piece of shit waiting to happen or actually good for $37k?im not really a new car person but i feel like this car is calling out to me like a siren, but i'm trying to keep myself on track for a lancer. am i just coping?
>>28802484>am i just coping?>Elantra Nigga>the cars blacks are known to drivestop being a bitch and get an actual Mitsubishi Lancer Evo which is cheaper and better.
>>28802485is "building" something close to an evo out of an es/gts lancer (sans AWD and possibly 4B11T if no swap) a decent approach too, or would the costs of such an endeavor still be better spent on just outright buying an evo
>>28802502All the important mechanical components on an Evo are different (including the chassis/body) so you might as well start with another compact with better aftermarket like a Civic because you are not getting close regardless.
>>28802502>something close>a decent approach toono you broke loser. Not even remotely. Get the real deal or shut the fuck up
>>28802512>>28802505you got me there. will reasses
>>28802502>>28802515Closest you can get is buying an 08+ Ralliart, engine/trans is same as evo MR but smaller turbo, smaller intercooler, slightly different rear diff, etc.Be prepared to shill out 6k when the shift fork falls off or the mechatronic unit an heros
N's are good because the engine is made in the korean plants instead of by retards in south carolina or whatever.Its basically a type R except 10k cheaper.I bought one used so some other retard took the initial depreciation hit.
>>28802526>Its basically a type R except 10k cheaper.Honestly almost $20k cheaper, I can find brand new Ns marked down $5k off MSRP all day long.
The N stands for NIGGER
>>28802485X doesn't have the same aura as CT9A
>>28802485>Mitsubishi Lancer Evo which is cheaper and better.
>>28802525i hear lots about the SSTs in those and as much as i think a ralliart would suit me they never had manual options like previous gens and thats what puts me off desu. just preference really.
>>28802484Kona N is more attractive imo
>>28802485an evo in good condition will not be cheaper than an elantra n in any planet unless you live in japan
It's nice and all but weird that they update the Elantra with the K4 and update the Kona into a whole new generation but don't migrate the N engine upgrades. >>28802538namyang
>>28802484>piece of shit waiting to happen or actually good for $37k?It's a gussied up FWD Korean economy sedan priced at the level of RWD entry level luxury sedans, (manual) sports sedans like the WRX, and RWD coupes like the Ecoboost Mustang. I'll let you decide, think of this as an IQ test of sorts. FWD trannyverse gookshit or literally anything else?
>>28802562There's no way anyone would think this, this is just a Korean Nismo Juke
it’s among the most fun road cars you can buy right now, regardless of price
>>28802562I drove one of these and it was pretty impressive. the amount of lift off oversteer fun is unachievable in any other fwd car I have ever driven, this includes modded GTIs and Type R‘s
>>28802484ugg af bruh
is this the N general?absolutely amazing carshttps://youtu.be/Wk55HhZZsaU
>>28802562>KONA N MENTIONEDKONA N MENTIONEDbased!https://youtu.be/_N_u_WGIEfQ
Should I get a 2024 N Line? My local hyund-gay dealership has one for 21k, manual, used 1 owner car. Im looking for a 'fun' carIts not gonna grenade on me or catch fire like the 2010s models?
>>28802484>Elantra NIt's actually not bad for a FWD.A buddy has one on 200tw that he does autocross with. Very talented driver, a Spec Miata racer since like the 2000s.But the N is still FWD, so no matter how good it is; it's still a flawed experience.
>>28802675no. get the proper N or don’t bother. they are completely different cars
>>28802675what about a used elantra gt turbo?or the K4 GT with the same 1.6T engine. Just any of the small hoons with the 1.6T really.
>>28802675It's a Hyundai, it absolutely will grenade and catch fire.
>>28802745delusional. you realize the i30N/ElantraN keeps winning the 24h of burgerking races year after year, right?no shitbox would survive that
>>28802754>he thinks race cars are the same as consumer models
>>28802761same engine
>>28802761>he doesn’t know what TCR means
>>28802761Depends on the race series and its regulations right?
>>28802764Not the same oil delivery, cooling, brakes, or aero though.>>28802765>>28802773Touring cars are based on production cars, but are not actual production models. The only real requirement is that the overall chassis of the vehicle (sans required roll cage) and a mostly un-modified engine are the same as consumer variants.
>>28802587I just prefer the hatchback layout, which I consider the Kona to be.Plus Elantra has some weird door panels and overly aggressive front end.
>>28802562>>28802821This is your brain on Korea.
>>28802526it's so depressing to look at, though. zero styling.i'd almost get a wrx over it and those are pretty ugly these days.
>>28802830>it's so depressing to look at, though. zero styling.I don't think they're pretty but for the opposite reason, they are way overstyled
>>28802484$37k no. Used for under $30k, yes.
>>28802485>just buy a trooned out Evo that has 300,000 miles on the chassis and 150,000 on an engine swapped 10 years ago.
>>28802484>FWD "'sports car"Can't do it. If it's an econobox or crossover or whatever I don't care. But if I'm spending tens of thousands of dollars on a performance car it has to be RWD or at least AWD.
>>28803912You can get them new for just a hair over $30k if you shop around and bargain. They're often listed for mid $31k, just gotta bargain a little more and unlike other dealerships Hyundai/Kia often will go for it.
>>28803920>just gotta bargain a little moreGo in when it's a fire sale.Just don't park near anything flammable that you care about.
Purchasing a Hyundai in the modern day isn’t even a poor financial choice anymore, it’s an ethical failing of the soul to reward a company making abhorrent products like this. You have to be inwardly ugly to purchase something outwardly ugly such as this.
>>28803949>make an affordable, good quality product that is tremendously fun and shits on every other FWD product on the market - including the CTR>chuds are still mad
>>28803959I understand that for you, your meagre wealth predisposes you to buying compromised (FWD) vehicles of dubious quality, but that doesn't mean we need to acknowledge that as anything but a coping strategy.
>>28803963explain dubios quality.is it Porsche quality? No. Is it Toyota quality? Easily
>>28803976>dubios quality.I do not speak to inbred colonials. This only further proves my original point.
>>28803949Not nearly as bad as BMW or Audi.
>>28803976Dubious means the quality is in doubt. Unlike British quality, which is undoubtedly shit in every single instance.
>>28803981Those two, as much as they have become plastic imitations of anything they previously produced, still offer traditional drive train setups with somewhat acceptable displacements. Hyundai has none of that to cling to.
>>28803982shame how all "british carmakers" are now just jeet/chink/saudi shell companies making useless electric cars'cept morgan and caterham I think, and those are just as impractical I guess you have Ineos, but they screwed up by having recirculating ball steering and getting the low hp variant of the BMW 6.
>>28803976>missed a letter at 4:23am grim
>>28803985bread on hood, chud
>>28803989Of what, a 507? I don't own one. Not a fan of the krauts. But they are still elegant cars, despite the nationality.
N-GODS run this board!
>>28803949>outwardly ugly such as thisIt's not exactly ugly per se. It's just extremely boy racer. If I was 17 I'd probably think it was cool. After late 20's it's really cringe.
>>28803985Audi's traditional drive train is just FWD though
>>28802484It's not worth it at 37K.You get it used 3 or so years later, when it drops to 24K as a CPO.
>>28802587I'm starting to like the way the Juke looks these days
>>28803986what they did to Lotus is fucking tragic
>>28804711Emira is basically the last Lotus, after this it'll be all electric.
>>28804697
>>28804703the first MYs (2022) are pretty much exactly that price. spot on, anon
>>28804736why are they like this
>>28802610>KonaN the BarbarianSeriously impressed. Quite the sleeper. Just looked and alas, we don't get that model in Oz.
>>28805218They made a whole new platform/generation of Kona but haven't offered it yet with the N engine. Sad!
>>28805223The Ioniq 5N ate its slot. Just another reason to hate EVs.
>>28805218for real. it looks like one of those 100hp cuckboxes but it handles like the i30N which blows everyone’s minds. On top of that they are pretty good tuning platforms. The theta-II engine is rock solid and makes 360hp with just a remap. it’s also proven in the 24h of burgerking races where it’s been dominating for the past few years. people are truly missing out on those cars just because of the Hyundai badge
>>28805225tbf the Ioniq 5 N seems to be the only fun EV on the market. but yes, I really hope Hyundai goes back to making ICE cars now that Europe is shifting away from their EV only planshttps://youtu.be/GwRfWe5EMwg
>>28802484Just get an LCI E90 M3 Competition or N54 335i already godsDAMN
Hyundais are miserable Redditmobiles
>>28805287>The theta-II engine is rock solidAre you even trying?
>>28805295go ahead and tell me your nightmare story about your theta 2 blowing up
>>28805291N55 > N54
>>28805308>go ahead and tell me your nightmare story about your theta 2 blowing upNot surprising for a shill here to suggest a warranty ending remap on the motor that just got a court ordered extended warranty due to the engine being too shitty.
>>28805315I did my remap post warranty. Everything’s running flawlessly. Nice try though
>>28805312I actually laughed at this
>>28805490because?