>>28798118
>locking diffs
>in a poorfag mom car
LOL
LMAO, even.

>>28798118
>it would be the best jack of all trades car of all time
Does that mean it'll set itself on fire? Because it's a kia.

Or you just buy a fuckin grand cherokee

>>28798200
fiat is too unreliable

>>28798118
Please just fuck off. Literally no one else on earth cares about your single mom transportation

>>28798118
>if they made a completely different car it would be the best car

>>28798118
Just buy a fucking 4Runner or a Tahoe with a proper drivetrain... People spending $50k+ on these "off road" trim crossovers are delusional.

>>28798216
its the best selling car in the uk, and the third best selling suv in 'murica

>>28798222
cruder, rougher, much more expensive in gas costs
>pushrod
>proper
in 1970

>>28798222
>its the best selling car in the uk, and the third best selling suv in 'murica
Yes, lots of single white females need transportation and are too retarded to spend a little bit more on something good.

>>28798234
single white females determine the future of the male genetic elite

>>28798232
Executive chauffeur companies drive millionaires, billionaires and dignitaries around in Tahoes and Suburbans. A gas Tahoe does mid to high 20's on the highway and the diesels can get 30+. That's about the same as what these pigfat crossovers get.

>>28798234
Has it been in production for almost 100 years like the Suburban?

>>28798239
>Executive chauffeur companies drive millionaires, billionaires and dignitaries around in Tahoes and Suburbans
cuz the point is to waste lots of money on people being too lazy to drive themselves to spending a lot on fuel is part of making it seem justified as an expensive experience
tahoe is rough and archaic
>Has it been in production for almost 100 years like the Suburban?
the problem is it hasn't been updated much in 100 years

>>28798237
cope asian and indian females are now on top, white females are largely seen as useless dumb vapid whores now
sorry you had to find out this way

>>28798272
t. lesser beta male who doesn't qualify for white wombs and is coping heavily

>>28798282
oh no i dont count qualify for MLECCHA wombs, whatever will i do

>>28798314
mleccha?

>>28798222
I get it. I don't need a "proper" SUV. I just want the ground clearance and bigger tires and AWD so I can drive over wet grass sometimes. So if I can get in a crossover with better mpgs and a better ride then that's cool

>>28798665
Apparently the fuel economy on the Tacoma and Tundra is pretty abysmal - like 275 mi between fillups vs ~ 425 for the Kia. And that's with the 4 cylinder hybrid.

>>28799396
>425 for the Kia
That's paying way too much for such a shitty car. How many fire extinguishers are you going to throw in for that price?

>>28799408
It's not shitty or it wouldn't be so popular despite it's brand name having a shitty reputation.

>>28798118
It'd still be too damn ugly

>>28799424
I don't look at it. I just drive it. You can't see what it looks like while you drive it!

>>28799423
>It's not shitty
How many "can catch fire while parked" recalls have they gotten? Because those types of recalls aren't normal. Except for shitty cars like hyundai and kia.

>>28799425
You still look at it while you're walking up to it, and you still know you're driving an ugly wart. The only way around this is teleporting into your car.

>>28799439
I just don't care because there's other much more important factors besides looks.

>>28798665
It doesn't matter what you "need". You're stupid to pay more for an inferior vehicle that doesn't achieve anything over the superior option.

>>28799455
>I just don't care because there's other much more important factors besides looks.
Like warmth when is self ignites.

>>28799455
Then what are you doing on the enthusiast board if you're not an enthusiast? An enthusiast would care about every part of their car.

>>28799472
the speed at which my car heats up now vs the one I had 20 years ago on cold mornings is insane! It's so much faster now!

>>28799474
>you can ONLY like fast generic conservative sports cars like I do!!!!
no, the speed limit is low as fuck I will never enjoy that outside a track and I'm poor anyways
I spend my money W I S E L Y

>>28798118
What manner of mental illness drives you to keep making this same thread over and over again?

>>28799486
have you driven a recent model Kia?

>>28799497
Answer the question, bot.

>>28799481
>no, the speed limit is low as fuck I will never enjoy that outside a track and I'm poor anyways I spend my money W I S E L Y
...What? I never said anything about speed limits.

>>28799481
>the speed at which my car heats up
when the kia sets itself on fire while parked it gets hotter than any real car

>>28799461
It's not "superior" though. It's better at some things and worse at other things. It might be better at the things you want it to be better at but if it's worse at the things I want it to be good at then it's inferior.

>>28799513
you are suggesting I get some impractical hot rod instead, right?

>>28799516
this doesn't happen it's a meme

>>28799520
I'm suggesting that you're on the wrong board.

>>28799518
A truck based SUV is better at everything than a crossover especially a crossover with off road tires.

>>28799523
except you know riding comfortable on roads and turning

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>>28798118
wow that is ugly as fuck

can you imagine working all day then being forced to walk towards that thing in the parking after work, then actually having to get in it and started it and drive it? In plain sight? Where coworkers and memeber of the general public, some of whom are likely attractive females, can actually SEE you get into that?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA just imagine Lol

>>28799529
at least u can fit a bunch of luggage in it and it doesn't have a pushrod engine

>>28799523
It's not better at ride quality/NVH or MPGs

>>28799527
Why are you making retarded shit up? You haven't been in any of these vehicles.

>>28799537
Are you retarded? What decade do you think were in?

>>28799534
can you imagine leaving the airport after flying all day then being forced to walk towards that thing in the parking at the airpot, then actually having to get in it and started it and drive it? In plain sight? Where friends and family and memeber of the general public, some of whom are likely attractive females, can actually SEE you get into that?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA just imagine Lol

nobody carts around luggage anymore gramps it's not the 50's we uber now

>>28799520
>this doesn't happen it's a meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUNfmGH89_0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6e0u5Xsen8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFzJeoQ8nXw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUadMhnU7xM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zesq4tQcTdM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPu2zcsPKrI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPwuSYGTpSM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fTXj8ZMBFI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeEw3YLJ6ic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wwBWdqtxAc

>>28799546
so this doesn't affect the new sportage generation at all?

>>28799543
im gay, i dont care what women think

>>28799554
>so this doesn't affect the new sportage generation at all?
Are you pretending there isn't a widespread problem? Because there is a widespread problem.

>>28799555
that they fixed and no longer affects newer models
its not like they aren't offering a free fix for the models that were recalled...

>>28799556
>that they fixed and no longer affects newer models
That was the lie for years and for years that lie continued to be a lie.
>>28799556
>its not like they aren't offering a free fix for the models that were recalled...
Is that better than buying a real car that doesn't need a recall to keep from self igniting? Also, when is a recall issue not free? Oh, and also... some of those car fires happened after the free recall failed to keep the car from self igniting without any sort of collision.

>>28799566
>That was the lie for years and for years that lie continued to be a lie.
none of your videos showed it affecting the newest generation kias (k3 platform)
>Is that better than buying a real car that doesn't need a recall to keep from self igniting?
yeah cuz you get a better car otherwise

>>28799571
>none of your videos showed it affecting the newest generation kias (k3 platform)
Did you know those recalls happen AFTER the problems are identified? You apparently don't. That makes you very stupid.
Every single kia model prone to catching fire started off as a new generation without any known fire without collision problems. Every. Single. One.
>yeah cuz you get a better car otherwise
Most people consider a car that doesn't self ignite to be a better car.

>>28799585
So you agree that the fire issue does not affect any K3 platform cars?

>>28799588
>So you agree that the fire issue does not affect any K3 platform cars?
>>28799585
>Every single kia model prone to catching fire started off as a new generation without any known fire without collision problems. Every. Single. One.

>>28799599
but you cannot link a video about a new gen kia catching fire just old ones...

>>28799605
>but you cannot link a video about a new gen kia catching fire just old ones...
When the older ones that caught fire were still new gen, the same was true. Doesn't help the people who had their kia catch fire, did it?

>>28799609
anon, its a totally different platform
the ingredients that led to fires don't exist in newer kias

>>28799615
>the ingredients that led to fires don't exist in newer kias
Because this time is different than all the other times because you say so?

>>28799657
well, it hasn't been reported as a problem in the newer ones at all...
so I'd say yeah, it's not an actual issue

>>28799663
>well, it hasn't been reported as a problem in the newer ones at all...
So the non impact fire recall over the fuel pump in the 2025 kia sportage wasn't recent enough? 2025 feels like it was just over a week ago...

>>28799667
im not saying they are perfect, but they aren't the only manufacturer with recalls, and that recall you mention only affects 600 cars. unlike toyota, which fucked up making engines and has no fix for their issues caused supposedly by machining dust

>>28799677
>but they aren't the only manufacturer with recalls
non impact fire recalls? That's different than the infotainment screen sucking. Very different.
>>28799677
>and that recall you mention only affects 600 cars
which means they are still plagued with new reasons for issuing recalls over non impact fire risks as recent as last year
>>28799677
>unlike toyota, which fucked up making engines and has no fix for their issues caused supposedly by machining dust
The camry hybrid problem is more comparable. If they continue to have non impact fire problems for the next decade, they will be as bad as kia.

>>28799554
>im gay
Obviously. Now please go get AIDS and die instead of shitting up the board even more by posting about fucking Kias

>>28799706
Kias are nice and underrated.

>>28798118
Why come to a car enthusiast board to talk about this shit?

>>28799784
Mental illness makes people do lots of strange things. Like post the same thread over and over and over.

>>28798118
This is strictly an uber driver car.

>>28798222
You're not even delusional you're literally just retarded.

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>>28798607
Apparently, you were talking to an Indian.
https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/text/MLECCHA/
https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/text/MLECCHA/
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/MLECCHA/

>>28799792
pretty nice for an Uber

>>28799784
there's more to life than racing

>>28800048
Care to expand on that? Why waste money on a throuw away appliance when you could spend the same on something built o somewhat last?

>>28800712
Yeah, like nice comfy luxury cars, or maybe capable work vehicles for the trademen. What you posted is a vehicle that is good at nothing, and really serves no purpose other than draining the wallets of people on welfare

>>28801391
>What you posted is a vehicle that is good at nothing
its good at holding all your shit for road trips
its comfy on the highway, it drives itself

>>28801392
>its good at
getting the windows broken by kia boys because kia saved pennies by "forgetting" to install the engine immobilizer in the US. Kia made cars that could be stolen with a phone charger. They weren't stolen for parts or to be sold, they were stolen because there was gas in the tank. Once the kia ran out of gas, it would be abandoned. Because even free kias aren't worth the cost of gas to keep running.

>>28801753
>getting the windows broken by kia boys
doesn't apply to the k3 platform ones - they all have immobilizer

>>28801756
Not being vulnerable to the exploit won't stop some retard from breaking the window in and trying. Plenty of Kias that weren't vulnerable to the exploit got their windows broken out during the height of the Kia boys bullshit, and it's still happening to this day but at a lower rate.

>>28801759
Anon, if that were true, you would hear a lot more about people breaking into random Kias.

>>28801756
>doesn't apply to the k3 platform ones - they all have immobilizer
Don't tell me, tell the idiots who remember how easy it used to be and how long it used to be that easy. They are the ones breaking windows while carrying a cell phone charger.

>>28801762
>Anon, if that were true, you would hear a lot more about people breaking into random Kias.
It took the thieves making tiktok videos of how easy those cars are to steal for any of this to be heard in the first place. Kia boys aren't making videos about how easy it is to break a window but not steal a car.

>>28801766
>they are doing it they just aren't making videos about it
ah ok how convenient for your argument

>>28801762
You do hear about that. Especially back when it was new. It was a huge thing.

>>28801846
You don't hear about people breaking into NEWER Kias that cannot be hotwired because people were confused and thought they could be just because its a Kia.

>>28801865
>that cannot be hotwired
Kias weren't hotwired. You just had to unclip a plastic cover to pop out the locking mechanism. The key going into the ignition was more decorative than providing any real security.

>>28801865
It's died down a lot but yes, you did actually hear about people breaking into newer Kias not vulnerable to the exploit all the time back when it was hot. These people are retards and thought "Kia badge = free car". Even now you still occasionally see it happen.

>>28801876
>Kias weren't hotwired.
I thought they were using an app connected via usb to the key
> Even now you still occasionally see it happen.
kinda impossible to prove like WHY someone stole a vehicle unless they tried to rip off the start stop button I guess thinking it could be taken that way

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>>28801890
There was no electronic fuckery required. A USB A connector just happens to sort of fit over the nub on the ignition switch that the ignition cylinder turns, and the ignition cylinder is mostly plastic so you can just rip the column cover and cylinder off to access it. There is no data transfer over USB and the nub can be turned by other things like pliers too, the meme is just the USB cable because everyone has one of those.
t. fixed several of them after they were stolen

>>28801902
people are allowed to make mistakes and grow from that

>>28801942
Yes, but gooks aren't people. They're soulless bugmen that produce trash crossovers.

>>28801951
true, but they put more effort into their cars than americans do, and the results are significantly better

>>28802008
No they don't, and no they're not. They're cheap lease-bait for poorfags.

>>28802031
there's tons of 2010-2020 Sportages/Tucsons clogging the roads though. And I've noticed the Seltos sells really well for older women in rural areas, too.

>>28798118
that thing ugg

>>28802589
it's what's on the inside that counts
I also don't get why you can't get green colors that are foresty but metallic it's either like non-metallic neons on BMW that are very loud or these grayed out green colors.

>>28802624
no color on earth will make that ugly heap of monolid chinkshit gookshit dogshit look decent

i'd rather kill myself (literally) then drive that.

>>28801942
>make mistakes
ESL posters deserve to be rangebanned.

>>28802637
Agreed, starting with yourself.

I love ESL posters. We need to allow MORE.

>>28802650
Try again, ESL.

>>28802652
English is my first language.

>>28802658
>guy who doesn't recognize an extremely common saying claims he isn't ESL
Keep backpedaling, it's funny.

>>28802660
I'm just lost now. I agree the exterior styling is overwrought. The best features are the space you get for the money and all the features and tech.

>>28798118
I hate seeing these, they're horribly ugly and soulless. It's a car that you only buy once you've completely given up and just admitted that you're nothing but a cog in the machine. Anyone with a shred of ego left would not be caught dead in a Kia

>>28802757
it's a practical hatchback for people who want to carry stuff and people in comfort and have the latest technology and features and safety while doing it

>>28802768
Could you sound any more like a corporate shill? I couldn't be that soulless if I tried.

>>28802783
you cannot get a practical car with hands free driving and AWD and all the other goodies for that low a price with any other manufacturer

>>28802799
See? Not a scrap of self left. No reasons why YOU like it, or why YOU would recommend it. Just a bland reading of spec sheets and promo material

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>>28798118
too stupid looking for me to care what's in it

>>28802805
body on frame platforms offer rougher rides, more noise, cruder handling, and less room for people and gear

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>>28798118
I've got the car for you.

>>28802814
okay

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>>28802805
I wish new Patrols were still cool

>>28802826
apparently the new one is just as disappointing as the old one
sad!

kia!

>>28802858
Is it even possible to build a disappointing Jeep these days? Expectations are already so low.

>>28803791
yes, apparently the old engine was crap, and they made a whole new engine, and the new one is slow and crap too, I wish I could find the exact review I read this in, but they were clearly not too pleased with the overall effort of the new Cherokee