post your valid VW hate>retarded engineering>terrible electrics>can't do shit without a computer>costs more than the competitor while offering a worse owners experience than those competitors>unreliable>parts are either nonexistent or cost an arm and a leg>cobbled together in Mexico>nightmare to work on (thank you Audi!)>supposed to be an "economy" brand but ends up being a money pitAll the hate and criticism of volksfaggen in 100% deserved. For almost 80 years they've been building nothing but scrap heaps and the 1.9tdi. No wonder they're gone bust.
>>28883127Literally every point you make is a lie. If the production quality of chinese cars is as bad as the quality of your paid chinese propaganda lies, then mercy be upon all of us.
>>28883136*PAID SHILL HAS ARRIVED*Where did I mentioned chink cars, retard? >be (you), a retard>want a comfortable car with good quality>fall for the "german engineering" meme>cant afford a merc, cant afford a beemer>buy a fucking VW of all things>plastic water pump explodes>timing chain stretches>every single electrical accessory fails>go to dealership, they tell you to undress and bend over>try to sell it, nobody wants your shitheap>try to fix it, can't even get partsFUCK OFF with your bullshit
>>28883147>where did I mentionedYep, VW rager-baiter is ESL. I never tire of this rerun episode.
^ ragebait and im not falling for it
>>28883147No, I mentioned Chinese cars because there is no way you are anything other than a paid Chinese shill. I mean, this is Banqiao Dam failure tier of shitty bait.>want a comfortable car with good qualitySo a VW Golf Mk7 which objectively is of good quality.>fall for the "german engineering" memeNot a meme.>cant afford a merc, cant afford a beemerGoalpost status: Moved.>buy a fucking VW of all thingsYou keep repeating yourself. Typical for shills. They get this hammered in in their shilling seminars that repetition works.>plastic water pump explodesEvery car has weaknesses, this is literally the best weakness you could possibly have.>timing chain stretchesThis was a intemittent problem for Golf Mk6 and has long since been solved.>every single electrical accessory failsThat's a completely made up lie with no factual basis whatsoever.>go to dealership, they tell you to undress and bend overThat's a completely made up lie with no factual basis whatsoever.>try to sell it, nobody wants your shitheapThat's a completely made up lie with no factual basis whatsoever.You need to tell your handlers at the Chinese Communist Party that they need to start to train you people on cultural specifics about the target demographics you want to use for your shilling. You literally stand out like a sore thumb.0/10, probably the worst attempt at shilling in the entire history of 4chan(nel).
>>28883136Shill spotted opinion discarded.If VW was so good? Why did they commit the largest engineering scandal for their emissions ? Sounds like sloppy engineering needed a cover up to get them units out the door.Fuck VW. Fuck German cars as a whole aside from a tiny handful of rugged built ones that you can't get anymore.
>>28883158This nigga is unironically defending PLASTIC cooling systems. What a fucking joke, you should feel ashamed for even remotely associating yourself as a car enthusiast. You're just a sucker buying disposable slop instead of works of engineering integrity.
>>28883165>This nigga is unironically defending PLASTIC cooling systems.Yes. And? Any comeback from you? No? Then my statement stands.
I had a low mileage Passat sedan from '08. The ride was nice but man did every part of the car just break down for no reason at all. Doors that would remain locked, random warning lamps, faulty seat belts, faulty parking brakes etc etc. It wasn't worth it. I sold it. Design wise it was a 10/10 though.
VW Golf is the most overpriced joyless ass ugly shitbox in the world.
>>28883174You can appeal to scrutiny all you like, doesn't change the fact you're shilling an inferior design choice. You are the very poison that pollutes the automotive industry. Had suckers like you never existed, we would never have fucking cooling systems melt themselves to death because they can't hold up against intense tempatures and pressures over the longevity of a vehicle. Thermostats are a service item, not an entire fucking cooling assembly. You deserve everything coming to you.
>>28883223>we would never have fucking cooling systems melt themselves to death that's not what happens, they dryrot/age out and crack and its purely because cars run higher coolant temps and are forced to warm up faster for emissions/fuel economy reasons. plastic also weighs less. bmw ruined plastic for cooling systems permanently notice how every other car company the worst they get is a cracked/leaking expansion tank or radiator after 100,000 miles/10+ years
>>28883223>You can appeal to scrutiny all you like, doesn't change the fact you're shilling an inferior design choice.But you haven't even established that "fact". You just claimed it without proof or evidence.>You are the very poison that pollutes the automotive industrblablablablablablaThis is meaningless rambling. Literally a porch boomer in a rocking chair 3 whikey sours in.>Thermostats are a service item, not an entire fucking cooling assembly.What the fuck are you rambling? Are you drunk?>You deserve everything coming to you.You are really a masterclass in convincing people aren't you
>>28883127>>costs more than the competitor while offering a worse owners experience than those competitorsOh yeah? What new hatchbacks can be had for the price of a new Polo GTI with better specs, or lower price?
>>28883219>golf>overpricedJust how poor are you. Honestly bus-tier.
>>28883315Did I say it was expensive? A cheap car can still be overpriced.
>>28883606>with nothing to back it upYeah you're simply retarded like the OP.
What's the point of arguing about reliability here when the only example you retards always latch onto is some boring soulless Toyota that does absolutely nothing exceptional and is the very antistasis of an enthusiast car?
>>28883219The MK2 was basically a front wheel drive Mercedes-Benz. Those who have owned West German car will know what I'm talking about. It's all downhill from there.
>>28884391*antithesis
>>28884391>boring soulless ToyotaAs if the Celica, Supra, MR2, XRS, etc don't exist. LOL
I know they have a reputation of being unreliable money pits but I still see a shit ton of these guys driving around, and I don't mean the 2011-2019 ones; I even see a fair number of 98-05 ones from before the facelift
>>28883127I've never really had a problem with my VW. Now granted I just lost the oil pan but now I have a metal one, installed quick and easy.The emission scandal is why I got a VW because fuck emission standards.Just admit you're hater and got a bad car with so many problems and are just jealous VW owners are having a good time. Must own a Honda.
>>28883149>VW rager-baiter is ESL.Germany is ESL.>(plastic water pump) is literally the best weakness you could possibly have.I stopped reading this thread right around here.
Don't think there are any car companies left on this planet that don't engage in planned obsolescence, so don't buy expensive socks if you have to change them often anyway
>>28886260VW was too smug to dump their own pump-nozzle diesels in time and switch to common rails like everyone else.These are shitty engines overall.Whenever I see a small car smoking like hell, it has a VW (group) logo on its back.
>>28883158>comfortable car>Golf Mk7come on now
>>28883203>The ride was niceWho the fuck are these retards, who the fuck ever said a Passat B6 rides well? You ever been in anything else? It's probably the single worst ride in its class.
>>28883127They're ugly. I don't know anything about their models or pricing lately, but they all look like shit and I'm guessing their prices vary from 30,000 to 80,000 usd.
>>28887939>they're ugl-ACK
I get the hype around Euro VW>The Passat>Quintessential European People Carrier>Solid thuds everytime you close the door, bonnet or boot unlike Toyota Honda Subaru Nissan>Decent sound system as standard for me tunes>Everything makes sense on where its placed, not a suggestion, nothing quirky just no non sense pal>Hit a pothole by accident? no problem suspension absorbs most of it and leaves you calm and collected inside instead of sending shockwaves through the whole interior and chassis like Honda>Slightly more space inside than an Audi based on the same platform because sensibility>No strange fishy asiatic design quirks like Toyota, its just...welll, a car and designed like one.>Solid chunky manual transmission that lets you do the work with satisfaction or a silky smooth dual clutch gearbox that operates more like a torque converter than a psuedo racecar DCT, ideal for daily comfort>nice Crayon scent that takes you back to childhood >need economy? fuck the complex hybrid system in a Prius, just put around on a full tank of diesel in the mighty TDI will get you around Europe and home https://youtu.be/QFGMQZyvnmY?si=2l-eT6Ge82ig8o_r
I've been wanting to replace my Golf VI 2.0 Tdi but the fucker won't break. It's with almost 600k kilometers. Even today I did 180 on a uphill..
>>28887967based, that's me but with a Golf instead>>28888054https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgxAz3kzEb0&list=RDPgxAz3kzEb0&start_radio=1
>>28887967Do you think they don't sell Passats in the US?The real Euro gem is the Arteon (it should have a VR6 though)
>>28887963Looks like one of those ugly pikachu chav bullshits
>>28883127>doors' inner skins are riveted in in every vag i've seen>wanna change the window motor? drill 'em out>wanna install a stereo? drill 'em out>wanna stick in sound deadening? drill 'em out>got your lock drilled out? drill 'em out
>new EV that's not a blob CUV for mentally ill dog moms>same size as a Mk6 Golf, like I used to own>cheap>won't be sold in Americanevermind I guess!
you know what, I'll just ask here anyway since it might maybe be onjective adviceI was considering the mk8 Golf R, like a '23 or '24, because the ipad on the dash of the 8.5s are atrocious I just like the performance to value ratio and want the utility of at least a hatch because wagons are almost extinct in the US and SUVs/crossovers are too big for my tastesit looks like a good daily with enough get up and go to make things interesting yeah I know the waterpump is dogshit but I can wrench enough to fix it myself and I know there are no tactile buttons on the dash and wheel which is gay but I feel like after a bit my muscle memory will be able to adjustif you can think of something that can beat it by all means I will take it into consideration
>>28888096>if you can think of something that can beat it by all means I will take it into considerationE28 M5, E30 325i, E31 850CSi, E36 M3 with subframe reinforcement, E39 530i, E46 330Ci or M3 with subframe reinforcement, LCI E90 N54 335i, LCI E90 M3 Competition, LCI F10 M5 Competition, W124, W126, R129, W140, W201, 964, 997 GT3 RS 4.0, C5, or a C6 Z06All are better than a golf while alxo having HYDRAULIC steering and no faggy ipad touchscreen bullshit
>>28888101looking for a hatch or wagon here as I plainly statedand not a money pit
>>28888110>if you can think of something that can beat it by all means I will take it into considerationI knew you were just a disingenous nocarhatchbacks are gay as fuck and are the the least practical body style, and wagons are frumpy as fuck hipster bullshitsAnd none of the cars that I listed are, ugh, "money pits," to use the parlance of our times
>>28888117>coupes are more practical than hatchbacksok bro whatever thanks for your inputand pulling a random one of your examples the LCI E90 N54 335i appears to be nearly double the avg maintenance costs in parts alone, not very good in performance to value it seemsc'mon, be seriousI own a sedan and it's not enough, I frequently am needing more cargo room and I don't want huge fat cuckovers and SUVswhere does that leave me?wagons or hatchbacks
>>28888130Why are you replying to a known shitposter?
>>28888130Coupes are more practical than hatchbacksI had a mirage rental that I couldn't even fit a fucking vaccuum cleaner in thw hatch of without folding down the back seats, whereas it easily fit in my coupe without having to do so>not very good in performance to value it seemsDisingenuous>c'mon, be seriousI'm being seriousYou be serious>I frequently am needing more cargo room For what? If you need a work vehicle get a transit van or a truck
>>28888140You should be asking ME thatI recomended cars that are all better than the golf, then she says some inane bullshit based off some preconceived notion
>>28888150>Coupes are more practical than hatchbacksHow to spot an ameriburger 101
>>28888150>provided the buyer is prepared for significant maintenance costs
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>>28888163Golfs are notorious for having poor trunk space. My Mk5 has a tiny trunk, versus my beater coupe which has a hueg trunk.
>>28888168Those costs are significantly less than you'd spend on buying a newer golf THOUGHFor a better car
>>28883127VW is a kraut brand, and I don't particularly care for krauts. Not racist, just don't like them. Chinamen too.
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>>28888212What a stupid thing to think. Did you know that Germany is the most litigious country on earth? Have you ever noticed that lots of supposedly Jewish names sound very kraut-like, ex. Goldberg, Finklestein, etc.? Have you noticed how both Orthodox Judaism and Kraut culture are obsessed with rules, following rules, and finding loopholes to the rules? Have you noticed how much arguing both of them do? Krauts and Jews are more alike than different. Again, got nothing against either, just don't care for them.
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>>28888075Euro Passats are different to US market Passatshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi8hDH6JW1c>ArteonIts basically a Passat with coupe styling, previous model was called the "Passat CC"
>>28888196I'm sure it'll only take 2 or 3 years for the costs in repairs to even that outif even that
>>28888277I've had my E39 530i for 3 years, only changed thr fluids and the valve cover gasketI've had an E92 335i for 3 years, omly changed fluids, the coolant sxpansion tank, and the acessory beltI've spent less than $10k total on eachIgnorance or disingenuousness?
>>28888307What the hell is omly, brown boy?
>>28888310>not a heckin le typo!!!cumbrain can't infer using context clues kek cry pussy nocar
>>28888320/kek cry pussy nocar/i;boards:oOh, missed that one. Thanks.
Speaking of chink cars, LingLong has become VW official OEM tire supplier.
>>28888088Next time don't vote for a pedophile senile crook.
>>28883165nobody tell this fucker that hoses are made from plastic
>>28884682the golf 3 is still a better car than any 90s wapanese shitbox shilled in the us4 is where the rot began
>>28886420>These are shitty engines overall.>imagine being this wrongthe 1.9tdi is in the top 5 german engines ever build
>>28884716Beetles are cheap to run with the caveat that you need to do all the work on it yourself. Otherwise, yeah, you will go flat broke in no time at all.
>>28888325>cowardice incarnateYou're what's wrong with this board
>>28888424no they werentthey rusted out worse than any 1990s japanese car while being less powerful, worse handling, more expensive, and less reliable (especially if you got a auto or anything other than a 2.0 aba or 1.9 tdi)you're comparing it to peak japan which had the corolla and civic...i'd argue the impreza and protege were even better. i'd take a golf/jetta over a sentra or mirage/lancer but that's about it
>>28888770>they rusted out worse than any 1990s japanese carthere are many thousands still on the road>more expensivethe cheapest car to own and maintain>if you got a autolmao
>>28888783>many thousands still on the roadi don't even see them in southern europe when i went last year, it was usually important stuff that rusted out on them too like floorpans and strut towers while the japanese cars were always arches and rockersi saw more e36s and italian/french cars. >cheapest car to own$2000 more than a civic ($13k vs $15k) in 1996 and that's with vw building them in mexico >if you got a autonormies dont care about stickshift they only want reliable transportation and vw couldnt build as good of a automatic simple asthis is why the golf/jetta barely exists in america they werent competitive
>>28888787it is infact still so common that authorities hesistate to give one oldtimer status despite it qualifiying for golf 3,4 and polo are the entire shitbox market here
>>28888767Gonna cry, brown son techlet?
>>28883164Everyone did it. Only VW got caught.
>>28883127They need Piech back.
>>28889963you are talking to a commifornia fagthere are not many on this board with a dieselgate hate boner, especially since the "manipulation" was good for engine longevity before they were forced to patch it
