got what i voted for again award
>>28843802I'm not against making cleaner running cars.It's just the shit they came up with hurts the early more than it helps.There has to be a way to reduce emissions without being retarded about it
Now roll back all auto emissions regulations to 1962, and nuke the CARB. California can pound sand.
>that Obama Switch lmao republicucks might be useless in conserving american identity but i love it when they say shit like this
>>28843807drive a 90s civic with a fresh o2 sensorvery good fuel economy
>>28843802Not that I don't like it, but I'm so tired of people like this. They're an idiot, they're taking advantage of other mean spirited idiots and we just smear shit all over ourselves to "own the libs". God help this gay fucking Earth, because were In charge, we would have another evolutionary bottleneck event with the billions that must die for my petty frustrations.
>>28843967no one's doing anything to 'own the libs'. this this common sense deregulation and will provide a huge boost to the american auto industry helping all americans.
but we are still getting kill switches in every car, thanks obama
It would be so funny if they kept doing the emissions rollbacks but retain the chicken tax, 25 year import rule an kei car bans because freedoms
>>28843989didn't they prove that it made basically no difference to starter motor lifespan? so how is this a 'huge boost'? it's a stupid feature that saves a negligible amount on fuel mileage, and it is an inconvenience or an annoyance, but it's hardly a 'huge boost' or a 'big win.'
>>28843802Still getting that MADD cam though
>>28843807You can only reduce emissions so much before you start losing value in other areas to make up for it.IE less reliable / more expensive engines with lower lifespans, no pop up headlights, suck my cock, rtc.
>>28844288Typically the starters for vehicles with the feature have to be made more robust which makes them more expensive. Also in most vehicles that have this feature, they have to run AGM batteries which are far more expensive than standard car batteries. So getting rid of this feature means much less expensive replacement parts.
>>28844288Fuck you its a huge annoyance.Also the greatest acceleration of wear occurs on start for every part. Timing system, any lubricated surface, etc.Not to mention its unsafe you nanny state piece of shit.
>>28844288They replaced alternators and starters with integrated starter generators. I'm guessing ISGs are more expensive so this mean more shekels for auto makers.
>>28843802Instead you have to pledge allegiance to Israel in order to start your car
>>28843807There’s no real reason why all new cars shouldn’t be hybrids. The toyota E-CVT is probably the most robust powertrain ever devised.
>>28843807auto stop/start is good on hybrids that can both crank the engine in half a turn and start without it in the first placebut idiots tried adapting it to regular starters and then everyone hated themthere's no reason to idle the engine on a red longer than 5 seconds
>>28843802I don't see manufacturers taking it away just because he said so. He isn't going to be able to roll back emissions, so this isn't going to change anything. It's just virtue-signaling.
>>28843807>There has to be a way to reduce emissions without being retarded about itthe real way to reduce emissions is to get rid of the tens of of millions of parasitic brown people that have flooded our country.
>>28844444quints confirms
>>28844444>The toyota E-CVTBLOCKS your path.
>>28844564why aren't rear wheel skirts more common? surely they could be engineered to be easily removable and not be an annoyance during maintenance
Oh boy! Now you can trade your financed cuckbox in for a new, more expensive one with more surveillance in a year because it doesn't have auto shut off.
>believing we can control the climateIf anything we need cars that produce more emissions.
>>28844681>Not believing in basic chemistry because the party line thinks life is a joke.
>>28844288It’s the cylinder deactivation that causes the most problems. Auto stop start just makes the driving experience lurchier and less responsive.
>>28843807Targeting industrial emissions, banning Mazut burning ships from our ports, electrifying our freight railways, and shuttering coal and oil power plants for solar will do more for the air in America than total fleet electric conversion, never mind bandaid bullshit like cylinder deactivation or auto stop start.>How will we ever pay for it?Take away fossil fuel subsidies and use that money, it’s more than enough.
>>28844665>why aren't rear wheel skirts more common?Great question.I agree that a dead-simple to remove, but also secure attachment / locking mechanism could have been designed.My guess is that Marketing went to the board rooms with "data" suggesting that many people didn't like the look (probably clueless women).
>>28844722gas is taxed, not subsidized. unless you're talking about the home heating fuel subsidies for the poor.
>>28844722>and shuttering coal and oil power plants for solar will do more for the air in America thanDid you see the directive two days ago? Picrel.https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2026/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-strengthens-united-states-national-defense-with-americas-beautiful-clean-coal-power-generation-fleet/>Beautiful, clean coalYou can't make this shit up.
>>28844730Gas is taxed, refining and extraction is subsidized, and the subsidies are bigger than the tax revenue.
>>28844730In addition to direct subsidies, the government picking up the tab on the damage done by by the fossil fuels industry costs the US tax payer about $3/gallon. Sure, we also charge the US taxpayer between 18.4 and 24.4¢ of road tax per gallon of fuel they buy (federally, state road tax can add to it), but none of that costs the oil companies anything either.
no car worth a fuck has computers outside of the ecu.
>>28843802I like my Obama switch. If I keep it on my MPGs can hit 25-26 city which is pretty great for a V8. Long stop lights cost you a few mpgs
>>28844782>>28844925i've seen the lefty math on this. the 'subsidies' include things like 'the cost of the wars we fight for oil'. no one has ever actually been able to show an actual real life government subsidy on the books that helped pay for the gas going into my gas tank, and you won't either because they don't exist.
>>28843802How can my President be this based? It's legitimately unbelievable.
>>28843813In the works.
>>28843959I drive a BMW and a Buick with o2 sensors, they don't even get 20 mpg.What kind of HP are you making?
>>28843989Nobody will buy shitty American cars because Americans are too stupid to engineer a good product
>>28844280>chicken taxHomosexuals say tarriffs don't work.
>>28845032ok retardhttps://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/sep/09/fossil-fuels-subisidies-study
>>28844444Checked, and I took a Prius cab the other night with 400,000 on it. They are legit good cars.
>>28844527>He isn't going to be able to roll back emissionsLol.He is the boss, idiot, he will do exactly that.
>>28845057America doesn't sell cars in other countries because you don't have any money.Also, Ching Chong Motor Company is going to put your auto industry out of business, you gutless worm.
>>28843807>There has to be a way to reduce emissions without being retarded about itElectric or natural gas. Radical embrace of aerodynamics. A massive expansion of national passenger rail.
>>28844665>>28844726some years back renault did this concept for a more aerodynamic truck and had these wheel covers
>>28844444I always marvel at how many 2nd-generation Priuses are still on the road. Also, quints.
>>28845057we built the greatest cars all the way up untill we started selling retro-models in the 2000s and somehow we never fucking recovered.some of our late cars are just fucking better than anything euros/nips ever built or ever will build again.
>>28844782>and the subsidies are bigger than the tax revenueyeah maybe if you're in yurope
please Mr Trump get rid of the DEFI will take back everything I said about you
>>28844356That's on cold starts you moron. The car is already at optimal temp. Very little chance of additional wear.
>>28844540I love this argument anon. Do you know why they're here in the first place?
>>28844353so surely cars will get cheaper right?manufactures SURELY wont charge the same price even though the cars are made of cheaper parts, right?
>>28845233because they divide societies and make them easier for jews to conquer while simultaneously reducing white birth rates and decreasing the cost of labor for jewish billionaires?
>>28843967the Left have been doing this spiteful shit for 50 years at this point. forgive people for wanting payback.
>>28843813>the fourth largest economy on the planet can pound sandAnd this is why you don't run a business
>>28844769Im so tired of this geriatric retard making everything worse
>>28845312you are more than welcome to leave at any time
>>28843802Based Donald Trump, I love this guy. Makes trannies seethe and pollutes the environment all in one.
>>28845233I do.
>>28844444DigitsHybrids are probably our best option for now.Electric at low speed in the city.ICE at high speed in the country.Give them a properly spaced gearbox so they rev lower while maintaining highspeeds using less fuel and on super flat areas the electric motor can maintain the cruise speed.
>>28844444With a battery that doesn't like to explode I can get behind this.
>>28844769>retard who thinks 'coal plant' is some 19th century monstrosity pumping out clouds of black smoke
>>28845056I specifically said Fresh o2 sensor not full of 150k miles of exhaust soot
>>28845354This is the only reason I can think of as to why hybrids are still more to insure than regular internal combustion.
>>28845059>That figure, calculated by the environmental campaign group Oil Change Internationallol is this you
>>28845682>tens of thousandsSo 0.001% of people get brainwashed by communist propaganda and we have to give up everything beautiful in the world because it hurts some rabid idiot's feelings.
>>28846409>we have to give up everything beautiful in the world because it hurts some rabid idiot's feelings.Pray tell, what is your opinion on heroin?
>>28843802wtf is the Obama Switch and who taught trump to sleep standing up?
>>28845061>He is the boss, idiotSure... champ.
>>28846411Go to any hospital in the world and you can find fentanyl in the medicine cabinet
>>28846411Heroin? It just has the potential to kill you if you can't into math gud. But so does water. It's a natural antidepressant and is not hurting anyone else.Pollution? It hurts everyone on the planet.If one is going to argue morals of banning things, they'd better be ready to argue morals.
>>28846421Okay? What's your point? Nobody wants fent other than the people selling it. It's not euphoric at all so ppl chase more of it and die.If you think it's okay to run a V8 truck catless, I think it's okay to do heroin every day. Don't get me wrong, I run catless, I just see hypocrisy and point it out, because you probably thing junkies are worthless trash but morally you're advocating for worse things.
>>28846423CO2 isn't pollution, retard.
>>28846425How is it my problem? If it makes them happy and doesn't hurt anyone who am I to judge.
>>28846426Yes it is, retard. And CO2 isn't the only pollutant. I am aware of the pollution I cause.Your argument was that regulating beautiful things is "communism," but what about heroin? I know nothing more beautiful on this earth. Why is that illegal? Hmmm? Any explanation you give will also be a reason that burning fossil fuels should be illegal.
>>28846432Fuck off commieGo regulate your waist size
>>28846434>Me wanting personal freedoms is "communist"Gott-damm you're brainwashed.
>>28846426lmao
>>28843802>obama switchobongo really makes this guy seethe huh
>>28846432no it isn't retard, epa says it's fine (trust the experts).
>>2884466580 years ago wheel skirts were easy to remove and locked securely without tools, it was two hooks and a lever.Cars don't have them now because "people" think they look stodgy and old fashioned.
>>28843802>got what i voted for again awardbased retard satisficed with little scraps
How many /pol/-made Trump threads do we need?
>>28846912they revised the jobs number and its the largest drop in 20 years, over a million, so, as many as it takes to cover that up, really
>>28846432>People should have to go back to the 1800s so the planet suffers lessThe planet should suffer more so that we can stay in the modern age. Fuck the planet, we can leave and get another as soon as we're done deleting Russia and China from the world stage.>But its something something birthrightThat's what we said before you moved a hundred million browns here too. You had the right to fuck up demographics, we have the right to fuck up the planet. Fair is fair.>But it'll kill -Mostly browns and chinks. They deserve what they get.
>>28845204Nope, any stop start on any lubricated surfaces, go look at a stribeck curve.
>>28847598>noo not the heckin foreign bornerinos!
>>28847649There are only 133 mil employed people in a country of 340 mil people? Skepticism intensifies.What, specifically, are those charts even purported to show?
>>28847649hey why did you stop at september? you know they updated this 4 days ago, right? here, ill update your chart from september where you left of-oh no.oh nononononononononono
