>bring back old favorite>it suckswhy does Honda keep doing this?
They’re popular in Japan. How does it suck.
>>28848658>hybrid>simulated transmission>way the fuck overpricedFor what Honda wants for this wrong wheel drive glorified Prius you could get a base model with twice the power, a manual, and RWD. Add in the dealer markups and you could go even further upmarket.
>>28848677None of those things are negatives to the Japanese who actually like fuel efficient cars and don’t want manual anything. It can’t be overpriced if they’re buying it in droves. The car is actually a success. It just triggers the western weebs that Honda isn’t marketing towards to begin with.
Honda hasnt made anything of value since the early 00sIt is foolish to think that will change
>>28848658>>28848685It's probably much cheaper in japan than elsewhere. I went to the configurator on Toyota's JP site for a laugh once and I could spec up a fully loaded Yaris (non-GR) for about what you'd pay for a standard one here in bongland. Likewise base spec GR86s run something like £15k over there before taxes which is just bonkers.
>>28848686Pretty sure the nsx was the benchmark for an entire new segment of hybrid sports cars.
>>28848685The japanese are soulless gooks, wrenchlet ricer
>>28848689Looked it up out of curiosity. It's £34k/$40k in japan. I don't know what it runs for in the states but here it's £41k starting.
I was interested when I thought it was an EV, why is it a hybrid, whats the point? The actual car is very nice, its a type R civic coupe, that's probably where most of the expense is. Can you squeeze nothing more out of this power plant?
>>28848685If that's all they're aiming for, why are they selling it here?
>>28848713so you're not range cucked?
>>28848694lollmao even
I genuinely do not get the praise for this car's looks. It doesn't look a thing like any of the previous Preludes, and on top of that it just looks hideous and blobby. No lines whatsoever, no flow, no rhyme or reason behind it. Just terrible.
>>28848648It sounds like a good car, just overpriced. It's a hybrid Civic with a bit more rizz and less practicality for an extra 10k. Not something I would get, but you could do worse.
>>28848719I wouldn't buy this for anything that required range, just a big RC toy car. The actual car seems really good, I think maybe too good for the power that it puts down. You don't need giant brembos for a car like this, or the suspension setup it has.
>>28848737Elite suspension and brakes (for the price point) on a car that goes 0-60 in 7 seconds. WTF is Honda doing...
>>288487006M JPY is more like $60k for japanese people's salaries, it's just their exchange rate sucks.
>>28848750Its harder to describe than even just that, as their cost of living for an equivalent standard in the US is significantly lower. As a percentage of their salary, rents are nothing compared to what the average American pays. Also goes for food and clothing and other necessities. But then we also have to factor in additional costs for them to own and maintain a vehicle. I don't have a good answer either I'm just adding to the confusion. >>28848745The frame has a tunnel for a driveshaft according to the beautiful tranny channel, so maybe they have more ideas in store.
>>28848648Because regulations, the H22 prelude was a 7500 rpm, oil burning motherfucker, you cannot make that now.
>>28848658>They’re popular in Japan
>>28848648Honda seems irrelevant only time you see then is a civic type r or a 10+ year old accord.
>>28848648>why does Honda keep doing this?the engineers that knew how to do this stuff properly retired a decade ago
>>28848731>It's a hybrid Civic with a bit more rizz and less practicality for an extra 10kAnd who wants that? People buying Civics are not going to purchase the less practical, less efficient, less featured car for $10k more. The only way the Prelude would sell is if it were a coupe Type R, but this Prelude is primarily for the Japanese market and apparently the Type R had to be discontinued there thanks to cucked emissions regulations.
>>28848648>why does Honda keep doing this?It's not just Honda, bro. It's all of them.Manufacturers have quite a knack for slapping a nostalgic name on garbage to make a buck.The 80's Chevy Nova which was a rebadged CorollaPontiac Tempest in the late 80's, which was a rebadged Chevy CorsicaPontiac LeMans in the early 90's, which was a rebadged Daewoo shitheapPlymouth Duster in the 90's which was just a variant of the SundanceMercury Cougar in the 2000'sThe stupid looking early 2000's Ford ThunderbirdDodge Dart in the 2010'sFord BroncoToyota SupraPontiac GTO (not actually garbage, but a failure due to poor marketing)I'm sure there are quite a few others I'm not remembering.
The prelude was nothing more than accord coupe with some body trim. The same way everyone bitched about the crz not being some 9k rpm screamer as if the original crx wasn't a civic coupe focused on fuel economy
>>28848694The Nu-SX was an ugly abortion of a car that was slower than the competition when it was new.
>>28848756>>28848750Japan has experienced basically no inflation since the 2000s
>>28849278Nu-Bronco is good thoughbeit (the actual Bronco, not the Bronco Sport which is a reskinned Escape)
>>28849313It had no hybrid competition when it was new and so everyone benchmarked it to make their own. Not that I expect you to have good reading comprehension. The new NSX was an IQ test. You can tell who is low IQ based on how they respond to it.
>>28848648Is it really a Prelude if it doesn’t have RWS?
>drives like a BRZ on mountain roads>rides like a Prius on city/highways>faster than a Civic Si>looks like a porsche>priced and spec'd like a fully loaded accord hybrid and integra>too cheap for country club boomers>too expensive for beaners and weebsThis might just be the perfect car for me.
>>28849371>muh hybrid muh hybrid muh hybridIt was slower than any supercar of the same price range. Fuck your hybrid
>>28849404You’ve confirmed my suspicions that your IQ is low. Please tell me you think the lfa and Yaris gr are good cars. It’ll be ironic.
>>28849407What the fuck does this have to do with a shitbox like the yaris? Take your meds you dumb kike
>>28849410For starters, the exploding Yaris gr and lfa are more expensive and slower than their competition. Kind of like what you’re complaining about.
>>28849396>fwd open diff CVTslop>drives like a brzstopped reading right there, this statement is so retarded it must be bait. were you dropped on your head as a child a lot?
>>28849396>spec'd like a fully loaded accord hybrid and integralol no. It doesn't even have power seats, nor lumbar support or ventilation, no heated back seats, no moon roof, no driver presets, no TPMS that actually works, or the superior radar-based assist system, many of these features even being on the low trims, and yet the Prelude costs $6K more than the most specced out Accord and doesn't even get better MPG.The Accord is in an entirely different class of luxury and practicality from the Prelude. If the Prelude had all this and was actually a coupe Accord it might've actually been an attractive purchase.
>bring back old favorite>it's better than beforewhy does Honda keep doing this?
>>28849447I know, right.
>>28849413>whataboutismYou're a fucking idiot playing word games now. Stop deflecting, the Nu-SX was slower than all supercars in its price range. This is a fact. All of your jewish shuck and jive gish-gallop bullshit doesn't change that. Retard
>>28849520You never answered whether you thought the LFA or Yaris GR was a good car or not. I wonder why.
>>28849540I'm not talking about toyotas you faggot. Especially not ugly little turds like the yaris. Stop dancing around you retarded Nu-SX fanboy.
>>28849545>can’t even answer a simple question
>>28849548>instead of confronting criticism of my favorite car I bring up cars that are irrelevant to the thread to try and derail itFaggot
>>28849551>I hide what cars I like cause I’m a pussy and don’t want to be exposed as a hypocritical retard
>$42k>no manuallol lmao even
>>28849407>>28849413>>28849540>>28849548>>28849556btfod so hard rofl, an hero ricer.
>>28849561>2026>manualUnc, it's time to move on. I know you're American, nobody else in the world gives a shit about manual transmissions. They are outdated now. In America, manual was part of car culture. But over here, it's just how we drove. Now there are better transmissions, so why stick to outdated tech? Nostalgia?
>>28849571So why does Honda still make manual cars?
>>28849577The Civic SI is 100% nostalgia bait. It hasn't even gotten any faster in like 25 years.
>>28849314retard
Saw one irl while driving my >trve lvde. Honestly it wouldn't be so bad but no manual option is a huge dealbreaker, given that nothing sets this prelude apart from Honda's other cars. Preludes always had some cool shit like rear wheel steering or that amazing interior on the 4th gen. I could forgive no manual option if there was some cool innovative feature like awd with rear torque vectoring or some shit.
>>28849556This is a thread about hondas, you stupid faggot. I am not a fan of hondas, and what I'm a fan of is not relevant to this thread. Stop trying to derail it you insufferable faggot. Your precious Nu-SX sucks and always has, and you'll never be able to afford one anyway so quit trying to drag shitty cars nobody wants (yaris) or overpriced cars nobody can afford (LFA) into it.
>>28849581nigger
>>28849577>slower than the prelude>slower than the much cheaper civic hybridYeah, really great car you got there. The Si is for suckers.
>>28848700$42,000 starting for nostalgiabait.
>>28849729This comment chain is about bench racing. You being retarded by your own admission by liking cars that are slower than their competition in s very much relevant to this discussion.
>>28848963Nips are consumerist slop eaters. Its the only reason Nintendo and Honda even exist anymore.
>>28849396>looks like a porscheLooks like a 2 door Prius, literally. For some unknow reason, Honda decided to use the current design language of Toyota and take the front end from the current Prius/Camry/RAV4/CHR, instead of making it similar to 11th gen Accord and Civic.
>>28849396>looks like a porscheIncorrect
>>28849822Ferrari did it first
>>28849428That accord look ugly as shit holy fuck.
>>28849964Yeah, Honda's styling has gone to total shit in recent years. It's no wonder they ditched it and copied Toyota for the Prelude. Only decent looking car they sell.
>>28849376Only a very small percentage of preludes came with RWS. I would not look at that as a metric/benchmark for the name.
>>28849427also it's about 300kg heavier than a BRZ
>>28849407the IFA definitely fucks
>>28848648CAFE norms, we can't have fun cars anymore.
>>28849577The Si is just a cope for people who can't afford the CTR. They don't even sell it or the new Integra in Japan. Anon is right that nobody really cares about MT other than American car autists. Honda even discontinued the superior ILX for the Nutegra because not enough of you retarded faggots were willing to pay for a 200hp NA 8DCT car. Literally the perfect daily driver that retains some sportiness, but now you either have to buy a 1.5T CVT (blech) or the ITS that's just an American-made CTR reskin anyway.
I hate nuHonda so much it’s unreal. Really makes you think how they even managed to come up with the NSX and S2000 on the first place.
>>28848694USG. also, designed by a woman and it shows.
>>28849960And? It's still ugly as shit and doesn't look like a Honda.
>>28850544Incorrect, wheel-gap spic sama. Your Mexican genes have made you fail the IQ test.
Maybe you'll stop asking for that new S2K now.Or will you test the monkey's paw again?
>>28850566>wheel-gap spic samawhat kind of weeb speak is even that?also>Michelle Christensen became the auto industry’s first female to lead the development of a supercar when she directed the 2017 remodel of the iconic Acura NSX
>>28850593Cool misinformation from someone’s personal bio. But that’s not what it says on the car’s actual Wikipedia page. You’re a dumb spic who continues to fail the IQ test.
>>28848921This, cars have to make as much torque as possible at 0 RPM or close to it, a 9000 rpm engine with no balls like the AP1 S2000 would not fly with not only emissions regs, but because people don't want to redline their engine to feel any sort of pull.
>>28849571>>28849577>>28849580>>28849736>>28850523I just put a deposit down on a brand new 2026 White Civic Si. Can't wait to learn manual :3I'm a 39 yo white american male
>>28849404The original NSX wasn't a speed or lap time demon either and cost significantly more than, for example, an LS1 C5.What you got from an NSX was top tier build quality. A vette would be a creaking limp noodle chassis by 75k miles, everything falling apart if you treated it hard. The NSX by that point would be like a factory fresh vette.
>>28850730Based Hondas, my Honda is such a high mileage old motherfucker but it still isn't creaking as long as the rest of the car is maintained.
>>28850744Hondas excel at just being cars. They're not very interesting, but they're cheap to buy, cheap to repair, and most importantly reliable, all while being performant for most uses and having good build quality, they don't feel like a "bottom of the barrel" vehicle. That's more than most people are wanting out of a car.
>>28850748Based 7th gen, you're right though, they're blurring the line between extravagance and practicality like the ad says, it wasn't a lie, the car feels premium, and expensive in a vehicle that isnt very expensive.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-Qikh9UJBQ
>>28850756Sadly my beloved 7th gen is no more, but even modern Hondas carry on the tradition. I've got a Hybrid Civic now and while I dislike the electronic power steering and miss the beautiful sound of the Accord's V6, it's still a very well made and luxurious feeling car for how little I paid for it (barely more the Accord was brand new in 2003, not even accounting for the insane inflation that's occurred since then). I love how elegant and simple it feels, while not compromising on anything.I looked at other brands at the same price point (Toyota, Hyundai) and they just felt so cheap. They felt like I'd expect a cheap car to feel both in ride and build quality.Honda consistently punches above their price point. No it's not as nice as a BMW, Audi, or Porsche, but it costs far less and will cost far less to maintain too.>>28850693Enjoy it, I almost splurged for the Si, but decided to prioritize MPG and easy commuting. In any case the 11th Gen Civic is a nice car, easily one of the best new cars available today.
>>28850774>Honda consistently punches above their price pointSo true, If I was forced to get something, 11th gen Civic 2.0L is it, it's just so nice for what they're asking.
Thanks for niggering up the thread chatgpt
>>28850774>Enjoy it, I almost splurged for the Si, but decided to prioritize MPG and easy commuting. In any case the 11th Gen Civic is a nice car, easily one of the best new cars available today.Thanks! Yeah it's definitely a splurge but just got a lot going on in life where it's like "this is the right car for me at the right time" now or never type deal. I'm married with kids and this is our family car. Not bad for a family car!
>>28850774>Honda consistently punches above their price pointExplain the Prelude then.
>>28849396>faster than a Civic Siit somehow has a slower 0-60 (despite having hybrid motors and electric torque) and a lower top speed. The new prelude is shit, and I would be embarrassed to own one.
>>28850613t. doesn’t understand what a team lead is
>>28850938She is Stunning and Brave.
>>28850938t. idiot who doesn't know how t. works
>>28850938you used the t. in reverselmao
>>28850283A prelude without rws is like a troon without a penis
>>28850977>>28850985cope. you lost, Michelle won.
>>28850935Have a source for the Prelude 0-60 being slower than and Si? And don't source that idiot YouTuber with a prelude who doesn't know how to break launch nor disable T/C and A/C.
>>28849822>>28849960Holy shit
>>28851127Honda's is cuter, that's how they originally won, they looked at the style of other cars and made them cute.
>>28849916
>>288511324th gen Prelude font goes hard
>>28850861It's a midlife crisis car for Japs whose wives won't allow them to buy a real sports car.
>>28848648Egh close enoughwelcome back insight
>>28848750for 6M yen you could buy a much better and nicer car like a crown sport
>>28849310And that's the core issue, there is a disconnect with marketing and corporate within Honda. Marketing finds out people want the prelude/nsx/integra, and Honda corporate gives that exact car. Marketing knows peopple ACTUALLY want what those cars became in the eyes of the car community (integra being track star, prelude being street racer, NSX being cheap supercar) instead of what Honda actually intended them to be (integra being luxury civic, prelude being a tech showcase, NSX being a supercar slayer). Contrast this to the GR86/Brz where Toyota fully understood that when people said they wanted the AE86 they didn't want a slightly more sporty RWD corolla, they wanted a drifto all day sports car, and correctly played into that resulting in a success despite it being completly different to the original car
>>28850938They have “team leads” at Walmart. Imagine actually thinking she had any influence on the car.
>>28851347If only it got the 60+mpg of the insight. 44mpg is garbage for a hybrid.
>>28851378imagine thinking a man came up with the ugly ass piece of shit design
>>28850566>>28850593>take a concept car made 10 years prior>change some grills from mesh to honeycomb or whatever>claim you designed it>we wuz womyn designers and shit>get celebrated because you're a woman
>>28851614Are these not men>>28850566 ?
>>28851633they just pretend. Michelle designed the car after all
>>28851659She designed a car that existed before she was involved at Acura?
>>28850774>>28849571>>28849577>>28849580>>28849736>>28850523Update, I plan forfeit my deposit on the 2026 White Civic Si (though I don't officially need to make that call for a few weeks). I just had trouble sleeping knowing that I'd be eating the depreciation for a brand new car. So I ordered a 2022 Civic Si on CarMax (gray, but it was cheapest). It has 55k miles on it, and I'm just hoping that there's no significant clutch wear when I get it. I'll do a pre-purchase inspection to confirm before officially forfeiting my deposit on the brand new civic si. If the used car is "as good as new with some routine wear on it" then I'll be saving 8k on the OTD price.
>>28848648Ny biggest issue is that almost every new interesting car is above 42k. I cannot afford that. I will buy another motorcycle instead.
>>28848658>FWD
>>28851132>l-look this one close up of this one angle has some similarities that means the whole car looks like a porsche!It looks nothing like a porsche. You could take a closeup of the hood line where it meets the fender and turns upward it looks like this one but that doesn't make the car look like a bmw
>>28848648Honda hasn't made anything worth caring for since 2010it's whatever
>>28852482>Honda is a FWD company. Just buy a Miata.Why do they choose to be second rate on purpose?
>>28852493FWD is cheaper for manufacturers, leaves more space in the cabin, and it's easier for normies to get out of an understeering situation than a RWD oversteering situation.
>>28852500>>28852512I'm not asking for all of their cars to be RWD, but for them to deliberately choose to not even make 1 (one) while the last one they did (stateside) appreciates to prices a new one would cost, proving there's clearly a market for it, then also not bringing the S660 here, is retarded. They're afraid to make anything outside of their comfort zone to their own detriment, low volume sports cars notwithstanding, even. Toyota, Jeep, and Ford are out here printing money selling millions of proper midsize off-roaders (4runner, Land Cruiser, GX, Wrangler, Grand Cherokee, Bronco) and Honda's response is to make a more butch Pilot out of the Passport. Nissan made the same mistake killing the Xterra 7.3 seconds before that segment blew up, too.
>>28851127Fewawi look like car from cyberpunk 2077 while honda like matchbox. They are not the same.
>>28848696You could never be me but trying is very based, remember that brown son
>>28850556>Honda makes grocery getters for normalfags and isn't Porsche or Ferrari.Honda makes better cars than Porsche or Ferrari ever have, see na1 and 2 nsx as well as the s2000. The type r shit is good too not the new one though. Don't ever compare Honda to Ferrari or Porsche they are literally junk compared to Honda.
>>28852548They've built so much around their FWD system that it makes it even less likely they will ever experiment with a RWD. The best we could ever hope to see if they do a collaboration with another company that does RWD. You just need a ton of different hardware in a RWD that they're not going to bother creating the manufacturing lines for. Don't forget that when they sell cars new they offer a warranty and servicing at their dealerships, they would basically have to double the training and parts-on-hand they have just to support a one off RWD
>>28852691Jesus like thats such a big fucking deel for one of the biggest car manufactuers.They dont do it becuause they are greedy like the rest of the industry. They dont give a fuck about cars, only care for growth and there isn't much of it in RWD anymore.
>>28851127Damn the Ferrari looks good, I wonder why they stopped doing all the fake vents and wings, are they making cars for white men again?
>>28852437Not sure what you are going on about. The side profile, rear profile, top profile and belt lines on the Prelude are extremely Porsche coded. It's obvious they used a Porsche as a template for their design.
>>28852797Honda makes more sense as a company when you realize their only vehicle is a Civic and everything else they sell is just a variant of that.
>same price as a base Z and bmw 230i it really is a nostalgia cash grab huh?
>>28851132I never realized that basically every angle of the Prelude is just copied homework from another brand
>>28849571It's taken until the ~2010s for automatics to even exceed manual performance in stock, average everyday cars. You can keep driving most manual transmissions hundreds of thousands of miles while the rest of the car fails around them, all while they still weigh less than the automatic that probably won't make it 150k. Why would I mechanically sabotage my car with a transmission designed for people who don't know how to drive?
