>mwf in Germany you can get the new Twingo for €49 a month
>>28843346Taxes rises are coming
>>2884334613k Euro for a new car is pretty good deal.
>>28843346Merci Twingo
>>28843346nobody on "lower income" buys a new car. No family buys a twingo.
>>28843366Yeah because they've never been this cheap. If you can charge at home, this is basically the cheapest way to own a car.
>>28843346The "We can't afford to keep these on our lots" price
>>28843382Guess who don't have a garage, solar, and a home charger?Poorfags.
I have 3 different chargers within 4 minutes of walking. 260km charge should roughly last me a month.I only make 2 longer trips per year.Should I?
>>28843428I don't know why poors who dont have a house even consider electric vehicles.
>>28843428Yes but I'd suggest getting an EV with 400km WLTP range. The Hyundai Inster has alright real world range and is also cheap as fuck.
>>28843346I'd rather flush my money down the toilet.Should have done them a favor and continued the bombings.
>>28843505>InsterIt's fucking ugly.
>>28843356yeah but the catch is you have to live in germany
I'd buy that for that price
>>28843346It's like a modern Yugo with a side dish of rice... that this has to have a build cost of about 3k.
>>28843346>Dacia spring sells for like 10k in Europe.>Dacia introduce it to Ireland - same currency.>Irish govt taxes bring the car to 20k>Dacia sells three of them before throwing their hands up and pulling the spring out.Kek I love Ireland. The Twingo will definitely be about 25k here.
>>28843366>time to buy that $70k truck
>>28843560Yeah the Dacia Spring is a china golf cart with a Romanian bodykit. Look it up, they're horrible. At least the Twingo is a coherent alright e-car with heritage and looks fun.
>>28843569>e-car with heritage
>>28843576Either pretty good trohl or retarded. Either way, 7/10
>>28843633What
>>28843346>20000km leasewhat does this mean
>>28843560Dacia Spring with rebate and max EV subs costs 6k new in germany
>>28843634Twingo has been around for 33 years and has only now turned into an e-car. It's a Twingo in almost every way and just swapping out the weak ass 4pot for an emotor won't change that
>>28843659>It's a Twingo in almost every wayYou are so fucking retarded it's insane. I guess the nuCapri also is a "car with heritage" because it shares a badge with the real Capri? This dumb fucking skinwalker of a Twingo only shares it's name and some superficial details with the original. Even the front headlights are just member berries because the actual headlight is the thin bottom part and the arc is just a gay LED strip. I hope you at least get paid to be this retarded on the internet.
>>28843346didn't they have subsidys for diesel cars years ago and then 5 to 10 years later you got the ooopsie, your car is banned because of pollution message, go buy another one. Just feels like the same thing happening again.
Damn it's so cute
>>28843741Except the Twingo always was a dinky shitbox, and that's what the new one is as well. Whereas the OG Crapi was a pseudo-sporty rustbucket, while the new one is a Ford-badged VW iD.5.
>>28843382no the cheapest way is getting a used one. 14k gets you a pretty good VW Passat or something like that which would be way more useful for a family as well.
>>28843969That also applies to electric cars. In fact it applies even more to electric cars, since their resale value is (proportionally) lower. You can find pretty good deals on relatively new 2nd hand electrics.
i wouldnt buy one of these even if you threatened to cut off my left ballsack
So you're telling me I can just buy a brand new Twingo in Germany and put it in a shipping container to ship halfway across the world?I like it
>>28843951This.The Twingo has always been a car for middle aged single women. But OK, everything has it's target demographics.Electric R5 is the nicer car.
>>28843773No, there never were subsidies for diesel cars (except in the minds of politicians) - the tax on diesel was lower (mainly to support truckers and farmers), but if you see this as a subsidy, you also imply that all money belongs to the government.
>>28843647The Twingo has at least a full-blown (11kW 3-phase) AC charger and a DC charging port, the Spring only charges 1-phase AC and DC charging is an extra.
>>28843382>cheapnigga a wallbox is still something like 10k iirc. Nobody that is targeted with this car has that kind of money.
>>28844172WTF?A brick type wallbox is 150,- for a chink one and around 350,- for an OEM one.A decent wall mounted wallbox with some features (timed charging, utilisation of excess energy) is 500,-Provided you have a 16A 3-phase socket in your garage already.
>>28843346>Owning an EV in a country that dismantled its nuclear program and now has electricity costs entering a death spiral.
>>28843382>80% of people don’t own homes>charging prices at fill-up stations are like 1 pound / kWh (more expensive than gasoline)>surely poor people will buy this shitbox EV
>>28844043Unensouled.
>>28844184If people are too retarded to look at prices and get a decent charging card for their area, they really cannot be helped.You can get AC (sometimes even DC) charging for around 45ct/kWh (without any monthly cost) or even cheaper when you do it at certain supermarkets.
>>28844179They have returned to their historical levels since about 3 years ago grandpa.
>>28844190I love how you conveniently ignore that your own chart shows it has gone up 2-3x since 2021 even after falling from its highs.
>>28844194Uhm I wonder what global event could have affected electricity consumption in 2020-2021...
>>28843346Doesn't matter because they have no way to charge it.
>>28843647>6kThe sooner the eurozone collapses the better.Picrel, this is why I don't believe in voting.
>>28844314And it's not a "2026" either, because Dacia pulled the Spring, iirc.Its a 2025 that hasn't been registered yet.
>>28844314Guess your finances collapsed, poorfag.
>>2884431910/10 troll m8, made me reply
>>28844205That's because you're not a knower. There was a flat calm throughout a large part of 2021 in Europe. This meant wind turbines produced jack shit, and electricity prices fucking detonated.
>>28844164In fairness, the newest Spring version charges at 7.2 kW AC, which is the max allowed on a 1-phase residential socket (230 V x 32 A). But yes, DC charging being an option is a bit of a gyp, especially since it's only 40 kW.
>>28844189Aren't there supermarkets which offer charging credits as loyalty points?
>>28844314>Be Eire >Offer ample subsidy ballwashing to megacorps >Be so blatant that you get sued by the Commission for refusing to collect legitimately owed backtaxes >Offer a dick through a gloryhole for the average Seamus You couldn't pay me to move there.
>>28844560I don't know about that, but Lidl/Kaufland offer very competitive prices when using their app.
>>2884455932A single phase is almost nonexistent and many local suppliers probably don't allow asymmetric loads that high, 16A 3 phase is relatively common, many people already have it in their garage to run circular saws or welding machines.
>>28844596>europoors>having garages with circular saws or welding machines
>>28844600Why not, faggot?
>>28844601Because a personal garage is a luxury in yurop. Most poors, you know, the Spring and Twingo's intended target market, live in apartments or small attached houses.
>>28844612Most people who don't live in inner cities have garages like that.In the cities not so much, but that's the same in Burgerland.
>>28843366pensioners do
>>28843969>paying 14k for a used passatabsolutely deranged behavior
>>28844596>32A single phase is almost nonexistent and many local suppliers probably don't allow asymmetric loads that high, True, you need a completely separate line from the main breaker. Though it's easier if you have solar panels. >16A 3 phase is relatively common Yes, especially since 11 kW is the base standard for AC charging (22 kW used to be the standard, but they dialed it down for ease of implementation).
>>28844566Kek, I remember a thread years ago where an anon worked out that Irish "petrol" cost the equivalent of US $ 12 per gallon when burgers were crying about "gas" approaching five dollars. It's certainly true that nobody hates the people more than the people they vote for but Ireland's upper levels hold a particularly intense level of contempt for the average Seamus. The Levels of taxation and outright government sponsored exploitation over there is insane. On top of which, healthcare literally does not exist anymore, nor does housing.
>>28843366I have a wife and two kids and currently daily a Twingo. Not poor-- I work for a hedge fund-- I just like it. I'll probably buy the new EV Twingo with next year's bonus.
>>28843346thats pretty good like it makes it no excuse to have no car we should have some lil box like this in america so everyone has the opportunity and cant whine
>>28844733Your cars are already dirt cheap Amerifat. Niggers driving around with luxury EVs as if they were bus rides.
>>28844314>65hp>20kgrim
>>28844596>16A 3 phase is relatively common, many people already have it in their garage to run circular saws or welding machines.Not only that, a lot of people have 16A triple phase in the kitchen these days, so an outlet in the garage is a given>>28844600>>europoors>>having garages with circular saws or welding machinesKek, nigga do you think everyone in Yurup lives in a flat?
