We need to retvrn.
>>28834805No we don't. SB's fucking suck if you live anywhere where they gravel the roads or if you drive a lot of gravel roads. They fog up and die when the glass cracks. I don't get the plastic housing hate. Yeah they can get cataracts but you can also maintain them so they don't do that or you can replace them for $50. They're way the fuck better to adjust, they throw light wider and farther and it's a 30 second operation to change the bulb. You also have a plethora of bulb options although that's a bit of a touchy subject.
>>28834805They’re great on my MGB and cheap ass hell to replace. Literally nothing to complain about.>>28834859Skill issue, faggot.
>>28834859>Yeah they can get cataracts but you can also maintain them so they don't do that or you can replace them for $50.I just paint a few layers of 2K clearcoat on it and it's good for the lifetime of the car.
In my car I replaced the sealed beams with the Hella conversion kit which uses regular H4 halogen bulbs. It was a huge upgrade.I don't know why anyone would want to return to the sealed beams. That sounds like something someone who doesn't have to drive a car with sealed beams would say.
all the newfangled stock LED lights are sealed beams
>>28834805Don't agree. I have retro styled 7" H4 reflectors, which I got from a classic Mini parts store, but they're not great. Thinking of getting these 7" LED's as an upgrade.
>>28834805Not necessarily sealed beams but at least back to glass lenses. The lenses on my '92 integra never faded. The ones on my '05 legacy wagon needed touched up a couple times over the ten years I had it. My truck hasn't needed it yet.
Sealed beams SUCK FUCKING ASS.Im old enough to remember going ino the autoparts store when they just dropped a pallet of sealed beams next to the register.>is your headlight round? Grab one from the left. Rectangular? Grab one from the right.You think it's cool.and quaint because tesla/vag/temu 50,000,000,000k retina burners are the cool thing to have in (current year) but theres a happy medium where modern tech allowed us to see the road without fucking over the oncoming cars.Pic is my 1968 F100 with LED upgrade. I can see 5x what I could before- which includes lighting up the treeline on the side and those pesky suicidal deer.Ill add this though.People who complain are urbanites that have never been more than 50 miles from where they were born.I lived in Las Vegas with 70% tint on my windshield and I caught myself a few times driving around at night with my headlights off. Because the street lights are that bright and everywhere- didn't even notice.I moved to the sticks and had a relay go out on the drive home and literally had to stick my head out the door to see the road.You take visibility for granted.I challenge any of you dipshits to post a car title because I guarantee youre not running sealed beams.Faggots.
>>28834900>People who complain are urbanitesAbout what, the retina burners? They are 1000x worse in rural areas because it's actually dark outside and your eyes are adjusted accordingly
>>28834805Yes.BRING BACK STANDARD SIZED GLASS BEAMS My 2000 model car has headlights yellowed to all fuckMy 1983 car still has perfect lights (not that it would matter because these badboys cost like $20 to replace anyway)
>waah sealed beams suck because I never replaced my crusty old headlight harness and i'm getting a 5v drop at the plugfucking skill issue, I was blinding motherfuckers in my z31 after I ran a standalone headlight harness pumping 13.5v through sylvania cool blue sealed beams.
>>28834951Surely Z31s were semi-sealed from the factory?Or is that something only GODYOTA did back then?
>>28834952My '86 used 6054's.
>>28834954Semi sealed with H4 bulbs?
>>28834955nope, regular old sealed beam.
>>28834956TOYOTA CHADS WIN AGAIN1983 semi-sealed housings with the Toyota logo on them, standard H4 bulbs
>>28834885I did this too, best of both worlds
>>28834805Somewhere in an alternate reality, the standard headlight law was not repealed, and instead got appended with 3-inch standard sealed projectors in the year 1991, prompting a revolution in car design.
>>28835025Like this?
>>28834805>omg all new cars look the same>vgh, i wish we got back the mandatory law that made all cars look the same
peak front end
>>28835027Kinda but no covers.
>>28835047standardised parts are good actually
>>28834900I fucking hate those ugly led ((((((upgrade))))) kits.Please kill yourself immediately
>>28834885>modern light breaks>5000 dollar repair and the part is proprietary so it takes weeks to get a new one
>>28834900this guy's right, only children who have never driven a sealed beam car outside of a city would disagree with him. i grew up with sealed beams and its not even a question how much better modern lights are. i even still own a sealed beam car and it's borderline dangerous to drive it out here on rural roads after dusk.
>>28835126HelloSemi-sealed beams have existed for over 40 years faggot >>28834950Put whatever the fuck retina burning xenon HID LED H4 nigger bulb you want into it
Xenon headlights were peak, why did we switch to the shitty modern LEDs?
>>28834900>with LED upgrade>I can see 5x what I could before- which includes lighting up the treeline on the side and those pesky suicidal deer.see, that's the good thing about sealed beams. you as a manufacturer can come, certify a better sealed beam design- like that led upgrade- and it's automatically applicable to every single car that has ever came with sealed beams. buy a mid-10s car with halogens and you have the suck of halogens combined with inability to properly and legally replace them because reflector housings are designed for a tiny point light and not for grids of leds.
>>28835228right. the primary point of the thread is the commonality and simplicity of a universal unit. put whatever bulb/element you want.
>>28835228thisnot sure how anon could miss the point so hardthey CAN BE as good as technology allows in the footprint, which is honestly fairly large, and the ARE DEFINITELY CUTE
>>28834900Those chink LED sealed beams look like a good way to blind oncoming people
>>28835144And those cars have to be factory colors and only with hubcaps and bias ply tires too, right? Oh and be sure to keep all of those smog devices functioning correctly because thats how it came originally equipped- gotta keep everything looking factory....Fucking poser.
>>28835144that has nothing to do with anything i said and i never asked for your help or advice. ps you might be retarded.
>>28835108I dont give a fuck what you like.Its not your truck.Go build your own.You should go to SEMA in November and trash talk the restomod builders on the convention floor.But you wont, because youre a fucking pussy.
>>28834805I just like square headlights
>>28834859glass h4 conversion housing chads just can't stop winning
>>28834885sealed beams become WAY brighter once you install a headlight relay harness. not as bright as a H4 halogen, but still actually useable mind you. But yes I feel that H4 conversion housings are the best of both worlds. You can still get cheap glass housings at many retail auto stores.
>>28835108
>>28835390>>28835393Dispersion pattern still sucks. Half the light is wasted. I dont care whats happening 100 feet above me.If you've driven the same vehicle with sealed beams or even H4s for years, on the same road day after day, changing to chinkshit LEDs is absolutely amazing.I have a 15 mile stretch that winds through a forest. On a typical night ill pass zero cars but see 20-30 deer. Ive been driving that route for a decade and know every turn. When I changed to modern lights I was shocked at how everything was more visible. Not just being able to see 3x farther in front but also how much more the treeline on the sides of the road was lit up.I bought more chinkshit lights to swap out all of my vintage vehicles.Safety trumps minor aesthetics.And for those of you that want to get pissy over it- theyre just fucking lights. Literally direct replacement plugin units that take 30 seconds to swap out. Nothing was modified.Sealed beams are consumables as it is. How long do they last? 5 years? 10? (AI says 1-3 years). So how many times have they been replaced on that "68? Thats another bonus with LED is they have 10x the lifespan.
>>28835426>And for those of you that want to get pissy over it- theyre just fucking lights. Literally direct replacement plugin units that take 30 seconds to swap out. Nothing was modified.that WAS the point of this thread...standardised headlight housings are great like that
>>28835426>Dispersion pattern still sucksalso last time i checked the dispersion pattern (at least for my lenses) throws the light in the same areas as later proprietary semi-sealed halogen housings that became more common in the 80s onwards
>>28834900>Rectangular? Grab one from the right.Sounds kinda based to me, way better than, "bumped the corner of your Camry into something? That'll be $1200 for the hesdlight assembly, fuck you".
>>28834805Nah, I'm good. I'll take seeing at night over your autistic tantrums.
Come home White Man.
>>28835457i don't think it's autistic to want standardised headlight housings so you don't pay 2 grand when a proprietary LED assembly shits the bed
>>28835457>>28835479This. That's all we're asking.Industry standard headlight housing form factors. All manner of reflector and bulb designs are possible within the standard form factor and that gives car owners more options.Want an H4 compatible housing? Sure.Want a fully integrated LED assembly? Sure. You're not trapped with the expensive proprietary housing the manufacturer forced on you.This doesn't mean you have to use original sealed beam incandescent bulbs from the 80s.
>>28835102What's next? Standardized engines and chassis? GTFO with that commie bullshit.
They just look so good
>>28835500kek this is a great one
>>28835500This.Why stop at headlights.Let's standardize fenders and grills also.And only use 1 size of tire.And use the same 1.3L turbo for every car. That way auto parts stores only stock 1 type of sparkplig, 1 type of airfiilter, 1 type of oil etc.Sounds briliant.
>>28835500>>28835560>if you standardize one thing you may as well standardize all of themThis is a stupid slippery slope argument. Many things in cars are standardized. All of your nut and bolt threads are standardized, tire sizes are standardized, lights are DOT approved...
>>28835563anon they're being sarcasticor at least the first poster was
>>28835298>>28835301>SEALED BEAMS SUCK THEY'RE NOT GIGANIGGA BRIGHT ENOUGHactually you can put whatever bulbs you want into them>SHUTUUUUUUUP THAT DOESN'T COUNT
>>28835563Where do you put the line then?
>>28835560>Let's standardize fenders and grills also.based>And only use 1 size of tire.Tyres are already standardised you absolute retard, you obviously don't know what standardisation even means.>That way auto parts stores only stock 1 type of sparkplig, 1 type of oil etc.Spark plugs and oil already standardised.
>>28835147cheap and low power requirements
>>28835574Where do you? There are also crash standards, fuel efficiency standards, emissions standards, there are tons of requirements to sell a car. That's why it's so hard to start a car company these days, R&D costs billions for a single model.
>>28835577I have 14", 15", 17" and 20" tires. I also use 5w20 and 10w30Last I checked a 15" tire is not compatible with a 17" tire.
>>28835572Sealed beam housings suck dick, not just the bulbs. It doesnt matter if you put an H4 in it (which still sucks) it still has a shit pattern. You seem to have missed that additional point.Go be retarded somewhere else.
>>28834805What I see OP as trying to say is that people have proven they cannot be trusted with composite headlights because they will throw some off-road-use-only emitter in there which completely fucks the beam pattern blinding everybody else but they think they're fine because THEY can maybe see better. It seems we have some of those itt. The only way to combat this is to have a sealed unit that everyone must use. Doesn't have to be the old stuff but we need to get away from this everybody-doing-their-own-thing arrangement we have now.
>>28835563you're being sarcastic, but it would be much more efficient to standardize on a few vehicle types/categories
>>28835586>Where do you?Not at the headlight housings because I don't want every car to look the same
>>28835705Every car looks more the same today than when sealed beams were standard dumbass.
>>28835737Bullshit.>'56 Ford
>>28835737>>28835749>'56 chevy
>>28835737Lol no
>>28835749>>28835751Kek, stealing those
>>28835626>dey can't be standardised>dey come in duh different sizeHilarious that the sealed beam haters are too retarded to know what standardisation is
>>28835637works on my machinemaybe you're just going blind from gooning in a dark room too much?
>>28835751>>28835749>>28835754Are you actually retarded?>'81 Chevy
>>28835751>>28835981>'81 Mercury
>>28835983>'81 BMW
>>28835983'81 Chevy impalaYou fucking failed, hard.Faggot.
>>28835985>'81 MercedesOh and by the way, these cars are 25 years removed from the ones you posted and standards were in place the whole time, and covered the greatest variety in automotive aesthetics in all history.
>>28835981Are you?>2026 porsche
>>28836003>2026 honda
>>288359831981 chrysler
>>28836004>2026 Kia>>28836016All you're doing is self owning by posting cars that look so radically different from the 1956 examples.
>1981 Ferrari
it seems like no matter what generation car they all look the same regardless of headlights lel
>>28836056Well, then we should definitely go back to standard form factors so good beam patterns are standard and the assemblies are most serviceable.
>>28836066yes i agree
>>28836066>good beam patternsWell, you're not getting that with shitted beams
>>28835560>And only use 1 size of tirethat's what vw did
>>28835887By that logic a 2025 civic headlight IS standardized because it fits in other 2025 civics."Standardized" =/= "comes in a bunch of different sizes to fit your application"Fucking retard.
>>28834859>No we don't.Convinced he needs 47k lumens. Routinely blinds oncoming drivers.
>>28836390>he still can't figure out what standardisation means most intelligent sealed beam hater
>>28836436So where's the limit?How many "standards" can you have before theyre no longer "standard"?
>>28836427If you lived somewhere with moose you would be running the brightest headlights possible.
>>28834859>They fog up and die when the glass cracks. Plastic housings fog up and die when the plastic cracks.>I don't get the plastic housing hate ... you can replace them for $50.Maybe chinkshit knockoffs that you can't aim properly and will fail within 12 months are $50, but an oem plastic headlamp assembly is typically $200 - $400 per side. A high quality glass sealed beam is like $10.
>>28836390in your mind are alkaline batteries not in standard sizes as well?
>>28834805Nah, miss me with those shit pattern, 70s-looking ass pieces of shit. I'd rather have standardized HID projectors and LED inserts for things like DRLs.
>>28836638just use aircraft landing lights
>>28835426>On a typical night ill pass zero cars but see 20-30 deerThat's great you're having fun on your bambi safari but why should this be standard equipment for people who pass many cars all the time
>>28836700>just use aircraft landing lightsWhich reminds me, we need to go back to having all clear glass lenses that aren't the headlights needing to be covered on public roads.
>>28836624If it's standard across the industry, it's standard across the industryNo your 2025 Honda Civic headlight is not standard across the industryYes the 18x8" wheel on your 2025 Honda Civic is standard across the industry
>>28836700That's exactly what my old man had done back in the day when he was still a fighter jet pilot.The techs replaced the lights of his plane which he took some home with him, installing the landing lights behind the front mask.He could keep them on only for a moment or two as the ammeter went immediately into the negatives and soon the battery would be drained flat as the generator was unable to keep up, but absolutely no one would dare to keep their high beams on when flashed at.
>>28837247you can get them for pretty cheap now and online too. at least in aus. they're like 20 bucks each lel
>>28837247>absolutely no one would dare to keep their high beams onBlinding oncoming drivers is ok, but only when I'm doing it.
>>28837399It's a traffic stopper when the night around you turns into day and your retinas get burned out, teach you to fuck around with your high beams on
>>28837407Everyone that puts Kangaroo Spotters on their rig is assholes. But Anon, you only do it to prove a point.
>>28837411I have no gripe with his point being "turn your brights off when there's oncoming traffic"
This thread has the dumbest fucking posters on /o/. Its amazing they all converged to champion a dead topic.Theyre the same people who would have complained that the SVO mustang aero headlights werent approved for road use.If you cant afford a $1,200 headlight then you cant afford the $800 alternator or the $2,500 tires either.Go buy another used shitbox civic, stay in your lane.
>>28837456but I want the used shitbox civic I buy to come with standard sized glass beams, instead of completely yellowed plastic shitters - that's the point.
>>28837468So go buy it.Nobody is stopping you.
>>28837489I did and the headlights are way better than the plastic ones on my newer car
>waaaa why cant all cars have a standardized ECU instead of paying $1,800 for one for my specific vehicle?!>what do you mean my windshield is $800? Why can't you use one of those $200 ones for that other car??>I'm not paying $5,400 for a transmission, my friend just spent $900 for theirs!!If you cant afford maintenance on a specific vehicle then tough shit- thats not society's problem and we"re not going to go backwards in design and function just because youre poor.Go on some boomer forum and complain about not having carbs and drum brakes anymore because thats exactly the category youre in right now.Youre not "enthusiatlsts". Youre just broke peons.
>>28834805those dogshit basic bitch lights are why your average european car from the 70s looks a decade younger than an American counterpart
>>28837399>>28837411i thoguht it was pretty obvious his gramps was doing it to get oncoming drivers to turn their high beams off>but absolutely no one would dare to keep their high beams on when flashed at.
>>28837702generally gearboxes and ECUs aren't items that could be expected to break with regular use
>>28837749Did you know that Kevlar was invented for tire use? Not "hey we could make tires out if this".Where's all the bullet proof tires today?
>>28837760Bullet proof tyres led to poor ride qualty back before BMW decided ride had to be like concrete so they were abandoned by the public.
>>28836638thats what your high beams are forlow beams shouldn't even be half as bright, instead they have the same output just with half the beam cut off
>>28836624
>>28837776Nope.>found the basement dweller that has never touched a piece of kevlar.
>>28837702Tbf, ECU is something that could be stamdardized, I mean, how much stuff does it have to do, fuel injection, ignition, VVT, boost, throttle, and OBD, all that stuff could be standardized, like modern Windows PCs.
>>28838497And now you just busted out the skis for the slippery slope. Youre in the express lane to the bottom.
>>28835998>and covered the greatest variety in automotive aesthetics in all history.that benz is the perfect example of sealed beam cancer ruining automotive designThe European version looks 10x better
>>28834805What I really want is a rollback on all government safety, emissions, and fuel economy standards to 1962. Let's build cars that do what the driver wants them to, not what the government wants them to.
Return to le kitty
>>28834950>>28834885I have this setup in my s-10 and it's genuinely better than any of the sealed LED options I've tried. Most don't know this because they rate their headlights by how badly their eyes hurt when they stand 10 feet in front of their car.
>>28839022if the yuros had a sealed beam requirement you can guarantee the front would've been designed with that in mind
>>28835027it cannot decide wheres bumperlid is at
>>28840077europoor have had 100W H4 but not road legal
>>28835147no they were not you know what is ballast
>>28835560they cannot into decide which tow hitch or both
>>28837781High beams are useless when there are other vehicles around you and in front of you. You're going to be using your low beams and driving lights 95% of the time therefor they need to be bright. >they have the same output just with half the beam cut offThat was more of a thing with HID's and bi-xeons. Most vehicles run separate hi/lo beam clusters.
>>28840177many late model vehicles simply have the headlights run at full brightness all the time, and all the high beam switch does is control a flap that blocks light output above the cutoff.
>>28840088Something that your mom becomes when she gets into my car
Picked up these bad boys for the '85 Bronco today.Same brand/style as the rounds i put in the '68 and I'm extremely happy with those so these should be pretty nice in the forest.Have 2 other sets of rounds, one set has halos and haven't decided which to put where. Im leaning toward putting the halos into the '65 mustang and the "standard" LED set in the '66 F100.
>>28844613gay
>>28844613Hideous, you should have gotten one of the H4 compatible glass lens housings instead.Halos look awful.
>>28844613I wanted to do a quick and dirty led conversion kit on my car and I just got the lightbar bowl pattern style because I thought every other shitter ebay had like these or otherwise looked gaudy and stupid.atleast my ugly led headlights just look like a led headlight and not a set of gay robot dog eyes with a gay robot dog boner.
>>28844797H4 are ancient tech.An H4 halogen is 1,650 lumen whereas these are 9,500.Or are you saying I should get those LED H4 bulbs that need cooling fans but their output is 24,000 lumens?
>>28844818The point is you can use any H4 bulb you want, including the LED ones if you so desire, while retaining a factory look so your vehicle doesn't look like an Amazons Choice special. I use those LED H4 bulbs on my motorcycles and they work great if you aligned them correctly.
>>28844818so are wheels yet they still work fine
>>28844848They still have shit reflector design.I dont want half my lumens shining on the ground 5 feet in front of my bumper.Post a housing with a horizontal dispersion pattern.Oh wait, you cant. Because they don't exist.Ya ill stick with modern tech that allows me to see 3x farther down the road.
>>28845205pretty sure h4 conversion housings will have the reflectors designed differently to a conventional sealed beam since the filaments are in different positions. it'll still be brighter than the actual sealed beam units
>>28845205>I dont want half my lumens shining on the ground 5 feet in front of my bumper.I don't want your dumbass blinding me with your aliexpress leds
>>28845429Cry more.
>>28834805Sovl
>>28845423Go ahead and find a vendor that states their dispersion pattern is like pic related.Post link.
>>28845605>DOT approval markingsimplying chinkshit doesn't throw that on any- and everything and our failed federal government does nothing but take bribes
>>28844613>>28845605The DOT does not approve products or regulate them. A lot of cheap LEDs claim they're DOT "approved" and that's a red flag. >>28846052This retard bought chinesium and thinks just because they slapped DOT SAE on it they're legit lol.
>>28846067>This retard bought chinesium and thinks just because they slapped DOT SAE on it they're legit lol.they're literally dot approved, you dumb retardif they weren't and slapped dot ratings on the feds would be raiding the entire infrastructure from manufacturing to shipping
>>28845790this shit is exactly what's wrong with modern headlightsyou hit a bump or a slight incline and suddenly everyone is getting hit with the same light output as your high beamslow beams shouldn't be bright
>>28845790these are pretty similar without the sharp cutoff that causes oncoming lights to alternate between darkness-BLIND-darkness-BLIND when they go over bumps or have clapped suspension
>>28836700Aren't those 24 volts
>>28846071>if they weren't and slapped dot ratings on the feds would be raiding the entire infrastructure from manufacturing to shippingBwahahahahaha! Go on tell us another one.
>>28846131>proprietary LED cartridge>"UV treated" polycarbonate lens>"2x" the light output of a halogenHahahahahahhahahahahahahahaSwing and a miss.https://www.holley.com/brands/holley_retrobright/
>>28846171you can get 12v ones>>28846260the point was the housings aren't an issue. halogens work great in the conversion housings
>>28846260and you wanted a vendor that had a similar dispersion pattern, well there ya go
>>28846352No.I want lights that will allow me to see 5x the distance of halogens.That requires a massive boost in lumens AND a better pattern.The holley option only addresses one aspect and the end result is only slightly better than factory.Plus we're back to the polycarbonate issue of turning yellow- my LED beams are an actual glass lens that wont degrade over time.
>>28846368>The holley option only addresses one aspect and the end result is only slightly better than factoryi dunno i mean that looks the same as factory, with the exception that the cutoff is much more linear so it's not like being in a dark room and staring at an led flashlight as it gets turned on and off repeatedly.polycarbonate is up to the manufacturer to make glass lenses which is one reason why i'm sticking with my h4 conversion housings. dunno how much your leds cost, if my housings somehow get shattered i can easily get cheap glass replacements
I'm keeping my Trucklite LEDs and cheap-ass LED light bar and there's nothing you can say to convince me otherwise.
I'm keeping my selective yellow halogens and cheap-ass conversion housings and there's nothing you can say to convince me otherwise.
A lifted truck threw a stone at my headlight on the highway earlier and cracked it. How worried should I be about something like this?
If you can install different bulbs in it, it's no longer a "sealed" beam, isn't it?
>>28846415no it's a semi-sealed unit but everyone knows what sealed beam units look like. kind of like how everyone knows where the "blind spots"are for a car even though you can technically eliminate all of them with proper mirror adjustment.
>>28846387I really dont care about "factory look". Im not trying to build a concourse car.I just want.performamce.I'll bet there would be zero complaints ITT about throwing a thunderbird IRS under fox mustang.
>>28846415The ones with removable H4 bulbs are called "semi-sealed beams"
>>28846368>see 5x the distanceYou're retarded.
>>28846708>I really dont care about "factory look". Im not trying to build a concourse car.i was talking about the light pattern...
>>28847113Once again.That example has a nice pattern but proprietary bulb that has the light output from 1995. Its no better than running a pair of ancient ass fogs. Paying for 2,000 lumens just to look kind of factory is retarded.Id rather have rice with 10,000 lumens that actually.makes a difference at night.
>>28847103Thats literally the entire point.You're just talking out your ass and have never seen them side by side. I have. Yes the difference is that drastic.Those original sealed beams were 700 lumens. Halogen upgrades took them up to 1,200 lumens and guess what, you can see farther. Now guess what happens when you go up to 10,000 lumens.What do you think happens when you have 1,400 lumens (2 headlights) vs 2,400 lumens vs 20,000 lumens (?)
>>28847140>light output from 1995maybe the LEDs from oncoming cars have destroyed your night vision, because these would be plenty bright on moonless country roads. Hell, I've been fine with the stock halogens on mine for years.>Its no better than running a pair of ancient ass fogsif that were the case, it'd at least not blind oncoming drivers.
>>28847192>I've been fine with the stock halogens on mine for years.Youve been "fine" because you've never experienced anything else.Youre running a muzzle loader because you dont need any of those new fangled cartridges....
>>28847227i have a 2018 camry. my halogens are plenty fine
>>28847227>You're running an ENIAC on a phone a month old>My phone with .000000000001MB of RAM is betterHang yourself.
>>28847238>.000000000001MBVs >5x the lumensCope more, faggot.
>>28847227I get that you think bigger # universally means better, but it simply doesn't.When you talk about meaningful improvements in visibility and drivability, there's a clear point of diminishing returns. You keep talking as if a tighter beam pattern and higher total lumens is universally better - it's not. As the peak luminosity of the beam goes up, you quickly reach a point where it starts to wash everything out. You begin to lose the visual contrast that makes actually seeing what you're looking at possible. You also start to dilate your pupils more and more. So you've got less light out to the sides, and more dilated pupils, and the shit in the center washed out. So maybe you can see in a strict sense shit farther down the road, but you cant's see shit in your peripheral at all because the contrast is shot.On most cars with sealed beams you had 4 headlights. Converting to an H4 will give a meaningful improvement in overall visibility without getting into the problems described above.
>>28847662>and the shit in the center washed outYa im sure thats exactly why pic related are running 100,000 lumens.>So you've got less light out to the sides,Literally why I was talking shit about sealed beam housings with H4s. The pattern sucks.You've never driven a modern vehicle and it shows. New headlights have a wider pattern that lights up the shoulder of the road- i covered that earlier.You thought you sounded all smart and knowledgeable when you were typing that all out but you are wrong on every aspect. Atleast do some research next time instead of pulling some pseudo-related 8th grade science class shit out of your ass without actually knowing the physical characteristics of what your trying to debase.
>>28847680>Ya im sure thats exactly why pic related are running 100,000 lumens.but those are just throwing the light all ahead of the vehicle. they don't need cutoffs etc. because it's a race car
>>28847681>just throwing the light all ahead of the vehicleThats not how those light bars work- they spend half their time sideways with the car pointing at the shoulder. They wouldnt be able to see the road.Watch some rally night vids. They light up a full 180°
>>28847680>hurrr you're wrong>makes literally no counterpointSorry I mogges you so hard.
>>28847680>Race car with a navigator on a closed track.Bruh
>>28848028Youre a fucking moron.There is no "washed out". Thats why rally drivers run 100,000 lumens.There is no "pupil dilation" issues with peripheral because the lights run 180°.Youre just making shit up and think it sounds smart when its not even based on physical evidence ive already presented.And now you have no counter argument to real world applications. You read the "pirates wear an eye patch to switch when they go below decks" meme and think yoy know better than engineers and race car drivers.Gtfo.>>28848033Is the car robotically driven or does the driver need to see the course ahead, even when hes sideways and has to make split second decisions to thread the car through the track and hes relying on his vision to do so at 100+ mph with hairpin turns?
