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What car do you buy?
>any savings must be put towards mods
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>>28883108
I need a copy pasta for this, but without additional information, you should probably just a get a lightly-used Civic and spend 0 time thinking about cars and more time about how to make money.

This differs if cars are your one passion in life, you plan to do something car-related with life, you are going to do something specific like autocross, etc.
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>>28883108
20k a year take home? Lease a gv60 advanced AWD with the intent to purchase, total payments after buying the lease out at the end of the term are about 59k, or about a thousand less than the cost of buying it outright. Put the payments in a high yield savings fund and I'll probably have money for tires. Charging is cheap if you don't use public chargers.
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>>28883108
Is the assumption that you are a NEET or have a paid off house? Because 20k/yr is difficult to live off of in most places.
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>>28883117
Expanding on the reasoning here, if I take home 20k a year then I am broke as shit. I don't have money for even diy maintenance, I don't have money for something breaking on a car that's out of warranty, I don't have money for anything except immediate running costs.
Maybe i buy it anyway and cut back on insurance, but if I only have liability then I can't replace the car when some retarded foid tbones me, so it would need to be a big difference in premium. But a new EV, with the stipulation that I'm spending all 60k on the actual car and not saving anything because I'm apparently a moron, is going to be more affordable than a new gas car with that same stipulation
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>>28883120
>>28883121
>>28883117
yeah, let's say $20k/year disposable income instead then. poorfag, but not destitute.
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>>28883121
if you're broke as shit then i wouldn't get an EV
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3k civic + simple mods
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>>28883126
This is an argument IN FAVOR of buying a used EV. Massive depreciation and a glut on the secondhand market means OP as a poorfag has a decent shot of getting a reliable, decent performing car.
I know this is all larp but holy shit man if you're only earning $20k/yr then this shouldnt even be a topic of conversation.
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>mods
Why? Mods lose money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6qRbZRdgHs
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>>28883108
Factory five coupe, start with a ls1 and work my way towards a 408 ls9. After that? I dunno, convert my envoy Denali to a unibody and get rid of that fuck stupid front suspension, use f body stuff or something, 408 ls9, 6l80, I already like it a lot, but it's heavy for effectively being a Tahoe designed by saab to compete with the WK
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>>28883134
buddy leafs are already hitting the junkyard en masse, no one wants to drop $5k to drive more than 10 miles. Tesla has a foot out the door already, once new car buyers are in something else you aren't finding anyone to rewind a motor, and battery packs? Forget it. There is 0 reason to get anything more electric than a hybrid.
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>>28883144
Not getting the full enjoyment out of your car because you were so scared of the resale value is like purposely not fucking your girlfriend because you want to keep her pussy tighter for the next guy. This is the most unbelievable loser mindset and it's a very strong indicator of the spiritual and creative death that has made its way across the Western populace.

Thank god I'm not a normie. I modify my vehicles for my personal enjoyment and don't think about the resale value at all. If you need to worry about the resale value on a vehicle, you need to buy a less expensive vehicle.
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>>28883170
>rewind a motor
nigga wut
leafs are hitting junkyards because they were built as the cheapest shit possible with zero thermal management and their batteries got frozen and toasted over the last decade unlike all of their competitors who charged like 4k more to include battery temperature management
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>>28883134
this. buy a 5 year old EV for $15k and then focus on earning more money
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>>28883134
i'm sorry but this is such a dumb comment. if you're earning $20k a year you're living in an apartment at best. how are you going to charge an EV? the only people that buy EVs are yuppies with a garage to home charge them and who have multiple cars to be able to drive something else when the EV isn't practical. get your head out of your ass.
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>>28883179
>>28883134
OP here, there is no way I'm getting an electric car are you insane? Please stop and let people with good suggestions post.
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>>28883180
If he's making 20k a year he's living with family, apartments aren't viable at that price with money left over for operating any vehicle that needs a license and still eating
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>>28883183
Nigga you broke af, there aint no way you gettin any car earning $20k/yr.
Damn.
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>>28883126
>5 year depreciation
man if you're as destitute as OP you need to stop getting out of cars every 5 years
Everything goes to 0 eventually, compare this
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>>28883108
90s/00s Honda Civic
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>>28883199
To this. Guess what? Similar year, same miles, no accidents reported. Guess what will need to be fixed? Both probably need AC work soon if not now, both night need brakes, one will never need a water pump replacement
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>>28883185
public housing, zero EV chargers. stfu.
you cultists are out in full force today.
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>>28883183
Honestly you probably cannot afford to purchase a car on $20k a year unless you can get one extremely cheaply from a relative or friend. Assuming you drive a typical 12,000 miles a year, with a reasonable 30 mpg, and fuel at $3.00, you will be spending $1200 on fuel alone. Probably closer to $2000 after factoring in maintenance and insurance and registration. 10% of your take-home income spent just to run this car.

Your $60k should be split into a cash (or near-equivalent) safety net and the rest invested. Don't touch your savings to buy a car. If you must touch the savings, use it on improving your skills so you can earn more than $10 an hour.
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>>28883214
Love how no brownoids owning these used bothers with dealing the ceramic rotors.
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>>28883108
I'd buy a 95 Ranger and modify it like a japanese car, weeb stickers, Advan 3 spoke wheels, lowered suspension, the works, if there's still some money left I'd then get a 2001 Toyota Corolla, lift the suspension, add some off road tires and a LED bar
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>>28883222
>inherited a paid off house in the most expensive place in the US
sounds like an albatross around his neck with tax liabilities
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>>28883108
5k € for a used gixxer and 55k for an apartment that I put up for rent.
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>>28883332
Prop 19 changes that, if the difference between assessed value and actual value is over 1M then the excess gets added. Maybe anon gets lucky/unlucky and the value of the home is assessed before 1M, and there's no step up. But he'd still be on the hook for property taxes, even if he can predict them
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>>28883364
>My property tax is $5500 a year
That's over 25% of that anon's annual income
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>>28883108
a mini cooper jwc 2019 in chilli red
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>>28883108
For 20K/yr, you purchase a decent 5 year old Camry, do whatever repairs are necessary, on your own and pray it holds together until you can get a real job.
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>>28883370
Gay as fuck
>>28883451
Why are you even on here?
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>>28883108
1994 Probe GT. With the money left over I turn it into a V8 powered 700 HP AWD retard mobile.
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>>28883368
So?
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>Buy MR2 SW20
>Install 2GR-FE
>2GR turbo kit
>KW coilovers
>Suspension geometry correction kit after I lower it
>Rear double wishbone conversion kit
>Random bits and pieces
Still have like 20k left over to rice it out with
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>>28883176
>Not getting the full enjoyment out of your car because you were so scared of the resale value is like purposely not fucking your girlfriend because you want to keep her pussy tighter for the next guy
I'm going to remember this lmao.
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>>28883524
>nooo that car is LOWERED you LITERALLY can NOT drive it ANYWHERE without LOSING your BUMPER!!!
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>>28883202
>>28883199
camry will still be worth $15k in 10 years
tesla will be worth $0 in 10 years
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>>28883524
Here, let me spend your leftover $20k:
>$3k - bushings/suspension refresh
>$2k - replace everything to do with the pop-up headlights so they don't cause issues: new motors, lids, fresh headlights
>$3k - new wheels + tires
>~$1.5k - all new underbody panels since OEM are probably fucked by now (https://mr2heaven.com/products/mr2heaven-underbody-panel-reproductions-increased-thickness-durability-sw20?variant=34807861510312)
>$1k - new steering wheel, shifter, etc. misc interior bits
>$2.5k - new bucket seats & mounts
>$10k carbon fiber roof, maybe some other carbon parts (much cheaper if you have a targa top, if hardtop then it's probably $2.5k in parts + lots of labor)
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>>28883108
BYD Seagull
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>>28883108
finance a bus pass
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>>28883108
I know that car it’s in Indy
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2ez
Picrel or a C6 Z06
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Used ES350
Mods:
>beaded seat covers
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>>28883206
best advice ITT
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>>28884253
>just don't buy a car
>in a car dependent society
>best advice
lol
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>>28883108
FD, been my dream car since I was a teenager
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>>28883134
this, but ONLY if you can charge at home
if you can, a sub 20k used model 3 is INSANE value, and INSANELY cheap to maintain

>inb4 muh battery replacement
not a realistic concern
rare catastrophic failures aside, batteries don't *die*, they *degrade*.
yes, 10 years down the line your range will not be 300 miles (ideal conditions), it will be 200.
you'll still be able to use it as a daily with no issue whatsoever, it'll just be worse as a road trip car. if you really need it, take some of the fucktons of money you saved in gas and maintenance and use it to rent an ICE that 1 time a year you need to road trip faster.

alas, however, all the above is essentially moot, at least in most situations.
the reason used EVs are cheap is exactly because poor people, their natural market, are also by and large people who rent apartments, not own houses.
and therefore can't charge at home
and therefore can't buy an EV

ofc there are exceptions to the rule, namely poor people owning (or renting, i guess) a house in a rural area or very remote suburbs, and for those, the EV makes even more sense
the longer commutes and grocery trips make the savings even larger, but will still be within the range envelope of even a degraded ev battery. nobody commutes more than 200 miles daily. shit, even 100 is pushing it, even in rural areas.
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>>28883621
>camry will still be worth $15k in 10 years
Here's a 2003 Camry. Can't get a 2003 Tesla unfortunately
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>>28883621
>>28884361
Here are the oldest Teslas that are not auction listings
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>>28884364
>>28884361
>>28883621
And here are the oldest model S listings
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>>28884258
Unironically yes. He needs to reshape his life around not spending money on stupid things right now so that he can get skills to earn more money. OP could join the military and learn actual marketable skills, not have any expenses, and earn more than $20k a year
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>>28884458
>OP could join the military and learn actual marketable skills
Dying for Israel?
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>>28884576
No, I meant something useful, like becoming an electrician, aircraft mechanic, etc
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>>28883108
Go invest your money.
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>>28883117
kekd
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>>28884253
OP isnt asking for advice retard.
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>>28883524
mister 2 with a sideways 3uz in the middle
tastefully extend the wheelbase to make room :^)
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>>28883108
>earn $20k/year
cheap reliable shitbox
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>>28884647
>electrifying for israel
>flying for israel
same shit
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>>28885105
If I had 60k banked, I'd probably be ok spending 10k of it, so maybe a basic but nice 90's Toyota that doesn't need a bunch of work right away.
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>>28883108
Do you mean 200k a year?
If I'm only making 20k a year, I'm saving every dollar of that $60 and buying a $5k piece of shit that runs.
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>>28883124
Mk7 Fiesta ST. SN95 Mustang. NA or NB Miata.
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>>28883108
Buy an old (but not too old) truck and get a job in construction. Like an early 2000s Ford ranger
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>>28886040
There are basically no limits in life once you own a shitty old truck with a 6ft bed. It's like a poorfag's life hack except not really because you still have to work, you'll just find it really easy to get work.
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Will a Harley Davidson get me sex? I'm 18.
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300c srt8



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