Stop looking at homosexual shit
For real. In Canada five-six year old cars are $20,000-25,000. Ten year old cars are still in high teens. People will be peddling shit with 250,000-300,000kms like they're low mileage. Infuriating.
>he buys used carsi hope you like smelling the farts of every previous driver every time you get in a vehicle. could never be me
>>28775208Used prices are high because people are lining up to overpay for used vehicles. Want to fix this? Buy new and tell others to buy new. Or better yet lease or tell them to lease so there's more low mileage vehicles on the used market.
>>28775225>I can't afford a used car>so buy a new onesmart
>>28775208>five-six year old cars are $20,000-25,000What the fuck did I say you dumb bitch?>>28775197
because planned obsolescencemobiles are undesirable
>>28775180Used cars are expensive because our currency is shit. Currency is deteriorating faster than it ever has, so every year your dollar buys less and less shit, to the point to where it looks like used cars are even appreciating because people need more money to buy the same amount of car.
>>28775240If you can only afford a used car that's perfectly fine. Buy a reasonably priced used car. Don't go finance a 4 year old used vehicle at $3k less than the sticker on a new one.
>>28775180The idea that "Used cars should be cheap" stems from at time when automakers were churning out unreliable, disposable garbage. People would buy poorly engineered tin cans brand-new, use them for a few years, and then throw them away like a used condom since 90% of the life was gone. If you were the type of person who would take a used condom out of the dumpster, wash the dirt and semen out of it, and then put the loose rubber on your own dick, that was on you.As the Japanese went crazy for automotive quality and the rest of the world had to rise to their level to be in any way competitive, new cars got more expensive while being better built. Those who sell their cars after a few years aren't disposing of a worn-out condom, they still have a nice, well-built, reliable car on their hands that they're selling. A $40,000 MSRP 7 year old modern car with 100,000 miles on it selling for $20,000 is soooooooo much nicer and has more life in it than any brand-new American car would've been in 1990. The Plymouth Sundance sold for $11,000 in 1990, which is $27,000 adjusted for today. Try to find a used car that is worse than a 93HP Sundance for $27,000. You can't do it. Try to find a used car that is worse than the $18,000 Turd Gen Firebird/Camaro for $44,000. You can't do it. The used car you're spending your money on is MUCH better than the equivalent new car 35+ years ago which is why you're not seeing them sold as though they're trash and why people are willing to buy them as though they're not trash, because they're not trash.Those who don't have the money to buy new still have the money to buy this emergent tier of good quality used cars. The market has shifted from people disposing of their cars every 3-5 years to people hanging on to them for 7-10 before selling with them still having 7-10 more years left, Why should a 2018 Lexus ES 350 with 100,000 miles on it sell for $500 when it's probably going to go 250,000 miles?
>>28775180Primarily longer loan terms. It tends to drive prices up since people stare at the monthly payment instead of total cost.
>>28775285What do you think new cars are? They're even more shit than before.
>>28775311Ah yes, because this...
>>28775334... is so much nicer than this.
>>28775336lmao
>>28775285...What in the fuck are you even talking about? Did you just make all of that shit up?
>>28775338That car's $122,000 adjusted for inflation.The RS5 is $80,000.
>>28775336i agree the pontiac interior is indeed nicer
>>28775343>"There are no differences between these two cars! The one on the right should sell for the same in 2025 as the one on the left would have in 2013!"
>>28775351You're still making up words
>>28775352Can you not see there was an uptick in quality between 1985 and 1997?
>>28775351>>28775353*and in a stroke of serendipity, the pic of the 1985 on the left *IS* from an article from 2013.So the one on the left actually had its picture taken a year younger than the 1997 on the right, which is from a 2024 auction.And y'all are asking why the one on the right hasn't depreciated the same as the one on the left given the same respective ages? Why would you think you'd get it for $500 when it's not the same thing?
>>28775353I don't care. I already deducted that you're a retard and you don't have anything worthwhile to say when you started making up bullshit within the first sentence of your original post.>A $40,000 MSRP 7 year old modern car with 100,000 miles on it selling for $20,000 is soooooooo much nicer and has more life in it than any brand-new American car would've been in 1990My fucking ass you nigger. You sound like you've never done any upkeep on a car in your life and you're just basing shit on surface level "NEW = GOODER AND LAST LONGER" like a 13 year old. I wouldn't be surprised if you're that Mach-E nigger in Ontario.
>>28775353It's true but it has nothing to do with used car prices, neither do interiors neither do specs. You're in midwit hell if you can't understand this.
>>28775360>"the fact that a 1997 model is nicer after 29 years than a 1985 was right off the showroom floor has nothing to do with why the 1997 has kept its value more than the 1985 did!"Okay. It was surely all Cash for Clunkers, amirite?
>>28775358>he thinks all cars are the sameJesus fucking Christ.
>>28775180US car market is dying. US population is urbanizing and having less kids so the need for a car is less. Car makers though they could get around that problem by only building luxury cars, bloated CUVs, and +$80k trucks. American consumer who didn't magically have more money to throw at their car payment were kicked into the used car market driving prices up. The only people still in the new car market are wealthier people willing to buy those overpriced trucks and CUVs so when they trade it in the residual value is higher driving used car prices higher still. Doesn't help that every corpo boardroom has techbro envy so they think they have to bring in massive profit margin or die, another reason to kill cheap nameplates and stick $10k markups on every car sold by loading up in worthless techogadgets like heated seats and navfotainment
>>28775180Used cars getting more expensive is a sign of a declining economy. People can't afford new so they buy used, demand for used cars goes up so price also goes up, alongside this "hustle culture" becomes more and more commonplace so you have a ton of people trying to make money by flipping used cars or just about anything they can get their hands on which is the final nail in the coffin.
>>287752086-7
>>28775362Nigger you literally can't see the forrest for the trees. Midwit hell.
>>28775452The forest is made up of the trees, retard, and the trees have changed, which is why people are willing to pay a different price for them.There are examples of bad cars that you can pick up for a song, like the Nissan Leaf. Those are still better than 70's and 80's copemobiles. The rest of modern cars are better than the Leaf which is why they go for more. Are you really having a hard time understanding that "better" = "more valuable"?
>>28775180No they aren't. Oh, you meant in Muttland? Eh, sucks for you.
>>28775180Same shit happened to the USSR.Used cars were often more expensive than used by a huge margin.People knew the new car quality was worse and didn't want to deal with it.
>>28775285>$18,000 Turd Gen Firebird/CamaroNigga, $18K got you a fully decked out Z28.Most were $11,000-$12,000 RS models.And they were kick ass.
>>28775481US is a communist nation proven yet again.
>>28775483It has the performance of a Honda Odyssey with none of the amenities while getting worse gas mileage.
>>28775505In the late 80s early 90s F-bodies were one of the best handling cars around.Acceleration of a 245hp V8 sounds shit today, but back then that was a lot of power Sub 6 second 0-60 is nothing to scoff at back then.The decked out C4 Corvettes for example were around $30,000+
>>28775180cars have computers inside, which use ram. it is estimated that 10% of the cost of a car in november is the ram alone
>>28775285>The Plymouth Sundance sold for $11,000 in 1990, which is $27,000 adjusted for todayPeople earned more in 1990. Median weekly income for employed adult men in 1990 was about $33.3k per year, or, using your 27/11 ratio for inflation, about $82k today. Actual median income for adult men was about $66k in 2024.I think it's better to just compare the car price to salary. The $11k Sundance was a little bit less than 4 months of gross salary. In 2024, four months of gross salary gives you a budget of a little bit under $22k.
>>28775631And by that metric a new Sundance cost the same as a 7 year old 100,000 mile Lexus ES 350 does now.I'll take the ES 350.
>>28775285While you're right that new tech does make things better for the average consumer, and that the newer car is much better than what came before, you're also dismissing the fact that those newfangled gizmos are much more expensive as well, so any reliability good goy points you want to give them are moot in the end. Sure, we don't have to replace a rubber timming belt every 60K miles anymore for example, for for every single one of those improvements we also have garbage like LED headlights, which take forever to break, but when they do, it's almost 1K to have them replaced. Not even because of labor, the light housing itself is 1K
>>28775336Nicer =/= better Retard
>>28775285The inconvenient truth. People keep wanting more and more while paying less. Nobody today would accept driving a 90's shitbox. Our standards are way higher yet we want all that shit for free. I just upgraded from a 2007 shitbox to a 2019 one and the upgrade in just about every aspect of a car were huge. It felt like moving from a 90's PC that barely worked half the time to a modern top specced PC where everything is just smooth and easy. This is funny because the same people have no objections paying $1200 for an iPhone, without realizing the rationale is the exact same.
>>28775371>US population is urbanizingWrong. Suburbs are where the majority of people live and suburban growth continues to outpace urban growth.
>>287757262019 is basicallly a brand new car.
>>287757462019 was 6 years ago, anon.
>>28775180because cattle willingly take out $30k loans for 8 year old cars with 150k miles
>>28775211>Buys a heavily used Fiat 500
>>28775749Which is basically brand new. If your car can't legally drink its not even close to being old.
>>28775211We all know you don't own a car. Why lie?
>>28775285modern cars are unreliable cheap garbage tho
>>28775351that lexus is very special and collectable
>>28775763Did Misty drive that?
Good. Most of your shitheads should be on the bus anyway.
>>28775180Have you tried not being poor?
>>28775180Because people need them, and they're less expensive than new cars. Basic supply/demand.
>>28775180>adopt neocolonialist policies to ensure line keeps going up>now there's hundreds of millions of brownoids competing with your kids for the same resources you got for a small fraction of the price you paid when you were their ageNot my problem, should have had rich parents
>>28776608jew mentality.
inflation and long term car loans. all things being equal, long term car loans increase demand for cars which raises prices.
>>28775733But now even suburbs are urbanizing with most new construction within them looking like picrel.
They found out retards will go, "oh I can save $3,500 on my car!" For a 4 year old vehicle with over 50k miles because even the average normie goes "wow! 20k miles! That's practically new!" And so those vehicles cost 95% of brand new.
>>28775920that pizza looks bland
>>28775344Here is one I found for sale for six thousand dollars.
>>28777753>Modern cars look like shit>Modern housing looks like shit>Every country looks like this with slight variationHow am I supposed to take anything new seriously?
>>28775211Every car gets farted in so many times from the time it leaves the factory to you driving it off the lot.
>>28778421forgot pic :(
>>28775211That's one of the best parts. I like to forcibly displace their farts with my own loud nuclear farts to assert dominance on the previous owners.
