>>28797719Who cares? Tesla was something elon created to take advantage of free money the government was handing out. It's basically irrelevant now.SpaceX is where it's at.
this >>28797722tesla was only ever good at making EVs because they were the only company doing it. the only reason they still exist is because it is literally illegal to buy chinese EVs in the US.
>>28797722>>28797729Tesla’s is still the third best selling car on earth and ranks in the top 10 even china. A Chinese ev coming to America wouldn’t do anything but keep Tesla nearly where they still are.
>>28797719it was always inevitable that tesla was going to lose market share. they started at literally 100%, remember? nowhere to go but down.anyway, tesla has 5 problems in europe right nowa) the whole "muh elon is a natzee" thing definitely didn't help, we have retarded brainwashed liberals here too. esp among the boomers, who are a very big part of the new car buying crowdb) another big part of our auto sales are not really sales, they're corp leases, and guess who is working in those departments in those corps? yup, lots of those boomers/fags/liberal women from (a)c) legit pressure from below by cheaper offerings from euro mfgs, and some chinks too, despite tariffs. something like a renault 5 or fiat 500 ev is a complete non-starter in burgerland, but over here, cars like that are very much in use in our citiesd) cybertruck is straight up not allowed in our streets, and the s/x are imports so they get some tariffs added to their prices (also they're straight up old and not really desirable)e) no fsd. its arguably the most persuasive argument in favor of a tesla, and its still not allowed here so, yea, tesla is playing with some pretty serious handicaps here. only 2 models really, a shitload of propaganda against it, and their biggest feature straight up not allowed.despite all this, the model y is still the best selling EV, since its just so fucking good. the model 3 is doing pretty well too, but definitely less well that the Y.i fully expect both of them to do even better once fsd starts being approved for use, which afaik is not so far away. some countries (iirc NL and another one?) are supposed to allow it this year
>>28797740>third best seeling car on earthpicrelliterally 10s search
>>28797770Those aren’t cars, those are brands, dipshit. 10s on google couldn’t teach you reading comprehension even with an AI to spoonfeed you.
>>28797770car not make retard
>>28797791what car is a Tesla's?
>>28797749>no fsdHow can Europe be so fucking based?
>>28797740>Tesla’s is still the third best selling car on earthIt's easy when you sell essentially two car models and that's it.
Why the fuck would anyone even consider buying a BEV that wasn't a Tesla?FSD is like having a personal chauffeur. Do any of those other cars offer that?
>>28797919Mercedes has had lvl2 self driving for a couple years now. The problem is not that no one has it, its just that EU cannot make regulations to leglize self-driving that quickly unlike Austin or SF.
>>28797919as already mentioned above, fsd is not available in europe, for regulatory reasonssame goes for most of the rest of the world, actually. i think its available in australia? maybe a couple other places?but yes, if fsd is available in your market, imo it makes teslas the only cars you should consider. no other feature is as impactful or worth giving fsd to get.(unless you're specifically looking to buy a fun weekend car, in which case obv fsd is not relevant, and ofc you'd want to buy some ice that is naturally aspirated, rwd, with a manual)(also unless you can't charge at home, or you're towing, or live in the arctic circle, or there's some other reason why you can't do EV)>>28797952>Mercedes has had lvl2 self driving for a couple years nownigga pleasebarely passable lane centering + adaptive cruise is not lvl2 self drivingnobody has anything that's even in the same ballpark as fsdwell, except waymo, presumably, but their shit is not available for private cars (and also, if the recent bruhaha with the power outages is any guide, is also much worse than current fsd anyway...)
>>28797967>nothing in the same ballparkHave you not seen the news?https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/05/technology/nvidia-chips-mercedes.html
>>28798000so, nvidia is selling chips to merc? what does that have to do with anything? you can go on youtube right now and watch fsd sucessfuly complete countless trips of arbitrary lengths, in every sort of conditions imaginable. not just start&stop traffic, not just highway miles, but everything, from peoples driveway all the way to parked at their destination, including city streets, b-roads, twisty mountain roads, obstructions, construction, accident avoidance, fucking everything.that's not to say that fsd is perfect, ofc, but aside from getting confused in weird parking lots and sometimes hesitating when changing lanes, its currently a real, functional, personal chauffeur that can do 99% of your driving for you.when merc has something that can do that shit, im sure the internet will let me know.
>>28797719Depends on whether Europe can be politically rewired or not. Right now, they are experimenting with socialism, so they dont like that. Also America makes Europe seethe
>>28798000lab research isnt same as 8+ million cars on the road with self driving capabilities
>>28797722>elon createdHe didn't. Elmo stole the company from it's founders.
>>28797722Its the 8th most valued company in US right now
>>28797749Why are you playing down Elon Musk being a nazi and outright hostile to Europeans, our car companies and economies?
>>28798462Elmo being a nutzee isn't relevant, him being a hostile foreign agent is. Imagine if Piech or Winterkorn would've spent a shitton of lobby money to rile up the US Hispano community; they'd be classified as enemy agents, and Volkswagen would've been insta-banned.
>>28797722>SpaceXBut space is fake and gay.
>>28798069>Right now, they are experimenting with socialismlollmao even
>>28797719tesla makes american evs with huge batteries and overpowered motorseurope needs a more subtile approach, and now that there is competition offering exactly that, tesla's stocks are down the drainif they don't make a euro-sized model, they are fucked
>>28797749>the whole "muh elon is a natzee" thing definitely didn't help, we have retarded brainwashed liberals here too. esp among the boomers, who are a very big part of the new car buying crowdBut he is, and an oligarch on top of that. Owning a Tesla is a red flag and a political statement, it means you simultaneously cuck to Elon, the US, nazism and oligarchs. You'd have to be retarded to do even a single one of those things. It's perfectly acceptable to vandalize Teslas and attack their owners.
>>28798557C tier bait. Don't try as hard next time.
>>28798071>self driving capabilitiesAutopilot™**cannot actually autopilot
>>28797749Basically this. They only sell two cars (3 and Y). They need to make a Model 2 to capture the Fiat 500/Renault 5/ID.2 market share and a Model W(agon) for the boomers with a big family but don't want a SUV.They could have made them years ago but instead Elon is fucking around with Cybertrucks and Cybercabs.
Buying a Tesla today makes you look like a faggot
Tesla are average cars with great marketing. Because of that they live and die by the way people perceive the face of the company. Everybody thought they were cool when they assumed Elon was a genius billionaire brain surgeon engineer. But they found out that he's just an annoying autist.
