What causes such a phenomenon?Americans usually strive for cars that are considered luxury in most of the world but when it comes to wanting a smaller pickup truck they want that stupid Japanese pickup that most people in japan don't even want which is why they are being exported in the first place.
>>28819967>german automobile>practical
>>28819967We have pigfat giant truck fatigue so I guess we're seeking out tiny ones?I just want an S-10....
>>28819967>most people in japan don't even wantMost people in the developed world don't even want one either. We don't have to be sheeple and follow the herd though. I like mine.>>28819974Am I right thinking an S10 is 90's Ranger sized?
so is this the practicality you crave? or does nothing satisfy you anymore?
it'd be practical if you hanged yourself but you should try a stupid, small and overpriced snubnose to the roof of your mouth instead op.
>>28819967Amerifats are fucking retarded and should have been nuked in the 60's to oblivion.
>>28819967>What causes such a phenomenon?Being a retarded basedllennial.
>>28819977>Am I right thinking an S10 is 90's Ranger sized?Yes they were direct competitors.ND theres still plenty of both available in the used market. If someone really wanted one, they could buy it.
>>28819967OP reads:>Americans are so stupid for thinking a Japanese Kei truck ISN'T ENOUGH>A Suzuki CARRY is OVERPRICEDBut a Ford F-150 isn't "overpriced?"And do you really think every American is a farmer, hauling loads on the interstate highway all-day-long?No.A Daihatsu Hi-Jet is everything some average American who wants to load and unload some things for work or play would need. And it costs NOTHING.If I wanted a utility vehicle for my workplace, why-in-the-fuck would I spend $87k on a GMC Sierra?I'd buy a tractor.>HIGHWAYWhy would I buy a truck at all?
The small Japanese Truck with an actual truck engine confuses and enrages the American weaboo
>Americans usually strive for cars that are considered luxury in most of the world but when it comes to wanting a smaller pickup truck they want that stupid Japanese pickup that most people in japan don't even want which is why they are being exported in the first place.
>>28819967>they want that stupid Japanese pickupThey really don't. America sells like 2.5 million trucks a year. Kei truck sells are in the high hundreds, maybe 1000 a year and the majority end up on farms.
>>28819967What makes you people think people want small trucks? Remember the Luv? Remember what a raging success that was?
>>28819967>stupid small overpriced >kei trucks go for a couple thousand to 10kretard faggot op
>>28819967>What causes such a phenomenon?because you're wrong and retardedall my neighbors who live on farms got kei trucks to replace their shitty side by sidesthey're superior in build quality and features and are street legal
It's the reverse. Americans want neither of these, but far more people drive wagons than that little gay thing at the bottom. So IDK what youre talking about
>>28819967I like both wagons and gei trucks THOUGH
>>28819967What's the point of these when cheap full sized trucks are readily available?
>>28820261>a 4cyl full size truck
>>28820261$12,000 dollars off the sticker and better gas millage?
>>28820261Not everyone wants a full size truck
>>28820273I regularly haul 3.5t (7700lbs) with my 4 cyl work van.
>>28820273>a lawnmower engine powered "truck">>28820274A brand new Kei truck in America would never be $10k.>>28820277Then you don't need a truck. Buy a UTV instead.
>>28820281Just going by the industry estimates. Its about how much they sell for in the Japanese market. We'll see how low American manufacturers can get the price if and when they're built. I'm optimistic.
>>28820281>UTVNot street legal
>>28820286They're definitely not $10k new in Japan. In America you can't even get a golf cart for $10k so you have a snowballs chance in hell of ever getting anything roadgoing for that price.
>>28820286A retards optimism. Even dink built UTVs are going to be 15k min and they aren’t road legal
>>28820291Kei's aren't either in a lot of states. Why would you need it to be? The only usage case for a kei truck would be to drive around a farm or a piece of land. These are not realistically usable on American roads and you would already have a going to town truck.
>>28820295They are in mine and I'd rather not have the restriction if I can avoid it. Redundancy is always good. They won't be great on the highway but frontage road use would be fine. I have other cars for long distance travel so it not being good at that is irrelevant to me.
>>28820261These trucks are obese
>>28820292>They're definitely not $10k new in Japanhttps://www.suzuki.co.jp/car/carry/detail/You can get one for as little as $7.4k.
>>28819967>create absurd strawman>why is this?Print this post out, roll it up, and shove it into your urethra.
>>28819967>What causes such a phenomenon?Lead in the water
>>28819967even with all the import fees tacked on, kei trucks are cheaper than any domestic truck with a working engine
>>28819967Sometimes it's fun to have something different.Stop being a stop liking things i dont like autismo.
>>28819967>practical car>an overpriced foreign wagon with no ride height, minuscule tires, hard suspension, high strung engine and overly complicated transmissionJalopnik reading NIGGER, I hope a chinese exchange student crashes his Mclaren whatever the fuck on your shitbox and cripples you for life
>>28820560how does that hurt practicality?
>>28821582different != good>top being a stop liking things i dont likeIt isn't about OP, or me, or anyone personally; it's about tastelets liking shity things then saying they are good just because they like them
>>28821711You are a Jalopnik reading faggot, you have no right to call anyone "tastelet", the only right you have is to kill yourself
>>28821728Kek fuckin tastelet who the FUCK is Jalopy Nikolaus?!kei cars are gei as fuck; get over it
>>28821733You think that speaking in niggerbabble can mask the redditor stench coming from you? Kill yourself, you jalopnik reading NIGGER
>>28821742Kek weeblets are so fuckin hilarious godsDAMN
>>28821742Stop engaging with it
>>28821752I accept your defeat
>>28821754
>>28819967>$65k car vs $6.5k car
>>28821758
>>28821758This is just how it is here. People who have never driven said vehicle, pronounce judgement on it. Many such cases.
>>28820292Cheapest ones are $3k-5k
I want both.
>>28819967I like small novelty items. I used to do all of my computing on a Fujitsu U820 before my computing needs kept creeping higher and higher.A small novelty truck or van that fits on a postage stamp is just right.
>>28822153You do know it's not 2001, right? I said NEW. Also you're a fucking retard for paying that much for a 25 y/o truck. That's what they go for at 15 years old here in Canada and even then it's not worth it.
>>28822295Bullshit. I just did the conversion.
>>28822325Okay? And with their taxes it's double that OTD. You also missed where I said there's no chance it would ever be that cheap in the US market.
>>28822330>no chance it would ever be that cheap in the US marketCorrect. There's shipping, title and taxes to pay on top of that number. I don't know what that costs in America.
>>28822337You're still not getting it. There's a massive difference between the final cost of a vehicle in the third world vs the first world. Getting a vehicle past Americas stringent emission and safety requirements is insanely expensive. They would be burning money by selling $7k new trucks.
>>28822295yes if you add a bunch of retarded qualifiers and hypotheticals you're corrector you can literally go buy one right now with less than 10k miles and have something that beats out any UTV on the market and is street legal for 10 grandthat's the value proposition and clearly there are people who think it makes sense
>>28822361Can you even get A/C on a UTV? So good on a hot day here in Oz.
>>28822361Having 10k miles is irrelevant when the thing is still 25 years old. Everything rubber is going to be drier than a mummy's pussy and will need to be replaced eventually which brings us to parts... Time is money. There is no "value" in waiting weeks on parts when you can just have the wife drop by the Polaris or John Queer dealer to pick up a part on her way home. Even if these were fully legalized it would be years before you would have a realistic local parts network.>>28822364You can get them with cabs with A/C and heat.
>>28822375There are already several distributors in the USA who maintain a large stock of parts. Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
>>28819967Yeah everyone wanted one of these pickups during covid but now you can pick them up for $1500 because no one used them. You want-a-holics that make threads bitching about muh small trucks and muh classic body new cars are fucking retards
>>28822375Having owned a Subaru Vivio Bistro and a Mitsuoka Galue in the US, I can tell you you're wrong. Most of these cars get inspected and maintenance frequently prior to export. Once they make it here, they're going to be in better shape than your average F-150 stripper, and will handle more abuse too.
>>28822387ymmv I guess. All I know is my 2002 North American market Suzuki was a parts nightmare so I can't see these kei vehicles being any better. If anything they'd be magnitudes worse. >Most of these cars get inspected and maintenance frequently prior to exportThey do but that doesn't change the fact that they come from a salt island. Here in Canada we can get them at 15 years old and they can still be pretty crusty so they're going to be much worse at 25 years. Don't let that fresh coat of black paint fool you.
>>28822145>3 pedals>luxuryAnon, I...
>>28822344>Getting a vehicle past Americas stringent emissionKei cars have phenomenal compartive emissions. The "failure" it meets in U.S. legal sales is only due to its weight. No, I'm being serious; it says "bad emissions" because it puts out a TINY AMOUNT scaled to it's tiny size.But a massive, obese truck that emits shittons and terrible mpg and eats everything? Pass! Compared to how heavy that truck is, the engine "technically" scales better than a kei car!! Hahahaha! It's the entire reason these vehicles are getting bigger; it's a standard loophole of nonsense.>and safety requirements is insanely expensive.Motorcycles are allowed on the road.
>>28822379Having access to consumables is not the same as having a parts supply. What if you bash the headlight and need to replace it? Or a door or a tailgate? What if the transmission needs new syncros or a clutch? What if the engine needs new bearings because it turns out running a motorcycle engine flat out for long periods of time in a 2000 lb truck just to get it up to it's top speed of 60mph prematurely wears it out? You really think a Kei truck could survive long at American road speeds when they were designed to drive 25mph on Japanese dirt roads?Face Anon, for the same price as a 25 year old kei truck you could just buy a 25 year old American v6 single cab truck and not be a rolling hazard on the highway. "Oh but those are all clapped out" Then fucking replace any worn out shit, junkyards are full of those things because they made millions of them and it's not hard to get one to last to at least 250k miles. It's not like an 25 year old kei truck isn't full of 25 years of old Japanese farmer farts anyways.
>>28822495>Kei cars have phenomenal compartive emissionsNo they fucking don't. If you know anything about small engines you know they release a disproportionate amount of pollutants compared to larger engine because emission controls chokes the shit out of them. Stick a cat on a 200hp v6, it might cost 10hp it's a wash, put one on an engine that only puts out 50hp and it might cut the top speed severally. That's why emissions equipment on lawn mowers and motorcycles is anemic as fuck and is only expect to last a few hundred hours for a lawn mower and a few thousand miles for motorcycles. As opposed to a car where they are expected to stay emissions compliant for a minimum of 100k miles and usually stay complaint for the life of the car. High fuel efficiency ≠low emissions
for me its the mazda porter cab
I don't know what the use case would be but I want one.
>>28822624Used to run Porter tail lights on my Mx-5 as part of the Garage Vary tail panel. Backup light was Daihatsu Hijet.
>>28822394A reputable dealer will show you what you need to see. My Bistro came from Mitsui Co. Ltd. They show video and pictures of the undercarriage.Of the two I've had come in so far, none have had rust trouble. Waiting for my Origin to come in, hoping that it continues the trend.
>>28822631Never thought they could be used for this wow, anyways you live in japan or something? i doubt this lights from an obscure kei truck is very accessible out japan
>>28819967dude you've been SEETHING about kei trucks for like 3 yearsjust give up
Americans who want to drive kei trucks on American roads are retarded. I hope they enjoy getting squashed in a wreck. Or flipping end over end if you step on the brakes too hard. I drove one for work 3 years in Japan and they make sense there, kinda. I wouldn't mind a kei truck for a work beater to use around the land. Beats paying obscene prices for a mule ATV and you get an enclosed cab with heat/AC.
>>28822432>3 pedals>luxuryFor me, the joke was more about all the exposed sheetmetal inside, the plasticy seats and the rubber floor mats. My model was only available as a manual and painted Superior White.
>>28823262>I hope they enjoy getting squashed in a wreck.YEAH!Man! It's, like, I'm always getting into highway wrecks! Like, 5 times a year! And a collision LESS than 35mph?? CONSTANTLY happening! Like, every time I drive!!When I buy a car, the FIRST thing I consider is:>I hope my vehicle is gargantuan, so I can survive ramming other cars and trucks traveling 60mph!
Driving an impractical car is a status symbol. Bonus points if it looks cute.
>>28823497>I hope my vehicle is gargantuan, so I can survive ramming other cars and trucks traveling 60mph!That's how women actually think when buying a new car
>>28819967>What causes such a phenomenon?Novelty
>>28819967If I lived in town, I definitely wouldn't mind one of these as a handy runabout. In the country? No fucking way. You need highway speeds, 4wd, a bed to haul 4x8 sheets of whatever and firewood and good towing capacity. This mini-dingus qualifies for none of those.
>>28820261the only thing more revolting than a gigantic american pickup truck is one with a 4cyl engine
>>28822375>Having 10k miles is irrelevant when the thing is still 25 years old. Everything rubber is going to be drier than a mummy's pussy and will need to be replaced eventually which brings us to partsthese know nothing retards are still going with generic worst case hypotheticals as do why buying these trucks is le badmeanwhile all my neighbors who own them have no problems, and parts are easily found on amazonanti-kei fags are 10x worse and more retarded than the most weebish fanboys
>>28819967saw a very clean manual a6 avant (c6) yesterday in the states. didnt even know you could get those in stick by that generation. very kino.>>28820261shrink this down by 40% and give it a totally spartan interior and im in. they have morbid proportions. i just want a small 2 door 6 foot bed truck for working on the house and the backyard that would also serve as a reliable back up car for when my daily needs work.
>>28820261>Cylinder deACKtication>ACKtive Fuel Management>4-cylinder full sizesAbsolutely disgusting.
>>28823262>Or flipping end over end if you step on the brakes too hard.wut
>>28823497In a kei truck you dont have to worry about the 5th wreck.Or the 4th.Or 3rd.Or 2nd.Because you died in the 1st.
>>28824288Two fatties in a short wheelbase truck and it can do nose wheelies under hard braking. There was a comedy on Australian TV called Fat Pizza where it was performed.>flipping end over endunlikely
>>28824209Yet you want one with less total displacement than just one of my cylinders?>>28824225You know the proportions will only get worse as you make the truck smaller right? If they shrink the outside where are all the airbags and shit going to go without eating into the interior space?>>28824246Again... You want a truck with a snowmobile engine in it...
>>28824613Your arguments appear nonsensical. I sold my frame up restored Ford truck after getting my first Suzuki Carry. The small truck was just so much more fun to drive. So light and maneuverable.
>>28824705How about comparing it to a not 50 year old truck?
>>28824712I haven't driven any modern American full sized pickups. In Australia I drive mid sized mainly for work. Same applies. New mid sized pickups are boring to drive compared to the smol trucks.
>>28824718>I haven't driven any modern American full sized pickupsThen you shouldn't be giving any opinions on trucks. Try driving a fun truck before saying trucks aren't fun.
>>28824720They cost three times as much as a mid size here and are plagued with reliability issues, mainly due to the hand-built RHD conversions. Restored and driven plenty of American cars. Mostly they are too big and unweildy for the roads here. Not fun, but look fabulous.
>>28824298literally just don't crash retard
>>28824720>comparing $100k full size trucks to $10k kei trucks
>>28824749I never said fun trucks had to be expensive. You can have plenty of fun in a sub $5k 20 year old half ton. Not only will it be more fun but it's also more practical and infinitely more comfortable.
>>28824758>You can have plenty of fun in a sub $5k 20 year old half tonNot understanding this. What do you consider 'fun' about driving a full size pickup?
>>28824763well you see it rides like shit and also handles like shit and is also heavy as shit and also gets garbage mileage and also isn't fast
>>28824763>V8>RWD with a locking diff???? What's not fun about any of those things? These "old" trucks, at least the GMT800's I've driven and owned handle pretty well for that they are. Combine all those things and you can have fun in the rain, on the gravel roads and obviously hours of winter hooning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67UHR_24Cbg
>>28824770Hahaha, how sad. More like ballet than drift.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OGJhTGVuQmA
>>28819967Fuel efficiency
>>28819967I will get the cute Japanese truck Rabbi. You can't do shit to stop me
>>28822158the only correct answer in this thread
>>28824298I bet you're so happy the United States of America's FEDERAL LAW prohibits kei truck sales [spoiler]unless it's 20-years-old and you're registering it as "collector" vehicle, which effectively eliminates ALL restrictions[/spoiler]......but it's a-ok with motorcycles on the interstate highways!Heck; some states still don't even require a helmet!Safety, amirite??
>>28822295It's the only way to buy one. America has a 25 year import law (compared to Canada's 15 year one).If you want a kei truck in America, stuff from 2001 is the newest thing you can get.
>>28824758>I never said fun trucks had to be expensiveOhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! So this isn't a discussion about cost or price or value!You just deserve whatever you want, whenever you want it!And if anyone else disagrees with your greed?THEY'RE WRONG AND STUPID AND SHOULD DIE!Case closed!
>open thread >third worlders insulting Americans for having big trucks>third worlders insulting Americans for having small trucksI dont understand, what exactly do you want? Are you too afraid to admit you spend 16 hours a day thinking about Americans, and so you have to hide behind such a low IQ topic?
>>28819967Its for people who need to haul furniture or shit from the hardware store but dont want an over sized pickup with a 4 foot bed.
>>28825199Third worlders are mad at Americans for having choices in trucks, or trucks at all, it would seem.
>>28825524I've seen this before. I remember many years ago, islamic pedophiles pretending to be European were making hundreds of posts insulting Americans for having no "good" chocolate... but then getting mustard gas ass blasted that Americans have access to all the chocolate in the world, because this means America bad. These child predators really do seem to feel insecure about having no choices except what abdul goatmamoud gives them
>>28825207>haul furnitureMoved house using my Japanese mini truck about two years ago. More loads than a bigger truck, but it was only about a mile so it didn't matter.
>>28819967You do realize Americans have scientifically been proven the be clinically retarded right?
>>28827502I don't see any kei trucks on the moon.
>>28824720Bigger is actually less fun retard.
>>28827585It's not. Especially when it's some small gutless piece of shit. You need power to have fun. The real world is not some anime.
>>28827586"Disbelief"
>>28819967That describes *perfectly* how an American actually uses his car (Americans who doesn't need a 4 wheeled penis extension)> Drives alone> Drives to go to work> Drives to go shopping> Has problems with parking, because he has no parking spaces available.> Needs something fucking reliable> With low fuel consumption> So that he can afford an actually fun carA kei truck is *the* perfect answer for that. But all Americans have are full-sized pickups so the American man will buy a 90s/00s full-sized pickup because those are still reliable or lease a new one and pays his brains out on the car payments with 250% apr
>>28830545>(Americans who doesn't needRangeban all fucking ESL posters.
>>28824765but anon, that doesn't sound very fun
>>28830545except the reliable part, i very rarely see these things over 150k miles
>>28820261>bed is 4ft off the ground >parking is a chore>strung out 4 cyl on a pigfat bodyI just want something to haul dirt bikes and the occasional washing machine and pile of compost
>>28830954>bed is 4ft off the groundIrrelevant. Ever seen a flatbed truck?>parking is a choreWomen somehow manage just fine. If you can't park with multiple cameras you shouldn't be driving. >strung out 4 cyl on a pigfat bodyGive it fucking up with the high strung bullshit when you're comparing it to these 40hp pieces of shit.
>>28830956>4ft off the groundonly 29" off the ground on my lifted mini truck. Much more comfy.>40hpMine's got plenty for hooning around the city.
>>28819967We miss small trucks, not that hard to understand. The OEMs won't deliver anything good so we go to foreign markets.
>>28830956i dont want a flatbed, i want a small truck thats designed to carry an appliance or a couch not a fucking fifth wheel
>>28830985Okay so buy a fucking half ton. Their beds are not that fucking high.
>>28820273Its a car the price of a Nissan Sentra or Chevy Trax, what the fuck do you expect?
If only that slate thing offered a diesel electric option like the edison trucks or a train.
boy i ain't got 6-8 weeks for some gay little lil truck to ship from the japans. i got work to do on the farm NOW.
