I moved from a state with no emissions testing to a county in Utah which is very strict about it several months ago. Trying to follow the law and get my car registered here but I need to pass an emissions test to do so. I drive a bone stock Integra which should have no problem passing a tailpipe test, but unfortunately for me I'm running an OBD1 94' drivetrain and ECU in a 98' chassis, and the vehicle is registered as a 98'. This means I have to somehow comply with OBD2 emissions scanning without physically having an OBD2 ECU or OBD2 port in my car. If they can't scan the car it automatically fails and apparently they have to mark that in the system which then notifies the state.I've read about OBD2 emulators which spoof passing emissions testing results to a smog computer, but I can't actually find them anywhere. The closest thing I can find is "man in the middle" dongles on aliexpress which just filter non-passing codes into passing codes. Since I don't have an OBD2 ECU this is basically useless for me.Any of you had a similar issue or found a workaround? Really trying not to source and swap all my wiring to OBD2, especially since I'm intending on upgrading to a standalone ECU for some modifications in a few months anyway.pic rel is my Integra
One optionLook if there is an option to change registration of the car around the engine so that in only needs to comply with obd1 stuff.
>>28881763I actually have the OBD1 dashboard (with the VIN plate) in the car, so at a glance it would appear to be a 94. I believe my dad scrapped the 94' shell though and handed in the 94' title when he did, so I probably couldn't go through the sort of sketchy backdoor channels of saying "oh yeah I just bought another integra". I would be surprised if the state had any way of reverting or exempting the registration but I suppose it's worth looking into.
>>28881747>"Trying to follow the law">Asking for ways to fool emmisions testing machine>trying not to source and swap all my wiring to OBD2>I'm running an OBD1 94' drivetrain and ECU in a 98'>I actually have the OBD1 dashboard (with the VIN plate) in the carBullshit story.The "dash" VIN plate is riveted onto the cowl portion of the chassis that the dash attaches to. Its not removable. It also uses special rosette rivets that aren't available to the general public btw.Youre running a '94 registered as a '98.Either stolen or major issues with title.
>>28881871I would like to add that the integra in OPs picture has a pre-98 bumper cover. the 98+ bumper cover that would match OPs car as he's portrayed in his story has different scoop shape for the headlight pockets. Nobody would go through the effort to change the wiring, ecu, dashboard and front bumper cover to a newer car from an older car.
>>28881747I looked it up for you they'll either tell you to put in 98 parts or tell you to get a new car. Using older car parts is a big no no. Time for a new ecu and drivetrain buddy
>>28881880>Nobody would go through the effort to change the wiring, ecu, dashboard and front bumper cover to a newer car from an older car.Weeboids do this all the time though especially Honda fucks. But yea car was probably stolen, dudes in an apt complex so he's 100% mexi-melt and they love stealing
>>28881881no need for a new drivetrain lol. more than likely, his car does have a titling issue or stolen and recovered and VIN swapped. BUT, to match the car's electronics package to the year it is titled for calls for OBD2 harness, ECU, distributor, and alternator (3 wire vs 4 wire). AFAIK that's all he would need. The other option is a standalone ecu that supports OBD2 fault reporting. Haltech supports it because that's what's in my car. I think Link does also but i have no experience with that one. You can even input your cars VIN into the haltech so the scan will match what VIN you want to portray the car as.
OP, either your dad is a car thief and lied to you, or you're a car thief. Either way, your car is stolen as fuck and you shouldn't register it at all. I don't know how Utah does it, but down old New Mexico way, the MVD does VIN inspections for out-of-state title transfers. They're going to take one look at the VIN plate on the dash and see it doesn't match your title, at which point you'd be pointed toward the staters for a deeper VIN inspection. Assuming the car isn't stolen, you're still looking at an ordeal and maybe they'll issue you a 1994 title. Probably not though, because if the 1994 car was scrapped, you're looking at more problems. And given that your car is almost certainly stolen, you're probably going to be brought in for questioning and maybe you'll get charged with receiving stolen property, unless you give up your dad.
>>28881747Welp OP your dad got you a jacked whip time to rice it out and join the 24 hours of lemons.
>>28881747Your only real option here is to part it out. If you try to sell or scrap a stolen car then you are looking at jail time.
I almost wish we would have just told OP he could have had it inspected and a waiver issued. Would have been funny.But now he realizes how much he fucked up and is going to strip this chassis for parts and dump the shell out in the desert.Only 5 counties in Utah require emissions testing.Think they have a suspected stolen car hotline?Gotta be pretty easy to spot a 30 yearold Integra when the entire states population is 3.5 million.
>>28881776https://files.tax.utah.gov/tax/forms/current/tc-123.pdfthis is the utah form, might have to go through whatever state the old title was from, not sure how it works
>>28881747realistically I guess I would buy the obd2 connector, the 98 ecu and that chinese box and just wire the ecu for power and hide all of it in the glove box
OP is so fucked.No matter what he does the smog tech is going to look at the VIN under the windshield and the car will be flagged (yes theres an option for "incorrect/missing VIN" when doing a smog check).And the moron even took his stolen car to fucking Utah of all places. Even if he registers it through a friend back home and runs out-of-state plates thats something Utah cops love to target. It will only take a couple months before OP is in jail for GTA. Secondary degree felony and 1 year minimum / 15 years maximum prison with 6 being the average.
holy fuck this board is full of so many retarded redditors.
>>28882229it's almost seems like people on the automotive board don't actually modify their cars
>>28882248What does modifying a car have to do with dipshit OP trying to register a car he has zero paperwork for that might even be stolen?
>>28882262said.. no one. fucking redditor.
>>28882265You're on a Mongolian basket weaving thread, you're not any better.
>>28882262This entire problem exists because OPs car is heavily modified.
>>28882275Read the fucking thread.OP didnt modify jack shit.Hes running plates from a '98 (that he has paperwork for) on a '94 (that he doesnt have paperwork for).
>>28882275OP here my car is bone stock utah is just a communist state apparently.regarding some other comments in the thread: my dad owned the 94' from 30,000-150,000 miles until the bottom rusted out. I bought the 98' as a rolling shell with nothing in it and swapped over everything from the 94'. In retrospect I should have looked for a 94/95 chassis but I was new to cars and didn't know about OBD systems. here's a picture from when I was putting the 94' pre-facelift bumper on the 98' chassis (the 98' one was clapped and I like the look of the old one more. it's a direct bolt-up)I just re-upped my out of state registration for another few years. It might be an issue but I live near a military installment so there's lots of out of state plates here. I have some coworkers that ran/have been running out of state plates for several years without issue, although yes they're cracking down on it a bit more now. I will probably end up moving to an adjacent county that's less shitty, or just buying another newer car (because I want to anyway) and then actually heavily modifying the Integra
>>28881890Sounds like a good plan. What's the cheapest model that you could do that with? Asking for a friend.
>>28882294>bumper the same exact color as the car with the same amount of dust before he put it on.Youre lying your ass off about everything and dont have enough brain cells to pull it off.
>>28881871>It also uses special rosette rivets that aren't available to the general public btw.these ones? https://www.amazon.com/GTPARTES-Rosette-Rivets-Stainless-Steel/dp/B0B7VHY3ZZor do they look different from what's in that link?
>>28882306Close but not quite.Theyre different.Theyre not flat top, they have a downward curve and you cant install them with a commercial rivet gun because it will flatten them.Would a cop notice? Probably not.Would DMV inspector notice?Oh ya.
>>28882303>buying a shell the same stock color as your donor car is impossible and people never do thatcan't tell if you're actually retarded or just purposely pretending to be retardedhere's another picture of my car with the entire interior out of it as I was getting it running again
>>28882303>with the same amount of dust before he put it on.wut. same amount of dust as what?>>28882313ahh right. wouldn't be surprised if they have a lookup table or some book that goes into autistic detail about this sort of thing for every make and/or model.
>>28882318Tell us again how "I actually have the OBD1 dashboard (with the VIN plate) in the car"I live that part of the story.
>>28882339Personally I liked the part where OP fucked your mom.
>>28882334>same amount of dust as what?Same amoint of dust as the car it just came off of.>just doing a bumper swap bro. Ignore the fact the fender is also off.
>>28882275No one said anything about vin swapping or "running plates" from another car you fuckwit cunt. It's a 98 with 94 drivetrain not any more complicated than that.
>>28882354OP literally claimed he swapped the VIN with the dash.Which you cant do because by law that VIN plate is attached to a non-removable component.OP didnt know that and thats where his story falls apart.Because hes a lying douchebag.Try to keep up
>>28882379so fucking remove it or say the dash was swapped it's not that fucking serious holy fuckthis fucking busrider ass forum i swear
>>28882386>say the dash was swappedFucking moron.The dash VIN isnt attached to the "dash"The VIN plate is attached to the cowl and is not removable.The dash is attached to the cowl and if you remove the dash the VIN tag stays in place.If you use a donor to replace a crashed component that has a VIN (there are multiple VIN locations) you have to take paperwork for BOTH cars to be inspected.OP has pics of pulling body panels and a stripped interior while installing dynamat but notice he doesnt have any pics of a motor swap.Because....The '98 is gone and he thought he was slick by throwing his plates on a '94 because "lol, they basically look the same".Now that hes not in a flyover state hes fucked.
>>28882428Who gives a fuck just drill the plate off
>>28882459Op getting some big feelings
>>28882463I've got a big feeling for you*unzips pants*
>>28881747get a p.o. box in tooele and set your address to that p.o. box. register it there. i live in slc and did this.
>>28882345but he never took a pic of the 94 parts car he removed it from??
>>28882275You absolute moron, the car is stolen. This has nothing to do with modification. OP didn't drive train swap it. >>28882294>>28882318See>>28882591So you have all these pictures of the build process, but nothing of the 1994? You said your dad had the thing for 120,000 miles. He never took pictures? Not even of the rust?Your car is stolen, and the more you talk the more I think you're lying.
>>28882379here's a picture of an integra dashboard for sale on ebay with a vin plate attached to it, retard
>>28882669>>28882591>>28882428I really didn't think this was going to be rocket science for a board literally all about cars and their modifications, but you've all somehow compelled me to post enough content to "prove" that I actually work on my own vehicles. I have a hard drive full of 1,087 video files of nearly the entire build process which is 1.42TB of footage. The left is a still image of both Integras side by side the day I brought them home (left one is 94', right one is 98'). you'll notice the car on the trailer has a 98' rear bumper (which is now still on the car I now drive because I like the look of it more) and the left one has a pre-facelift front bumper (which I also like the look of more. astonishing right, someone who rebuilt his car has preferences about its appearance). the right image is from a video of my dad and I literally putting the 94' motor into the 98' rolling shell. you'll also notice we're in the same garage as the above images, and yes, the fenders are also off as shown above. and yes, astonishingly my 67 year old father who does not own a phone did not take photos of the car he was going to throw away.>>28882485has this never become a problem for you? I have a coworker who knows someone that got sent a letter shortly after registering their car at a friend's address asking for proof of residency. I guess the friend's address didn't match his other addresses.
>OP isn't a wrenchlet he knows his shit>Anon is a google ai fraud and the real wrenchlet Based redemption arc.
>>28882743i'm not accusing you of anything. i was just very confused by the other anon saying the bumper has a lot of dust "from the car [you] removed it from" but how would he know how much dust the parts car had, when you've never posted a pic of the parts car in the first place? unless by some pure stroke of luck he actually knows you irl and also browses this board, and is just fucking with you in this thread lol.
>>28882428I gotta ask...what is going on in your mind that makes you so confident in giving bad information as hard fact? The VIN is attached to the dash in Hondas, and nearly every car, since probably 1980.
>>28882313Last time I had my inspection done on my Mark III Supra moving it state to state she made sure the tail lights worked and the color was correct and looked at nothing else. These are government workers, you're assuming their IQ is over 70 and it's not. they train them based on some internet video.
>>28882743Okay, so OP didn't steal a car. However, he still has swapped an OBD I drivetrain into another car and will need a VIN inspection to re-register his car. That's probably going to entail finding the VIN etched into other parts of the car. Now, provided there is a solution to the OBD II problem, the Utah DMV may decide to view it as a defeat device.
>>28882743>I literally putting the 94' motor into the 98' rolling shell.Stop admitting criminal conduct on-line.
>>28883065Not OP, but it's not criminal conduct. Except maybe for dumb federal emissions laws, but at this stage the cars are both exempt and have been for some time. Probably would have been smart to swap the VIN plate.
>>28883074>the cars are both exemptCars never become exempt from Federal emissions laws.
>>28883103Vehicles 21 years or older are exempt from EPA standards. 25 and older are exempt from NHTSA and DOT standards.
>>28882296the cheapest you could get away with would be the haltech 750 but you won't have many input/output left for anything down the road. you'll have to buy their I/O Expander which works over the Haltech CAN but it not recommended for any mission critical things like oil pressure or cam timing sensors which should be obvious. It also puts you into the same price point as a elite 1500 but you have more modules in the car. If you just want a functional car with full programmability then the 750 is your cheapest bet. I'm redoing my car this year with a Nexus R5 and adding a LOT of tech to the car. E-wastegate, DBW, full light control, ABS integration with BMW MK60 abs module, strain gauge shifter, Traction control with modes, etc
>>28883141That's only for importing cars.
>>28882743i've never gotten anything about proof of residency, but if you're worried just set your car insurance address or sign up for some spam mail on that p.o. box, and if they ask for proof of residence, you bring those papers.
>>28883250Po box is not proof of residence
>>28883268it literally is, especially in rural places that often don't have regular mail addresses
>>28883156Prove it. From my state's lax standards, I only have to get emissions tested for cars newer than 1991. Next year it's 1992.
>>28883279NTA but utah requires emissions tests back to '68. No clue what you're on about federal emissions, the states manage registration and decide what you need to emissions test
>>28883038OP didnt swap shit.He gutted the '98 and cut it up because you cant sell "a car" to a scrapyard without paperwork, no matter how bad of condition. But you can sell little chunks of car and blown drivetrain components. Selling it as a whole car would have flagged the VIN as a destroyed vehicle and he wouldnt have been able to register the '94 with the '98 paperwork.'98 had quite a few differences.Including side mirrors with a "stylized line" (pic).OP has the earlier mirrors.
>>28883291I'm going to be perfectly honest, I'm just being lazy because I'm hoping he'd cite the specific statute requiring that emissions equipment be maintained on cars older than 21 years. And really? Utah goes back to 1968? So if I have a 1969 Midget, I have to get it smog tested?
>>28883294I mean, he has pictures of the process and seems genuinely willing to deliver if he has to. What's more likely? That OP was smart enough to pull the scheme from Gone in 60 Seconds and isn't smart enough to figure out what to do with Utah's inexplicably strict emissions standards, and is dumb enough to ask us what to do, or that he's autistic enough to body swap an Integra and doesn't know how to deal with emissions standards and posted it here, where we're all autistic?I feel like he's telling the truth.
>>28883334yep, at least in emissions counties. it's the same as california afaik. if you want to drive an old car that can't pass emissions due to no part availability you're fucked. the state will just offer to junk your car and help you buy a new one with enough computers to tell companies how many minutes until you have to take a shit. that's why I'm suggesting he gets a p.o. box in a non-emission county and just register it there. the way it's worded the only requirement in utah is that you have an in-state registration, not an in-county registration.
>>28883334>So if I have a 1969 Midget, I have to get it smog tested?Yes, but smog tested to the standards of 1969If it's running fine you should be good in my experience, make sure you show up with a warmed up engine
>>28883392>1969 smog standardsSo....none?
>>28882428>Utah>not in a flyover stateI could ignore everything else you've said in this thread and I'd still know you're retarded based on this alone
>>28883405PCV was already a thing back then.
>>28883409utah literally has the second most visited national park in the country
>>28883479Oh wow! It's second place in people who visit undisturbed and undeveloped landmarks!WOOOOOOOO!
>>28883481yea, by definition not a flyover, cause people fly to utah. retard
>>28883491People fly to all states, dumb ass! That's why airplanes exist! It doesn't stop them from being flyover states!And does it really count if the people flying there are mormon?
>>28883491Flyover has always meant the states between the coasts, young man.
>>28883152Thanks Anon. I'll look into it a bit further.
>>28883519If it wain't CALIFORNIA, it's flyoversville as fuckHope that helps!
>>28883525I guess what we're trying to say, anon, is that it's good to be a flyover state.
>>28881747>to a county in UtahFind a county with lax regulations. Get a PO Box there and use that for your DL and car registration.
>>28883481the whole SLC/Provo area is some of the worst sprawl you'll see anywhere in the US
If you were following the law you wouldn't be using a driver license, unless you're transporting persons or goods for pay and profit. Neither would you be giving possession of your personal transportation over to the state, registration, thereby making them the trustee and you the beneficiary. Registration also enrolls the the car into the national vehicle theft protection act or whatever it was called which enters you into a contract for the ubiquitous, "license and registration?"If you were following the law you'd understand that the police force is a goon squad created by the bankers to protect their property, and then you'll be just as confused as them when they pull you over to ask you if you know why they pulled you over. That being said there are benefits to registering your vehicle. As beneficiary why are you paying for gas, vehicle maintenance, or a car note? As beneficiary why would you be paying for tickets and shit? That's the trustees problem.
>>28883638>goon squadYou mean they hired a whole squad of people to lazily masturbate for long periods of time?
>>28883646Unfortunately, yes. It is your duty as a free man to introduce a lead injection into the goon's grey matter.
>>28883339>I feel like he's telling the truth.Then you're a dumbfuck.94 integra is the same fucking engine as the 98.Same fucking engine bay wiring harness. OP thought "lol same fucking car, nobody will ever know..."
>>28883681I would like to get paid to masturbate all day. That sounds like a sweet gig.
>>28883409Oh look, another fucking retard.I was born and raised in California.SanteeWest Hills High School Utah is like PNW+They have church money to fund their shit just to fuck you up.
>>28883279Do you understand the difference between state and federal laws?
>>28883701No. Explain it to me in excruciating detail.
>>28883294>No explanation
>>28883414So were air injection pumps.
>>28883762The only explanation that makes any sense is that the '94 was a stolen car. Otherwise OP would have just registered it as the '94 to save on headaches.
>>28884232Kek
>>28882743Car on the trailer has the '98 mirrors.Car in OP has the '94 mirrors.Im sure OP will claim "oh ya, I swapped those too!!"
>>28884291seems pretty trivial to do compared to swapping the drivetrain and ecu
>>288823181994 steering wheel.94 says "acura".98 just has a giant "A"
>>28884317He has the whole interior apart in that picture. If he did a dash swap, a steering wheel is nothing.
>>28884322>another explanationOccam's razor says stolen car.
>>28884343Not really. If he pulled the whole thing apart like the pictures show, Occam's razor tells me he liked the 1994 better and body swapped it.
>>28882313>Theyre different.>Would DMV inspector notice? Oh ya.Lol stfu you retarded bus riding faggot, you've never turned a wrench and you've probably never laid eyes on a VIN tag outside of Google. VIN inspectors aren't a thing, they're just normal MVP employees that sat through a 20 minute slideshow -or- they're cops who sat through a 20 minute slideshow. "Certified" VIN inspectors are "certified" by whatever company employees them. It's perfectly legal for a normal person to remove and reinstall their VIN plate(s) as needed for repair and maintenance. The idea of those rosette rivets being "regulated" has always been a lie, been able to walk in to any auto parts store and order some since before you were born. You can legally go pull off your VIN plate right now and then rivet it back on, it's only illegal to fuck with a VIN plate for the purpose of committing fraud or otherwise trying to misrepresent a vehicle, so long as you're not doing it for nefarious purposes there's nothing illegal about it. The only exception I know of off-hand is California, big fuckin' surprise there.
>>28884392>VIN inspectors aren't a thingi'm in new mexico, which is right next to OP's state and vin inspectors are indeed a thing. you must have your vin inspected by the DMV before you can get plates. they just check to make sure the car isn't stolen or illegally imported from old mexico or both.
>>28882294>i bought a salvage and put prior generation equipment in the chassisThe only way out of this is swapping in whatever needed for a correct year or applying (and being granted) a "custom vehicle" title and plates.Read here: https://law.justia.com/codes/utah/title-41/chapter-6a/part-15/section-1507/One could easily make the argument that an Integra has collector's value, JDM 90s tuner market and providing examples of high value sought after/sold integras. It's up to you to convince or prove that your use meets the "not daily driven" requirement and then not be caught after.The obvious safest route is a part swap. The custom vehicle title carries the risk of needing to lie about the odometer reports and being caught if so, or being investigated if you don't.I'd say you're in a catch 22 situation in the short term and the best way out is sucking it up instead of taking a risk.
>>28884395Red or green? Orale.>DMV EmployeesLike I said, no such thing as "VIN Inspector". When a DMV employee does it they are just matching numbers, that's it, just if the VINs they can see all match the title you've got. They're not checking rivets, they're not judging the condition of the VIN plate or the door jam. When you don't have an easily accessible and visible VIN they have a cop do it, and all he does is find the VIN and call it in to see if it's been flagged for anything. If you've done VIN inspections in New Mexico then you've been asked if your VIN plate has been changed or replaced, and you can tell them yes, you can tell them you had it off just that morning before riveting it back on and they'll say "k thanks". I am sure there are exceptions, like the entirety of California, but y'all are expecting far too much.
>>28884417You can absolutely get VIN checked at an emissions test, and it's technically a job requirement for them to match door sill tag with dash plate. ECU VIN I don't know about the specifics of, given that vehicles might need replacements, doesn't make sense to me that any gov hardass would do more than ask some questions if it was suspicious.I'm not saying vin checks always happen at the e-stations but it is in fact part of the law.
>>28884417>Red or green? Orale.Christmas is the only correct answer.
>>28884424We're family now, bro.
>>28884426Orale!
>>28884422Califag here and our emissions scanners plug into the OBD2 port and report the test to the DMV data center in Sacramento. If the VIN is reported stolen, the shop can't release the car until a cop shows up to check it out.
>>28883294>>28883683new to this thread, just reading through all the responses. you have some sort of mental disease that you should go get checked out. maybe someone can help, maybe not, but it's serious enough that it's worth a shot.
>>28884417>Red or green?both, love me some sweet slow burn peppers. i'm the kinda guy who puts jalapenos on everything.green chile double from whataburger with the horseradish honey mustard on it is simply one of the best sandwiches in existence. however the sportsman out in archuleta does a open face red chile smothered burger which is very good as well.
>>28884434How naive are you?So far the only things verified as '98 is the rear bumper (according to OP) and paperwork.Rather suspicious that every part thats different between the years and is visible in OPs pics turns out to be the '94 component.What do you think happens to the million or so cars that are stolen every year in the U.S.?Even if OP wound up with a non stolen car with no paperwork it doesnt change the fact hes been registering it with paperwork from his old car.
>>28884417NM fag here:I have bought and registered multiple JDM cars. The VIN inspection you refer to is only the first stage. They rarely get past the first stage. They check the dashboard vin and one on the body. If you have weird vins, you go to the staters for the next level of VIN inspection. They're going to know if the rivets are wrong there and they're going to find out if the car is stolen.
>>28884486>If you have weird vins, you go to the staters for the next level of VIN inspection. They're going to know if the rivets are wrong there and they're going to find out if the car is stolen.I've had vehicles where the only remaining VIN was stamped into the trans tunnel, they had to have a cop do the inspection. He wrote down the VIN, called it in to see if it was reported stolen. That was it, that was the whole thing, quick and easy.
>>28884491So interior components had to be removed so a law enforcement officer (not a DMV clerk) could physically verify the VIN stamped into the chassis and check records against stolen vehicles?Sounds pretty in depth to me.
>>28884491They sent me down to the State PD in Santa Fe to do a VIN inspection. It was a whole fucking thing.
>>28884507Probably would've if it had an interior at the time, all I had to do was point. If you think that's as in-depth as judging the curvature of the head of a rivet then you're retarded.>>28884508That's incredibly gay anon and I'm sorry that happened.
>>28884522>this one example that I experienced with a stripped chassis where a normally hidden VIN was exposed means VIN checks are easy.What do you think is going to happen when OP goes in for a VIN check?
>>28884533I'd bet my left nut nobody is going to judge the roundness of the heads of the rivets on the VIN plate. Keep moving goal-posts, it's a good workout.
>>28884543Thanks, but fucking your fat ass mom was work out enough.
>>28884553>immediately gives uphave fun measuring the heads of rivets VIN-inspector-anon
>>28884543Reddit-tier argument. >>28884533Odds are, if OP is telling the truth, they'll find the VIN in the door jamb matches the title. Of course, this still doesn't help him with his emissions problem.
>>28884543I'll bet a paycheck and your mom's ass that anybody would notice the vin plate's been modified on a vehicle that old. Just from seeing it.You know how badge removal on paint that's more than a couple years aged is visible? Now imagine some part, any part with three decades on it.It's like saying a doctor won't notice ear drum scarring from past major sinus infections on a 40 year old. It'd be abnormal to see totally clear eardrums on an adult.
>>28884560I dunno, anon, according to this other guy they can spot when you've not used the secret tool to install the special rivets that normal people can't even buy! How could they not spot every issue with OP from a mile away? They're highly skilled and detail-oriented agents of the federal government after all!
>>28884558>Odds are, if OP is telling the truth, they'll find the VIN in the door jamb matches the title.And not the VIN on the dash, because he swapped it. Maybe if he could get a duplicate title for the 94 and showed them both they'd let it slide but I think he's kinda fucked
>>28884543>>28884563Holly shit youre a dumbfuck.OP already admitted the dash VIN doesnt match the paperwork. Its a moot point and youre the only one dwelling on it.Post the door jam sticker OP.Or the VIN stamped on the firewall.Both would be better.Let's see if its an R or a W.Then you might actually get real help.
Fascinating regional differences at play here. In PA for example the 'VIN inspection' that happens when you register an out of state car is the fat lady at the notary/auto tag/insurance/bail bonds/check cashing/se hablo espanol office looks out the window and confirms that there is an Acura in the parking lot, then hands you a license plate.
>>28884563Someone could always tip off Utah dmv that there's a sketch integra coming in for e-check in the next X months. Im not an asshole but other ppl dont tolerate your bs like I would :^)
>>28884564 Not sure he could get a duplicate title for the 1994 if he's telling the truth. In NM, you have to be the owner of the car to request a duplicate title. If the 1994 was his dad's, then his dad might be able to do it. That assumes the scrapyard didn't register the car as destroyed.
>>28884622the closer you are to mexico the more niggatry/spicnology is afoot
>>28884635If it was purchased as a parts car I doubt "dad" ever transfered it over. Ive never done paper work on a car that I was going to strip down. Extremely few people ever do.
>>28884622Utah I can't say, but New Mexico is the closest thing you'll see where the hispanic kids are trying their damnedest to be uneducated, retarded problem causers who want to emulate the cartels and street thug gangster niggatry.It absolutely sucks to be an NM cop. I'd rather be new york subway security than deal with the constant teens murdering each other shit NM has going on. De evolution in real time in NM.
>>28884670OP said the 94 was the original car that got driven until it rusted out, then had it's parts swapped onto the shell of the 98
>>28884672Yes but OP also admits that the '98 shell is wearing the '94 VIN on the dash.
>all of this heartache so that a clapped out car from 30 years ago can pollute slightly less thank god my state doesnt have inspections
>>28884672I dont recall OP saying anything about driving the '94 or rust itt.He simply said the '94 was a motor swap into the '98.In fact, from OP>>28882743>a still image of both Integras side by side the day I brought them home (left one is 94', right one is 98').
>>28884770>I dont recall OP saying anything about driving the '94 or rust itt.>>28882294>regarding some other comments in the thread: my dad owned the 94' from 30,000-150,000 miles until the bottom rusted out. I bought the 98' as a rolling shell with nothing in it and swapped over everything from the 94'.
This board is so fucking retarded I swear to god.The only solution to OPs problem is to wire an OBD2 ecu.Either by cheating with one wired only for power, or actually using one.
>>28881747register it in a different county or out of state. fuck the law>all these wrenchlets that couldn't fathom swapping in the parts that you have
>>28884780Theres more holes in OPs story than the Epstein files.>both Integras side by side the day I brought them home>my dad owned the 94' from 30,000-150,000 miles> I have a hard drive full of 1,087 video files of nearly the entire build process which is 1.42TB of footage>my 67 year old father who does not own a phone did not take photos of the car he was going to throw away.
>>28884672Yes, but it has the dashboard and the VIN on the dash. All of this is to say he probably would have had an easier time registering it as a 1994, because the vins are matchable. But if his father scrapped the 94, either he or the scrapyard have the right to retrieve the title to it. Not OP.
>>28884832use your context clues sherlockhe bought the 98 and picked up the 94 from his dads place on the same daynot everyone lives in their parents basement like you
>>28884350>pulled the whole thing apart>*carpet and seats.Thread is either full of retards or OP samefagging.A lot activity in a shit thread for the former.
>>28884848Listen, I'm not saying it's impossible his car is stolen. I once told him exactly that. I'm saying he sent a picture of two cars and the evidence seems to indicate that he could have body swapped it.
>>28884715its ironically cleaner to the environment to keep running a shitbox even if it burns oil, than buying a new car. It's a racket
OP, if you have all this build documentation and stuff, did you never register for specialized forums to ask questions or post progress? A good 7/8s of this thread is people trying to figure out if you stole the thing and not helping anything so if you have any post history at all on another site, why not ask them? >>28884902Buy the EV and save the environment, goy
>>28884805That's already been explained multiple times.
>>28884838>would have had an easier time registering it as a 1994,It would have been far easier to swap the couple components to run the OBD2 ECU.One thing people are neglecting is that OP claims hes running the OBD1 ECU.That requires a complete harness swap.The harness is the first thing that goes in the chassis on the assembly line and is an absolute bitch to change out. ECU is in the passenger kick panel and the harness is behind everything. And its not like its split off into its own harness so he would have had to change out everything.Theres far too many discrepancies to believe OPs story at face value.I personally dont believe either car is stolen.Ive bought multiple cars without titles and had to go through the surety bond process. Shit happens.All evidence points to OP driving the '94 with the '98 plates after cannibilizing the best parts off both to make a complete car.Since we only see the ass end of the '98 on the trailer and OP is running the updated rear bumper and the older front bumper, the '98 probably had front end damage. The '94 has a clean body with no apparent damage while the '98 has massive clear coat peel. I find it hard to believe the '94 is "rusted out" compared to the '98.
>>28884964okay, so why is the car gray in the first photo and the bumper in that picture is black? He could have painted it. The car looks shiny but the paint doesn't look great. Consistent with an amateur paint job.
>>28881747>28 year old carget an exemption you tard
>>28884983Hahahahaahahahhahahah
>>28884970I would hope he resprayed it- that rear bumper looks like shit.Its 20 bucks for a sprayer from Harbor Freight and $85 a gallon for tractor paint and your done in an afternoon.Massey Ferguson Grey even looks close enough to the original color that he wouldnt have to dick with door jams.Seems odd that OP stopped posting from his "1.42TB of footage" once componemts started to be identified..Still waiting for the R or W.
>>28885952>Its 20 bucks for a sprayer from Harbor FreightYou can even get half-decent electric ones on Amazon for $20-$30 now if you don't have a good compressor. They're not just garbage like they were a decade ago, they actually perform well and don't fall apart immediately.
>>28885962Used an Amazon sprayer on my house.Worked great.Not sure if id use it on a car but might have to try it out...
Still waiting to see that R or W
