sure if I trust my wife with a three ton car that can do 0 to 60 in like five seconds...

>>28776082
Yes. It also sounds like the next gen Lightning will be an electric with a gas engine for range extension.

>>28767185
Boy...

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>>28776035
How can one man be so vindicated?

>>28767289
I mean it isn't even about ford's ev range.
Look at the "Bronco" sport... Sure it's a cute little thing but it ain't no Bronco...
And it's not just Ford...
-I'm looking at you Mary cocksucking Barra and your retarded ass "BLAZER"... -

>>28776085
Yes what? The v6 hybrid is sticking around?

>>28767445
Do you think people haul construction supplies more than 60 miles away?

>>28776105
Yes, the hybrid is remaining. There will also be a future Lightning that’s going to be an extended range electric with a gas motor like what Ram does.

>>28776117
Nice.
I'm only now paying attention to hybrids, always been a bit of a luddite... OK a massive luddite...
Sounds like the nip ones that work like a teeny tiny diesel electric locomotive generator?

>>28775017
Fellow Parks Canada br/o/?

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>>28776089
they hate him because he speaks the truth.
they hate him because he doesn't suck gub'ment cock for gibs

>>28776968
the world would be a better place without "n"go's

>>28775788
I don't want to wait 10-15 minutes at a gas station sometimes. Sometimes the sketchy locals only one is the only one that won't add 20+ minutes to my trip. I want to get in not interact with anyone and leave without interacting with anyone.

It's honestly crazy how many ev zealots have such strong opinions on what people do with their $80k trucks. I'm NOT going to sit at a charger somewhere while cletus heckles my family. Saying you have to stop for a bathroom anyway is a cope because there's more stores to stop and piss at than there are gas stations. I can choose a nicer store much more readily than I can choose a nice gas station blindly on a route I'm not familiar with.

>>28776968
Toyota are just salty because Japanese companies can't produce large batteries cheaply. They don't want to buy Chinese or Korean ones.

>>28777014
what in the absolute fuck are you talking about?
sketchy local gas stations?
adding 20+ mins to your trip?

anon, in the western world, every highway is strewn with charging stations, and there's no sketchy locals hanging out at them. they're charging stations, they're automated. no creepy gas station attendant, no pushy jeet windshield washer, no aberrant youths running an illegal chop shop out the back of the place. they're fucking charging stations. you're either going to be completely alone, or worst case, some other middle class family is going to be there, in their car, waiting for the last few % before they can leave.

you also have quite a bit of freedom to choose where to stop and for how long, if you care to. you don't *have* to do it mind you, the in-car nav in any ev will happily arrange for your entire trip, including charging stops, without you having to spend 1 sec thinking about it. but, if you want to, you can absolutely manually control the process.

aside from the in-car nav which can do it, there's also several 3rd party apps, eg ABetterRoutePlanner, which you can take your time with. you can plan your trip in detail, including making sure you stop in places you prefer for whatever reason, eg because they have better food nearby or some minor tourist attraction you wanna check out. you can also optimize for your preferred charging strategy, ie fewer but longer stops vs more frequent short ones, or you can specify that a given stop is extra long because it'll happen around lunch/dinner time and have the rest of the stops adjusted to compensate

this shit is not complicated or hard, and shitloads of people do it very successfully.
so, just be fucking honest, and say that you've never actually road tripped in an EV, and you're just a contrarian faggot and/or an anti-EV shill.

>>28776103
Bronco sports AKA fake Broncos

>>28776242
>work like a teeny tiny diesel electric locomotive generator?
Essentially, yes. I think it’s a drivetrain that makes sense for large towing vehicles.

>>28777203
Are we talking about the Ram??

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>>28777033
>here's no sketchy locals hanging out at them

>>28777033
>Ev chargers are everywhere
>You need this app to find them and you must stick to major interstates or you're fucked
Yeah that's what I said. EV tards act like people don't have eyeballs when they drive. I just got done driving 9 hours yesterday and neither the sate park I went to nor the single rest stop and 3 gas stations I stopped at in bumfuck had EV chargers. In fact I just looked and the nearest charger from my destination was 20.3 miles away so the piece of shit would've cost me 40 minutes plus charge time assuming it even had the reserve range to get there.

It's shit. Poorfags buying these as a status symbol in the city are too poor to take time off work or you'd see the same things everyone buying $80k trucks do.

Meanwhile a truck with a Jerry can or aux tank couldve made the trip without ever needing tor refuel.

>You're anti EV
Nigger that's why you're a dumbfuck zealot. You're denying normal people the OPTION to own and EV with a feature they want, namely a gas range extender. It's you're anti ICE circle suck that's keeping people from wanting EVs.

Ford figured it out which is why the next lightning will be a range extended EV.

>>28776116
Do you think they don't? If you own a heating and cooling businesses you're likely servicing a metropolitan. Why do you little children even bother on subjects you have no idea about

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>>28767185
>What if America had high quality national public transport options
>China

Why do EV trannies get so fucking mad when you tell them you don't want one?

>>28777698
Sunk Cost & Buyer's remorse. Same shit as why, back in the day, console wars used to be a thing: By expressing a different preference, you're making EVfags subconsciously doubt their purchase decision, and rather than rationally process that doubt, they lash out; essentially they take your preference as a personal attack. Doubly so since electric vehicles are now a politically charged issue.

>>28767099
Sorry tranny, ev's are dead.

>>28777698
Some bizarre sense of self righteousness. Like they're saving the planet because their stupid vehicle doesn't run directly on fossil fuels, but indirectly

>>28777396
>neither the sate park I went to nor the single rest stop and 3 gas stations I stopped at in bumfuck had EV chargers
Power companies not allowing private parties resell electricity is a corpo lobby anti-consumer scam. People should be allowed to make individual contracts with charging networks, to have a charger (one of those basic token-controlled plug points) installed on the edge of their property, and get a cut of the charging fee.

>Ford figured it out which is why the next lightning will be a range extended EV.
Never understood why they tie themselves in knots coming up with tarded terminology, instead of calling them what they really are, namely series hybrids.

Remember all that money senators gave them so they can pretend they were needed?
>"yes, senator, right away. We'll be 100% ev by 2030."

2030 sounded like the fucking future 10 years ago. Now it's almost here and nobody is driving them.

>>28777698
its all drones and chink bots.
What sane person would shill for chinese cars lmao

>>28778303
EVs are the new buzzword. Just as hybrid was in the 10s and flex fuel was in the 00s.

>>28778405
And some American states [I forget which] intend to legally force EV only vehicle sales by 2050.

There is no reason why any 2 car household shouldn’t include one EV. Sure I don’t want to take it on lengthy road trips but we can just use the other car for that.

>>28778654
There are entire American states where it makes perfect sense why you shouldn't have an electric car in a 2 car household. I know you didn't think about it for more than 3 seconds but I did.

>>28778686
sorry chuddy, baseddium ion cells are good up to -40

>>28778654
I just gave an example itt. Drove out to Toledo bend State Park 9ish hrs drive time in one day. 2 cars. Raptor and a Nissan.

No EV would've done what I needed.

>Just have 1.5 children and zero friends of family
How About we deport 100 million, actual number, spics first?

>>28778654
>household
This is the key word. Renters need not apply. Even if the apartment complex puts chargers in the lots, the price to charge EVs at public chargers is absurdly expensive and an EV that is solely charged at public chargers is as expensive per mile as a gas guzzler. You have to get residential electricity prices to make EVs affordable to own.

>>28778741
That's not my problem