What are /o/'s arguments against FSD?
>>28852137not ready yet and i live somewhere with winters but i guess its fine for amazon and uberjeets deliveries
for whatever reason people are fine with giving throttle and brake control over to a set of cameras and very basic optical recognition systembut let that system recognize lane markings and nudge the power steering left/right and everyone throws a fucking fit
>>28852137it's gayso are youdo things yourselffuck robots
>>28852137I like driving.
>>28852217>fuck robotsOh nooo, who would wanna do that, especially with 8ft tall ones that'd be weird haha
>>28852137>sit in your tesla and set the destination to the nearest chipotle>tesla checks your records>finds that you filed your taxes wrong and owe the government 35 dollars>locks the doors and drives you to the police station for tax fraud
>>28852137I like to drive.
>>28852185most adaptive cruise control systems use radar/lidar, for whatever reason tesla ditched all that for a purely camera based deep learning system
>>28852293unironically less cucked and gayimagine being a Wall-E character vs. having a sex robot that can make sandwiches
I would be quite happy for my boring trafficy commute to be FSD'd, if I'm allowed to sit on my phone or whatever while it's happening. But at the same time I don't want driving to be completely taken away from the human, which is probably the end goal. I like going fast and endangering myself which is why I have a motorcycle.
>>28852327Being effortlessly picked up, claimed and princess carried home by your new robowife, noo I'd totally hate and wouldn't want that
>>28852343This is getting philosophical, but the fundamental assumption that "better" is good, is bullshit. Bad is sometimes better for the soul. What is objectively good is not necessarily good, because man is not an objective creature.Bad > boring.
>>28852346how far do you wanna go with it? I personally do not think enduring a stop-start, 1 hour long, no A/C on a hot day, loud, vibey, uncomfortable seat drive twice a day for years, is something we should aspire to, to improve our characters or something.
I like driving and I'm old enough to know that if it becomes the norm then governments and insurances will start charging you more and more to drive a mechanical car with the end goal of not producing or allowing it anymore. I don't want to be tracked everywhere I go and these things all have SIMs.I envision a future where fatties sit around in their cars eating fried chicken with video and audio advertising that's required by the vehicle terms of service. Not driving? Advertising opportunity!
>>28852348Very difficult question. I think to exist is to exist as a character in God's fiction, and what makes any fiction good is struggle and meaning. Pointless struggle is not interesting (e.g. I could go and bash my face against bricks right now), neither easy success (e.g. robots do everything for me). What is good is then what makes a good story, doing something interesting or having weird problems.However, mundane suffering is difficult to place. Some degree is certainly justified, but if it's the kind of thing that can be summed up in a single line (like you did) then it must be of limited value. Though, the opposite, a robot driving, maintaining and etc, the car, is certainly of zero value. The avoidance of mundane suffering to do interesting suffering is certainly a good, but self-driving cars and so on hardly make anything interesting or new possible, rather they just become another vessel of normies to do boring shit. It frees up no time, but makes human input irrelevant, so it must be a negative.
>>28852137The second a bug splats in the wrong spot, fog rolls in, something covers the ground, rain or snows, the thing is unpredictable. Lane assist took me mums m8 comp off the road. Unfortunately she forgot to turn it off.
>>28852137Don't like it, simple as.
>>28852325The reason was because musk didn't see the point in having redundancy. He does kind of have a point. If the camera is obscured and can't see the cars around it, which could be detected with lidar, it wouldn't be able to see signs or lines, so it's still fucked either way. The bigger blunder imo was removing uss.
>>28852308Glad I own a Tesla so it can't be remotely controlled, unlike a gas car.
>>28852293based Signalis poster. just finished this game, it was great. didn’t know it was so popular
>>28852537I was expecting gay propaganda seeing how leftist the Devs are, instead got gay propaganda and enjoyed it.NEED ROBOWIFE
>>28852629>all time peak players 862damn didn’t know it was so niche. pretty good though, hoping the dev makes a new one, as long as they unfuck the inventory micromanagement
Your data is getting sent to Tesla. They can't see your interior camera(supposably), but all your logs are getting collected. For the most part, nothing is happening, but they search through that data to find edge cases. Stuff like "Train track", "School bus", "Prone Ped", "Child VRU behind occlusion". I don't work at Tesla, I work for some other car company. Then again, I may just be some schizo online telling lies.
OP is a faggot
>>28852137I can and always will drive better than software. Why would you trust shit written by contractors in India to fully drive your car for you. That's also why they say "assisted" for obvious liability reasons. At the end of the day these companies pay people in Malaysia to remotely control these things anyway. Why the fuck would you want someone spawn camping you from miles away driving your drunk ass home. Modern cars and legislation forcing companies to develop this shit is the worst. Murder everyone that passes laws requiring any of these safety features. The features don't work, always fail and have a HUGE dependency of operating properly in an environmental goldilocks zone.
>>28852137If every car did it, and drove overall better than the average person driving manually, then every car would have to do it, and traffic would get increasingly fast in proportion to the ability of the cars and traffic control servers, gradually becoming a prohibitive hazard for every other means of getting from one place to another, slowly enough that people won't really notice it's happening. pushed to an absolute extreme, with high availability of robotaxis, you'll see busses and carpools replaced with multiple simultaneous taxis (so transit time per person is less than it would be if they had taken a bus or carpool, and empty taxis wandering around, adding to the traffic. Granted, at least some school busses are likely to just get replaced with robotic busses where that's cheaper to operate, but with schools being the zoos they are (and unsupervised busses will be even worse), the richer parents will be buying robotaxi subscriptions to keep their children safe. End result: every building is separated by an impassible river of cars. And there's always going to be someone monitoring and remotely controlling the cars in the event they get stuck, however infrequent that is. However, that's going to be someone in a foreign country who hasn't got a shred of sympathy for you. Hell, they probably hate you anyway even if you did live in the same country. Also the government could use them to disappear people or kill them in an "accident".
