I want to get a V6 that isn't obnoxious to wrench, and is around or under $20,000. Anyone have any good ideas?
>>28773118ram 1500 v6dodge durango v6
>>28773118LS3>but...LS3.
>>28773118>I want to get a V6Don't
>>28773118Why would you ever go out of your way to get a six cylinder car? They're unremarkable in every way and four and eight cylinders will sound better.
>>28773221Because they tend to be lighter and sportier.
>>287731183.7 stangs are genuinely good
>>28773265>and sportier.By being making less power and sounding worse? What sort of literal retarded cope is this?
>>28773118Honda with J series V6either get a manual or one that's old enough that it doesn't have VCM and you're golden
>>28773118You will buy a 350z and that is final.
anything with a pentastar or vq
>>28773118ford ranger!
Obnoxious to wrench? Wtf does that even mean?? Maybe try a V6 Camry
>>28773404X2, available in s197 or s550. Just beware the 2011 and 2012 model years, those had the bad driveshaft that can grenade if you go over 120 mph or so. They also sound way better than they deserve to with a exhaust on them. Easy 500 to the tire on stock bottom end with the mafia racing Turbo kit. My buddy had one for a while and it was genuinely a fun car. It's almost a shame that they're cursed to live in the shadow of the V8 cars because they genuinely were the American 370z.>>28773440Also a good choice for trugg stuff
3.7L Ford Cyclone in RWD configuration
>>28773265Heavier than an i4Slower than a v8All cope
>>28773118>I want to get a V6Why? V6 is the engine you get when you can't afford a V8. They're the compromise, the boring one.
>>28773118idk, v6 seems briddy crammed in there.there are some older cars that can fit a v8 but come fitted with shorter engines.
>>28773118Huh, it just occurred to me why V6's are widely regarded as an inherently inferior cylinder layout
Early 2000s taurus.
>>28774526>>28774732>>28775468>>28775524You do know some people want a car that can have some speed but also not rev twice and drain the gas tank, right? And since the OP is about cars under $20,000, that automatically deletes all your poorly designed German slop
>>28773118Anything with a vq37vhr made after 2010
>>28775524the issue with V6 isn't balance, it's the mechanical complexity of two cylinder heads without the huge displacement (and power) of a V8
>>28773118The GM 3.8's are genuinely bombproof and will outlive the goddamn chassis IF you keep up on their maintenance, they're a little fucky to get into but not obnoxious like the modern-day European thingsOnly other bulletproof V6 I have experience wrenching is the Essex V6, but you're not gonna find one in a car for under $20K nowadays
>>28773118GrandAm and I'm not even joking
>>28775524Balance is a meme. A simple GTR takes a massive diarrhea shart all over your "balanced" meme engine.
>>28773118>I want to get a V6don't think I've ever read a more pathetic thing in my life.
>>28776492>makes less power than an over decade old 'stangIs this is the power of imbalance?
>>28776493>More than you can afford, pal
>>28776511Who in their right mind wants that over an '05-'07?
>>287731182013-2017 v6 accord coupe/touring2012-2016 vr6 passat se/sel2014-2019 3.6l cts v-sport>>28776515I'd say the 2017 version has striking looks, and of course is faster; it's just not a reproduction of the gt40.
>>28776515if you are even considering buying a new GT then you probably have the old one already
>>28774526faster than a i4 (NA)lighter than a v8flippy bippy
>>28775524the "balance" cope is wrenchlette fuda 90 degree v6 is unbalanced a 60 or 120 degree v6 with a sequential firing order is balanced a 180 degree flat six like porsches have isn't balanced but because it is essentially a boxer the 3rd order oscillation that a 90 degree V6 would otherwise have is counteractedbasically the balance issue comes from the old days when V6s were derived from v8s by lopping two cylinders off. V6s haven't been made this way for nearly 40 years. no modern v6 incorporates a balance shaft. All of them are 60 degrees with a 1-2-3-4-5-6 firing order and drive so smoothly people forget they're there.
>>28773118used honda odyssey
>>28777771>transmission explodesnothin personnel
>>28776920>the "balance" cope is wrenchlette fudyes>90 degree v6 is unbalancedyes>60 or 120 degree v6 with a sequential firing order is balancedno.>a 180 degree flat six like porsches have isn't balanced but ...also noand don't quit your day job to become an engineer>basically the balance issue comes from the old days when V6s were derived from v8s also also noso, here's the skinny-no v6 is perfectly balanced by itself. they ALWAYS have a primary imbalance. you ALWAYS need counterweights or balancing shafts-but that doesn't matter, because IRL we DO add counterweights/balancing shafts, so they are perfectly balanced in practice. yes, at the cost of extra rotating mass somewhere, no, that's isn't significant.-the bank angle is important because it controls the timing of the firing of the cylinders. the timing cycle of a 4 stroke engine is 720 degrees (2x 360, because the crank needs to rotate twice before you fire the same cylinder again). and, 720/6 = 120. so, 120deg is the v6 bank angle that naturally gives you the correct, evenly spaced firing interval-except ofc, 120deg bank angle is stupid, its FAR too wide, and only ever used in race cars and the like. iirc there's some le mans cars that used it? or f1?-the way to fix this is with offset crank pins. so, instead of opposite cylinders sharing the same crank pin, which would result in an uneven firing interval on anything except 120deg, you split the crank pin into 2, and arrange it so that they are offset in such a way so that the cylinders fire evenly. and you can do this with 90 and 60deg v6s-so, between counterweights/balancing shafts and offset crank pins, we can make a v6 that is perfectly balanced and has the correct even firing interval >inb4 muh v8yes, a v8 is better, but poor americans and rich euros need something cheaper>inb4 muh 2 headsfor poor euros and 3rd worlders, i4s are also a thing>muh i6too long, too tall, too heavy. good for turbo diesels, but that's about it.
