This thread is dedicated to all the brave anons out there who didn't go for the top engine spec.Like the>Alfa 2.0 Q4 instead of Quadrifoglio>230i instead of the 240i / M2>V6 Challengers and Ecoboom Mustangs instead of a V8>Yaris GR instead of Corolla GR>Golf GTI instead of Golf R... and many, many more.I salute you.Just answer me this: why?
>>28767146Cheaper
>>28767146I wanted rwd not AWD.
>>28767151absolute normie mindsetthis is why modern car manufacturers don't even bother making high displacement engines anymore
>>28767146Because I couldn't find one in good condition for a reasonable price with the engine I wanted, so I'll end up spending way more money and effort in the long run to do an engine swap but at least it's in good shape with a pristine interior.
>>28767146It was a first car and I didn't even pay for it.
>>28767162you're an ass.
>>28767162They could just make those engines the only option if they actually cared. Also>Normies>Being responsible with money Mega kek
>>28767162>T. Kyle who drives his mom's 2011 jeep patriot
>>28767146I got the Corolla iM instead of the Corolla hatch or any GR foolishness kek
6.2l NA v8 instead of 6.2l supercharged v8>whycouldn't afford a zl1 at the time
>>28767146>Golf GTI instead of Golf RIt's just a supercharger and drive line difference
more smiles per gallon
It was cheaper to get 10 liters and 16 cylinders than 6 liters and 12 cylinders.
>>28767146>SR5 instead of TRDi do not care for bil(((((stein)))) struts
>2014 v6 mustangI had never driven the v8 so I didn't know, but when I did the difference was huge.That said, the v6 of that year was a great car, 300 hp wasn't bad, and it drove very well, plus the person who owned it prior to me spent a pretty penny upgrading the headunit with a nice touch screen and backup cam, a viper alarm system, and other small things. Only downside is ford put in a really weak clutch on the v6 models. I had bought at very low miles (~8k) and sometimes flooring it the clutch would slip intermittently and it did not feel good. Never had this happen in other cars.
>>28767151Poorfag cope
>>28767586What's the cope? It's literally cheaper. No one said it was better
Not sure if mine counts.There was a V8 XE but it was a limited run of about 2-300 that still costs over £100k now. This was the best engine you could just walk into a dealer and buy
>>28767146Weight, simple as. I’ve owned the higher spec m235i (with LSD and sports package). Having also driven the poverty spec, the 228i/230i is a better car. The weight balance is better, it’s $10k cheaper, and for $1k you can have a tuned car that’s just as fast as the i6. The i6 handles like a pigfat mustang because half the engine hangs over the front axles, which you can never fix. Germans cope by putting race tires on their cars and driving at their home tracks against competitors with all-seasons. 4-cylinders have gotten good enough that you no longer need 8 cylinders to have fun. I do want a QV someday though in manual.
>>28767347this. I got the gti because paying 10k more in the used market for haldex awd and a bigger turbo isn't worth it to me. that and the golf r is like 500 lbs heavier.
>>28767589Don't argue with 3rd worlders. Ignore 3rd worlder posts.
I don't want to start a new thread, so I'll post this here: should I abandon my search for a (((modern))) car and just save many thousands of dollars by buying this BASE MODEL 2001 Buick Park Avenue for pennies on the dollar?>last buick model/trim with hood ornament; overpriced 'ultra' trim had recessed medallion where the hood meets the grill trim
>>28768426They're wrong wheel drive and I think they get transmission issues but these are so fucking comfy especially with the bench seat. My high school girlfriend had one that I drove a lot.
>>28768426Those are extremely comfy, and pretty reliable. Word of warning though, they are slooooow to accelerate. I guess they (literally) geared them for old people, so don't expect much get up and go even with the v6.
>>28768426>3.8it will probably outlast you
>>28768426Yes.The 3800 is insanely reliable. If Buick is anything like Pontiac for those model years, the rustproofing on that thing should be second to none.You could probably drive that thing for the rest of your life if you just kept replacing the engine every 200-300k miles. I doubt we'll ever run out of 3800's. There were like 25 million made.
>>28768426>>28768613>>28768622The 3800 is good but it dosen't help much when every other part is burned garbage
>>28767596Project 8 didn't exist at the point this car was made in 2015 or in the case of your 2016 one. So it doesn't count.
I got my 19 wrx with 19k miles on it for $25k and the VA STI at similar mileage was minimum $10k more in every listing.That's a lot more money and put it out of my budget.
>Golf GTI instead of Golf Rbecause thats the only place the power should ever be
>>28767146QV is rwd and I wanted AWD
>>28768426>1 OWNER LO MILESkek
>>28767152should have just used xdelete
Idk I got a BMW 316i because having a larger displacement in Euroland means a lot more tax
>>28767596>Project 8>GTAm>Turbo GT-W (Manthey soon)Cracked out OEM track sedan is my favorite genre of car
>Golf GTI instead of Golf RI don't need a hatch that does 0-60 in 4 seconds and takes premium. I just want the cheapest new car that isn't a compromised econopile, and in Canada the GTI is it. At $39.5k (~28k USD) there's nothing else decent around that price except the Civic Hybrid and MAYBE the Sonata N-Line
>>28767146>didnt go for the top engine spec>implies 240i is the same as the M2>implies 2 different vehicles in completely different segments are somehow the lower engine spec???>a fucking golf
>>28770483I'm not sure I understand. I also didn't want the added weight or complexity from the rb25 and it's associated weird transaxle.
my engine is like 4.5 liters larger than the base engine for my car.
>>28767362>NY Physician plateTrust fund babby and/or (((tribe))) member detected
>>28767146>>Yaris GR instead of Corolla GRThe Corolla is the cope car. Yaris GR was the actual race car clone.
>>28770623nobody tell him
>>28767151cuck
>Golf GTI instead of Golf RThe cars have so much in common that a price delta of $16,000 is insane. The comfort features and build quality of the R is all there on the base trim GTI. You're missing out on an overhyped sound system with 2 more speakers and a sunroof that'll leak when the warranty ends. Yes, the Golf R is in a whole different league of performance. Yes, I would trade my GTI for an R in a heartbeat if money was no object. But I'm poor. That's why I have a base trim GTI, so there you go.
>>28767360*more regrets per gallon
I've never been in this boat before, literally every car I've ever owned had the biggest engine possible (unless you consider GT500 as being at all related to the Mustang) but I'm about to. Buying a new F150 during the next big sales event and I'm getting the 2.7L. I'm getting mixed information if the newer versions of the 3.5 is any good or not, I'm not sure if I can trust it given its reputation, and the new V8s are so cucked it's not even worth it anymore.
>>28771476>500 miles to a tank>no gay cylinder deactivation or cheese cams like V8>takes e85 and regular unlike primo-omly V8>lighter than V8>handles better than V8>cheaper insurance than V8>won't get stolen like V8no regretschally is lovechally is life
>>28767146>scat pack chally, not hellcatbecause 700 horse in a daily driver is too much overkill when a slightly less powerful version exists
>>28771493>won't get stolen like V8No wonder.
>>28771504no wonder what you dumb fucking esl thirdiefinish a sentence
I would have bought an IS300 but there were none for sale so I had to buy an IS200.
I bought a 2.0L Impreza instead of a 2.5L because the 2.0L is supposedly more reliable[spoiler]it was actually about money[/spoiler]
>>28771501>because 700 horse in a daily driver is too much overkillwhy are you here thenthis board is for enthusiasts only, you're not one
>>28771519Even first graders write better than you, dumbass phone poster.
230i is lightest, nimblest and is precisely as fast as it needs to beI explicitly didn't select any homosexual """"""sport"""""" ricing trim, it looks like a normal classic BMW without looking tryhardyI tried asking what I'm actually getting going up to B58 on this board and received only GAY SOUND memes in response, so I kind of gave up
>>28771486An Ecoboost F150 is a mistake. Get one if you want, but I am telling you now that it's a mistake.
>>28771844based B48 enjoyer
>>28771599>projectinggo buy a V8 about it little man
>>28772267I'm good, I already have 2.+ Viperi.e. cope, autotragic cylinderlet
>>28771963You can tell me whatever you want but literally everyone disagrees with you. Even Ford mechanics say to avoid the new V8s because they're so bad.
>>28767146Had no choice, I got an abandoned Nissan Pulsar NX for free with the ga16i instead of the ca18de and spent a lot of money and time restoring it
>>28767146low trim weighs less so has slightly less understeer.>tfw 903 cc instead of 1300 cc
>>28768613timing chain is a bit sus.
>>28772284>the turbo engine is more reliable in my head
>>28771493this reads like massive cope
>>28770498just how much more tax?I imagine you pay € 200 a year for a 316i, how much would a 335i cost? € 2000?
>>28772282sure you do, short kingyour viper barely moves because you're a broke pussy with a lawn ornament who can't afford to drive it within 3/10ths of the way I drive my v6 challenger. the only reason you have that car is to flex on your tinder datesme?I drive
>>28774965get new material
>>28771844On top of the better sound, the 240 is smoother and doesn't gas out past 80km/h. But yes the 230 is underrated in that it's more than quick enough, has a lighter nose than the 240, and gets great fuel economy.
>>28776915For 316i current fee is 280€For a 330i N52 it would be around 930€335i I think was 3L N54 or N55 so it would again be around 930€Factoring in that the cheapest(“95” octane) fuel costs about 1.6€ per liter, that insurance would also be higher(currently is about 250€ a year) and that the average Greek makes less than 1000€ a month, a 3L car would be really expensive to maintain alongside a normal life.Also the IRS or whatever would be on your ass for owning such a “large” engines car
>>28776937Sorry, can't hear your quiver lipped mumbling over my straight piped V10.
>>28767146I can afford a 40k car not a 60k one.
>>28777071does 20k really make that much of a difference in this sort of price range?
>>28777071Me but then I drop 15k on mods the first year
>>28777737kek, so true
>>28767596How hard is it to swap out a V6 with a V8 in one of those? Gotta be a few 5.0L from donor range rovers.
> got base spec because only upgrades are leather seats/suspension>2 years later Mazdaspeed comes outWell at least I still drive my 02.
>>28777737Why are you modifying the bank's car?
>>28767146thought i couldnt afford the turbo motor when i bought my car though i should have because it turned out i started making good money only a few months after buying it and now the turbo ones are nearly 3x the price they were 5 years ago or the same price as mine but with 300000kms and flogged beyond belief
>>28777050I can't hear your straight piped V10 either because you're a gay europoor and aren't allowed to drive it on a public roadalso the viper does not sound all that good desu, pentastar absolutely rapes it in that regard. just stick with the twingo, Pierre.
