>a car made for THE FEELING>auto onlyI don't get it. It's like making a very good beer but only sell it as non alcoholic
And it's open-diff only, too.It would probably be my favorite modern car if not for those two omissions.Oh well, miatas are cheaper anyway.
Europeans detest enthusiast shit in their enthusiast cars. If it weren’t for Americans, cars would suck ass.
>food analogyOf course
>>28802396A fine car is the mustard on the sandwich of fulfillment
>>28802393ThisRangeban eurocucks
>>28802386Car made for videogames. No one actually drives or owns this garbage in real life. Too many other cars that blow it out of the water for way less money. Unironically just get an 86 if you want a lightweight THE FEELING car. Or if you are a snobby euro get a lotus. I don't know what it is about European cars and buyers but rather than getting something that works, does everything they want, and does it cheaply, they instead drool over something ten times the price that does the job way worse but has better commercials and "prestige"
>>28802398>Average IQ on /o/ drops under 90 immediately
>>28802425>Europeans to this very day think vw did nothing wrong by cheating emissions The average IQ of European posters is below 90.
>>28802386>MANual faggots againoh fuck off manual trans have been blown away by decent autos and DCT's and manualised/sequentials for almost 20 years now
>>28802393I think American cars are cool. But I think British cars are even cooler.
>>28802481auto isn't as fun though and that's literally all I care about
>>28802497if you really wanted fun you'd buy a liter bike
>>28802418GR86 is 1270 kilos, Alpine A110 is 1109. Thats a big difference.
>>28802528Wow neither of those are particularly light.
>>28802393Stop trying to force amerislop.
>>28802517>motorcycle>>>/n/
>>28802532American buyers are the only reason any brand makes any good cars, not just American ones. But enjoy your auto-only “”“enthusiast””” cars that make you so hard.
One of the better looking modern cars considering it doesn't look like it was designed by a gaming chair factory or apple
>>28802539American cars are fat auto only slop
>>28802546A Camaro handles better than any European poser mobile while being manual.
>>28802559Fat trashy amerislop no white person would ever want
>>28802392>mutts can’t comprehend a car so light and beautifully set up is doesn’t even need a mechanical diffheh…
A quaife lsd is like 1k bux if you really need one (you don’t in an a110)
>>28802584white person has lost all meaning on this website. it became a catch all buzzword meaning "person who agrees with me on everything" and there's probably some niggers and indians out there who are white based on your definition.
>>28802594I'm that anon. Yes I am an American, but my car is ~50 lbs lighter than the A110 and also is RWD with double wishbones on all 4 and has a manual transmission and LSD. So....
>>28802393this but the oppositeall the good cars are european mutland makes fat barges
>>28802707>I am an American, but my car is ~50 lbs lighter than the A110My bad, just checked, it's 150 lbs lighter.And for what I paid I could buy my car over for what I paid 17 times to get to the UK base price of a A110. 17 times! And I can wrench on my own car, which is nice. I'm glad they're making cars like the A110, I really am and its one of my favorites, but where's the manual and why does it cost 2.5 new miatas?Wanna discuss how France has a 70+% nuclear power grid but uses literal slave towns in the African desert where workers don't know the risks to get their uranium?
>>28802707is your car mid engine?just because it’s light doesn’t mean it’s as perfectly set up as the A110
>>28802731No, it's a 25 year old miata. It's probably better set-up than the A110 on the same tires. And certainly not worth 17x the price for more power.
>>28802734miats are great, but the a110 drives fundamentally different. alpine are no strangers to racing and if the a110 needed a diff they would’ve added one. but if you desperately wanted one, you could just buy one for a few bucks
>>28802386If they fitted a manual they would have to sacrifice double wishbones, or make the car much wider.
>>28802531they are by modern standards
>>28802749>if the a110 needed a diff they would’ve added one.Look. I'm a mechanical engineer and have worked for 2 car companies and a motorcycle company.The A110 does not drive "fundamentally different[ly]," it's an automatic open diff miata with more power.Throw it up against a Miata Club (the trim with LSD) on the same tires and the only advantage the Alpine has is power. And maybe perceived social status, if that matters to you.Why you would pay over twice as much to cuck yourself out of a manual transmission and LSD in this kind of car, I don't know.That's not an insignificant amount of money for the slight difference that is mostly power-related.
>>28802762delusional.>muh that’s the A110Ryeah and it’s open diff. it’s an A110 with some glued on aero that’s all
almost 200 HP difference btw
>>28802774More power, wow.>>28802776>almost 200hp difference btwOh yeah, you wanna mention that that G87 M2 BMW is 1,400 lbs heavier than either the A110 or miata, which is why the times are similar given the power differential?You can't change two large variables at once and claim shit.
>>28802801as you can imagine it’s a bit difficult to find a direct competitor to the A110. point being: the a110 works beautifully without a LSD. and it sure does
>>28802528>>28802418Yes, the a110 is lighter and has a better engine, but it still has a lackluster engine and lacks a manual transmission and an LSD. The lack of LSD is fixed relatively easy, but its omisson on an $80,000 car is criminal. Also, girls hate it. Literally the only car I've ever see that made a girl go "ick". I'd still buy one, but it would be after a bunch of other cars. Cheaper and easier to just get a nice GT/cruiser for long drives and a nice sports car (in manual) for fun.
>>28802809>>28802776https://youtu.be/WXk-W4nTg88?t=912>turbo mx5 track build mx-5 on slicks>7:42 laptime
>>28802835For a long time Lotus and McLaren didn't fit LSDs to their cars. I don't understand the logic but it's not because they were being cheapskates. Heck, even most Porsches sold don't have an LSD.
>>28802481what is it with these useless benchracers and their obsession with numbers over actual driving preferences. have you ever driven a car before?
>>28802855>slicks
>>28802855>BTGthat layout is missing 1.2 miles of track. that’s like 20 seconds or more
>>28802756Why not just buy an older car? You could get something just as light with an LSD and comparable power for less than this thing.
The car that buck broke the amerisharts.Don't worry muttoids, only 16 more years until you can enjoy my sloppy seconds.
As much as I like this car, for the cost of one i'd rather own an Exige.
>fat mutated mutts eternally seething about europe in yet another threadDo you not get bored of this? Also hint - you're also Europeans, just mutated ones. You didn't just magically spawn on injun land.
>>28802386I actually like it just because it adds variety to French cars. Alpine is like a French Porsche/Lotus, with an iconic blue color and some race heritage as well. More choices is good.
>>28802481>automatic goodRicer
>>28802528The 86 actually works, is manual, and is like a third of the price.
>>28803149You're right, Porsche and Lotus also make electric SUV slop.
>>28802386Auto is for sporty cars to get the racer feel.Manual is for poorfags and is used on every shitbox out there.It's only in America that manual tx is considered like some sort of thing only the TRUE masters can handle.
>all these Europeans defending the worsening of sports carsThis is exactly why cars would suck if they only appealed to Europeans who don’t like fin cars.
as someone who appreciates the a110 and wishes it had a manual, a lot of people here misunderstand why it not coming with a limited slip isn't that big of a deal. locking the diff on decel is advantageous for FR cars with front weight bias/weight transfer. for a MR/RR car you lose a lot of rotational yaw on decel at corner entry with a locking diff and you don't even get that much of a benefit on accel at corner exit due to the rear weight bias being centered closer to the rear tires, so your inside rear tire doen't need a whole lot of help to grip especially if the car is power limited. I'm sure it makes a miniscule difference on some cars but it's not enough to justify the extra price and slightly worse handling on what is supposed to be a fun and nimble car.
>>28803315Europeans used to drive manuals 99.9% of the time.When you want "feels", you get a semi-auto car with paddles to get the racer feel.
>>28803362The only manuals Europeans drive are diesels where they just leave it in one gear the whole time and let the torque pull them out.Europeans hate any kind of driving engagement. And their cars are boring slop for boomers who just want to Laron as F1 drivers.
>>28803404Oh yeah, there's the shartmart seethe. Don't worry little guy, I'm sure your Muskrat tablet slop is engaging.
>>28803460>manual transmission Camaro vs auto tragic “””sports car”””Embarrassing
autistic debate thread about nothing
>>28803469>Car with 150 more hp gets the same time on tracks that reward power.Wow.Bench racing is silly and doesn't describe driving feel at all.
manuals are for slow cars to make them feel faster and more engaging.
>>28803477>european tracks are suddenly all straight line slop like nascar and not the twisty wonderland they claimAnother W for being a car enthusiast in America i guess. Let’s see what happens when the European car has more power.
>supercharged V6 manualKNEEL
ITT: Retards who don't know how to enjoy things and need to argue with eachother for other people's approval on what they should or shouldn't like
>>28803344This is insane levels of cope. So were you also defending the Mustang and the base model 400Z for this?>>28803493Whats funny isn't just that american cars are way better and you could buy ten of them for the price of one of theirs, its that an average Amerishart working at McDonalds could afford an SS 1LE, and in Europe only their royalty could ever even imagine driving an Audi V10. Every european on this board drives a turbodiesel lada or seat cupra jellybean cuckcar "hot hatch" with 80hp.
>>28803513>in Europe only their royalty could ever even imagine driving an Audi V10.Complete bullshit, the S6+RS6 sold like hotcakes in their V10 generations and so did the R8>Every european on this board drives a turbodiesel lada or seat cupra jellybean cuckcar "hot hatch" with 80hp.*laughs in supercharged jag*
>>28803513>insane levels of cope>mustang and 400Z>the entire post was about MR/RRso you can't read and/or you're a retard. just because you didn't understand my point doesn't make it a cope.
>>28803521>S6/RS6Two autotragic-only barges. Even the challenger came with a manual despite being 4500 lbs.>R8They sold like, a few hundred V10s a year in Europe.
>>28803505>Toyota Camry engine
>>28803505Wish it didn't cost as much as Corvette
>>28803552Why are European brands incapable of making affordable sports cars despite how subsidized their industry is. VAG is partially owned by Germany and they can’t pump out a rwd sub 40k sports car?
>>28802392Wait what? I knew the frogs fucked up and made the car auto only for some fucked up retarded frenchbrained reason, but it doesn't even have a LSD? Fucking stupid snail eating cunts.>>28802594This is some serious cope
>>28803564Europeans will go to insane lengths to defend this shit. American cars are cheaper and have MORE enthusiast parts in them to boot.
>another one gets utterly raped by the open diff 300hp A110heh
>>28802722if you're gonna compare UK prices Alpine A110 starts from>£55,160MX-5 2.0l starts from>£33,515MX-5 1.5l starts from>£28,585.00either way i'd argue it's twice the car
>>28803564>>28803574lightweight power limited RR/MR cars do not need an LSD. it just makes them understeering pigs. the only reason you would want one in the A110 is for bragging rights, that's it. see >>28803344
>>28803576>120k track package to compete against a 40k non track package camaro
>>28803578Not only is it twice the car, it’s an exotic, low volume production car that’s reliable and cheap to run and maintain.You see (far) more Ferraris and Lambos on the Autobahn than A110s. Only ignorance is bliss mutts would pick a disposable camaro or miat over an A110.
>>28803591My point stands. It’s an open diff 300hp car with glued on aero from the factory
>>28803591Here is what happens when you compare it to a still cheaper C8.
>>28803600Sounds like you should buy a real super car like a c8 instead of a cope mobile.>>28803595>frog cars are reliableLmao, not a single one of these will make it to 100k miles.
>>28803604godsDAMN that’s impressive for a 300hp open diff shitbox
>>28803606>Lmao, not a single one of these will make it to 100k miles.It's the same engine as the Megane RS, they definitely make 6 figure miles
>>28803607Not impressive for a car that is heavily reliant on cup tires. Give those same tires to the 40k Camaro and it would do so much more.
>>28803610The lotus has the same engine as a Camry, and they still have shit reliability.
>>28803606what if I don’t want a „real super car“ that handles like a fucking tank? running a 6.2L V8 in Europe costs so much money you’ll save ten thousands of euros in just a few years of ownership.
>>28803612jokes on you the A110 gets even more fun without semi slicks. but even if you decide to run semis on track - which you should - A110 uses tiny tires that are cheap compared to to massive camaro tires. plus they will last much longer because the car is so light
>>28803618The alpine does handle like a tank. Why do you think it needs cup tires to actually compete with anything while the Camaro doesn’t. You’ll also be spending more money on the frog reliability and the parts will cost far more because it’s “””exotic”””. All things considered, you’ll spend more money on the charger.
>>28803623LOL. no point in arguing with you
>>28803621A cup tire is nearly twice the price of a 245 size summer tire the ss Camaro used, and they last half as long. The Camaro is more fun because it has a manual.
>>28803625Go look up the repair cost of a lotus emira if you don’t believe me.
>>28803404>source - it came to me in a dream in my diabetes caused coma
>>28803506I'm only in these threads because I like making clappers mad
>>28803680How are you making them mad by being constantly on the defense about your automatic that isn’t even fast.
>>28803691Oh, mutt-kun...
>>28803692You can’t even say anything because the thought of Americans caring about manuals more than Europeans is too embarrassing for you.
I'm sure all 10 of you will make a difference, just a shame out of the 10 US manual fans only 1 can drive one which will endlessly brag about it for some reason, as if it's somehow difficult.
>>28803678https://youtu.be/BFLLQdFf9DY?si=BQ78fW4KjLwyfO5u>7:39>james claim you can just go hours and hours without charging gear because of how “gutsy” the engine is.
>>28803713Explains why Europeans are so salty about not being able to make manual sports cars. They drive like automatic drivers to begin with.
>>28803709They do make a difference. It’s why your own brands cuck you out of better versions of your own cars exclusively for the American market. So you have to pretend the automatic is better.
