>Snitches on you to the authorities>"Sir, you exhaust is unclean, please get out of the vehicle"
Xir, this car is pre 1978 and is thus exempt from emissions testing.If you continue to harass me, I will file a complaint about you to your HR department under "sexual misconduct".
>>28782368It's not that yet, but it's close. Euro 8 will report you to the police for them to defect your car. Euro 9 will instead lock you inside and gas you to completely eliminate your carbon footprint.
>clean air is.. le badwhy are chuds like this?
>>28782382kek Deepseek lied to me .. I guess I mightl be buying Euro7 after allAfter proper, non ai, research/Those gasoline particulate filters seem like a nightmare.By the way, since you are a connaisseur, tell me. In 2 years, Euro6b wont be allowed inside my local LEZ anymore. Does this mean they will no longer test for particulate matter emissions during annual car inspections?
>>28782370basedBut maintenance cost must be insane, if you cant even find the parts, am i right?
>>28782388I don't know, check your local laws, I don't even know where you live. I just read the PDF that came up first when I searched for Euro 7https://theicct.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/ID-116-%E2%80%93-Euro-7-standard_final_v2.pdf
>>28782386Because catalyzed exhaust that's "over the legal limit" isn't as polluting as burning coal with "carbon capture" to make electricity to power an EV.
>>28782388>Does this mean they will no longer test for particulate matter emissions during annual car inspections?It will be the opposite. Testing during car inspections will become more accurate and difficult to pass. There's also a proposal to require member states to do mass screening of cars on the road using remote sensing technology. If I recall correctly, the proposal is to set a quota of minimum 20% of cars on the road screened each year. If the sensors say your car is too loud or too polluting, you'll get a note inviting you to visit an inspection station. Other shit stuffed in there is a "digital passport" for your car, which will contain complete registration, inspection, and service history (mechanic shops will be required to record details of any work they do). It won't be stored in a "central database", because krauts fucking autistic, but rather per country databases that transfer data between them, which is basically the same as a central database, but somehow doesn't bother the krauts, probably because it means SAP gets more work. They will use the databases to detect "illegal repairs" that keep an old cars on the road.They've got a whole bunch of other ideas to force us to eat the bugs and ride the bus. Those are just the ones I remember off the top of my head. Follow the "proposal" links at the bottom of this if you want to read about it in mindnumbingly boring Eurocratese: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_25_1083
>>28782390It's not insanely expensive or even expensive to maintain, but it's a labour of love and needs patience. Parts are available all over Europe and a lot of it can be jurry rigged with western parts from different brands.It's not a daily driver and right now the interior is stripped for welding and for upgrading, going to install some electric seats off a W124 Mercedes, a modern sound system and so on. Also thinking about a V8 swap if I can get a hold of this one dude with a ZMZ-53 V8 engine off a GAZ-53 truck.
>>28782395only third world countries burn coal for electricity
>>28782370hello police, yes there dangerous scrap metal on road
>>28782432>Registered>Inspected for 2 years>Insured>You get jailed and fined for disturbing the police's dilation break
>>28782443>soviet scrap ''registered'' in civilized countryno wonder people say finland is turning into third world
>>28782446In no part due to the bright somali or turk scientists or the ukrainians sitting on welfare.
Why can't we invest in research and development of clean-burning and 100% renewable biofuel like in my heckin' epic Cyberpunk? Then we could get rid of all emission shit in cars AND have clean air AND stop slurping arab semen.
>>28782368 >Snitches on you to the authoritiesDon't care, don't have an exhaust.
>>28782386Because I can drive a V8 with no catalytic converter 30,000kms/yr for the rest of my life and it won't put out as much pollution as a single container ship burning bunker crude traveling from China to the UK.The vast majority of pollution is done by businesses, but the businesses lobby the politicians to say that the consumers are the pollution problem.
>>28782461Because cyberpunk is a work of fiction
>>28782386They have the retarded ideas: "you should follow the rules but not me" or "why should i do it if someone else doesnt". Basically they are brown.
I am Americans, explain to me what's happening in this thread
Decatted and with a maxxed out crackle tune pumping through straight pipes. I would drive through a zero-emissions zone just for fun but I live in the United States of Freedom so I don’t even know where the closest one one is.‘Merica. Fuck yeah!
>>28782500Browns and ex-yugoslavians buttmad that their 2003 BMW "clean" diesels will be banned from public roads.
>>28782461The only thing that can burn clean enough for "absolutely zero carbon dioxide emissions by 2050" is hydrogen.
>>28782500Every new car must constantly report its own emissions, refuse to drive in geofenced areas, carry a bunch of registration information electronically as if the cross referencing the fucking VIN and license plate with your ID, or using a sticker, wasn't enough. The requirement to transmit that "over the air" means a requirement to have a cellular modem so the location of any car is known at all times. Probably a kill switch too. Americans just have the cellular modem and a kill switch that police can use. That's really all that's needed to have absolute power over mobility.
>>28782516CO2 emissions =/= % of NOx, CO, particulate matter and other toxic stuff in the exhaust gas
>>28782524Okay, so? You might be able to reduce all that other stuff but if the fuel had any carbon in it it's still producing carbon dioxide and there's still a stated goal of among people who politicians actually listen to for absolutely zero carbon dioxide emissions by 2050.
>>28782526Then just make fuel which production is carbon neutral or whatever it's called
>>28782535Well, that's basically hydrogen and nothing else. Which is why the plan is just to force everyone to use electric cuckboxes and then hault production of everything and watch what happens. That'll probably be when the browns finally start exterminating white people out of sheer fucking boredom. They'll have the numbers they need by then.
>>28782490China and India dump vast amounts of pollution into the air and the ocean completely unchecked, but you disingenuous fucks claim that those of us in the first world are the problem and need to be ever-more tightly regulated. You're calling in a noise complaint for me playing a harmonica when we're next door to a 500,000 watt rock concert. Where's your outrage for the worst offenders? Where's your using political, diplomatic, and social pressures to force them to improve? If the chinks and jeets adopted even just euro1 or euro2 emissions it would make a world-affecting difference.
>>28782538>That'll probably be when the browns finally start exterminating white people out of sheer fucking boredom. They'll have the numbers they need by then.Implying that isn't part of (((((their))))) plan
>>28782548>If the chinks and jeets adopted even just euro1 or euro2 emissions it would make a world-affecting difference. Need I remind you that the chinkanese are spearheading electric car adoption. CDM electric car sales figures are roughly the same as the rest of the world combined. However I'll admit that the jeets are a lost cause. Hindoo nationalism has rotted their brains.
>>28782520InSane
>>28782405>They will use the databases to detect "illegal repairs" that keep an old cars on the road.>soon you will need a loicense to wrench on your own carGrim.
Balkans will probably ignore most of this because if they ban unofficially repaired Euro III and IV cars from roads or even just cities, tons of people will literally be unable to get to work almost overnight.
Frankly I like fresh clean air. Go back to India if you like toxic fumes more.
>>28782689But don't the balkans also have some of the cleanest air possible, especially in their mountain ranges?
>>28782701They just make up some values because their politicians steal the money for the air quality sensors.
>>28782701Yes because those regions are very sparsely populated. If the weather is windy, that also helps. But cities that have foggy and damp weather usually also accumulate a lot of atmospheric crap. Dunno if it is from a lot of wood burning heating or abnormal amount of diesel cars, but I get soot accumulation on my balcony that becomes noticable after ~a couple of months
>>28782701Sarajevo has recently been named as the most polluted city on the face of the Earth, surpassing some pajeet cities
>>28782689>Balkans will probably ignore most of thisThis. I drive a 2006 Euro 4 diesel shitbox with removed DPF and disabled EGR. I pass yearly emissions test just fine, even though inspector sees the exhaust pipe has been welded at several places.
>>28782777It's understandable that people living in the Balkans charitably try to shorten each other sufferings on this evil planet
>>28782813statistically speaking making people commute by bicycle will shorten their lifespan much more than fumes
>>28782828You're wrong. Cyclists live 17% longer than the average person
>>28782386The people who police it are are hypocrites.As always, the concept is fine, it’s the people who are bad.In your mind, you are probably some hero. I see you as a cunt defending tyranny.
>>28782813I never said I live in a densely populated area. Fumes are not that much of a concern
>>28782382Just put a catted spacer between the sensor, ez
