A place to discuss what dream has died for you and why.For me, it's the air-cooled Porsche 911. I give up. These have achieved permanent meme status and will forever be priced higher than the ownership experience warrants. Yeah, I get that it's desirable, but it's not *that* desirable. So I gave up. I no longer browse listing for them and just care less and less over time. Good for you if you have one, I guess.
just stop being poor
>>28793245Post your 911, bet you can't
for me it was my 2009 VW GLI>RIPthe engine light just kept coming on and I needed better mileage. I had to get a new car. I could have kept you, old fren. I let you down. I'll never forget your plaid pattern on the seats for some reason. those were panty droppers fr
>>28793248why would I opt for a poverty car lol
Always loved the styling of the second gen CRX. Even totaled ones on copart go for thousands. Just not worth it at this point.
A 1994 mighty max 4wd with the 3.0L V6.I was totally on board, but decided that it wasn't worthy of a full restoration due to 320k miles on the chassis that totally didn't hit a deer in its life. Ran drove stopped, but the amount of money to full restore it just wasn't worth it. If it had half the milage or at least minimal rust then I would've diamonds hands that bitch as a cheap utility vehicle. Great truck, bulletproof. It refused to die.
>>28793251Cool story bro
>>28793244>904 GTS >930 Turbo…or any variant >E30 M3 >Sport Quattro >C2 >250 GT Berlinetta >Wanderer W25k>928 GTS >Z8 Possible realities >E24 M6 >E46 Alpina B3 >928 >944 Turbo >C7 Z51 >California or a meme Ferrari >R8 4.2 >976 Panamera Turbo S ehybrid >997 Cup >904 GTS replica >>28793250:( I’ll keep my current one going for 200k. It’s worth it and nu cars are shit and old cars are more expensive and harder to get. Life isn’t fair. What did you replace the GLI with?
>>28793244FD RX-7
>>28793255Man, they styled that car right.
>>28793269I never quite understood the hype on those.
>>28793269They’re expensive?
>>28793274They look nice, handle good and the wankel just has a unique character>>28793287Yeah, for a few years, if you lived outside of the US, you could still get a late model from Japan for fairly cheap, but now that ship has sailed
>>28793270Looks even better from behind
>>28793244A lot of "JDM legends" but specifically the Skyline R34 GTRIt's still my dream car but I don't know if it would be a good buy even for what it is. I don't think any JDM legend cars are worth over $100kIdk what exact model would be a good sports car for the money but some kind of mid 2000s Porsche looks cool.
>>28793244Close, I gave up on trying to find a rust-free Porsche 912 or 356 that was not owned by an utter fop who thought it was Hitler's personal chariot. Next up would be MB/GPW's not owned by potbellied Boomer-fobbits who thought they had to have "a jeep" but had no qualms about slathering it in gallons of kitty-hair, bondo and cheap OD rattlecan, so they could drive it to the local IHOP on Veterans day for a free breakfast.Then we have M37's. which suffer from the same malady as the MB/GPW. in that boomers buy them and somehow think they are WW2 relics, and then get all kinds of pissy when you point out that "no, that's a postwar truck, pops.". but they still tink that their rustbucket is worth $15K because of "RAER HAERDTOPP", that looks like it was made out of old coffee cans and pop rivets.Don't get me going on the fucking tractor fags. I've been a J-D certed tech for 20+ years. Fuck those guys.
>>28793315Yeah who the fuck pays $50k-90k for the original NARP the 912. I can’t wrap my mind around it. People don’t like them when they were new and now they do?
>>28793318And the cope is even sillier. "It's a more pure experience." "You can feel how light it is." "The true driver's choice."Like, just admit you couldn't afford the extra 2 cylinders or shut the fuck up, you're not fooling anyone. The only people who agree with shit like that are just being nice out of pity.
>>28793325Your and idiot
>>28793244i used to want a slantback humvee with an overdrive box to drive like i stole it, but yeah that would've been highly impractical lol.i've always been interested about getting an a80 supra just to try out as a fun GT, but even for the non turbo autos to manual swap, the prices are insane.
>>28793244Look at Lotus Elises. Same connection to the driving experience at half the price.
>>28794284>slantback humvee Oh, yeah, me too. But I never heard anyone with any experience behind the wheel of one ever say they were anything but trash.
>>28793244The BMW E30, with the E36 rapidly approaching the same status. People want $10k+ for a high mileage automatic convertible that would've been $1500 only a decade ago just because it's an "old school beamer". It's no longer a cheap option for a sporty car since you can get a clean, manual 128i or E90 328i, let alone a 35i for the same price. An E30 used to be compared to something like the NA Miata as a cheap, used manual RWD car, and even those are still relatively cheap despite their even larger meme status.
>>28794303i have to wonder how much of that was because it's a military vehicle and how much of it was because they got absolutely thrashed and abused. i'd imagine in private ownership they'd drive much better now that they have someone that actually follows maintenance procedures. i know acoustic insulation is a must; the engine is more or less right between the driver and shotgun seat with a plastic cover over it, you WILL get permanent hearing damage if you drive it on the highway longer than 10 mins. not to mention that going down the highway in one probably must be what it's like in the space shuttle re-entering the earth's atmosphere.
>>28794320Probably a lot of it is that, but even on the civilian owners forums they're constantly discussing various complaints. Super cool looking car, but completely unsuitable for practical civilian use.
>>28793269This was my dream car back when I was a kid.>>28793274The anon that replied to you first has it right, but he also forgot to add that this was the fanbase that mutated into the Miata lovers we have right now, because that was also kind of their niche an actually powerful Miata.>>28793287>>28793291You can technically still get them, but you're gonna get them to restore them, which means sinking 60K-80K just to get them back to factory specs, and there's no aftermarket for parts, so you really cannot use it to have fun considering how breakable the Wankel platform was.The RX8 remains around with some of the spirit of the RX7, but it's definitely going the way of the dodo as well, and no one is gonna lust after those like they did for FDs and FCs
>>28794411>there is no aftermarker for a 90s jap tuner car
I know this is dumb but the s2k. I just HATE the prices that people are asking these days. I could get a lightly used BRZ or ND miata. The value proposition just isn't there for an s2k and even though it wouldn't hit my finances my inner jew won't allow me to do it. Unless my old coworker sells his at a reasonable price to me if he ever gives it up, it's not happening.
>>28794872I agree with youThere's plenty of ND2/ND3 vs S2K articles that don't make even a used S2K worth it. You're risking buying a 20 year old sports car that's ragged to shit. If its in the rust belt there's a chance it could have rocker/arch rust. Good chance it had a accident too. And even if nothing is wrong it's still a 100,000 mile car most of the time so it'll be due for a clutch, top, or if you're lucky rear end or timing chain tensioner. The Miata is going to be 90% as fast but you won't need to wrench on it, you can finance it, and its more accessible under 5000rpms. Ironically the newer car has better steering feel and won't try to send you sideways into a curb if you panic and chop the throttle on the streetFor me its E36 M3s. I loved mine but like fuck if they're worth $15-23k. That's retarded. They drive great but they're horribly unreliable and the average mileage for one is 160k miles often with a little bit of rust because they were year-round daily drivers. They were $6-12k cars pre-COVID. Skyline GTRs too for obvious reasons but those cars were never cheap, in Japan they were pretty much 911 pricing/marketshare.
won't be able to buy a carrera GTby the time i got to where i could have a fun 2nd car, the AP2 S2000 was already a collectors item. the E60 M5 is already a ticking problem. and the worst part is even an older land rover Disco is looking like it's not worth the effort.
>>28794312I've had this conversation a few times before>someone talks to me about a car that became valuable>"back in the day (15-30 years ago) they were so cheap! I had four of those! But know I can't really afford another one">ask him if any of those cars survived his ownership>answer is always no>mfwcheap and plentiful cars always get destroyed until they're not anymoreIt's baffling how so many people like you pretend not to understand thisApplies to E30, E36, MX5, classic Mini, AE86, Mk2 Escort, C Kadett and on and on
>>28794956mark my words this will happen to the toyobarus
I've owned and sold multiple GF8 wagons
basically just porsche in general. none of their cars are worth the 6 figures people pay. boomers got them for like sub 25k or others get them at msrp after buying several macans then flip them immediately after and they make a lot of sense then but they're not worth 4x the price of their closest competitors if you just want to drive. i can afford a turbo s tomorrow but i know i'd be left with massive buyers remorse after dropping that much on a single vehicle so the brand has basically sailed for me.
>>28793244My Kia Stinger.Nothing's actually wrong with it, it's pretty damn reliable and could make decent enough power if I just put in more effort. I just miss shitbox cars.I miss when I could kick a hole in the bed of my rusty ass truck whenever it pissed me off, when I could jump railroad tracks going 80mph and not give a fuck about damaging my car because I bought it for $500. Whenever I had to get rid of these shitbox cars, I felt a genuine feeling of loss. I've been seeing my car slowly degrade in condition over the past few years. Paint chipping, a crack or two in the windshield, plastic fading. I can't help but realize that eventually this car will just be another cheap, shitty, beat to hell sports car that some kid will buy and absolutely destroy. That's probably the case for most dream cars.
I had aspirations to own an OBS F-150 with the i6 and a manual transmission. 4x4. Nothing special. Something somewhere about the unkillable 300 meme lodged in my brain and I was determined to have the immortal engine in muh trugg.Problem: salt.I went out and bought one that was beat to death, on bubbled tires, with plenty of rust weight reduction. It ran. It drove. It drove so well a leaf spring hanger failed on the drive home. You know the ones.It languished in project car hell until I didn't have a place to keep it anymore. Every time I went to work on it, I found three more things that were broken. Just an ever escalating mass of dread that I eventually lost the will to continue sinking time and money into.They still exist, but everybody that has one in reasonable shape wants way more than it's worth. All of the practical (read: affordable for what they can do) ones have aged out of existence.Maybe it's different in the south. I don't know. I have taken off my fairy crown and the 300 has lost its luster for me. I don't have room for a full sized trugg and don't really need one either at this point. Small trugg is the next fixation, we'll see how that goes. Manual ranger or something.
>>28793287FDs are at a minimum ~30-40k. Mid 20s if you get a good deal and it's in shit condition. The experience isn't worth the cost.the gc8 sti is basically the only 90s jdm halo car that's actually a reasonable price for what you get at this point.
>>28794956>cheap and plentiful [thing from every hobby] always get destroyed until they're not anymoreMosin nagants are now $500+SKSs are now $700+The Misadventures of Tron Bonne, a game I got for $10 in a clearance bin, is now $400+
>>28793251>ai generated wrap on a real car
>>28795768No fucking way SKSs are $700. I thought that even semi-rare variants being $500 was crazy.
>>28795654yes. there are still plenty of good deals around for sub-100k mile and mostly unmodified examples, but not for much longer.>affordable when new>average owner absolutely trashed them despite cheap maintenance>lots of aftermarket support>good fundamentals, underpowered stock>replaced by a new model that's only better on paperI want another one
>>28795727That's why I buy new and destroy it with mods within 250 miles. If anyone is going to rape my car it's going to be me
>>28795774yupbubba'd shit plastic stock ones are ~$500, norincos start at around $650-700. rusky and yugos I'm not sure, I think they're both into 4 digits now. For a fucking sks.
>>28795676This is cope. If you can "afford" one and get buyers remorse because of the price, you can't really afford one. Everyone I know that bought new doesn't regret buying one but they all make 500k+.
She will be mine...oh yes, she will be mine.
>>28797294https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choice-supportive_biasThis is sneedcope for them living in flyoversville and still not being able to afford a real PorscheHint: if it has gay eps or an ipad dash, it's a fuckin narpHope that helps!
>>28793287I mean i guess if you think like 30-50k is expensive cuz I see them going for that on bat every so often
>>28793244MK3 SupraI had chance to buy one in 2018 for ~3500 usd but was too afraid of such old and fast car.Now those cost ~10-20k usd
>>28793244>For me, it's the air-cooled Porsche 911. I give up. These have achieved permanent meme status and will forever be priced higher than the ownership experience warrantsWeird. When I was a wee lad people were practically giving these away. I asked my dad why they're so cheap and he said people can't afford to fix them.
>>28793244I dont get any young guy who wants a porsche. you're gonna look like a 60 year old bald guy long past his prime driving around. nobody associates these cars with being cool except old men. young guys should either buy a real sports car or something interesting.
>>28793244I could post a pretty long list but it all basically boils down to either being too expensive or too unreliable with very little available spare parts. Possibly both.
>>28793244I always wanted a caterham. too much of a pain to get in america though and I'm gonna end up under the wheels of some woman on her phone if I ever drive one with any regularity.
>>28795753>Every time I went to work on it, I found three more things that were broken.This is me too and I think I'll soon be getting rid of my turdgen Firebird because things just keep breaking and it doesn't stop. Doesn't help I'm in Europe so not only barely anyone knows anything about these cars I also have to buy parts from the US.
>>28793255Thats what I don’t understand about the CRX>Built by Honda as cheap econobox in the 90s>Ffw 30 years>Go on Fb marketplace>Base model CRX in shit condition for 13k in my areaWhy are weaboos like this? Its literally the slowest piece of shit that Honda built yet they still go for thousands of dollars. Like, it should only be work $750 tops.
>>28794312Yeah, there used to be a pretty clean e30 318i someone was selling for like $5k about 10 years ago but I passed it up cuz it was auto.shoulda jumped on it even if I didn't swap it I could have at least made a profit
>>28793244In a way I did the opposite of giving up>owned ae86 in the early 2000s>sold it and owned various more powerful cars>couldn't stop thinking about how the ae86 was more fun>wait 15 years for prices to come down>surely people are over the whole initial D thing by now?>prices just keep going up>fuck it. >buy low mileage ae86 from japan>it's still sitting in the carport waiting for all the money I'm going to need to throw at it. I should sell off my other cars to fund it but the reckless attitude that led me to buy the car in the first place is now lacking.
