Would it be gay to put a supercharger with a blower on my s197?
It'd be more gay if you didn't.
>>28858041>supercharger with a blowerA supercharger with a turbo? I'm not even ESL, more like EF(ourth)L, but if you wanna put a turbo then wouldn't it make sense to have either a magnetic clutch off an AC compressor on the supercharger or something like that?
>>28858064>turboNo, I mean with a bug catcher sticking out of the hood. Personally I think it’d be cool.
How obstructive actually are those things? Is the blind spot quite big?
>>28858087It is quite hard to see when you're up to your eyeballs in poon
My question is- if someone wanted to do a roots supercharger on an s197 Mustang for example, what would need to be done to the engine beforehand?Surely more would need to be done aside from just buying and bolting on right? How much money are we talking?
>>28858105If you have to ask, it's more than you can afford. The Roots blower alone isn't cheap and all the supporting mods aren't either.
>>28858120Well, I’m trying to learn anyway, so if you know I’d appreciate the learning experience.
>>28858140I honestly dont even know where to start.The example in you pic isnt compatible with the induction setup on an S197.That bird catcher isnt some cool looking air cleaner, its the actual throttle plates (like in the base of a carburetor or your theottle body) and it has an injector plate between it and the blower. There is no air filter so its race only. On the street they destroy engines. To run that particular setup you would need to gut your engine harness. Might as well get some junker with a blown engine.Pic related is how a roots or twin screw is mounted on modern engines.
>>28858041>supercharger with a blowerNo, you're already gay for not knowing what the words you're saying mean.
>>28858339You can put an air filter on an injector hat.It ain't pretty, but it does the job.
>>28858339>There is no air filter so its race only. On the street they destroy engines.To run that particular setup you would need to gut your engine harnessMan, that’s rough. So basically there’s no possible way for someone to run a supercharger with an injector hat?>>28858350Nice, but it takes away from aesthetics.
>>28858041If you're putting down less than 600 to the tire, yes. Otherwise, no.
>>28858350They also make them with a 6x2 round filter behind the butterflies, but that’s for things like low boost truck big blocks and not for anything looking to make power over 4500 rpm.
What are some good coilovers for an S197?
>>28859004Steeda.Eibach.Intrax if you want more drop.Always get variable rate.
There's 2 s197 generations
Just slap some pvc pipes on the hood!
>>28858041Just turbo it, I promise you the spool time is insignificant for a 600whp setup, it'll make more torque, and it's way easier on the engine internals than a mechanical blower, and like others have said the wiring situation is way easier, it'll run better, it'll be quieter off-throttle, it'll stink less, it'll be better in the cold, the list goes on and on
>>28859842>Just turbo itIf I do this, then at what point would I need to beef up the internals?My brother has always said that turbos to gas engines tend to go out more often. Idk if there’s anything to that.Also, would a turbo make my engine last longer?
>>28858041Yes that would be gay(dumb). Put a centrifugal on it like everyone else.
>>28860251Shit for DDing, no power unless you rev the bitch. No match for a roots blower.
>>28860244I can't believe I have to say this. You're clearly retarded. Probably live in an apartment trying to boost your daily driver when you don't even have a garage to fix it in. GO TO A TUNER. DO NOT TEXT A TUNER SHOP. DO NOT CALL THEM. DO NOT EMAIL THEM. DRIVE YOUR CAR. TO THE SHOP. DO NOT COMPETE WITH THE PROFESSIONAL. LET THEM KNOW YOU HAVE NO IDEA WTF YOU ARE DOING, BE HONEST. THEN LET THEM KNOW YOU WANT TO BOOST YOUR CAR, AND YOU ARE GOING TO THEM FIRST FOR GUIDANCE. BECAUSE THEY WILL STEER YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR THE EQUIPMENT THEY USE ANDTHAT THEY HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH. SO THAT YOU AREN'T SWAPPING DUMB ASS EBAY SHIT OFF YOUR CAR BECAUSE YOU TOOK ADVICE FROM MEXICANS ON 4CHAN TELLING YOU TO "BUY A TURBO INSTEAD BRO" go to a good tuner shop. Tell them you want a SUPERCHARGER. Let them know you want their guidance on the kits. They will immediately recommend parts that they are comfortable and familiar with like the back of their dicks.
>>28860263Wrong, wrong, and wrong.
>>28858041Can you explain to me what a supercharger without a blower is.
>>28860244Superchargers are parasitic and turbochargers are not.Supercharging requires +50% headroom on the block and internals for whatever amount of power output.Any super'd engine that is putting 600 at the wheels would handle 800 with a turbo. It's not an exact trade-for-trade because the forces and pressures involved are different, so your supercharged 600 which is actually consuming 1,000 won't handle 1,000 on a turbo with the same block and internals.
>>28858041The cost will probably be more than the value of your mustang.
>>28860339they both provide the same fucking thing. airflow between the compressor outlet to the back of the intake valves.
>>28858339another thing, racing mechanical injection only runs well flat out.
>>28862128You are an idiot.
>>28858087Yes. The old school blowers with carbs are quite obtrusive, the new ones sucking from the back usually fit under the hood.
>>28858105If you want to make 500 just bolt it on, if you want to make 1,000 it's $$$.
>>28858041It's straighter to suck dick
>>28858339>its race onlyYou are talking out of your ass.Start this vid at 8:00 and you will see this kid driving everywhere.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=948GaqlIPiQ
>>28860339God I fucking hate backyard mechanics.Look up "turbo parasitic loss".Nothing is free.Turbos have less parasitic loss but its still substantial and real.You have an increased load on the piston during the exhaust stroke to spin the turbo impeller. It the difference between breathing normally and playing a saxophone.
>>28858105You will find better info by watching people do supercharger installs on the car you own, which there should be a lot for your mustang. Also they love to show off their parts lists so you will become more familiar with whats actually out in the aftermarket
>>28858600>So basically there’s no possible way for someone to run a supercharger with an injector hatIf you plan on street driving it, that'd be a retarded setup as the other anons have already told you. If you want something street-drivable with a blower stack, the easiest way is to run a Holly Terminator or equivalent TBI setup that bolts up to a carb flange on top of the blower. Chop the throttle plates out of a bird catcher and stuff a filter into the scoop. Not like you're going to do it anyways though. If you're dead set on supercharging it, you're better off with the drop in Vortec kit.
How much would it cost to color match this thing? Also, should I install coilovers myself or nah?”
>>28863926Holy fucking shit you faggot retard just sell your car and get a fucking bus pass omfg
>>28860276based and reasonable advice giver
>>28862951Nothing I said was wrong you fat nasty nigger bitch.
>>28862270strong reply. I've been building and boosted engines since Clinton was president.
>>28865875Clinton anon, what are some good coils for my s197? I don’t wanna spend a boatload of money, but also I don’t want crap. In other words is there any advantage to say Steeda coils over something cheaper?
>>28867393OEM with copper plugs gapped smaller than stock.
>>28867412Sorry, I meant coilovers, but I will keep that in mind.
>>28867453not a suspension guy but get something with a spherical bearing top mount. my go-to is Feals. you're gonna pay up for it though.
>>28867393BC racing coilovers are great. So are tein and kw. Remember your car has a solid rear axle so you won't be able to lower it very much with 18" wheels and if you lower past a certain amount you're really going to want extremely high spring rates so that your rear axle isn't bottoming out into the bottom of your chassis. A good way to have nice wheel fitment is to go with 19 or 20" wheels, they will be large enough to not need you to slam your car to the ground just to have nice fitment, like you would with 18s. That way you can buy a nice inexpensive coilover kit without worrying about building specific spring rates to prevent your rear axle slamming into the chassis
>>28867412S197s didn't use copper plugs stock, they had platinums with a 100k mile change interval.
>>28867918So what?
>>28868126Read the first 3 letters of the post I was responding to Anon.
Kek, imagine being the retarded fags who fell for obvious bait ITTCOULDNT BE ME
>>28858041i have to wonder if you guys actually think this deeply about this stuff or if its just a way to say "i want to do this" acceptable for 4chan. do what you want.
>>28867829I just measured my wheels and they were around 18 1/2. It’d be cool to get some bigger ones and maybe a little wider like pic rel, but idk if that would interfere with turn radius.
>>28858041>Would it be gayYes
>>28868227I did. This thread is about the stock engine with a supercharger put on. Someone asked about coils for the engine with a supercharger added and then someone suggested what ignition to use with that engine with a supercharger added on. No one cares what the stock ignition is. Fag.
>>28868426you should stick to one goal at a time. Then move on to the next.
>>28858064many heavy machines, locomotives, boats use both, 2stroke diesel for instance must have a mechanical blower to run. but they can have a turbo as well. the blower will suck through the turbo just fine at low rpm, and when the turbo kicks in it will deliver boost just fine through the blower.. a blower just moves air from one place to another, if that air is under boost then it moves said air under boost.
