Just looked up what this "PDK" thing that porsche timmieskeep talking about and they really created a whole acronym so they can avoid saying the word automatic>yeah its a pdk>yeah its an auto
porsche is for brand whores who want to pay 150k for a vw new beetle for a flat 6 engine upgradealso it sort of signifies dual clutch but in my experience those are worse than normal torque converter autos
>>28886284Wow great thread nigger, really worth posting
>>28886284those "automatics" are faster than stroking a shaft aroundcope nigger
>>28886343clearly worth replying to, kek
>>28886286>those are worse than normal torque converter autosFor anything but bleeding edge performance, yeah
>>28886284To be fair, PDK are probably the best automatic available for performance applications.Manual 911s are still way better though.I bet 20 years from now manual transmission Porsches will be worth twice as much. Maybe 3x.
>>28886284That's how pretentious porch monkeys are
>>28886284pedik is slur for gay in russian[spoiler]though every word that describes gays is a slur in russian[/spoiler]
>>28886402the m5 f90 is a drag racing beast and it comes with a torque converter so idk
>>28886284There's a manual mode where a clutch lever pops out from under the dash when you engage it, that's why it's treated differently. Stay poor.
>>28886674Might as well get a tesla, you can just put it on auto pilot and launch control and not even touch the steering wheel or brakes.
>>28886691you know what I meant, the m5 can outrun lighter more powerful cars that have similar awd traction and I wont be convinced its only down to its fancy launch control, the gearing has to help it out, no way a well tuned modern torque converter can't keep up with all the fancy DSG PDK DCT FGT bullshit
>>28886950The moment you go automatic is the moment you're not racing, nobody is gonna put money on the line, nobody is gonna respect you and you look like a larping clown, a wrenchlet, and a helpless nu-male. Automatic trans is closer to self driving than teslas FSD.Nothing wrong with owning slushbox cars but men don't care about them so there's no point in discussing them.
>>28887127>delusions of a ricelet slowfaglet boyracelet
>>28886284Lot of jewry going on at VAG, but nothing close to the homosexual jewry going on at toyotat
>>28887127>Automatic trans is closer to self driving than teslas FSD.
>>28887297yes, actuating the steering wheel only works in 2 directions, a slushbox has like 1000 parameters to take into account at any given time kek. thats why theyre trash compared to a manual.
>>28886284For me, its when they put a leather shift boot on a auto.
>racecar drivers have mechanics to wrench and all use flappy paddles Poorfag coping as usual
>>28886284Have a friend with a PDK 911. It's for sale and he's searching for a manual one. Trying to relive the glory days of his cheap manual Boxter.
>>28886284Yet again.
>>28887127There's a reason stick shift cars are in their own category.
>>28887499Yea no shit, you're actually driving the car vs some computer algorithm doing it for you. Cuck. Same reason nobody watches f1 anymore, after they all went to automatics the shit got boring as fuck.
>>28887127that's not what I said tho, it was stated that for peak automatic performance you need a fancy DSG PDK DCT FGTNIGR transmission, when in reality a well tuned torque converter like the one in the M5 can more than keep up, and beat, all the fancy dual clutch variants
>>28888043bro that torque converter shit is just for commuting in traffic to your McWagie job. Have some self-respect and dont even try to make it sound like it's special.
>>28888065See >>28887133Ricelet stancelet slowfaglet boyracelet
>>28886284to be fair the PDK is ackshually an automated manual transmission, and many of the vehicles offered with one also have the regular ZF automatic as an option, so people use PDK to show which non-manual gearbox they're talking about
>>28888076lol.look at this shit.some faggot is actually defending slushbox autos.This is how far we've fallen as a society.Absolutely pathetic.
>>28888086You shill fag-wheel drive 4cylinderlet bullshitsThis is how far we've fallen as a societyAbsolutely pathetic
>>28887350I went to look at an old skyline once>see auto shifter >"what's with the auto? the ad said "5 speed"">yeah it's a 5 speed autofunny and sad, but be wasted my time so I guess he won or whatever
>>28886690So does that turn it to a sequential?
>>28887493>tfw bought a turbo instead of turbo S It annoys me desu. Next time I will just spend the god damn extra money
>>28888086society=/=one delusional spic autist
>>28888223>nooo everyone is me!!!Kek cry pussy you don't even have a car
>>28888218Kek narplet larplets are so fuckin funny
these arguments of manual vs automatic are why you are all losing to EVs, which don't even need something as ridiculous as a transmission or multiple gears
Nah manuels are mogged in the year 2026. Every high performance car is too fast for a manuel, they need at least 8 gears. They can't handle the power. They are too slow to shift. It's stupid to take a hand off the wheel when fighting with 600hp around a track.
>>28888560What is an air actuated sequential for $300?
>>28888607Not a poorfag tier h pattern
>>28888318Get back to me when an EV can last more than 2 laps without bursting into flames.
>>28888620Eh you can get dogs in an H patten but then you are still poor for not shelling for a shift barrel.
>>28888043>for peak automatic performanceStopped reading right there
>>28887393>they all use sequential manual gearboxes for some reason…
>>28888839Automated sequentials. You can have a clutch with a sequential but modern f1 doesn't use them so basically any retard off the street with little training could set within 1 second of your favorite f1 nogs so there's no skill involved.
>>28888223Wario car
>>28888560>slow to shiftSkill issue, link wristed faggot
>>28888560>they need at least 8 gearsSounds like a torquelet problem. I have a 5 speed in my truck, literally used 1st once to prove it worked and haven't needed it since, and could be fine with just 2nd and 5th as lo and hi if I needed. I only shift more than that for the fun of it.-t.big block
>>28889895>could be fine with just 2nd and 5thKEKd, based, pilled etc
>>28886284Only an idiot who does not understand transmissions would refer to a PDK (or any DCT) as "an auto"
>>28888065yet the one in the m5 is better than anything you will ever own?
>>28886674Only reason it uses a torque converter is because BMW couldn't find a DSG gearbox that can handle the torque.
>>28888841>this is what /o/ believesZoomers have done irreparable damage to this board
>>28890898He probably thinks "dogs" are pets
>>28889895The thing abput your truck is that if you ever used it to tow something you'd need all 5.
>>28890896my dude this shit is built as commuter traffic for mcwagie's stuck in gridlock. they gotta make it shift soft and squishy so the mcwagie doesnt get jostled out of its torpor by a crisp shift.
>retards knowing nothing about transmissions except "hurrr durrr stick = manly and cool"No you don't have to manually shift a PDK. Calling it "just an automatic" is the stupidest thing I have ever heard though. There is a massive difference between torque converter transmissions and a pdk. Massive.
>>28891025ok sperg. you put them in drive and then put them in park. it's an automatic.
>>28891039You put a manual in '1' and then in 'N'. Your point?
>>28891066
>>28891071Nice meme, but no answer? Come on, you can do better than that as you seem the think a manual is the very essence of a car
>>28886284Porsche is the most sovless car you can buy, somehow they made going fast the most boring activity possible. At least t*sla faggots admit to buying an appliance, plus an EV sounds better than whatever fartcanned shitbox motor porsche is using kek
>>28891039>>28891074*Tumbleweed*Still waiting for your paean to the manual transmission. Cat got your tongue? Or are you just a low grade troll?I bet you post about MacDonalds struts, too.
>>28891039Double clutch troons don't have a park. Bus riding faggot sybau.
>>28891025Nu-male take, it's either manual or automatic.
>>28891132You're wrong. Tell me why manuals are superior - I'll wait.
>>28891132OK. What is this description.A transmission with fixed ratios, direct connection to the engine flywheel, permanently engaged gears that are locked to the shafts within the gearbox by synchro rings with dog engagement into the individual gears and a clutch to enable the selector forks to change to the next ratio.
>>28886343>>28886346salty auto tards outing themselves is hilarious
>>28891143>AIsloppaSaar auto is very good gearbox please redeem
>>28891143Bitch you just described a pdk. This is why manuals are for autists.
>>28891143>>28891342Samefag btw
>>28891143Bro, if there's no clutch pedal it's automatic. Kys wrenchlet faggot btw.
Wrenchers are all poor
>just let another man touch your sled bronah im good, fuck automatics. cukced faggot
>>28891536>Bro, if there's no clutch pedal it's automaticAnd what is the advantage of having a clutch pedal?
>>28891342That description describes a manual transmission
>>28891793>And what is the advantageYou get to keep your dignity as a man, faggot ricer
>>28886284>Just looked up what the greatest automatic transmission in the world is in a street car and holy kekerino porsche called it a funny nameNice thread faggot
>>28891799So your entire dignity is related to having a third pedal in your shitbox but you can't objectively define why this is an advantage?I feel sorry for you - apply for a bus pass
>>28891824>automatics are actually good broGay ass ricer
>>28891840Non sequitur? Really? Is that the best you can come up with?And the irony that most "ricer" cars are manuals is obviously completely lost on you, you cretin
>>28891862>BRO JUST DRIVE A RENTAL CARnah I'm good, and you're a faggot ricer, wrenchlet. Fuck automatics btw.
>>28891945>>>/b/
>>28886284Gotta tart that shit up so the boys don't think you're a fag kek
>>28891799>>28891840>>28891945Is it just one cretin who shits up /o/ threads with posts like these? Or are there a depressing number of people like this on the board?
>>28894515 wrenchlet, nu-male
>>28894515Poors wrench because they need to maintain their shitbox, so yes to the latter
>>28894532Not being wealthy or choosing to wrench on their cars doesn't automatically destroy braincells to the extent seen in these posts, surely?
>>28894532If you didn't drive a rental you'd be insanely picky about who touches it you broke wrenchlet, ricer, auto-only
>>28894566>Not being wealthy or choosing to wrench on their cars doesn't automatically destroy braincells to the extent seen in these posts, surely?Except in one case, it seems>>28894614
>>28886346>ITS FASTER THOWho cares? Is it fun to drive? What happens when this "PDK" breaks? Is it easy to repair or will it cost and arm and a leg? You autotragics are the definition of cope.
>>28894825What you said is the definition of sneesWhen the pdk breaks they just throw it away and buy another
>>28894825Because you can strip and repair a Tremec T56?
>>28894825>Who cares? Trolls, apparently >Is it fun to drive?Yes>What happens when this "PDK" breaks?As it's basically 2 manual gearboxes in line, you either repair it or get it repaired>Is it easy to repair or will it cost and arm and a leg? Slightly more expensive than a conventional manual - depending what's actually wrong with it.
>>28894825Its still fun and if it somehow breaks I'll get it fixed or just buy another car because it's like 3% of my networth.
>guy tries telling me he ""drives"" his automatic ""sportscar""