>plastic control arms2026 everyone
that type of plastic is really strong and light and doesn't corrode THOUGHperfect for an econobox
>>28776672Yeah we'll see about that lmao
>>28776669Fucking kill me. Which manufacturers do this?
>>28776672You know what else is strong and doesn't corrode? Metal.
>>28776677Looks like Ram are the only ones doing it so far. A lot of manufacturers use plastic sway bar links.
good enough for the fucking goyim
>>28776685Lol no fucking way. Like this is what you get when you buy a Ram 1500?
>Americans
>>28776672You know what kills plastic? Heat. Those bushing create heat the brakes create heat, the tires themselves heat up.
>>28776685And they cost like 100k,clearest example of how BS "market competition" is
>>28776691As the upper control arms, yes
>>28776669why don't they just make control arms out of diamond? it is the strongest metal
>>28776705Jesus christ. Reason #164,781 I'll never own a nu-car or nu-truck.
>>28776701econobox control arms are not getting put through hard enough driving to heat up muchthey might get exposed to salt thoughbut if these are for a ram truck that's really stupid
>>28776725People that buy economy shitboxes rag on them harder than 99% of people that own performance cars. It's what they're for.
>>28776669Umm sweaty... fiber-reinforced plastics are le not environmentally friendly because they can't be recycled.
>>28776745That's why they just call it composite instead.
>>28776681>Does not corrode anon...
>>28776745why does everyone say sweaty when the term is sweety
>>28776760Gold.
>>28776774I always wondered this too
>>28776796If I remember right, some boomer woman on Facebook typoed sweaty in place of sweetie and we've all been making fun of her ever since
>>28776799The more you know. Thanks, now I dont got to get on people's ass as a Grammer nut job
cheaper, lighter, stronger, will never corrode.>but reinforced polymers are.. le bad!!boomers and their bumpkin spawn are a plague.
>>28776701It's not a pvc pipe you fuckin retard. reinforced composites have very high heat resistance.
>>28776669Don't worry metal parts are chinesium too in 2025
>>28776808>cheaper, lighter, strongerI dunno anon, my lower control arms are made of pressed steel welded together and have taken numerous beatings on the tracks, they still do their job even full of dents and scrapes from big rocks. I don't know that polymer arms would handle repeated knocks and keep going.
>>28776669glass reinforced nylon ?
>old boomer tales
>>28776790>a metal so soft it can be deformed by biting
>>28776808This.They've been doing composite honeycomb monocoque racing chassis' for decades.I did paint protection on exotics and we had a set of low profile plastic ramps to get the lower valance/splitter off the ground for working room. Used those ramps every day for years, never saw any degradation.
I'll take it but I prefer aluminum
>>28776986Fun fact:Olympic medals are only plated.And their design and manufacturing (along with the cost) is the responsibility of that specific Olympic games host country.
>>28776706Because it would rust.
>>28776986Aluminium, magnesium, titanium.
>>28776672>doesn't corrodeWhy do people think that plastic doesn't degrade with heat, moisture, oxygen, and load? Where did this myth originate from? Have they never interacted with a ~5 year old piece of plastic in an engine bay that just crumbles away into a million pieces?
>>28777077>Have they never interacted with a ~5 year old piece of plastic in an engine bay that just crumbles away into a million pieces?This is exactly by design. Don't worry though; with attractive financing and leasing options, there's nothing stopping (you) from getting a new car every 5 years :)
>>28776691my 89 toyota cressida had plastic sway bar links, was mildly surprised to see it
>>28776685Dot those have metal internals and just have plastic coating to help with corrosion
>>28777083Look at the ribbing and thickness of the molding.That's fully plastic.
>>28776669>>28776672Canadian here, Plastic gets brittle in the fucking wintergo get something plastic, sit it outside, and just drop it from table hieght and see what happens.I would rather have metal that i would undercoat to prevent rust from salt, than fucking plastic.
>>28777088Idk OP looks different and searching for cross sections of them shows one that is still a lot of metal. I’m not that invested in this bait though
>>28776669This is when you need to start lining people up against the wall
>>28777094>all plastics are the samenot defending the control arms, because I'm sure they're still cheap shit, but there are multiple polymers that work extremely well in the cold
>>28777077the plastic in those control arms is the same type they use for oil pans, valve covers and other stuff nowit's not the cheap plastic on wiring harness clips and other non-structural components
>>28777556Does it burn well?Does it not degrade with UV?
>>28776999>I do paint protection on exotic cars>all I can afford are $60 poorfag rams which will kill methey easy way to prove you're a lying jeet is that those ramps are far too steep for a corvette let alone an exotic car and if you actually were going to use ramps on an exotic you can easily afford race ramps. those poorfag ramps are known as widow makers for a reason.
>>28777556So it's what, PA6-GF20?
>>28777642Solid wooden ramps or go home.
>>28777724(supposedly) its Nylon 6 base + 50% glass fibreso they put a bit more glass fibre into the polyamide than is on plastic oil pans and valve covers>pic unrelated
>>28776774>>28776796Because you need to be 18 to post here
>>28777740So it's stiffer, which makes sense for upper control arms, but it's gonna be less impact-resistant. Let's give them the benefit of the doubt and say they're using a UV-resistant blend of PA6 too, since those do seem to exist.It makes some sense, upper control arms don't usually see massive loads and are mostly there to just keep the wheel in position, but it still doesn't really sit right with me.I personally don't really mind it on intakes or even valve covers, but anything that gets exposed to the elements and rocks or potholes I'd want to have a failure mode of denting rather than cracking.
>>28777642Bruh-tard... u put the wheel choXxX in the wrong place. They go behind the wheel to prevent rolling, the car is not gonna roll UPwards up the ramps
>>28777106For real, if yall aren't out there mass Minecrafting you aren't a Real Man™.How can you just sit there and take it? Show the world what you're made of.
>>28777094it gets colder here than in canada and plastic works perfectly fine. maybe try not being an inbred and abuse the things you own.
>>28777764mostly guessing from BSAF Ultramid product catalogues>valve coverA3W G7 PA66-GF35 FR>oil panB3Z G7 PA66-GF35 FR>control armsB3W G10 PA6-GF50 FRyea this plastic stuff is a bit sus, I mostly know it from dealing with cheap bicycles from the 1970s till 1990s.simplex and shimano got onto the whole plastic reinforced metal thing in a big way, brake levers and callipers, derailleur parallelogram plates, shift levers.all wrecked by being left outside in sunlight and rain (+ some oil exposure). admittedly glass fibre reinforced pedals hold up farely well, but still they suffer.
Has any car maker been cheap enough to make their throttle bodies/plates out of plastic yet?
>>28777799what events lead a man to WANT to be cucked?
>>28777846>I mostly know it from dealing with cheap bicycles from the 1970s till 1990sThe 90s were 30 years ago, technology advances.
>>28776986You're not supposed to eat it, retard.
>>28777917>sees plastic>is reminded of one's own impotence i'll never understand you people
>>28777921I'll eat whatever the fuck I want.
>>28777919ye, they have all sorts of herbs and spices now. and some plastics are essentially indestructible.I still do not trust them tho.
The lack of awareness that stainless steels and aluminum being rust proof goes to show how much of a sucker you all are and will continue to buy bullshit with a false sense of superiority. Plastic isn't something you want for suspension components.
>>28777966>PEEK-CF intake runnersWew lad, those gotta be pricey.
>>28777775you see the ropes extending out the ends of them? they're on both sides you retard. pic related
>>28777980Both aluminum and stainless steel can corrode, double retard. Back to school.
>>28776774newfag
>>28778012>Corrosion mentioned>RustAh, playing fast and loose today are we you little rat. Whatever search engine you use copy and paste: "Rust proof metals" and lemme know what you find champ
>>28777988>86 $ per kilogrammedium ooof, A356-T6 is nearer to 4 $ per kg>>28778023tfw Corrosion
>>28776999>But the race cars specifically designed to drive on an entirely flat racetrack and ONLY on those racetracks have it and it works just fine!!!Got any more brain blasts for us, Jimmy Neutron?
>>28776854Oil starvation doesn't help any valve train much.
>>28778023>moves goal postsit's the same fucking thing in every way that matters
>>28777980obviously aluminum is better but you don't find alum suspension bits on cheap cars
>>28777617if the sun shines into your wheel wells and your car iisn't a caterham, you have bigger problems than plastic control arms
>>28776677>Chrysler/Jeep/Dodge/Ram>Ford/Lincoln>Chevrolet/Buick/GMC/Cadillac>Mazda>Nissan>Toyota>Honda>Hyundai/Kia>BMW>Mercedes>Tesla>Renault>Peugeot>Volkswagen>Audi>Jaguar/Land Rover
>>28777642That was a random google image as an example you knuckle dragging retard.Our ramps had 2 foot long extensions i had to use on Lamborghinis and Ferraris.Sucks that you live in some poor shithole that never sees exotics. I dealt with them daily.Eat a dick, faggot.
>>28776669It’s light weight and you guys are always complaining about ‘pig fat’.
>>28779131not having six gorillion airbags has a much bigger effect
>>28776854>Flat tappet>Wiped lobeWho could possibly have anticipated such a thing?
>>28778029Monocoque chassis' were developed for safety because theyre stronger you fucking braindead retard.
>>28776669>only way to get bones in 2026 is if they're plasticGrim
>>28778953>seriously guise im not poor>my $60 poorfag ramps had 2 foot extensions>i dont even know who makes my jobs supposedly fancy ramps and had to use a picture of the poorest of ramps ever madesure thing jeet. it doesn't help that the only brands you can think of when it comes to exotics are ferraris and lambos. have fun riding your trains
>>28779160What if he is trains man that does hard trains man work?
>>28779148>Sorry Wolverine, no adamantium for you. We had to cut costs, so we reinforced your bones with Chinese plastic.
