1250awhp+ for 200kMaking o mad since 2003 lol
I think they’re cool but can someone with $200k go into a dealership and buy one or do you have to go through some boomer rigmarole and pretend to be the salesman’s friend to end up paying $100k over sticker
>>28860998I'm an ausfag who's folden crummydonks where used as test mulesThat said I like them and hope we get more turbo ones here
it's so fast I kneel in respect
>>28860993Yeah but so much uglier than the base model.
C7 ZR1 - 3,560 lbsC8 ZR1X - 4,139 poundsEverything just keeps getting fatter.
From an engineering standpoint it's cool, the new V8 is definitely impressive even if Dodge made a 1000hp V8 first. But as a consumer I mean who really gives a shit. It's just another unobtainable supercar like we weren't already drowning in those already. Meanwhile a base Corvette is 70k and with no Camaro, there's nothing for the everyman. They'll sell 4000 of these and the 350k people who bought Camaros can kick rocks. I'm not a communist but the class division in America has to hit a breaking point eventually
>>28861018Bad faith comparison. You know it's heavier because it's a hybrid. The regular ZR1 is only 100lbs heavier than the C7 ZR1 which is actually pretty good considering it went from a supercharged ohv to a turbo dohc
>>28861022Camaro is very cool I hope they bring it back
>>28861028>it got fatter because we stuck in batteries>the ones without batteries are still fatter but that doesn’t count because it’s “only” 100lbsnice argument
>>28861635Yeah you're right obviously comparing an awd hybrid to a rwd non-hybrid is a totally fair completely equivalent apples to apples comparison.
>>28860993Will still be slower than a GTR
>>28860993Plastic garbage that's too wide.You couldn't pay me to take one.
>>28860993>Making o mad since 2003 lolCareful anon, you'lll make chink shills come out of the woodwork when they cope with their EV trash.
>>28861022$200k is nothing get a job you worthless bum
its much more interesting to see manufacturers offer affordable performance on their most basic models than to compete for sheer numbers at the ultra high endanyone can offer giga hp for 100k+the challenge is making usably fast cars for less than 60k - almost nobody is putting much effort into that
>>28865629You mean like the Mustang, Camaro and the watermelon chariot? All of which will outhandle $100k+ cars.
>>28865742those cars weigh like 5000lbs
>>28865749So? They're still faster and will outhandle most lighter vehicles. Most hypercars are 4000+lbs as well. It's funny how everybody here wants cheap and light cars but everybody here also seems to hate kit cars which give you just that.
>>28865742the mustang and camaro are incredibly cheap and shitty on the inside, cannot fit an adult in the back seat, are based on ancient platforms, etc. nobody makes affordable performance wagons, hatchbacks, and crossovers that are new designs but not ultra-luxury the most commonly sold cars are things like Honda CRV and Rav4 and there's no attempt to sell stuff like that with engine upgrades.
>>28865761So you want a Rolls Royce interior in a sub $60k vehicle with 400+hp? Were you microwaved as a baby? The most commonly sold vehicles are pickup trucks which have 400hp and really nice interiors. They can be made fast as well. What's your problem with those? Too big? Too fancy? You sound like a goldilocks ass faggot with unrealistic demmands.
>>28865769you seem lost on the concept of nuanceI just think it should have real leather seats that are soft and comfy and powered, and at least 250-300 hp. We have the technology.
>>28865742>Camaro and the watermelon chariot?oh you mean the ones that aren't made anymore?
>>28865791They were for sale for like 70 fucking years. What's with you zoomers and expecting cheap cars and houses to fall into your lap? You snooze you lose.
>>28861022>Dodge made a 1000hp V8 first.The Dodge Hellephant engine ain't Smog legal.
>>28861022>class division in America has to hit a breaking point eventuallyLess than 10% of the population hold and control 99% of all the wealth.I'm amazed that it hasn't been open season hunting on the Uber wealthy yet
/o/ didn't exist in 2003 you kike
>>28865798No one's expecting shit retard. How is your rant even relevant? >I want an affordable sportscar not a hypercar that costs as much as a new house>Well just buy one of these cars that don't exist anymore>I can't because they... don't make them anymore>wElL yOu ShOuLd HaVe BoUgHt OnE sOoNeRFor the record I did buy a new Mustang once. I also had a Focus RS for a few years too. I'm a believer in supporting the industry and voting with your wallet. But the problem is these companies aren't giving us options anymore. Yet they continue to crank out an endless supply of 100k+ cars and trucks that sell crazy low volume, hundreds or maybe a thousand a year. Then say they can't make a new Camaro because they didn't sell well enough. It's insulting
>>28860993It really is a shame that it’s so hideous
>>28865798how does one buy a car new before they're born?
How many loops and barriers are there before you're even looked at seriously to buy one?
>>28865629>Affordable performance on their base modelsSoooo like the base c8?
>>28860993'parently it outperforms bugatti tourbillion, too
>>28867783C8 hasn't been "affordable" in several years. Not that long ago this price tag got you a Z06 or a ZL1.
>>28867825Corvettes have always been expensive as fuck Anon, I think a 2001 C5 was like a $45,000 car then, which is about $82,000 in today's money, our wages and buying power are pretty much cooked, I know old ass Gen Yers that are barely buying a crib at nearly 40 with a decent income and the house is in the middle of fucking nowhere because they're coping that the American dream is real.
>>28866415It's a fucking Corvette not a faggy Porsche or Ferrari. Pay the dealer markup and it's yours.
>>28867825But a C8 is much faster than a 2005 Z06 or a 2010 ZL1. if 70k is "expensive" in modern inflation dollars, why the fuck do you retards keep saying the original NSX was "cheap unlike the new one".
>>28867905>why the fuck do you retards keep saying the original NSX was "cheap unlike the new one".Fucking Milennials got their stupid nostalgia goggles on just like their boomer parents they hate so much it's hilarious, youll see people bitching about the cost of a nu-Prelude, meanwhile ignoring the 5th gen Prelude was costing like 48 grand as well.
>>28867825low mileage c8 seems to go for $55k used for a stingray. $55k for a ~30 thousand mile mid engine 500 hp car with a DCT. That's crazy my nigga.
>*mogs the zr1x into irrelevancy for just $20k more*
>>28868179This, if we're talking about over $200,000, I want a hurcan clout machine, fuck a chevy.
>>28868192>>28868179>bugmen have infested the thread
>>28868198You're right, 200k is a bit much, how about one that spanks the regular ZR1 for only 70k?
>>28868198You don't understand people with money Anon, they want something that looks the part when they spent that kind of money, they give a shit about 1250HP per dollar poor person shit like us, that's why you're not gonna see a lot of the ZR1X compared to other exotic cars, because Corvettes aren't exotic for the most part, the base car is 70 grand and you're spending $200,000, I'm not saying brand perception is the end all be all, but it's certainly significant when talking about an expensive car.
>>28860993>madwhy would I be mad? thats cool as fuck
>>28868206>they give a shit about 1250HP per dollar poor person shit like usthey don't*
>>28867905>why the fuck do you retards keep saying the original NSX was "cheap unlike the new one".I said that?
>>28868308Quit being disingenuous Anon, it is a common idea among nostalgiafags where they think cars cost nothing back then, meanwhile you could spent the equivalent of $29,000 on an economical car that has no features, shitty audio, shitty wheels, some of the cars you can by today are actually incredible for the money.
>>28867851Brother that's literally my point. The Corvette is expensive. It's not affordable. But in 2001 it wasn't an issue because you could still get a much cheaper Camaro. They also sold a wide range of SS versions of other cars to fit all lifestyles and budgets, like the Cavalier, Cobalt, Silverado, Monte Carlo, and Impala. Now it's JUST the Corvette they don't offer a performance trim of any other vehicle in their entire lineup. It's just expensive ass impractical ass Corvette or nothing, fuck everybody else
>>28868313Oh my bad. I didn't realize I was just a strawman. Do carry on, don't let my actual sentiments get in the way of your emotional venting.
>>28868316>Now it's JUST the Corvette they don't offer a performance trim of any other vehicle in their entire lineup.You're totally right Anon, it's hard to believe there was an era where you could get an interesting car without having a ton of money, GM just said fuck it and slapped a supercharger on the 2.2 Cobalt and sold it for $36,000 today's money, who knows how much money something like that would cost with increased regulations and all the shit you need to have on a car now.
>>28867825K well we are talking about performance vehicles here, I'm sure you have exactly 0 cars which you would consider "affordable" in this category
>>28868179It can't even put down the power and weighs more than your mother
>>28868547>I'm sure you have exactly 0 cars which you would consider "affordable" in this categoryI do but any vehicle I list would be dismissed as not being what you consider to be a "performance vehicle". The constraints of the category are so strict and numerable that basically anything other than a Corvette or Ferrari wouldn't count.
>>28861022>>28861609Can anyone actually elaborate why they dumped it? We're sales that fucking bad? I mean it's a great car. Sure the visibility sucks but it's not meant to be a Subaru legacy lol
>>28868550Americans run their 1/4 mile times on prepped drag strips, the chinese run them on bare asphalt
>>28868563Sales were fine but we live in an era where profits take a backseat to profitability. It doesn't matter if a product makes money. All that matters is return on investment. Even if it means losing income, losing sales, losing customers, driving those customers straight into the open arms of your competitors, which ultimately hurts the health and longevity of your company, as long as you can trick the shareholders and board members for a few years and rack up those $20 million annual bonus paychecks, fuck it, let the next guy come in and fix the problems you made. Or let the company go out of business, who gives a shit.
>>28868566Sounds like the Chinese are retarded
>>28868632Stunning commentary
>>28868632You will be radioactive soon
>four cams >zero shitrods
>>28868632agreedunprepped = way too many variablesprepped = even playing ground to compare thingsbut retards will argue otherwise
>>28868632Watch yourself, white devil...
>>28868641>>28868646>Chang mad his 5000 lb toy is slower than a real American SupercarSince when is this board full of slant eyes?
>>28868680But I don't care about performance on a prepped drag strip because I'm not driving on a prepped drag strip. I care about performance on the street because that's where I drive my car. If you want to start talking about variables, then all quarter mile times need to be measured at the same track in the same lane on the same day with the same tires. Otherwise there's too many variables so it's not an even playing ground.
>>28868748>i don't care about performance with a racing driver, i care about performance with a guy with no racing experience behind the wheel which represents the real worldguess this means the Corvette is the fastest production car at the nurburgring.
>>28868566Damn, they can't afford a track?
>>28868748>Otherwise there's too many variables so it's not an even playing ground.so because there a multiple variables, we shouldn't eliminate any of them?or maybe eliminating the largest variable, surface traction, then limits things to simply elevation/pressure, temp and windand obviously publishing a test result taken during a 60mph gale invalidates things, but a 5mph variation and +/-20f isn't that huge of a change when we are comparing multiple cars
>>28868820>>28868772Pretty crazy cope about not testing in real-world conditions going on here, but hey you do you
>>28868820>we shouldn't eliminate any of them?You can eliminate whatever you want. I won't care either way. A car can run an 8 second quarter mile on a drag strip and that little factoid won't do you any good at all when you're driving it and can't even look at the gas pedal without spinning your wheels. So I care more about how well a car performs in real world conditions because I live in the real world and my commute to work doesn't involve any VHT
>>28860993>1250whp>still slower than a 911 with half the hpkek
>>28868914Huh?
>>28868914Kek Americans will do anything but make the rest of the fucking car better
>>28868914americans are only good at making 1/4 mile drag cars
>>28868920>2.8 seconds faster than a car with 518HP compared to 1240HPHoly fucking shit
>>28868914there has never ever been an unmodified 911 faster than the zrx1never will be either, Lol
>>28868925did they bump up the HP on the 911s in question?they did not
>>288689242.8 seconds is an eternity on a short track like that. When is more power a bad thing? If you want to spend twice as much on a 911 that looks like shit, sounds like shit and is slower with half the power then go right ahead. Wake up. The Vette is the new king.
>hybrid
>brutally raped by an 8 years old 911 grim
>>28868926would that help poorsche stop losing on their own track? hard to say
Lol
:)
>>28868953Based blacked series
:D
Imagine actually being so emotionally invested in which car you'll never own is faster around some track you'll never even drive on either.
>>28868965this one caused a big maldly mald
>>28868965>the pro driver in question: misha
>>28868970Whoa I know that dude he is a pro driver
still plastic?
still mald?
>>28868984the one that’s constantly crashing and keeps coming up with excuses on why he’s losing all the time?
The factory beast with 500hp less than the hybrid cuckvette. Unmatched.
i share the same opinion as misha and im an expert at watching car videos
500hp less and only 10 seconds slower per lapremarkable achievements!
imagine if the black series had the overpowered new pavement the vette drove on. holy shit easy 10 seconds
>professional race driver says sub 6:40 is possible uh oh
>>288690156:39.99 > 6:39.27:D :D :D
>>28867825Dawg, my friends C4 ZR1 was close to $30,000 in 1991.They have always been expensive.
>>28868198Rather bugmen than boomer worshipping bootlickers
>>28869070that's the whole point, dumbass
>>28869015>lap record was on wet trackholy shitwhat a M O N S T E R
>>28860993>2026 Corvette>2003
>>28860998i just spec'd one out on their website but didn't hit submit. there was a 2400 dollar delivery fee but didn't seen anything beyond that.
>>28860993Still a GM piece of shit at the end of the day https://www.youtube.com/watch/CX-gbYSpeJE
>>28869015Fuck these faggots for stealing the Viper design
>>28869015corvettesisters.......
