Even Toyobaru is more similar to Mustang than this "Mustang". I doubt if there was any good looking car in the 80's other than Ferraris. Such an ugly decade.
>>28877485we're going to kill you.
>>28877485Obvious bait is obvious
>>28877485mustang never had a set design before sn197 ate some 'member berries and made mustang a perpetual 60s throwback, before that it had some persistent elements like the triple taillights but took on a new face every gensame with camaroimagine, though, a world where the throwbacks also changed with the generations and restylings and current models were referencing foxbody and turdgen resepctively
>>28877607the mustang was literally an internal war in ford because some dork commie designed the falcon around being a cheap under-acheiver car and another man in a suit said fuck you we're building a v8 sports car using your platform.they did the exact same formula with the pinto but boomers didn't like it because it didn't look as aggressive as the first gen.they did the same thing on the fox platform.every single mustang untill the s197 was just ford taking the cheapest unibody platform economy car they had and throwing a v8 in it, that was the charm of it.retromodels are a fucking cancer, the last gen camaro before the 2000s one was better aesthetically in every single way and if you disagree I will humbly instruct you how to kill yourself for free.
>>28877637the mustang was the least worst offender of the 2000s retrotrendcamaro, challenger, pt cruiser, ssr all far worse, ditto gto for using the nameplate when it would've been better off as a buick
looks good to me
>>28877648Sick supra
>>28877678
>>28877637the thing is that by the time sn197 rolled in, they didn't have a cheap under-achiever rwd car in the lineup anymore, so they had to carve it out of sn95 guts and gen 1 glory. it's baisically same story as toyobaru except toyota didn't even have a continious lineage going so they had to carve it out of a stolen impreza and a shitty manga.
>>28877648>>28877637specifically meant the 98 looks better than the 06 camaro
>>28877485At the time the Fox Mustang was considered more of a Mustang than the prior Mustang II's which were never really accepted as Mustangs. Nobody had really been happy with the Mustang since 1970 and the 79's were looked on as a welcome return-to-form despite the car not having any design cues beyond the weak nod to the triple tail lights
>>28877607>mustang never had a set design before sn197 ate some 'member berries and made mustang a perpetual 60s throwback,5:33>The car with or without badging had to say Mustang, it was really important to them. They wanted to see some of the retro if you will, retro cues from the earlier cars. And along that line things that we found were really important to them and that we wanted to stay with. They wanted the chrome pony in the front of the car, they wanted the horse back on the car in a prominent position. They wanted a 3 element tail light, they wanted us to take a look at the side of the car and find out whether or not we could put the character back in the side of the car, the chamfer if you will the reverse C in the side of the car. So we looked at that, we looked at the cockpit of the car versus some earlier models and we wanted kind of a dual cockpit feeling. We wanted a long front and shorter rear in terms of your perception of the car as you looked at it and we sort of took those basics and we think we executed right along the they're looking for. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtMSTv10FsE [Embed]The only Mustang not to have these set design elements is the Foxbody. The SN95 set the wheels in motion for the S197 outright retro design. Ford heavily played on the retro styling cues back in the '90s in ads. >>28877637>every single mustang untill the s197 was just ford taking the cheapest unibody platformWhat other rwd unibody platform did Ford have other than the DC2 at the time? They used the cheapest available option and redesigned the platform to be cheaper to produce. >>28877925At the time the Fox Mustang was considered more of a Mustang than the prior Mustang II's which were never really accepted as Mustangs. The sales disagree with you, the sold similar #'s to foxes the first 5 years. More people thought the fox was less a Mustang because of the non-mustang styling. https://www.cjponyparts.com/resources/mustang-sales-throughout-years
>>28877961Even Foxbody kinda got the 3-slot lights eventually. And it does have a long hood, it's especially evident in notchbacks.
>>28877485It was sometime in the early '10s when my mind stopped seeing this era of car as fuck ugly and now I see the most basic economy box and think, "nice".Initial D may have something to do with this.
>>28877961>What other rwd unibody platform did Ford havethat's their fault for not fucking having anythingwith jews you lose.
starion
>>28877485gawd, fox bodies are so ugly. a dark time indeed
For me its the Mustang II with the landau top, gorgeous
>>28877607Best Gen
>>28878687
>>28878687be quiet you fucking neurotyp jew golem
>>28878027Only aero facelift GTs got the cheese graters, notches and LX hatches had better looking lights IMO. But the point I was making was the foxbody was a more teutonic design in and out and the SN95 was a return to the 1st and 2nd gen core design elements. >>28878112At least Ford had a Pony car ready for '05 unlike GM or Chrysler's pathetic assess.
>>28878754>notches and LX hatches had better looking lights IMOYou and everybody else. For a long time it was common for GT owners to steal LX taillight lenses. Or at least cause them to be stolen. The lenses can be pulled off by hand since they're only held on by some clips and a bit of sealant.
>>28878950>You and everybody else. For a long time it was common for GT owners to steal LX taillight lensesLiterally.And trying to get replacements from the junkyard was impossible even 20 years ago bevause some beaner just walked around every day as soon as they opened and popped off the lenses for his brothers body shop.
the fact that this abomination as well as the sn95 abomination were called "mustangs" is a travesty
>>28879058You seem to miss what the Mustang was.The original advitersiments L I T E R A L L Y targeted secretaries.
>>28878754>At least Ford had a Pony car ready for '05 unlike GM or Chrysler's pathetic assess.LX bodies were in development since at least 1999Chrysler was making a whole new platform with new engines, Ford as typical was just recycling '70s shit until they could no longer get away with it.
>>28879074>1967 promotional giveaway>doesn't mention secretaries>hurr original advertisementSurely you'll post one of these ads.
>>28879107>LX bodies were in development since at least 1999This is just cope, the S197 started development in '99 too. It also has nothing to do with the Camaro and Challenger being years late to the party, again. >Ford as typical was just recycling '70s shit until they could no longer get away with it.The Challenger was a joke by the '80s when they were turned into gay ass rebadged imports then disappeared into the wind like a fart. The F-bodies presented no threat after '02. Your logic makes no sense, the S197 was in development since the New Edge facelift on the SN95 then announced in January of '03 just months after the f-bodies demise. There was no cross town competition that forced Ford into a new platform. They already had plans to modernize the Mustang for the next gen.
>>28877485Here's the better Mustang
>>28879058die
>>28879124>This is just cope, the S197 started development in '99 too.the s197 is just an sn95 with an even uglier body on it
>>28879124>The Challenger was a joke by the '80s when they were turned into gay ass rebadged imports then disappeared into the wind like a fart. The F-bodies presented no threat after '02. Your logic makes no sense,what are you fucking talking about faggotthe fox platform on which the sn95 and 197 are ultimately a derivative of dates back to the fucking '70s. it's a panhard live rear axle floppity reverse-ackermann piece of shit that has no business being underneath a pickup truck much less a sports car
>>28879111@10 seconds.1966>mustang is everything you could ask for on a secretary's salaryhttps://youtu.be/i3hBjfFySck?si=RCYkAnZKfV6nez3M
>>28879111print ads may not have specifically mentioned it outright, but carroll shelby's opinion of it being a secretary's car was common at the time.
>>28879165Ive seen the secretary print ads.They even had some lil old lady secretary come up on stage when they debuted the Mustang II to emphasize how they were "returning to its roots" after the bloat of the 71-73s and she was so happy because "they brought back her little car" (she said something to that effect).
>>28879158Turned on closed captioning and grabbed a screen shot for those that dont want to click a random YouTube link.
>>28879137Better at not being made anymore?>>28879146Aside from being on a modified DEW98 platform instead of the SN95, sure little guy. >>28879148>the fox platform on which the sn95 and 197 are ultimately a derivative of dates back to the fucking '70s.Saying the same thing twice doesn't make it true Anon, the SN95 is a modified fox platform, the S197 is a modified DEW98. They are not the same and have completely different suspensions front and rear with 0 interchangeable parts.
>>28879198Better to be not made anymore than become gay
hehehe
>>28879426>fagwheeldrive jap car>less gay in any waySurely you jest Anon.
>>28879753You don't even own a car
>>28879137>probe not allowed to be better than mustang>fiero not allowed to be better than corvettecrimes against automotive industry
>>28879107the LX platform is not a pony car. neither is the modern LC/LA challenger
>>28879869I currently have 3 and have owned many more over the years, but ok. You still haven't clarified how a reskinned Mazda 626 coupe is less gay than a RWD V8 pony car. >>28879876>probe now allowed to be betterWhat engine did Mazda have that was better than a 302 that would fit in a FWD platform? The ZE version of the KL that wouldn't pass U.S. emissions? Even with that it would've been slower and still failwheeldrive.
>>28880118>failwheeldriveTrying too hard /n/igger
>>28880126>0 rebuttal>is mad I don't like fwdTry harder Anon, you're better than that. I'll bread any 3 of my cars after you post yours btw.
>>28879731What's that, a fox body LTD?Someone should put the facelift mustang front on an LTD wagon.
>>28880118>What engine did Mazda havegee, i wonder
>>28880139I got you Anon. >>28880141Was that offered at the same time as the 1st or 2nd gen Probe? Or did Mazda stop offering FWD rotaries in 1972?
>>28880137>I'll bread any 3 of my cars after you post yours btwPffft, yeah, sure.
>>28880141>dorito probeWhat a scary thought.
>>28880160Already did the 2 in the garage in case you actually responded with your car. I'm ready whenever you are Anon.
>>28880118Ford could've made a FWD 302. Chevy did it for the 5.3L LS
>>28877643zoomers continue to astound with their utterly abhorrent tastenow please try and convince the class how the A80 Supra and R34 are the best cars ever made
>>28877678turd gen predates the A70
>>28880502>could've made a FWD....Chevy did itHow'd that work out btw?
>>28880502Ford already made a FWD V8 many years prior, the Intech powered Continental was introduced while the 2nd gen probe was being made. But I was talking about how the Probe is a Mazda, and how Mazda didn't have a FWD engine to compete with the 302.
>>28880731it contributed to some of the greatest kino of all time, so pretty well I'd say
>>28877485Tits or GTFO.
>>28877485
>>28877678that bitch looks fucked up
>>28881325At least this gen Regal could still be optioned with a V8 if you preferred and was RWD. The next gen fucked everything up.
>>28881440Eww gross.>look at this soap bar that heralded the death of automotive designYou somehow missed your date with the firing squad.
>>28877485944 turbo is peak kino you straightoid
>>28880526all the best builds I've seen were all done on a shoestring budget by a zoomer. Oldfags howevver will post their miata and jerkoff its 130hp mircopenis off openly
>>28881519Cervini.com
>>28881537what did they mean by this?
>>28881519That thing looks like Jay Leno with the GT front bumper and without the rest of the body kit to match.
>>28880153Looks like a knock off xe falcon
>>28879158>>28879187>1966>years after the mustang was releasedSo not >>28879074>The original advitersiments(sic)Like was being claimed?>>28879165Opinion ≠Advertisement, how did you come up with such wild conjecture?Here's the first ad from 1964 from the worlds fair. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUJAOyB69DAHere's the rest of the 1964 ads, not a single one mentions secretaries. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMdKwCiacs4&t=227s>>28879183>i've seen them>doesn't post one>insane story about the 1972 New York auto show like he was therePic related.
>>28885912>such wild conjecturecarroll shelby thought it was a girl's car though. dunno how that's wild
>>28885912Holy fuck dude.So much butthurt.Ive owned more mustangs than you have and even ill admit it was originally marketed to working women.I currently own 3, including a 1964 1/2 (yes theyre different than a '65) thats been in the family since it left the lot.The first time a Mustang was featured in a movie was Goldfinger (1964) driven by a female villain.
This is the best looking Foxbody.
Pic is one of the adverts from the original ad campaign in 1964.>In 1964, Tiffany & Co. honored the Ford Mustang with its Award for Excellence in American Design. This was a significant moment, as it was the first time the luxury jeweler had ever honored an automobile
>>28885974Ok?
>>28885975Do you think Mustang + Tiffany & Co is targeting construction workers?
>>28886012No?
>>28885951It's wild to conflate a single persons opinion to advertisements made for the public or public sentiment as a whole. >>28885961>still doesn't post an ad backing up his claim>claims to have mustangs>doesn't post an ad or his mustang>y-y-you're madI'm not sure how pointing out a false claim makes me mad. >>28885974>moving goalposts from secretaries >b-b-but, this tiffany's awardThis is just getting sad.
>>28879137>>28879876None of the FWD sports coupes of the 1980s and 90s are around today, except for the Prelude. If the Probe surpassed the Mustang, it's possible neither would survive as the market shifted
>>28877502>mccormick place with the big windows looking out over the lakeThat takes me back, man>dad always used to take us to the chicago autoshow every february>brothers and I would compete to see who got the most pamphlets and swag from the vendors>sit in just about everything>when we were young enough, the vendors would let us sit in some of the roped off cars like the new, 2nd gen Viper>jeep would bring this 45 degree hill and park you halfway up and down in a driving demonstration>brother got us all marlboro-mitsubishi hats because he told the vendor guy he beat my subaru in gran turismo 3 with tomi's Evo and then mom yelled at dad for letting us wearing cigarette hats to school>massive hot rod section with everything from air brushed lowriders, chopped rat rods, drag cars with huge air scoops, and decaled tuner cars>just a massive, sprawling show that took up both halls of the largest convention space in the hemisphereWent back last month and the show was drastically smaller. One of the workers said that attendance has fallen off since nobody but old people with home equity are buying new cars anymore. It was still nice, but it was the type of trip where I drove home with no radio or music in the car. Where does the time go, anons?
>>28886060>post first gen advertising with lipstick and jewelery>omg it's totally not targeting wonen... the advertisements with women and the things women covet is totally a pysop to get men to buy these cars!!!What a fucking retard.
>>28877485Try getting a GT instead of a Ghia, ya homo.
>>28879074>The original advitersiments L I T E R A L L Y targeted secretaries.>>28886374>b-b-but lipstick and jewelryWhat a fucking retard indeed.
>>28886724You've been schooled so hard that I think you had a brain aneurysm.Or were you born retarded?I just feel bad beating you down at this point. It might even be considered a hate crime to do this to someone thats mentally challenged like yourself.Go ahead and explain to the class how "on a secretary's salary" isnt targeting sercretaries.
maybe hairdressers cars are just betterhow about that you fat faggot?
>>28886809Are you talking about >>28879158 ? Did you not see >>28885912 where I already pointed out that was 2 years later and posted all the original '64 ads? What sort of 'literal' retard cope is this?
>>288868721964 ad with the wife driving, dropping off husband at workhttps://youtu.be/1NPOkxs2rTk?si=MHD092XuK_u_etxNIts been marketed to housewives, secretaries and debutantes since day 1.>dur hur they didnt specifically use the word "secretary" in the ad that was aired 2 days after the New York auto show premier.What do you think women did for a living in the 60s?Engineers?Plumbers?You've been BTFO and youre trying to bullshit your way out of being a loser (and failing miserably).Everyone sees it, including yourself.Get over it.You lost.Go cry in some.Miata thread, faggot.
>>28877485>. I doubt if there was any good looking car in the 80's other than Ferrarissubhuman taste discarded
>>28887020What's wrong with thinking older ones look better?
>>28886995>wall of cope over misusing literally>multiple other cope posts about ads from 2 years later, tiffany's and women dropping off their husband's>implying I'm the one making a fool out of themselfThis is next level schizo gaslighting.
>>28877485>I doubt if there was any good looking car in the 80's other than Ferraris.What a ridiculous thing to say, there were many great looking cars in the '80s of almost all types.
>>28887054>first gen commercial LITERALLY used the word secretary>b-b-but that doesnt count because it wasnt the first commercial ever aired!!!Youre a fucking idiot.You've been BTFO.
>>28887072>first gen commercial LITERALLY used the word secretaryIs not the same as>The original advitersiments L I T E R A L L Y targeted secretaries.You're been coping ever since you posted an ad from '66 instead of '64. It's insane the mental gymnastics you're going through. Instead of just admitting your mistake you've brought up lipstick, jewelry, tiffany's and women dropping their husband off at work all in vain attempts distract from your 'literal' retardation.
if i may interject? there's nothing wrong with driving a "chick" car
>>28887482They targeted young working women.Once again, what do you think they did for a living?
>>28885970come on nowI mean as cool as they were, the SVO is pretty homely.
>>28888111can't argue with quadtrips
>>28885970Nice Escort, bro.
>>28885970That's debatable.
>>28885970Wrong.
>>28888632YWNBAC
>>28887482
>>28888638Sorry I don't speak newfag
>>28886060>It's wild to conflate a single persons opinion to advertisements made for the public or public sentiment as a whole.but i already said it was a common sentiment at the time.
>>28888643You Will Never Be A Classic.
>>28888598muh dick
>>28888664kek i thought it was car
>>28887874If the women they were targeting worked why was she dropping her husband off at work like the ad you posted earlier? >>28886995>>28888641>absolutely seethingCan we revisit >>28879111 And you just post one of the "original advitersiments L I T E R A L L Y targeted secretaries." instead of making implications as a new form of cope. >>28888645No you didn't, you just parroted somebody else's opinion twice and omitted the fact he was talking about the base I6 Mustang. >>28879165>print ads may not have specifically mentioned it outright, but carroll shelby's opinion of it being a secretary's car was common at the time.>>28885951>carroll shelby thought it was a girl's car though. dunno how that's wild>>28888712Here's another.
>>28889555>No you didn'tuhh yeah i did...>>28879165 and >>28885951 are both me lol
>>28889555>>28889584Who gives a FUCK?
>>28889584You said print ads didn't mention it outright then parroted Shelby's opinion about the base car twice. Where did you supposedly say it was common sentiment in those two posts?>>28889588Some people just can't admit they're wrong Anon.
>>28889595did you not read the latter half of my first post you quoted where i said it was a common sentiment at the time?
>>28886312>brother got us all marlboro-mitsubishi hatsManufacturers don't give out freebees at shows much anymore either.
>>28877485obvious bait, but I wanted to post this anyway.
>>28888632>FairmontTHE LEGEND!
>>28889993Too bad it's a sedan. 2 door box-top Fairmonts are sexy AF when done right. The Futura's can even be made to look pretty mean.
>>28877485>Fairmont FuturaFTFY
>>28877925That's because the prior generation of Mustang (1974-78) was a Ford Pinto in fancy dress.
>>28890056Vs the Fairmont in fancy dress (?)
>>28890035>>28890052>>28890108DangApparently more of us get boners for the Fairmont than I had thought.Windsor 302 was an option in 78 and 79
>>28889616You tried to attribute a single man's opinion of the base car to a public that bought more Mustangs in that same year than any car has sold in its first year, you're also excluding the V8 outsold the I6 by far in '65. So it's seemingly far fetched that his opinion was public sentiment considering the 500k + units moved, the majority being V8s.
>>28890179They're way cooler than any mustang. Dad had a 79 2 door box top with a 302 when I was a kid in the mid 90's. A few years ago I passed on a 2 door box top zephyr simply because I had too many projects on the go. Kicking my ass now because they've basically become unobtanium. They're either all completely fucked or have been turned into drag cars.
>>28890179I love Foxbodys, but I like mustangs the least.
>>28890182touché
>>28888598That's not even the best looking Capri
>>28890594Capri Mk3. If you hear of the new Ford Capri SUV this is what everyone associates with that name.
>>28889993>>28890035>Too bad it's a sedan.That's where you're wrong bucko.Matter of taste I know, but I personally prefer the sedan and specifically sought one. Same wheelbase as the 2dr by the way.It's getting a built 302 and a TKX installed, 8.8 rear with LSD, and a full suspension overhaul. It's going to become my summer cruiser.
>>28890617leaving the column shifter in place for the swap?
>>28890629Nah, I'm going to grab a repro Mustang column from LMR and paint it to match to cover the hole. Will be replacing the steering shaft and installing a flaming river rack at the same time. Just decided to go all in.I've also got a new old stock 6 gauge bezel for an 91 Capri Turbo that I'm going to install with a Dakota Digital or NVU gauge cluster so I get a proper tach and keep a "factory" look.
>>28890617>Factory A/C and cruise controlNice brother!!When you have time, perhaps start a thread on the car.There's a lot of Fairmont/Zephyr fans here, perhaps even Granadas too!
