How did they become such meme cars? It seems like they had a certain stigma even when new.
Hindsight is 20/20Many such cases.End of the day they're still Stewart little cars. Borderline cuck fantasy.
>>28861046Over 1.25 million Mazda MX-5 units have been produced at the Ujina plant in Hiroshima, Japan, since production began in 1989.How many other 2 seater rwd convertibles do you know of that were produced in such quantity?
People who bought MGs of the 60s and 70s were known to be fruityConvertibles historically have been mid life crisis cars, even if the Miata is a genuinely good car Eventually they bottomed out in value so teenagers and young adults could afford themThey were then badly modified because they were plentiful and affordable, same as anything elseJDM cars as a whole became wrapped up in weeb culture which kinda goes with tranny culture for some reasonNow they're worth more unmodified than modified because it's almost 40 years old.Did I miss anything?
>>28861053Also forgot to add, many women bought them when new because it was a "cute" car.
>>28861052>Over 1.25 million Mazda MX-5 units have been produced at the Ujina plant in Hiroshima, JapanSo all of them are slightly radioactive? That explains everything.
>>28861052>rwd 2 seater convertible Odd how you have to get that deep in specifics to be top seller.More convertible mustangs have been sold every year the miata was produced.1.3 million original bodystyle mustangs (1964 1/4 - 1966) were produced.Honda CBX 1050 Superbike outsold miata's best year for every year it was produced.Averaging 33k yearly sales is a failure- thats literally the production numbers of the Pontiac Aztek.Think about that for a minute.Miata is "so popular" that the Aztek matched its sales numbers....
>>28861068The Aztek was popular. It's one of the cars that served as a blueprint for the cuckover eggshit that dominates the market today.
Just watch as the pickup truck and cuckover buyers justify why they don't like good thing.The stigma keeps the prices down, the amount of them that are raced keeps parts for a 30 yo car in stock.You afraid a random middle schooler in a CRV will call you gay? Oh no, how horrifying!
>>28861053I'll add that there's always been a certain segment of car culture that's more about fashion than performance. Millennials will remember when older VWs were big with that contingent and you saw tons done up the same way, slammed to the ground on stock wheels or steelies, artificially rusted hoods, etc. For whatever reason that attitude has moved onto Miatas in recent years and you get the same thing, lowered on the cheapest coilovers they can find, ugly wheels, everybody obsessing over the same steering wheels and shift knobs and other irrelevant bullshit, and so on.
>>28861074>Aztek was popularLol.Fuck no it wasnt.>Market Reception: Considered a major commercial failure due to its, at the time, controversial design and high pricing
>>28861078The one thing I can't get over is how terrible the NA's headlights are because they're round.>just get an nb thenI like pop ups, I just don't like how they look on the NA. I've seen the low profile retrofits but those look awkward too.
Is a clean, stock sub 100k miles nb2 for 8k a good deal or not?
>>28861144>how terrible the NA's headlights are because they're round.The aesthetics or the lumens output?
>>28861166The aesthetics. I can get by the low output by buying more powerful lightbulbs.
>>28861176Get some that look like eyeballs
>>28861181I prefer square headlights like the 1st gen Probe or 3rd gen Poopra. Sadly I haven't seen a square headlight retrofit for the car, just those low profiles.
>>28861181>modern chink shit led pattern on a classic carthis is the most disgusting thing you can do
>>28861046Gee, I wonder why a highly reliable, highly modifiable, small, agile, rear wheel drive coupe that has offered a manual transmission since inception is popular.There is literally no comparison. Every other manufacturer cucked out of making cars anything like it. It's the ultimate enthusiast car.
>>28861189Seems like an interesting 3D printing project, I think the factory headlight buckets are just plastic and you ought to be able to print something that'd hold up well enough if you can do ABS.
>>28861206Dont care.Didn't ask.
>>28861074YouTube quirkiness videos about muh nostalgia doesn't equate to popularity.
>>28861181Riced the fuck out, and you're a wrenchlet
>>28861189I had a set of those. Regret. I thought they looked and performed poorly.
>>28861258I like squared ones, too, but they don't look right on the round, curvy Miata. They look better on cars with rigid strakes and body lines. I'm not surprised they performed poorly.
>>28861258>>28861267Second gen Probe is also pretty curvy yet square headlights fit there well in my opinion
>>28861046Because /o/ fags can't stop gooning to it and acting like it's a great car.
>>28861241Miatas are literally calling cards for fags.Nobody takes them seriously in any state so who gives a shit if its stock or riced? (Well obviously homosexuals who use them as a wardrobe accessory)
>>28861286That's never been true in Australia. Small coupes and convertibles were always called hairdresser cars, but the Mx-5 always stood above the rest. Often people make lame jokes like that as a way to start a conversation, as they are too shy to just start talking with a stranger. Get a life.
>>28861046I thought about getting my then-GF, now-wife one. I think she'd really enjoy it. Unfortunately we have a kid now so it's not really feasible until he stops needing a car seat.Anyway, I thought mostly women liked these cars and that's how they became super popular (whether it was the men buying to please women or women actually having them is another discussion).
>>28861307Maybe you should pick up a Mustang or Camaro rag. Room for more baby seats;)
>>28861303>t. Delusional closet homosexual
>>28861144They should only be up at night, who fuckung cares what they look like at night?
I remember particularly around 2010-2015 every auto blog under the sun kept making articles about how great the Miata was. They're good cars but they're so vanilla to the point of being such a reddit car. I like them but I cannot stand the weirdos you encounter with them.
>>28861666>They're good cars but ...Keep justifying spending 10x+ on a worse car. "Oh no, what will some rando I'll never see again think about me? I'd better buy a V6 pickup or FWD crossover!"NPCs are driven by not standing out in any way. They will call anything unusual gay because clinging to the mob mentality makes them feel safe. We're 75% overweight and 40% obesity - so any man that's skinny is "gay" because clearly all these overweight people are professional bodybuilders. But just going out in public proves otherwise.Sometimes, a good thing [car], is just a good thing.I truly believe that the fear of being seen in a car that isn't ordinary is the driver of all miata hate. And that's fine because I just bought a near perfect '99 for $4k last month. So, keep telling people that they're for homos I guess.
They're made for poor people, so it makes sense.
>>28861311Mustang is actually high on the list. She does like them a lot. She would be too afraid to drive one though (this is entirely psychological, has nothing to do with power or handling), so it would be my car, not hers, and she needs a car, hence my idea for a Miata because I wouldn't give a shit if she dinged it up.
>>28861286I'm not even talking about miatas. I'm talking about buying chinkshit you faggot ricer. Fuck your Miata. Fuck your temu builds too you wrenchlet faggot.
>>28861669this is exactly what >>28861666 meansits a good car but the owners are fucking autistic weirdo spergs
>>28861746Who cares? A good car is a good car. And if it's cheap because npcs think about cocks when they see them? Even better. What do you drive?
*mmich* man this thing lookin' CLEAN cuh!
>28.02.2026>still mad about the peoples champion Let me guess, people missed out on buying one when they were cheap and not they have sour grapes.
>>28861778Veilside bodykits are unironically based.
>>28861851Based on what?
what is it about this car that makes faggots so assmad. weekly threads about this shit year after year
>>28861717Your opinion matters not.
>>28861778>rectangular headlights
>>28861935Those temu lips though!!
>>28861862Some people are just really, really insecure.Or, they create threads they know will get heavy engagement.
>>28861046They were beloved from new.
>>28861666>they're so vanillavanilla is a 100hp fwd CVT crossover, not a 2 door rwd coupe
>>28861778the skirts and rear bumper are ok but the front bumper and spoiler ruin itwhy would you take the quintessential happy little car and give it this derpy ass catfish mouth?
>>28862585Especially with wide wheels and street-legal semi slicks, then slap in cusco 1.5 diff.
>>28861849clean
>>28862621>slicksreally the worst thing for these cars, it goes from being able to swing the back end out every corner at low speeds to just being stuck to the road or doing that snap over steer shit. so yea again, less is more.
>>28862588>the skirts and rear bumper are okjust stop
>>28861046its the purity, everything you need, nothing you dont. fun fact there wasnt a single jewish or black person involved in the creation of this car.
>>28862864Agree with this. Ran semi-slicks on the road for a little while, limits were much higher (once they'd warmed up), but breakaway was much more sudden and the car felt much less fun.
Butthurt that a Japanese company in 1989 picked up the "add lightness" philosophy and did it with a reliable engine.That really is all there is to it.If we (Brits) had come up with a roadster of this quality, it would have just been added to the list of beloved sports cars like the MGB.
>>28861046>Build a good car that's exactly what everyone says they want in a car. No compromises in regards to the driving experience.>Noooooo not like that what are you a faggot?!?!It's a great little car. DD a Raptor but Miata drivers are probably the best I encounter on a regular basis. I've really never had any negative interaction with one and aside from some 70+ year old owners they've all been into cars of all types.>>28861080>Millennial>VW slammedHuh? Beetles were a genx thing after boomers ditched theirs. We never had a strong beetle scene. Our VWs were synchro vans we could live in down by the river.
>>28862901Ford Probe debuted also in 1989.Outsold the Miata every year, sometimes with 4x the sales even though it wasnt marketed globally.Was faster and hit higher Gs on the skidpad.>was also 90% MazdaMiata was always a lifestyle car.Its an accessory like a purse, the same mentality as Jeep brand Jeep owners.Sure some people track their Miatas. And some people rock crawl with Jeeps.But 99% (of both) are purchased simply for the "look at me!!" aspect.
>>28862962Miatas are the most raced car. Jeeps are the most offroaded.You are upset because a thing stands out in any way and you have no personality of your own because you fear others' judgement. Enjoy your heavy FWD automatics or trucks I guess.
>>28862911Not Beetles, I'm talking Mk1-3 Golfs and Jettas. Shit was everywhere around like 2010.
>>28862976>Miatas are the most raced carHahahahahahahahaHoly shit.Everyone point and laugh at this faggot.
>>28862865>just stopyou can't make meit gives me CLK vibes, I don't hate it
Miata is the praxis of cheap fun sports car.Can you find a faster car? Yes.Does it handle as good? No.Can you find a fancier car? Yes.Can you afford it without an unusually high salary? No.>(inb4 some faggots larps as a fintech analyst making 340k per year fresh out of university)
>>288631321997 Probe GT was $2k cheaper.It was faster.It hit higher numbers on the skidpad.>(using that particular.year/model as an example just because I always liked the look).Every random year Camaro I looked up had higher skidpad and 0-60 numbers than MiataEvery random year Mustang I looked up had higher skidpad and 0-60 numbers than MiataA 1989 5.0 GT Mustang had an MSRP $200 lower than a 1989 Miata.A 1999 GT Mustang had an MSRP $400 higher than a Miata.Everything people claim about the Miata are lies.Dont believe me?Youre on the internet, look up the numbers yourself.
>>28863216the problem is the miata was always a terrible numbers carthey're great from a qualitative standpoint which is why everyone complains about them going about "feels" but a miata is one of those cars that drives great out the box and every car company has benchmarked at some point>>28861750its your attitude you autismo its like watching train foamers i own a sti and i like miatas
>>28863007American Iron is a dead class and not all the cars are even Mustangs if that is what you're trying to imply. My last NASA event there were 21 cars running Spec Miata vs 5 in American Iron.
>>28862962>Ford ProbeCan't believe you're shilling such a weak-sauce car in an Mx-5 thread. Probe is just a reskin of the front wheel drive Mazda (GE) 626/ Mx-6 platform, but without the hi-performance KLZE engine. Sure, you can engine swap one, but you're better off using a lighter car like the Mx-3 and just throw that Probe in the bin.
>>28863325>without the hi-performance KLZE engine.Youre just proving my point.The probe is 90% Mazda without the performance and still outperforms the Miata.Mazda's "le special sports car" couldn't even out perform Mazda's grocery getter.
>>28863509
>>28863526>half a century differenceFanbois are so disingenuous.
>>28863509Mx-5 is a 2 seat sports car not a 4 seat Camry competitor. And it can't compete against the Mx-6, which is it's natural competitor. Probe is 122Kw, Mx-6 is 147kW. Probe is eww. Good thing they've pretty well all gone to the crusher now in Oz.
>>28863716The 1997 MX-6 V6 was the identical engine used in the 1997 Probe GT, dumbfuck.
>>28863731Doesn't change the fact that the J-spec MX-6 had 200hp when the Probe GT had 164.
>>28863731I'm not a complete dumbfuck in this regard. Swapped a KL-ZE into my old Astina/Lantis back in the day.
>>28862864So drive a body-rolling piece of shit with no grip then, why bother with a well-balanced car you can rape the shit out of and stay stuck to the road like shit to a woolen blanket?No snap oversteer with a clutch diff and stock power. I can bury this cunt into the apex and go WOT, losing speed due to the sheer amount of grip. Outrageously controllable.Chuck some LingLongs on the stock daisies if you want to break it loose but still remain in control.
>>28862900>Driving on the limit is driving on the limit>I'd rather have less grip overall to suit my abilitySo drive at 80% of your limit and have no issues.I refuse to believe these opinions are genuine, fun aside.
>>28864093Miatas attract not just lap time chasers, but also people who want to intentionally drift at under 30mph. Slicks are really sensitive to heat changes and as that guy mentioned, when the rear kicks out on slicks it's very abrupt and difficult to reign in. Also it's fun to be able to just do donuts or burnouts on a whim if the road is empty, it's hard to do that with ~100whp and grippy tires.
>>28864100100% agree on the low-speed fun value. Just about every time it rains I'm on a swivel.Still, if you're breaking loose with slicks up to temp, you area REALLY on the limit and far beyond recoverable on the street for the most part.
>>28864090Body roll is actually good, you cant drive
>>28863216>muh numberscool
>>28864984But "muh numbers" is all the miata fans claim the reason is the miata exists.In reality its NOT numbers.Its "a cute car".Thats the only reason people buy it.
>>28865008all the praise I hear for the miata is for its looks and its driving feel, two things that are kinda unquantifiable
>>28865011>its looks>driving "feel"Exactly.Fags and hairdressers in a lifestyle car.1982 Mustang GT Turbo convertible (pic).4 banger.Before the SVO.Outperforms the miata in every metric.But it wasnt "cute".
>>28865028>Outperforms the miata in every metricdoes it feel good to drive it though?this is the thing you benchracers always ignore, probably because you don't have or drive cars
>>28865028>floppy noodle chassis>59/41% weight distribution41% sounds nice, it's what you can join.
>>28865033And yet it still outperforms the miata.Thays says a lot about how shitty the miata is....
>>28865322not for the price. Mustang is much more expensive than Mx-5 to buy
>>28867157Both base model MX-5 and Mustang are about the same price.Miata with 2.0 @181 hpMustang with 2.3 turbo @ 315 hpCope more.
>>28867654The non-SVO 4-cyl turbo 80s Mustang, in its final year, did 0-60 in 10.8 sec. The slowest 1.6L NAs do less than 9. You're bringing in the new mustang as comparison, that's obviously not what we're talking about.
>>28867774I guess the guy you responded to was talking the ND, but the reply chain started with a fox 4-cyl turbo mustang. No one was talking about the 21st century versions until then.
>>28865028Brother, a convertible Mustang 4 banger is a hairdresser's car.
>>28867654For me in 2026 the Mx-5 base is Au$45K, Mustang starts at Au$90K. Works for me.
>>28867774>The non-SVO 4-cyl turbo 80s MustangThey werent turbos, dipshit.The GT Turbo and SVO cars ran in the high 6 to mid7 second 0-60 times.Youre quoting times for the base model normally aspirated 4 bangers.And like I mentioned earlier, the 5.0 GT was 200 bucks cheaper than its 1989 Miata counterpart and it ran the 0-60 in 6.1 seconds.
>>28867849buying a japanese interpretation of a little british car for the 0-60 is missing the pointnext you'll be comparing 1960s triumph spitfires to 1960s v8 mustangs and wonder out loud why people bought the british roadsters
>>28867776I had assumed the other anon was talking about 2025 since I already posted numbers about the Fox Body Mustang being cheaper, faster and hitting higher numbers on the skidpad.>>28867779The Mustang is actually a secretary's car (literally how it was advertised on debut). Whereas the Miata is more LGBT than Subaru.>>28867786Thats rough and id have do some serious soul searching before busting out the checkbook for either. Considering you have Holdens with that Godly I6 id make friends at a machine shop, restore a commodore and ditch both the Miata and Mustang.
>>28867859>you mad?>ya, you mad
>>28867861Imagine that, a 5.0L on stickier wider tires can post better numbers than a 1.6 or 1.8! Big surprise. But there's a reason the lolcantturn thing became a meme, and it's that car.
>>28867865>lolcantturn thing became a meme, and it's that car.Its faster around any track than a Miata.The meme is because of highschoolers not being able to handle the power. Dont have to worry about losing control in a Miata because lol no power.But ya, go ahead and keep lying to yourself about the performamce difference because of a meme.All performance specs and track times show the Mustang blows the fucking doors off the Miata.All the numbers are out there.American Iron and Miata Spec race the same tracks.Post the numbers.Post the links.
>>28867878Sure bud.
>>28867878I remember in the '00s beating 5.0s in my base model RSX on all seasons at the legal drag strip with the cat removed in the 00s. I'm not impressed, I've had much faster cars but the Miata has been my favorite. Maybe stop bench racing. In a Miata you turn the wheel, drop the clutch, and you're spinning in place - you can steer with the throttle. What a feeling.
>>28862585i assume anon means vanilla for car enthusiasts
>>28867878who gives a shityou hate the feels argument because you never drove onefor the millionth time miatas make terrible performers unless you give it a turbo and aero then they go fast
>>28867921turbo ls swap your problems awayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0-UJLYGIZg
>>28867950a turbo ls miata is just a useless car, even with 200-250whp it feels seriously traction limited, remember they can't fit more than 225s without a tubbed rear and the short wheelbase makes it snappyits like a 1970s japanese car like a datsun or even a pinto/vega/monza with a 6-700hp+ rotary/v8/2jz
Huge volumes of ink have been spilled over how the Miata is perfectly a Miata or whatever, and they're fine to drive, but I've never been that impressed. Part of the Miata thing is keeping the torque low enough that it doesn't affect the handling of the car very noticeably unless you're really trying, so it feels kind of... tranquilized? I just can't get to where I'm like "yeah, I have to have this!".But a lot of people bought them as a compromise car when they really wanted a bigger or flashier convertible, and found out in the process what a sports car is, which is kind of cool. It's sort of like people buying a Civic thinking they're getting life's consolation prize and finding out what an entry-level driver's car is like. In both cases they become fanatically attached to the brand, which I don't get, but to each their own. Also the grassroots motorsports people figured out what they are immediately so if you want to do that kind of thing they're a natural choice. If I wanted to do club racing, I'd be hauling a used spec Miata around, but I have too many hobbies already.
>>28867861>Whereas the Miata is more LGBT than SubaruThis is true, but only because Subarus are largely lesbian cars. Miatas appeal to the Ls, the Bs, the Gs, and the Ts.
>>28861046It was a starter car for a lot of people :^|
>>28867921>muh feelsTruly is a car for snowflakes.
>>28868339Pretty much this miata or honda fit for my scca midlife crisis hobby
>>28868565Yeah, or maybe a Fiesta. Youtoob keeps trying to convince me to try rally, but while it looks like an enormous amount of fun, it also looks like a lot of planning to set a lot of money on fire.
>>28868388its so pure
>>28861669>>28861750You're right. Don't mind the autistic weirdos that live their life by the opinions of others like these actual losers >>28863224 >>28861666
>>28861054Oh sure when women buy something cute it's fine, but when I buy something cute I'm a "human trafficker". Fucking retards, humans can't be traffic because they're not cars.
>>28867862>vert
>>28868653autism
>>28869005You're on the primo autistmo website on a board about people obsessed with machines.Expect Autism.
>>28861307>we have a kid now so it's not really feasible until he stops needing a car seatCar seat won't fit?
>>28861286nigger
>>28869503Oh no! I upset the homosexual...
>>28869605The homosexual gag is so fresh
When millenials were in their early 20s first gens were sub $5k in good condition and they're an absolute pleasure to drive. Anyone interested in cars had a friend with a miata or was the friend with a miata.
>>28870519Theres actual statistics to back it up.Its like "this guy has AIDS so statistically theres an 80% chance hes gay"
>>28870968your moms gay that's why you're adopted
