I feel like this is the new undercover JDM hotness and will be held as a final hurrah to affordable sporty rwd coupes even if and when Nissan eventually goes broke for good.
Honda will go broke before Nissan, honestly
ugly ass vantage lookalike
>>28844222I used to think so too but much like a lot of the chris bangle era bimmers it grows on you after a while, almost like mould.
>>28844216Black wheels have to go but this is a good car.
>>28844216I hope so, and probably yes. Not that many sold and there's no competition. The supra is a BMW and all the other options are 4 cylinders
>>28844216ZG longnose when
>nismo z is autotragic onlyInto the trash
>>28844300Wrenchlet, poor
>>28844307
>>28844216Its the "new car but old" /o/ claims they want but then shit on it for being an old car with a new body/engine. It will almost certainly attain collector/classic status in the future
>future classic
>>28844300you can get it in manual now
>>28844219It's impossible for Honda to go broke, worst case is they stop selling cars. They still make the most engines out of any manufacturer
>>28844216Now that they have fixed the front end, yes this will be a classic.You should have a convertible though
>>28844216Debating this vs a 11 GT500 right now. Only make 50k/yr so it'd be a max budget purchase. Very tempting though.
>>28844349If you're gonna financially flog yourself, you better do it for a v8
when the nismo comes in manual in '27, yes, this will be a future classic a la ND miata, sixth gen camaro SS, etc.it's a very good all rounder but it's only real weakness is that it's slower than its competition, but that only matters to benchracers and the .001% of drivers actually trying to set lap times
>>28844350>Flog yourselfIs it really that bad though? It's only $500/mo.
>>28844374Plus insurance and maintenance. If you have no other expenses by all means go for it, but most people consider financing a car thats listed at 90% of your annual income to be a bad idea
>>28844374How many months lmao
>>2884438284?>>28844381I'm at $1500/mo mortgage, $900mo in food, probably $300mo in cards, $500mo in other expenses.I think it's affordable tbqhwy.
>>28844394Sounds goofy as fuck
>>28844396Huh? Math doesn't lie. I have enough to afford it. It would definitely stretch my budget though.
>>28844401You'd have enough to afford it until literally any emergency or even basic maintenance event happens. What will you do when you need to buy a $1500 set of tires for it?
>>28844349Do you live at home or something? I make 160k/yr and cant imagine spending 50k on a car.
>>28844394>$300mo in cards
>>28844401idk where you live but keep in mind your state's equivalent of excise tax may rape you for the first few years if it's based on age and msrp which they usually are. and get an insurance quote before you even think about this for one more second so you can factor that into your total cost because ita likely a lot more than you think.
>>28844216Yes, it has basically everything going for it>looks good>manuel>tried and tested engine >>28844262looks more like bullitt style mustang wheels
>the same v6 theyve been updating since the 80s with two fiat 500 turbos strappedclassic nigsan pos
>>28844219Honda will be in a worse position due to going hard into EV's without having EV batteries. Nissan was able to weather the storm due to already having EV tech and still being a cheaper option than Toyota.
>>28844421>What will you do when you need to buy a $1500 set of tires for it?Put it on a CC and pay it off when I get my tax refund. Why?>>28844433I literally posted my mortgage payment. I suspect you're drowning in debt if you make $160k/yr and can't swing a Nissan OR you're getting raped in taxes because you haven't found a wet hole to tolerate you yet.>>28844442That's not even bad.>>28844443True. Insurance RN is only $120ish/mo for my truck rn.
>>28844535what kind of cards are you spending $300 a month on? pokemon? magic?
>>2884439484 is unreasonably long, the longest you should ever consider is 60. At 60 months you pay ~20% of the value of the vehicle in interest, while 84 puts you at like ~50% with current interest rates
>>28844216Z is not affordable lol, you paying more than 60k OTD. Used doesn't count.
>>28844216Too expensive
>>28844494What do you honestly drive?
>>28844678Camaro, hondaghini accord and a shitbox vr6
>>28844678It wouldn't matter to you as you would pick at something anyways. I can post McLaren F1 with bread on hood and your post number and you would still be a not picking bastard. So no.
>>28844216fuck that looks good. if they deliver that i'd consider buying one.
>>28844216nah
>>28844312I'm just saying, who the fuck even buys the rice pkg when your money can go further with aftermarket parts for this tried and true platform. Like they have turbo kits, ems, injectors everything for these cars but you drop an extra 20k for a stock engine with a body kit. You're a ricer. Also if you bitch about the base model not having a lsd you are outing yourself as a wrenchlet. Stick to the YouTube comments section of those gay ass doug demuro videos you little quirks and features led loving faggot
i was hoping that the dealer markup shit would have subsided and that they would be atleast as plentiful as gr86/variants.but they're not.so my silly gay dream of v8 swapping one is dead in the water.
>>28844535>Put it on a CC and pay it off when I get my tax refund.You can't afford it. Sort your finances out first bro.
>>28844654Money doubles every 7 years though so $40k today is $80+k by the end of the loan.
>>28844845Because of a fantasy that won't happen where I suddenly have to eat $1500 on a warrantied car?The tires aren't even $1500 on a sport. They've got skinny tires tbhwy. Id probably drop $3k on a CC for wheels tires immediately anyway and have stocks for backup.
>>28844329it looks worse than it is. 50%of the hoses pictured is for the twin intercoolers
>>28844216New cars will never be collectible, the driving factor is looks and everything looks like shit now.
Saw one of these on the highway today. Looked really cool. it was orange.
>>28844902because if you don't have $1500 in savings/cash on hand, you have no business going into a 50k car loan my man.Do you buy your furniture from Aaarons per chance? Honest question.
>>28844792what color is your 400z
>>28844894You fight inflation by investing, not by taking on debt. You need to spend 12 months on /biz/ before taking out that loan
>>28845081Except a new Z will be $80k (or more) making it identical to me buying the car right now.>>28845017I could buy it cash rn. Why would I when I've had weekend swings larger than an entire year of payments on this purchase? The question wasn't could you sell everything and raise $1500 it's what would I do. I'd put it on cc and pay it off over 12 months for a convenience charge of $2-300. Woah it's fucking nothing.Some of y'all literally don't have a job. Even my mcjob allows me to do this.
>>28845017Also fuck Aaron's. Fuckers called me on a loan that wasn't even mine threatening me everyday 6 for 3 years until I had an attorney contact them and reported them to the BBB. Fuck em.
>>28845089Reading shit like this makes the prospect of a complete market crash so, so arrousing; seeing arrogant cunty faggots who gloat about finessing credit cards or otherwise arbitraging debt GETTING ABSOLUTELY FUCKING WRECKED would be amazing.(i stop short of wishing for it because if would of course destroy tons of working class whites)
>>28845127Uh huh. I've been through 3 once in a lifetime crashes during my life as a moomer and I'm starting to think it's a big nothing burger of certain people taking advantage of a 7 year buying opportunity their faith just happens to talk about. Weird af coincidence right? Keep your head in the sand though.
>>28845089First of all, the new Z is going to be 50k in 7 years, second of all your income is not going to double in 7 years in your same job. It's just a car man, there are way better things to spend money on
don’t bother. get the superior Elantra N.
>>28845262The fuck is an Elantra?
>>28845081>trying to beat inflation with index funds and shityou pretty much have to gamble on longshot options plays or get lucky with stocks when a disruptive tech hits. the odds are stacked against you. just do whatever, enjoy life as well as you can, go out with a smile
>>28845364car with a dent in the side
>>28845425index funds easily beat inflation
>>28845564Lol if you believe it's 2% we're not even in the same league financially.>>28845259No it won't it's $50k rn. Secondly, I won't be at the same job. I'll be 40 something with a PhD.Let's say my job DOES stay the same and the base model goes up $10k in seven years. Ok cool using your math I should buy the car rn because id be paying $60k over the loan vs $75k making the car still more expensive after the payment period given the same job and equivalent purchasing power.Lmao your own thought process btfo your argument. Dave Ramsey is a hack liar btw. You aren't beating inflation with a 401k.
>>28845574Just buy your car you yappy faggot
>>28845577Mad I used your math to prove you didn't know what you were talking about? I didn't even bring up sales tax on a more expensive vehicle which would bump it up another few grand either lmao.
>>28845579Im nta you just sound fucking insufferableBuy the fucking car if you want it
>>28845574you can easily get 5% returns with index funds
if you have to justify your car purchase by minmaxxing your index fund yields and making sure you have good resale value, then you're not a car enthusiast. Just buy your appliance Prius and GTFO. This board isn't for you.
>>28845812this is a profoundly dumb post.
>>28845818just hire an uber. you biz fags should only enjoy cars from afar.
>>28845089unironically don't dump all your cash into a car right before hyperinflation hits and everyone loses their houses, cars, etc. due to debt & job losses. DO buy your dream car, but figure out how to make more money. $50k/year is pathetic.
>>28844657>Used doesn't count.Why not? Nismos can be found in the mid 40s with a few thousands miles. Performance models can be found in the mid 30s with a few thousand miles.
>>28844494>since the 80sdumbass werenchlet
>>28844216Will it be a future hot item yes? Is it a last hurrah? No.We know that the MR2 and Celica are being made which will likely be the real last hurrah for that category. Also the Toyota and Mazda collab for w.e. they're making.And I don't think Subaru is exactly going to eat shit and die with the Toyota divorce.
Dumb question, but any reason to get a V8 vantage over one of these (other than better sound / interior)?>$30k for a manual 400Z with 200 miles>$40k for a manual V8 Vantage (1st gen) with 10,000 miles.Other than interior quality and v6 + turbo vs v8, they seem very similar in terms of performance/weight. Aston looks better, Z is newer & cheaper.
>>28847447I think aston martins are fucking cool, so get the aston
>>28847447The Aston is actually a nice car, not a commuter box rental spec jap trap with a plastic engine. Choice is pretty obvious to me.
>>28847491yeah, I agree and my heart instantly said "get the Aston", but my brain was giving me bad ideas, like "hey, the new Z is cheaper and just as good, AND it'll come with a warranty!"
>>28844216Its a worse mustang in every way
>>28847803it's smaller and lighter, more fuel efficient, cheaper.
>>28847865Its 127lb lighter, 80hp less and actually worse fuel economy, over the last 7000km my mustang got 9.2l/100km the z is listed at 10.8 for a manual.
>>28847870lying nigger.2026 manual mustang makes 345.0kW (462hp)kerb weight 1809kgFuel Consumption Combined‡13.6L/100kmFuel Consumption Highway‡9.9L/100kmFuel Consumption City‡20.0L/100km2026 performance manual Z 298kw (400hp), kerb weight of exactly 1600kg.Fuel Consumption Combined‡10.8L/100kmFuel Consumption Highway‡8.3L/100kmFuel Consumption City‡14.9L/100kmI don't care what "your" mustang's fuel efficiency is.