what are some good vehicles to have when fuel inevitably reaches $18 a gallon? hard mode: no electric faggotry
What's wrong with buying a hybrid? If you're looking at buying emaciated boring econoboxes you might as well get something with more torque and runs smoother
Older Civic HX or a CRX HF, 5 speed Honda Insight, 8th/9th gen Corolla with a 5 speed, Geo Metro with a 5 speed if you can find an XFi.
>>28868345Alternatively, you could go with a Golf/Jetta TDI, 1.9 and preferably pre 2007.
Mopeds
>>28868351was thinking about picking up a honda grom
>>28868333your choice of honda minimoto
Bus pass.
>>28868368Groms are cool bikes, navis are stupid cheap if you want a scooter-bike for around town.
Manual EG civic hatchLiterally any motorcycle Manual CRXManual Corolla Don't buy hybrid, don't buy German, don't buy the thing with a turbo. All of that shit will break as all things do and you will be forked with the bill and if it's what I listed itll be expensive as hell. My suggestions are all cheap to maintain, easy to fix, stupid high mpg, and still relatively practical to live with. Don't be retarded, be smart.
>>28868333I've heard retards are usually happy. OP must smile, all day long.
I could see diesel variants of these rising in value again like in the 2000s when people used to convert them to run off waste oil. After inflation fuel prices would have to get up to $8-10/gal to match that period, which doesn’t really seem feasible considering how high our current production is, unless iran starts bombing our refineries or something with their non-existent icbms
>>28868340Hybrids are the worst of both worlds, unless you exclusively do city driving or it's a plug-in and only do short trips. You're adding additional weight and complexity only to ultimately get your energy from gasoline anyway, so it's actually less efficient unless you're making heavy use of the regenerative braking or you're able to plug in and charge it every 30 miles (i.e. overnight, at home because you've only gone to the store and back)I never understood why they were offered in the first place when range extender EV's are better in every way because you have your little generator operating at constant load in the most efficient RPM band.If you want the correct answer for best buy for efficiency, get some little Euro econo-hatchback with a small diesel engine (yes *that* emissions scandal). The VAG 1.6L or 2.0L TDI (Golf, A3, Leon, Fabia) for example can hit on road efficiency well in excess of 60 US MPG. I have had 75 UK MPG on 100 mile trips where i'm mostly motorway cruising at ~60 mph.
>>28868467>unless you're making heavy use of the regenerative braking or you're able to plug in and charge it every 30 miles (i.e. overnight, at home because you've only gone to the store and back)To be fair that is one of the main selling points for PHEVs, most people don’t drive more than 30 miles total in their daily commutes making their fuel consumption practically non existent and there’s still a normal engine there for long trips
>>28868467>Hybrids are the worst of both worldsOpposite.EVs are better at start-stop, ICE is more efficient at speed. Hybrids make the most sense.
>>28868481You literally just described why hybrid is worse than both though, which is what my post is saying. EV is better for cities, ICE (specifically diesel) is better for long haul. Hybrid is a lame middleground which is mediocre for both unless you're a taxi driver in new york or some shit where you're driving 100 miles in stop-start conditions. With a hybrid either you're lugging a bunch of extra weight on your long haul or you're adding unecessary mechanical complexity.If you're maxing efficiency, the most ideal situation right now is an EV then a rental ICE if you need to drive long distance.If you want to bring cost into it, the small diesel is king unless you only do long haul like once a quarter and you fuck the DPF by never getting the engine up to temp.
>>28868333Probably a sailboat
>>28868467My wife's yarris cross gets 55 mpg. I think it would be higher if the retards in my city could drive.
Vespa
>>28868333Honda cb125. 80kmpl.
>>28868467Never met someone with a hybrid that needed to charge
>>28868467You're a gay retarded boomerMy hybrid awd maverick is 3769lbs. The turbo variant is 200lbs less. On fuelly the average hybrid maverick gets 35-36mpg and the turbo ones average 23-24mpg. The weight difference doesn't outweigh the performance superiority of having electric power.The hybrid one is better to drive in almost every way, it's got instant torque with all power at the bottom instead of the top, which is great for a truck. Hybrid has less maintenance and complexity. The hybrid is more luxurious to drive (engine off or silent most of the time). There is virtually no reason at all to buy the turbo variant.
>>28868333a ford maverick with a 302 v8, a lawn mower carb, and a carb cheater>42 mpg
One that’s paid for and doesn’t cost too much to maintain. Speaking as someone from a country with high fuel prices, the difference between 20mpg and 30mpg isn’t much over a year. What is a big difference is not having a finance payment and running something that can be serviced and maintained for less money than a “economical” carIf you have something that costs $1-$2000 a year to keep in great condition but gets 30mpg it’s far better than something that does 50mpg but costs $7000 in payments, before you’ve even done any work on it
Honda cub
>>28868467You're so outright, confidently wrong it's really impressive.Hybrids get better MPG in all conditions, never need to be charged, and when cruising at highway speeds the motor does exactly what you describe by running in the optimal RPM range.
>>28868333get a scooter or some kei shitbox to complete the thirdie aesthetic
