Which ones are good and affordable?
>>28837993If you have to ask, you can't afford itTo use the parlance of our times
>>28837993Non numbers matching with a 318.
>>28838005And yet still cooler than your bus.
>>28837993>good and affordablePick one.
>>28838009I drive a hair dressers car. I'd give my left nut to daily a V-8 Charger.
>>28838019This.It's 60 years old.They were designed to last 100k miles and be traded in for a new model because the U.S. still had proper wages.Thats not necessarily a comment on reliability- they were well engineered but all vehicles of that era were working with rubber components, not urethane so critical components have degraded just because they've past their shelf life.You either get one for cheap and pay weekly to replace/restore or pay out the nose for one that's already had the work done.
>>28838057Cars still use rubber. Tick tock fellas.
corvairs are cool and relatively cheap. it was chevy's attempt to make something quirky and european flavored. one of the first cars with a factory turbo.
>>28838095Isn't this car mostly known for being a widowmaker like (not very affordable) Cobra despite not being as fast as Cobra?
>>28838120ralph nader wrote a book called 'unsafe at any speed' and he attack that car by name but he was just bitching about cars not having seat belts and shit. the corvair isn't any worse than any car from the 60s. they are all death traps by today's standards, but who cares?
>>288381201st gen ones handled oddly due to the swing arm rear suspension (GM threw a bandaid at the issue by telling owners to inflate the rear tires more and offering a front sway bar as an option), 2nd gens are much improved and have IRS similar to the Corvette
Hard to argue against a first generation Mustang. You can literally build one from scratch out of a couple catalogs. Simple to work on. They're everywhere so finding one will be easy. Still relatively cheap unless you just have to have a fastback.
>>28838338Wasn't it something about how the Corvair rear suspension cambers positive in corners causing normies to oversteer more-quickly than expected, with almost no rear grip to recover with, causing accidents?
>>28838005>Non numbers matchingIf it runs well then who cares? No one under the age of 60 is looking for a 1 in 3568 all numbers matching Corvette.
>>28838377Honestly, I'd kill for a non-matching numbers C1 Corvette I can drive and fuck with than a perfect example that I can't drive or modify.
>>28837993>Which ones are good and affordable?They're definitely cool and worth it, I own two. What's your budget?
>>28838361It was the primary accusation in Nader's book, basically that Corvair's snap oversteer was causing drivers to spin out and roll over, which GM was aware of but never bothered to fix; but the accident rate for the Corvair turned out to be no worse than other vehicles of the same style of suspension or drivetrain configuration for the era.
>>28838357>Hard to argue against>They're everywhereThere you go.
>>28837993>>28838056somewhat affordable? mopar C bodies. Full size boats that not many people want, especially the four doors, so they'll be relatively cheaper. And as >>28838057 said, unless it's been done already, expect to replace all suspension rubbers with any car that old, it'll be worth it though because it'll drive so much better. On mopars not many people want to do the lower control arm bushing because of the effort involved but that's probably the most significant one.
>>28837993B Body Cornet is awesome and still cheap considering other B Bodies.
I did this recently but a horrible condition shitboxthis is after seeing my friend with his vw type 3 fail to replace a fucked auto transmission for years still ongoing due to parts costs and availability issues.went mopar because they reuse everything across all their line due to cheap bastards
>>28837993A Ford. GM is unaffordable and Chrysler is simultaneously unaffordable and not good.
>>28839380lookin sassy brother
>>28838081>Rubber formulation has been completely identical for the last half century
>>28839275That’s not an argument anon. That’s just you being a contrarian retard
>>28837993>Should I buy a golden era American car if I think they're just cool?depending on what state you live it, get a comfy land yacht and put a modern efficient engine and tranny in it, lower it, and use it as a cruiser.
>>28841232or just buy a v6 mustang, camaro, or challenger from the past decade
>>28840997>rubber advancements means my car will last forever and ever!You're an idiot.
Im also gonna add on top of needing constant unending repair because its a 60+ year old car, these old american cars absolutely guzzle fuel and your wallet will absolutely feel it driving something that gets 12mpg
>>288412496cyl variants exist. Despite people sperging about GOTTA HAVE V8 they’re pretty good driving cars. Especially if you’re without power steering, you lose a lot of weight over the front axle so you have less effort to steer.>t. own a v8 65 Mustang, have driven a few 6cyl 65 MustangsThey’re slower sure but they’re a treat to drive
>>28841249Well just put a diesel truck engine in one of the land barges and convert it to run off McDonald's® it's easy, it's green, it's uhh probably good for most DMV's.
>>28838057>cars only lasting 18 months is a good thing, actually
>>28841232Why the fuck would you lower a luxury car, when the whole point is that the tall, soft suspension absorbs shock, while also making it comfortable to enter and exit?
>>28838019I can’t wait for the price crash when the fucking boomers finally die off>>28838338Nader was a lying Jew and Chevy should have sued him for defamation
>>28837993None are affordable. Not the cool ones at least.>>28843222>I can’t wait for the price crash when the fucking boomers finally die offYou're living in a fantasy world if you think the boomers slowly dying off is going to make muscle cars and shit affordable. That only happens if there's no demand when they're gone, and news flash, there's a lot of demand for them with gen X, millennials, etc. Everyone likes them. They're not going to suddenly crater in value.
>>28843248It’s already happening, prices are down
>>28837993Not if you have to ask the question.
>>28843256Prices of all collectible cars are down, not just boomer cars. JDMs are down, even some exotics. That's because the economy is weak, not because Gen X are the next Boomers. Trust me, you're hoping for a boomer miracle day of the pillow that is not happening.
You can get a 64-65 Falcon in decent condition for maybe 20k. It’s what I plan on doing this summer. You could pick up a Ford Model A for around 15k if you wanna grandpamax
>>28843256All classic prices are down not just old americana. Example: E30 M3 prices.
>>28843269Example 2, ferrari 348 prices. Collector demand is softening in general. The only cars that continue to rise in price are outliers such as ultra low miles examples, and cars that are just becoming available and still have excess demand because of the 25 year rule, such as R34 GTRs.
>>28843260>>28843269>>28843275It’s because of the great boomersaur die off
>>28843280In what world do you think that boomers are the primary driver of value of late 80s/early 90s cars? Those are Gen X and early Millenial. Get out some time and go to a cars and coffee. The boomers own stuff like '50s chevies and caddies, '60s and '70s muscle, older stuff. The youngest boomers are now 62. Most high dollar '80s and '90s cars are owned by dudes in their 40s and 50s. I own mid value '80s and '90s cars. Some late '80s BMWs, a '94 RX7, I'm 36.
I'd like to have a Newport or New Yorker
>>28841615Kids walked or rode their bikes to school and to the park after achool. They didn't have mom driving them everywhere.Dad drove 10 miles to the office or shop for work.The family sedan did 10k miles a year.
>>28837993>Which ones are good and affordable?none and none
>>28843248>>28843260Saw a decent take on it a while back from an old guy comparing it to the prices of pre-boomer stuff (model Ts etc you know the stuff).Price fall off is real but at the same time, parts get more and more scarce and things start getting parted out that wouldnt have been previously.And the best of the best stuff keeps its value.
>>28845992Prewar cars lack the widespread appeal of the type of cars OP is talking about, and aside from extremely rare and special models were never that expensive. Model Ts and such have always been fairly cheap, the pre war cars that are valuable are things like Duesenbergs, Cord 812, Chrysler Airstream. Every muscle and pony car from the 60s and 70s is widely sought after by basically everyone of driving age and are holding their value far better than would be true if the boomers dying off were going to crash the market.
>>28846086>Every muscle and pony car from the 60s and 70s is widely sought after by basically everyone of driving agei wonder if this is just because of popular culture, or because they look really fucking good, especially compared to everything post-2005-10. makes me wonder how popular a new model would be if the manufacturer just made it look like it came straight out of the 60s-70s while still somehow being able to meet modern crash and safety requirements.no retro styling like the pt cruiser or plymouth prowler - just looks like it got plucked straight from the 60s-70s to now via a time machine.drivetrain options would be another can of worms.
>>28838120The thing about the Corvair was it's handling style and rear engine placement would have been quite unfamiliar for the target audience it was aiming for (average families, it was competing with the Plymouth Valiant). Therefore those same kinds of drivers wouldn't be familiar with the quirks of that car which are compounded by the fact it was the 1960s. Then you got to think how it compares to other RR cars of the time, which were: 1. The Beetle. Which was alot slower than the Corvair and thus wasn't capable of running into the issues the Corvair had. 2. The Porsche 356. Which was about the same power of the Corvair but was more of a drivers car, and thus it's owners tended to be more aware of the pitfalls of the RR layout and could handle them if it went out line. So then you have the Corvair which is faster than a beetle but not as sports as the 356, being given to just average people who might have driven a beetle before but not the 356. So it turning out the way it did isn't surprising.And this is something we still see to this day, when novice drivers find their way into something they probably aren't ready to handle. Chevy just screwed up by advertising it to general people. That said the later ones fixed most of the issues and it's become quite the choice for custom hot rodding in a rear engine car.
>>28846147>thus it's owners tended to be more aware of the pitfalls of the RR layout and could handle them if it went out line.kek people crashed the shit out of 356s, they definitely were not generally aware of how it handled.
>>28846086You're kinda right here i think classics like bullitt, vanishing point really help too.but there are timeless designs, fiat 500 for example that isnt even boomer material at least in USA. Then there's boomerslop. Esp the shitty ugly mods they do that you see all the time in car shows here.
>>28846122I just posted about fiat 500 above then read u making similar pointyeah the 60s and 70s american industry was producing a LOT of truly timeless designs. Growing up associating murikkkan muscle with car shows and cringe boomers i had to actually distance myself from that to even see it, but jfc, some of that stuffs on par with the accepted high end european classics of the era.Not all of it however boomerslop is a serious concern but then again when prices collapse on it, it will be because nobody none of us in the entire thread want it
>>28846173Yeah, popular mid century cars were featured extensively in movies and TV and that drives the values up because everyone sees them as cool. Even in modern shows and movies, mid century classics like muscle cars are frequently used for cool characters. Pic related.
>>28843876kids got their license the day they turned 16, the modern phenomenon of 26 year olds too scared to drive and relying on their parents to take them places was utterly alien.
>>28846561>too scared to driveI thought it was because cars were expensive?
