>manual blackwing: 110k>manual hellcat: 60kwhy do people not just get the hellcat?
>>28873151People do get the Hellcat.
>>28873151The Cadillac is more luxurious and has more tech amenities. When new, a 2023 Challenger Hellcat was $72k. A 2023 CT-5V Blackwing was $92k.In current year, a 6k mile manual 2023 hellcat is $70k. And a 2019 60k miles manual hellcat is $46k.A 2023 manual Blackwing with 16k miles is 83k.
people who buy hellcats only want straight line acceleration so they don't want to be kneecapped by a manual transmissionpeople who buy cadillacs are rich and think having a manual will give it better resale
>>28873165>luxuriousyou've never been inside a CT5, right...>techyeah, a person looking for a manual is certainly looking for more driving nanniesOnly tech noteworthy on the Cadi is the magnaride suspension. I wish the hellcat had something similar, but it has an electronically adjustable pre-tensioner that increases the stiffness without changing the ride height. Both are great cars, though, and suffer from the same issues:-tough grip off the hole-super tall first gear that is hard to drive slow with-coveted, envied and high insurance-typical american econo interior finish
>>28873185The Blackwing is definitely more luxurious than the Hellcat. Stop coping.>techI mean things like 360 cameras and top down view parking.
>>28873196
>>28873151only black pipo buy hellcats
>>28873196>>28873200Not great, not terrible. Again, both have your typical American interior quality.
>>28873151Both of these cars are for niggers.
>>28873249I like my Challenger interior, I've got the laguna leather. It's nice. I'm not bias against it. But the Caddy definitely is more luxurious. We're not comparing it to an S-Class here.
OP is giving off strong bustier vibes.
>American cars
>>28873267Busrider*
The blackwing can turn and handle. It's the American M3 but far more comfortable. Hellcat is only for red light races, the caddy is a comfortable and fun Swiss army knife
>>28873271Yes, the Blackwing handles better than the Hellcat. But the Hellcat (and Challenger in general) handles far better than people realize.
>>28873273I've driven a Hellcat on track and on a Autocross course They absolutely do not handle well at all.And that was on 200tw tires.Imagine how bad it would be on the factory 340tw summer tires.
>>28873151They do and in droves.
>>28873273Maybe better than your fucking truck>gawd dayum this Chally grounded to da ground huwhat a musheeen!
>>28873273Agreed. They are not incompetent. I've driven both... My honest take is that the Cadi isn't refined enough to hold its premium, and used Hellcats are basically an unbeatable bargain at the moment. You get way more fun per dollar getting a Hellcat these days.
>>28873341>>28873356"Handle well" is a nebulous term. These are the results for 2018's C&D lightning lap. Done on Virginia International Raceway, grand course.
I bet cuckerborg's Blackwang in automatic.
>>28873364For comparison, the '22 Blackwing time was 2:49.4, the '25 Blackwing time was 2:47.9.
>>28873364>VIR >power track.>Hellcat still 22 seconds off pace Brutal MOG
>>28873387You're trying too hard.
>>28873236slo down, raycis scum, they buy caddys and hellcats, you in the wrong thread boi
>>28873357>Cadi isn't refined enough to hold its premiumDespite not being AWD and still having a manual transmission, it beats the M5. not only will it hold its value better than any of the euro slop, it is basically the sports sedan perfected and this is as good as ICE sedans will get.like >>28873387 also suggested, these cars aren't even in the same plane of existence. it's like comparing a Ferrari to a mustang and pretending they're anything alike. If you've driven both and somehow didn't feel the 20 second gap the blackwing is capable of giving on the hellcat you must be completely incapable of driving at all and don't deserve the caddy because you can't appreciate it. this whole thread feels like bait.
>>28873396>20 second gap the blackwing is capable of giving on the hellcatIt's not.
>>28873396More specifically the "pace" car he referred to is a $330k (in 2018) purpose built track car, Porsche 911 GT2 RS Weissach. Not a Blackwing.
>>28873196>360 cameras and top down viewDude… my buddy’s 2015 Audi S6 has this… decade old tech. Does the challenger not have this?
>>28873396This anon is a real 1 who knows.Although, to our benefit the 2nd hand will depreciate if this sentiment continues. Theres a reason cadillac is going all out in Formula 1.
>>28873578>my buddy's Does your car?
>>28873151Because people who actually buys cars cares more about the car than just the numbers on the brochure.
cadillac is for rich patriotshellcat is for cashed up rednecks
>>28873151Because hellcats are nigger sideshow cars
>>28873151manual challenger is a muscle car.manual blackwing is a sports sedan.totally different cars.
one has 4 doors the other has 2 doors
>>28873151Because the Hellcat looks like something a gay nigger would buy to camouflage himself, while the Blackwing looks like something that could actually do pimpmobile duty
>>28873151>why do people not just get the hellcat?The type of creature that buys a hellcat is hardly a "person"
>>28874199Honestly the CT5-V is too understated. It's a supercharged monster. It's looks should reflect that.Say what you will about the Challenger but it's unapologetically aggressive and in your face, even ominous When you see one rip it, V8 screaming it all lines up
>>28874292Brown mindset.
>>28874318Low test mindset. Do you even lift?
>>28874292Cadillacs don't need to insist apon itself, they don't need to upsell themselves. They are rugged elegance, a quiet confidence that simply just is.When a challenger pulls up, you aren't really taking it seriously even with a gangsta with a Draco riding shotgun. When a cadillac pulls up, you immediately think of the mob (or at least someone with a suit) with a shovel in the trunk. Tldr Challengers are for crashouts and Caddys are for those who took the cash route.
>>28874366>When a cadillac pulls up, you immediately think of the mob (or at least someone with a suit) with a shovel in the trunk.Hell no. What kind of infantile fantasy is this shit. They are unremarkable and have no road presence and blend in with traffic. People don't remark on them or stare.
>>28874356LMAO this insecure male needs to show off again
>>28873151chally has doublebones, making it better
>>28874397Yeah bud, being skinnyfat soiboy is the way to be.
>>28874366> When a cadillac pulls up, you immediately think of the mobMaybe like 50 years agoNow i just think it's some boomer who feels like he needs to "buy american" over the more competitive german offerings
>>28873151They're both for black or indigenous criminals of color *shrug nigmoji*
>>28874292This gentleman gets it.The insecurity of some /o/ dwellers is beyond measure - it’s like not eating fried chicken because it’s a “black people’s thing”. Have you tried fried chicken? It’s delicious - and so is ripping a fat smokey burnout on Hellcat/CT5BW.You don’t have to give up on your racism to enjoy a nice super charged V8, you idiots, but life would smile at you if you did.
>>28874366>you immediately think of the mob (or at least someone with a suit) with a shovel in the trunkdefinitely not in a modern cadillac
>>28874605Oh yeah? Yet the bad guys still drive murdered out escalades and blackwings. >>28874378Maybe if you're blind, deaf, and retarded which wouldn't be suprising from you>infantile fantasyLiterally everyone associates a criminal with a cadillac. Unless you're a YN then that goes to the hellcat.>>28874512Because young people rarely buy brand new cars anon let alone halo models. >more competitive Germz And they have half of the reliability and twice the repair bill
>>28874729>t. 17 year old
>>28874729>Yet the bad guys still drive murdered out escalades and blackwingsyeah because they're trying to show how big and scary they are. the mob boss doesn't give a shit. he doesn't need to. everyone already knows who he is before he even steps in the room.
>>28874753Comatose response from a sheltered moron.>>28875153>Quick getaway cars with intimidating looksThanks for proving my point retard.
>>28875392mob boss don't need to get away when he has the mayor and the cops on his payroll
>>28875392>fantasizing about heckin MOBSTERS with heckin SHOVELS IN THE TRUNK>not sheltered as fucklol
>>28873196I miss when they had analog clocks on the dash
>>28875396You're 12>>28875397You've never seen a movie made past 2014 and it shows. NiggerFaggot
why doesnt cadillac have a maybach style brand where they give you a long wheelbase variant? they could bring back the fleetwood brougham.
>not a gangster>not a PoC>enjoys a Hellcat
>>28875659>u haven't seen enough movies to know what IRL is like!LOL
>>28875684They have the Celestiq which starts at over $400k.
>>28876012This car would be so beautiful if the rear end didn't look like a fucking kia stinger.
>>28876014It doesn't.
>>28875811"check it out dude there's plenty of space back here to suck each other's cocks!"
>>28876012ew