Toyota turns new Lexus ES interior into Tesla clone with nicer materials. Bye bye v6. You either get the same engine as a Camry - or you have to get it as a full EV.But at least - Thankfully, this is one of those cabins that feels a lot better in person than it presents in manicured press pictures because it’s not that the ES lost all that many buttons. It just learned to hide them better. See that bar below the touchscreen with temperature controls and seat presets? Those may look like capacitive touchpoints (à la the Nissan Ariya or any new Mercedes), but they’re actual buttons that click in — that matte black material feels like rubber, not hard plastic.
>>28772388L E X U SI hate it so much.Also who started the horrible trend of having your primary gauge cluster, or display, be a single slab that has no top/side shades to prevent glare? There is a reason we had that for years in cars and continue to have them on planes. It's fucking dangerous to not have it, and you're part of the problem if you buy a car without it.
>>28772388ES cars are for boomers or Asians.Both have no soul left.So it'll probably be popular.
>>28772388Did the Direct4-whatever thing ever turn into anything sensible, I remember there being a mule car with 20(f):80(r) hybrid system.
Does this mean V6 camrys are coming back? :D
>>28772388Asian market is moving towards Tesla style. Japan will move there as well. This means China, Japan, all of Asia. US is lagging due to petty political propaganda fights. Technological progress is happening at rapid speed in China. Virtually all new cars in China is a Tesla clone
>>28773593they could still make it what it should be - a limo sized camry with a nice interior instead of this garbage >>28773691if they were smart they would make a Camry TRD again with the v6>>28773700eliminating physical buttons is the opposite of progress, it's dangerous cost cutting that will continue unless people have terrible accidents because they had to adjust stuff while driving on a screen and it killed them and only then will manufacturers relent>Virtually all new cars in China is a Tesla clonebecause the country produces a bunch of batteries and all they can do is copy existing designsthey have no ideas of their own, no skill
>>28773708Gas cars in the world havent changed since they were first invented in early 1900s. EVs and self driving cars are the real innovation to the car industry thats been stagnant for a century.
>>28773713some gas engines are newer and smoother than others
>>28772388>Toyota turns new Lexus ES interior into Tesla clone with nicer materials.I don't know who hired the losers to head the design divisions of mega conglomerate companies, but even my dumb ass knows that Toyota's customers are more conservative on average, and they are not going to appreciate that they have to re-learn how to use a car again.But you know what, I was never going to be a Lexus customer anyways so what does my opinion matter on all of this?
>>28772388Amazing. They used better materials and still managed to make it worse than Tesla.
>>28773760It looks less cheap and slightly more functional than Tesla, but it has no elegant design elements and would be better off with normal buttons and dials.
>>28772388>massive dead pedal like you'd see in a dump-truck>capacitive buttons on steering wheel>capacitive buttons all over the dash>xbox-huge bezel around the screen reminiscent of first-gen iPadYou can even see the backlight bleeding on the gauge screen. Good job Lexus you fucking retards
>>28773782so the buttons LOOK like capacitative buttons, but aren't, at least the ones on the dash I think
>>28773785>be toyota>make it look like the thing everybody hates>but actually spend the money to make it good>????>profitfucking riceniggers, i swear to god they're trying to commit corporate sudoku
>>28773700I think I’ve seen two teslas in the past 3 years here in japan.
>>28773785>>28773786> so the buttons LOOK like capacitative buttons, but aren'tthis is honestly a good idea. Women and the simps who try to impress them (jeets, tech bros, etc) like that shit, so sell it to them in a way that isn’t totally bad.
>>28773787Yeah, its a surprise why Japan is lacking but I think its due to how Japanese car market is controlled by local regulatory agency. I read somewhere that recently Japan was putting forth the idea of allowing Teslas to be promoted there by that agency as part of US Japan trade deal
>>28773789what a cynical manner of beingmy theory is it will take a few years then real buttons and dials will be a feature only luxury cars have and it will go back into fashion
>>28772388Another reason to never give up my aging Q45.
>>28773798they should make a new Q45 but this time a wagon with a purposefully NA v8
>>28773792>Japanese car market is controlled by local regulatory agency.sounds shadowy!
>>28773700Grim
>>28772388to think the ES once had an option for a 5 speed
>>28773700Progress is when cheap plastic and daisy-chained jeet software
>>28772388We're really reaching the point in which old shit is actually just better. Full stop. Old is better. We're going backwards, at full speed. Will the next refresh even make it outof the factory without throwing a rod?
>>28774067Jeets are stuck in the same combustion engine like America is.
>>28774069The ES sedan was never really its own thing. It was always a stretched Camry with leather. They are more focused on their SUVs. I think making it an EV is a way to try to kill it. They want an excuse to say it sold poorly and only make SUVs. SUVs have bigger profit margins.
>>28774072Having [camry with leather] is one of the staples of the auto industry, and it's really a good thing. Parts interchangeability? Sign me up! Gm sold the A/G body from 1968 until 1988 under chevy, pontiac, oldsmobile, and buick. Same exact car, especially ~1973 onwards after engine consolidation, and they were the best selling cars of the era.Having that killed for 10 marginally different suv platforms is tragic, especially because you don't even get the fucking leather anymore, it's leather appointed, essentially a mixture of pleather and bonded leather
>>28773801That's basically just an FX50. Just lower one.
the amount of retards praising the old es since the debut of this new one is insaneit's a mediocre car, and a bad luxury car(and has been for many years)it hasn't been notable since since the second and third generation
