Welcome to the Auto Vidya General, the thread for discussion of racing and driving games. Not chinkshit peripherals or ecelebs.Don't forget to participate in the Automation/BeamNG event.Previous thread >>28768959>Wikihttps://get-good.net>MumbleIP: mumble.get-good.netPort: 64738Password: 4ch>Chathttps://chat.get-good.net>Equipment Guidehttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uLKMbKwweUZ3QvFeNs8UeycZbDyo0McxGj7T6uTaTNo>Check the doc for the latest info. We're currently racing touring cars in AC on Saturdays. GT3 in LMU and hillclimb in AC soon™.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vlVjNh8r6o_KYUFHf7Hcp8ZaYS5lsEZwFvTeu_K_c1Q/edit?gid=2067389525>We're decompiling the classic PC game Whiplash and rebuilding it for modern hardware! The game is currently playable (with a few bugs). Check out the GitHub:https://github.com/Zizin13/ROLLER
One thing about street fights... the street always wins
>>28775610>hillclimb in AC soon™.autobeam challenge is even later than that.
>>28775610>>We're decompiling the classic PC game Whiplash and rebuilding it for modern hardware!Thats awesome
>>28775633give me a key and I will say nice things about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWlXvDKi39g
>>28775633No surprises there. AC has massive hillclimbing mod community, and they're Italian afterall.>>28775669it's two mcdonalds, idk why are racingchads are so cheap when games require rigs that cost 3000€ minimum.
>BREAKINGhe boughted a 2nd sim rig solely to play GT7 with!that’s how much he’s enjoying the game now
>>28775804If i was made out of money id probably do the same. I do have a g29 laying around that I could use for gt7 but I dont really wanna go back to a gear driven wheel, and the game isn't good enough for me to want to do that.
>>28775837I have enough dough laying around that I have a Fanatec DD+ that I didn't sell and use it occasionally for my PS5 running GT7. Being fairly honest, the force feedback in GT7 for Direct drive bases is nowhere near as dialed as in PC sims so it really just feels like a heavier/dampened T300 with no road feel or sufficient feedback that warrants using a DD in Gran Turismo. I highly suggest the T-GT II over any direct drive since it was made in conjunction with GT7's development and actually gives more feedback
I can't Sachsesring
kyoto is a based track
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>>28775846>I'm Wario when I'm in Mario Kartno shit.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMgkt9jdjTU
Am I retarded for finding it more fun to drive my rig in beamng than AC? The automation testing map has some amazing roads.
>>28775842>turn right a few times>turn left a few more timesLiterally this ezpz
>>28775859no because AC fucking SUCKS
GT7 is dogshit
>>28775928OK, glad its not just me. The only thing I like AC for is the sound of a few specific cars. Once AC gets a sound revamp its over.
>>28775981>Once ACBeam*
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>>28776232we running rf2 boxmasters/robin again?
>>28776233No just posting old ovg screenshots I had. Hoping it might inspire thread posters to join the fun.
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>>28775731Its not about being cheap,Clearly I said that I would say nice things about it in exchange for a free key. Is that not how sim racing marketing works? The cars bog down while trying to reel the car back in from being sideways.
>>28775859Beam is more fun. They just need to bring the tire update. AC copelets will nerd out about driving on the limit, but in beam im just driving cars like I stole them and its hilariously FUN which is the key point of gaming
>>28776342he vibin
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>>28776347ZIZIN
>>28776325thoughts on this mod?https://www.beamng.com/threads/tire-physics-mod-ggt.104954/
>>28776325you sound like the v6 chally zoomer. are you the v6 chally zoomer?
>>28776457Im older than you, boy. I would also never drive a challenger even if it had 7000 hp
>>28776463so 7001?
>>28776450haven't tried it. I have filman86's "high polly tires mod" and its cool but really the last thing that I want to when I sit down to game is play menu simulator trying to figure out settings. All of these mods need tinkering and im kinda good on that. On the other hand its cool to have the freedom to set things how you want.
>>28776468I don’t think you need to tinker with that specific mod. It feels amazing out of the box
>>28776230Kinda bummed I missed /ovg/ race with my riol loif car
>>28776484sheeeeeit, I'll check it out.>neighbors about to hear the bass shakers bRRRRtTT BRRrT Brrrt
big nope on that beam tire physics mod. the car just slides more and feels over all more loose but in an arcade kind of way.
>>28776659you may just be used to unrealistic grip levels desu
>>28775859Time for tougehttps://techeyy.gumroad.com/l/touge
>>28776233maybe :)
>struggle to set a 2:08 with the beemer>switch to the lolvo>miss every apex>2:06das jus bullshit
>>28776922Bro you need to git gud my time was a 2:02
>>28776922And the undermensch douche machine loses again
>>28776929Just you wait until I find those apexesI can't recall where I left them
alright bros, im willing to make myself comfortable in beam.any 200IQ settings and mods that i should definetely know about for max realism and QOL?
>>28776818Sick, ill have to check this out
>>28776922performance: balanced
>>28776801na. i drive a real car and ive sent my gc8 subie sideways in ways that would make colin mcrae blush. that mod feels almost like driving on wet roads
>>28776818yes. redownload all maps if you havent since the new beam update. the old versions will freeze your game
incandescent vs led lightsanyway, happy christmas lads
>>28776973>UPDATEholy shit how can anyone stomach that piece of roblox shit. instant uninstall
>>28777039>awd
>>28777119A110 spottedbased i20N based too
>M4 GT3 beautifully agile and kino>Mustang GT3literally can’t turnyou can’t make that shit up
>>28777119Thats pretty. Modded AC?
If Zampella had a rig he'd be alive
>>28777206funny that the mustang is a piece of shit in LMU but an overpowered meta car in irenting. its not that good irl either. mustangs shouldn't be GT3 cars, ford should bring back the ford GT.
When is the FoST GT3 being added?
>>28777229AC but in UE5
>>28777252Wild. Every first party UE5 game ive tried to play looks like plastic garbage, specifically mw5 clans. It can look good when someone cares
>>28777238he tracked his cars though
>>28777229It’s AssRally>>28777249the GT3 Stang is doing fairly well on the burgerking. If it wasn’t for max Verstappen Frank Stippler would have won the NLS back 2 back in it. He said the car is nice but they are still tinkering with it and dialing it in as perfectly as they can (HRT)
>>28777263Not enough apparently
>>28777198>its what makes a subaru a subaruI tested a rwd pessima and the sunburst
>>28777197is that supposed to be bait? you just sound extremely jewish if anything
>>28777197Ah, you must be one of those MUH FIDELITY zoomers
>>28777255yeah games look good when someone cares
>>28777296no bait. everything about that game feels like roblox. I understand why most people play it using controllers though>>28777329I’m still playing rfactor 1 and I’m not talking about visuals. Nice try though
>>28777351>feels like roblox. Explain, I've never played roblox because im not underage
>>28777357Me neither but I know it’s a barebones DIY sandbox
>>28777364And?
>>28777351I didnt know roblox had a top of the line physics engine, I'll have to check it out.
>>28777364I think he just means he has to be spoon fed his gayming. He probably wants to be told how to drive ,where , when and what.
>>28777431Yeah, I guess if you have no creativity a sandbox would be pretty boring.
sandbox slop is boringif its not gt3s at spa or the daytona 24 in iKino then i sleep
>>28777483>sandbox slop is boring I think thats just an indictment of you being a boring person.We did hillclimb, a police chase, loaded semi hauling and quarry operator working and then going rogue in the same session.
>>28777503>We did hillclimb, a police chase, loaded semi hauling and quarry operator working and then going rogue in the same session.you sound like you're 5 years old
>>28777505Ive done half the things on that list for a living
>>28777520You've been a 5 year old for a living???
>>28777534>>28777505>>28777483Stop having FUN, fun Is GAY Be a patrician like me and race the same two tracks only or you're GAY
I will spend my evening racing nascar cars on old hockenheimring in ams2
>>28777505Sounds like fun tbqh
>>28777545B-but I need more realism even though I cant feel any of the g-forces that actually make driving/racing what it is
>AMS2 has the new A110 GT4 EVOWTF installing AMS2 right fucking now
Made a few extra webms.
>>28777732Just noticed that there's no codriver in the car on that track.I'm not sure about Alpine. I really don't like that its setup is so limited, but it drives well when you get used to it. It's extremely rear heavy. I'm running extra lights all the time because of it. Placebo, probably. I can't figure tire pressures as well. Rears heat up quickly. I've experimented with M at back, and with high and low pressures, but I just can't figure what is faster.
max ride height front — 0.125m backlowest possible spring stiffness all aroundfront arb 9500 — back arb 13000center diff = 35/50 — preload 0.0 — plates 632 psi all tires (because of softer springs)the rest defaultI'm not sure if it's faster, but it's much more forgiving on mistakes, and easier to cut corners with.
>>28777965Awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOEshv_zK9U >using that tire mod
>>28777483based shleeper
>>28778248just call it arcade mod
>>28778355I can do that same run, move for move in ac with slicks. Also in beam with beam's tire model,fillman's and the tire physics mod im using in that clip. I dont think it really matters. You cant simulate driving accurately without real g forces. Either way its fun to slide cars around in real life and in the sims.
>>28778385you are dumbthe real g-forces are interacting with the vehicle body in a fully realistic manner. Just because you can't feel them doesn't mean its not there. It's not a necessity either. It is more important that your inputs are precise. Now I get it's a lot easier to feel out that precision I'm a real car but you do it the same way in a sim by observing the inertia reaction of the driver camera. The only game, imo, that successfully conveys g-forces through cam movement alone is rfactor. Iracimg does an okay job too but rf2s driver head cam is god tier. Everything else is either kind of uncanny like beam or nonexistent without mods like ac.Flying around Bryce Canyon in RF1 or 2 in an F1 car actually feels like you're being forced into the seat on the descent, especially if you use vr.the trick is you need to kind of already drive hard irl so your brain has a point of reference. I don't think it's a good idea to add fake gees like motion rigs do because being tilted and having centripetal force of a car turning acting on your entire body are two entirely separate sensations.
The difference between ac and beam is that ac cars are more like skateboards than cars and are less difficult to get over the gutter. Beam has actual suspension and has better weight shift feel so it takes more driving technique to actually keep the weight off of the front inner wheel.
>>28778397>113 mph in a sim turn>cant feel the tires talking>not being pushed to one side of my seat>cant feel fast elevation changes There is alot of cope in the sim racing world for whatever reason about how realistic it is. Its more like driving rc cars than actual cars.
The biggest difference is in sims you have to react once the tires already lost grip. In real life you feel it in your butt way earlier making drifting so much easier
>>28778418and these motion sims are a meme. they can’t reproduce accurate G forces. They just add a bit of sensation. t. tried them at sim racing expo Dortmund
>>28778429Yeah, I almost fell for the meme and was going to do one of the diy kits. Are they a meme for flight sims or say some sort of mech fighting game?
>>28778423if you are reacting after the fact you have already losta good driver knows what the car will do before it does it, before even a butt feel enjoyer can even react. a proactive driver will always beat a reactive driver.
>>28778418>cant feel the tires talkingfix your ffb settings and sound volume levels. you can always hear it before you feel it. >not being pushed to one side of my seatirrelevant distraction, useless information. You already know you are turning, you are turning the wheel. >cant feel fast elevation changeswrong, you can feel them thru the camera motion, this is part of what makes rfactor games feel so good to drive. You can literally feel the car moving under you psychosomatically.
>>28778418>t. has only played vanilla AC and Mario lart
>>28778443for dedicated drifting this true. you basically use your muscle memory. it’s also true for circuit racing, unless you’re trying new tracks
>>28778449>>28778451cope! that ac clip was done with a xbox controller just to prove ffb is bullshit and sim racing is a cope fest of bad spending on toys
>>28778465>xbox controller with control script that modifies your input based on...FFB dataok
>>28778465>I twiddled my little stick 1/4th of the way down an initial d arcade stage track port without hitting anything that means steering wheels are bullshitok retard
>>28778443Sorry not everyone is born fucking Finnish.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wBbqChvRg4s
>>28778475not my problem
>>28776342he sooooo READY TO GOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
>>28777119you can tell it's EU5 by the fact you can see light travel in real time.
I want to try this VR think but every video I see is crazy unstable. Even when standing still it looks like they’re going 100mph on a gravel road
AC with badly configured ffb does feel like shit and I've never been able to get it to feel right with a DD wheel. It felt great on my old belt and gear driven wheels though. That's why I moved onto rF2/LMU and iRacing since they just work and dont need hours of tinkering. They feel nothing like RC cars. I had a zoomer on my race team once who didn't have a ffb wheel (vibration motors only), and he couldn't keep it on track because he had no idea what the car was doing thanks to the lack of ffb.
>>28778549shoulda play AMS2
>>28778475>that videoReminds me how I've noticed that I can skim times on launches by having my eyes closed and just hear out the countdown.
>>28778501your brain filters those tiny movements out when you're using the headset it isnt noticeable
Are you a gigachad spending his christmas holiday on the computer unlike those other sheep? Do you enjoy beer and racing video games and hanging with ovg?Good news! The ovg xmas fun time is this weekend, 27th evening GMT with maybe expansion on the 28th same timeslot with a variety of little games to play some free some not some you probably could find for free all cheap on sale on steam right now. Everyone is welcome, no pressure, game and mod download links will be up soon as I mirror stuff around. Might switch to a cracked rf2 install too.Feel free to suggest more things to do that I may add to the list if I feel like it and it's funny.Doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vlVjNh8r6o_KYUFHf7Hcp8ZaYS5lsEZwFvTeu_K_c1Q/edit?gid=1286682696#gid=1286682696
I don't like how racing game modding is all paywalled behind patreon garbage. Only other game genres that do this are chinkoids selling gooner outfits for gacha games.
>>28778619Fuck you, pay me.
>>28778619its because racing game modding doesnt have a tight knit community since its mostly just "add this car i want", anybody can download a model off the internet and haphazardly slap it onto the games chassis system and charge 30 bucks and see minimal complaints
>>28778619Modding for simulators is different than reskins and custom scripts. You have to put real development time, research and testing into delivering a good sim because any individual piece of content depends on numerous independent systems working cohesively together. Microsoft flight Sim is a decent example of this; they sell modules (planes) on their store front, most of which are developed by third party companies and with various levels of fidelity. In some cases, you actually need to read the manual to understand how to fly the plane. Developing that takes real time and expertise and thus money. No surprise, the best sellers tend to be the most fleshed out and polished builds.
>>28778629I'm a casual msfs player and I found more than enough free mods to have my fun. Neofly is a career add-on that actually adds an actual game to the sim for example and while they do have a paid version it's mostly to add fluff like employees to your company and other stuff. I still paid for it because I liked it so much but I just hate it when it's actually gatekept.I understand a dude spending months to model his local airport and wanting 10 bucks for it since it's very niche.I don't know it rubs me the wrong way. Back then all the gameplay mods were made for the love of the games and while patreon wasn't a thing it was always expected for them to be free. The career mod for AC is paid, the blender plugin that just came out to make it easier to create maps is paid, CM is paid if you don't want to pull your hair out to host a server. It's not even the amount (I mean the amount of cash we spend on rigs and cars is ridiculous as it is) but the mindset is rotten. Feel taken advantage off you know and more importantly to me it splits communities even more.
>>28778637I dont necessarily disagree with you, I was just explaining the rationale behind it. Empire at war for example has many total conversion projects that have been in development for over a decade at this point, touching or rebuilding every system and asset you can access above source code level. They do it purely for adoration of the IP and the community. In general I dont disagree with the concept of selling your mod work if people want to pay for it, but the idea of selling mods just to make a game feature complete; like a career mode, or in the case of MSFS selling paid mods that fix the heights of trees, water tables or janky map artifacts from photogrammetry is definitely retarded.
>>28778629True, but racing games like AC are barely simulators and most if not all the paid stuff is dogshit stolen from forza and encrypted by some nigger after adding random bullshit so the pictures look good.
>>28778619you can get those mods from free from russian forums
Why aren't these roads in every videogame?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b01T1sj50Gk
goddamn AMS2 is fun as fuck
>>28778720What do you run in it? Boughted the game for the christmas sale but didn't even download it yet (it's fucking 110GB...)
>>28778728i have the game on steam too but i downloaded the cracked version because its just 25gb incl. all dlc kek.I wanted to try the A110 GT4 Evo but ended up driving GT3s on the burgerking all day.However, there's a SHITload of cars and tracks and I'll try all kinds of stuff later
>>28778718no i will not go to france
>>28778473>>28778474the point is i can do the same exact thing on my wheel and pedals like I did in the first beam clip or controller dumb dumb. ffb does nothing for you but give immersion even though you all have your wheels turned up way higher than any car would output in real life. sim racing is a loop of retardation. retards.
>>28778619The real bros are the ones that set it so you can pay nothing or as much as you want. Even the ones that have $1 minimum are cool in my book too.
>>28775859I make cars I automation then spend hours driving them all over the map in beam. Extremely satisfying and highly recommend.
>>28778760Ive seen sim racer kids get absolutely mercilessly shit on by dudes racing on mouse and keyboard. The elitism around sim equipment is fucking retarded. Were it not for getting a rig in a trade id have never justified the purchase because its ultimately just a fun toy. The entire idea is built around an experience that even a money-no-object sim rig cannot replicate.
>>28778562AMS2 has good ffb sure, but the physics are dreadful. It's the opposite problem that AC has.
>>28778795>Ive seen sim racer kids get absolutely mercilessly shit on by dudes racing on mouse and keyboard.Stop playing simcades. This will not happen in a proper sim.
>>28778809Ill play whatever I think is fun
