*sticks shut*heh nothing personal
>>28792486?
>>28792486I've never had a thermostat go out
*sticks open saving your engine*keep the change you filthy animal
I always find them stuck open on cars I buy.
i was suprised how consistant my car was without one, the po had one fail and he stabbed a punch through it to limp home and instead of waiting a week for a new one after finding it i just removed it, it ran around 190-200 without a fan shroud and blade.
>>28792486Whats that?
>>28792486>stops workingnothing personnel kid
>>28792486 >>28792511How can you even definitively tell if one's stuck open>>28792571 #I managed with one stuck closed for like 2 weeks just by always driving fast enough to keep the engine cool from air blowing over it. Of course that engine started knocking and blew up 10000 miles later which being unnecessarily exposed to high temperature might have contributed to.
>>28792657>How can you even definitively tell if one's stuck openEngine never gets to mean operational temps, heater is "warm" but not "hot" , especially noticeable in cold weather.Plugs show rich . Exhaust smells rich.
I don't mind replacing these as long as the housing components use an o-ring.Fuck paper gaskets. Fuck RTV. Fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you. Even metal gaskets make me angry sometimes.
>>28792511>saving your engineWhy do engines need to run at such a specific temperature anyways? Logically, colder is better, right?
>>28793065>Why do engines need to run at such a specific temperatureto optimize lubrication and combustion
>>28793087This, cars suck ass at combusting fuel when you cold start at, that's why your has to dmup shit tons of fuel to run smoothly and heat up itself and gets for better emissions asap
>>28793065>colder is betterNo, hotter is better. An ideal theoretical engine is infinitely hot when it combusts and loses none of that heat out of the chambers. But in the real world we have thermal transfer and such.As hot as it can get with respect to the fluid limits is good for combustion (and oil film friction) i.e. not only better torque also better economy. But again, within limits.
>>28793065Higher temperatures mean fluids flow better. People wrap turbos and exhaust headers/pipes with insulation to improve system efficiency. The maximum temp limit is when system component reliability starts going down. You yourself can probably get 0.5% better MPG if you wrap your entire exhaust in insulation.
>>28792657>How can you even definitively tell if one's stuck openCold start the car and keep your hand on the upper rad hose. It should stay cold until the t-stat opens up. If it gets warm right away it's stuck open.
>>28792565>I always find them stuck open on cars I buy.Sticking closed used to be the main failure they had but in the last 15 years or so they've been sticking open most often which says something changed but I don't know what.
>>28793087>>28793144>>28793156
Ah yes the 15 dollar, easy to service component. Let us buy an Audi and lesrn where they put this simple part.>>28792657Your engine will be HOT, your tempature gauge will read HOT. If you aren't leaking coolant, then your shit is probably stuck
>>28793219Stuck closed*
LOL!
>>28793158Kind of. With modern cooling systems, even with an open/missing thermostat, it will take a while to get any sense of split, as a lot of cooling systems are set up to prioritize self heating, then heater core, then radiator. I'd say "within ten to fifteen minutes".Otherwise, your suggestion works fine on older/simpler vehicles. Just don't expect immediate results. Give the mill a few minutes.
>>28793305Any cooling system made in the past 40 years is going to operate the same. Obviously this isn't going to be an instant event as it takes a lot of heat to heat soak the engine enough to pop the t-stat open.
>>28793156>People wrap turbos and exhaust headers/pipes with insulation to improve system efficiencyI thought this was more to protect stuff in the engine bay from the heat they put off.
>>28792883o-rings are great but if you ever have to deal with a gasket, smear it with a very light coat of grease. will make it much less of a headache to remove afterwards
*block explodes*
>>28793297Ha ha, imagine if they used the intake manifold to mount the thermostat. Ha ha! Imagine!Imagine if they released a revision with an aluminium portion that still leaked out onto the alternator, with no recalls! HA HA HA!Imagine if you couldn't buy a new gasket without the manifold LMFAO AMAZING
>>28793526Mfw Ford came out and called that manifold a wear item and still doubled down after the class action.
>>28793177Many of the newer ones are the fail-open kind. That design is also less reliable.I just buy new old stock because all the new thermostats are made by one shitty company (motorad) now
>>28793297The first group of people we hang will be the entirety of the automotive industry
>>28792486>What is a bypass valve
>>28793526This is why Chevy is probably better. They don't do as much dumb shit as Ford.
