It would look better with RWD
>>28768112>t would look better with RWDmeh, AWD is good enough for me
>>28768135Is it even real AWD?
>>28768103>sedan>>28768156Haldex, but I think there's some fuckery you can do to get it more RWD biased
>>28768166>sedanYes bitch?
>>28768170Why would you get a boring ass sedan from the premier wagon manufacturer?
>>28768174Because wagons are gay and look like a baby has shit in his diaper, that's why.
>>28768103This was really the peak of Volvo.
>>28768175>he says while praising a base model S60
>>28768177Yes? That car has peak aesthetics. Still shines like a king whenever I spot one on the roads. Confident but also not too overdone. Its every angle is peak aesthetics.
>>28768182Has the same styling as every Ford era Volvo.
>>28768182>>28768188almost forgot
>>28768191That black Volvo sedan will never look not presidential.
>>28768219the king of Sweden has a stretched diesel S80
>>28768219>>28768252forgot pic
>>28768103It's a very pretty car, very comfortable and the inline 5 sounds great. The steering racks go bad.
I'd drive a Vulva.
>>28768103I wonder if the police specials of older volvos are still around
>>28768175trash taste
I drive the Subaru version
>>28768191S80 with the Yamaha V8 was really the peak for that era of Volvo.I used to think they looked good but now I just see them as deebly goncerned bars of soap.
>>28768156nobody has coherently explained to me what real AWD is and how it differs from the "fake" kind other than suggesting that always-on AWD is "real"
My parents had an S60 2.5T AWD that they got when I was a high school. It eventually apparently died on the highway somewhere and they had it towed to the dealer and it was a hassle to get it replaced and they never got a Volvo again - replaced it with an Acura TL. It was a nice car but the steering was kinda eh and there was some torque steer, I mean the AWD mostly resolved it but it wasn't perfect. The turbo mostly made boost in high revs and it was a bit gutless at low ones. Lots of fun to wring out. I barely got to drive it, somehow my parents went on vacation and I drove it to school going as fast as possible, cop pulled me over, told him I was late for a test, and he let me go with a warning. Also it had the "sport" package and that meant bigger wheel and the wheels were too big for the wells and would scrape when you turned it hard.
>>28768575Haldex cars tend to be heavily front wheel biased, so they handle like FWD cars until the wheels start to slip.
>>28768580wouldn't it waste a huge amount of fuel and wear the clutch out way sooner to have the AWD system ALWAYS on? I guess you just mean "real" AWD is always transferring power to the rear wheels?>Haldex cars tend to be heavily front wheel biasedwell, the volvo I had in the early 2000s and the Kia I have now are both FWD based AWD but the AWD is much smoother in the Kia and when you floor it there's less jiggle it's very very subtle. I mean yeah, around bends it kinda sucks you aren't gonna go as fast as a RWD car, but the tradeoff is more space inside.
>>28768581It's not a huge amount, but yeah they do use more fuel.
>>28768575>haldex system which sends 95 percent of the torque to the front wheels under normal driving conditions and can send up to 30 percent to the rear wheels as necessary.You're a fwd car most of the time and at best you're 70% front, 30% rear. Compare that to true AWD systems that are always 50/50.
>>28768188>Has the same styling as every Ford era Volvo.Ford era Jag also had the best styling
>>28770151I didn't know Stevie Wonder posted on /o/
>>28770154>I didn't know Stevie Wonder posted on /o/OK Zoomer, I guess this is your sort of thing then, right?
>>28770151>>28770159both of these are hideous, nice strawman though
>>28768103>>28768182lmao
>>28770151Yeah, no.
>>28770151Gonna have to agree to disagree there, champ
>>28768575If the engine is longitudinal, it's true AWD. If it's transverse, it's FWD with assist.
>>28770159It's no MG4 but it's does look good
>>28770303Gonna have to agree to disagree there, champ
>>28768103*how
>>28768103My autism/OCD absolutely hates cars that incorporate the side windows as an overall shape, without maximizing the visual DLO (daylight opening) by leaving the pillars unpainted. Just like the MK4 Jetta in particular, or a multitude of what are typically cheap economy cars, as far as sedans go at least.The distance from the door to the front wheel opening also is a dead giveaway that it's FWD, which considering that this was intended to be a compact exec 3 Series/C Class competitor, is not exactly a positive thing either.Since I'm bored I decided to see what it'd look like with a slightly longer wheelbase, a slightly wider track and the B pillar blacked out. Still not what I'd call peak, but slightly closer in my opinion.
>>28770359couple of ugly mugs in this picturelooks like a ford taurus
>>28770768looks pretty clean, i'll black that side window pillar out if i ever get this volvo
>>28768579>2.5Twell theres your problem
>>28771822>have this exact model>the car is blackoh well i tried
>>28773766what was the problem with that engine?
>>28768103C30 looks better
>>28773882I vastly prefer the more rectangular headlights on the pre-facelift
>>28770340Bad take altho generally true up to a point.Its really the case of differential and power distribution. Evos, Delta Integrales and a few oddballs like the Alfa 159 Q4 have a true AWD system with multiple differentials and power going to all four wheels all the time. Some longitudinal cars like BMW xdrive and Merc 4Matic are essentially RWD with assist.
>>28768103Correct
>>28773888Yes, they do look better
>>28773882>Rear window leaks a gallon of water in your path
>>28774893Please, anon. It's the sunroof drain that leaks on these.
>>28774908What color is your C30?
>>28774941Silver and leak free
>>28774893>>28774908Mine hasn't leaked yet but I feel like the windows fog up more than in other cars
>>28775182When's the last time you checked your cabin air filter? It's kinda a bitch to get to so most people neglect it.
>>28775185I hadn't thought about that
>>28768103looks like a worse a4
>>28775202Good luck. It involves taking the gas pedal off.
>>28775207More or less. Easier to work on though.
>>28768175how does a wagon look like that to you
>>28775207Nah, definitely better looking than the B5, but worse than the B6
people think its a piece of shit but i like it
c30 gang approved thread>>28777953noice
>>28773888kinda looks like new cayenne
>>28778129a few minor differences, but I can see it
>>28770151ElegantUnderstatedAggressive with a hint of feline character>>28770303Frog faced MF
Volvos might be the only cars that always look better as wagons.
>>28775253I bet you never had "joy" working on front b5 suspension
